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A90063 Irenicum; or, An essay towards a brotherly peace & union, between those of the congregational and presbyterian way; shewing out of the most learned and renowned divines of the congregational way, that their positions concerning 1. Church matters and members. 2. Church constitution and form. 3. Church state. 4. Church officers and ordination. 5. Church government and censures. 6. Church combinations and synods. 7. Communion with and separation from churches. are sufficient for the establishing a firme and lasting peace between them and the Presbyterians ... In pursuance of the good design begun at the Savoy, where it was agreed, and declared, that such reforming churches as consist of persons sound in the faith, and of conversation becoming the Gospel, ought not to refuse the communion of each other ... Drawn up and published by Discipulus de Tempore Junior. Newcomen, Matthew, 1610?-1669.; D. T. 1659 (1659) Wing N910; Thomason E978_1; ESTC R202985 58,516 89

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of_o the_o church_n at_o the_o lord_n table_n mr._n cotton_n of_o infant_n baptism_n pag._n 134._o line_n 12._o and_o this_o he_o speak_v of_o as_o the_o perfection_n of_o the_o new_a jerusalem_n hitherto_o of_o church-state_n now_o to_o draw_v some_o brief_a position_n and_o inference_n from_o these_o particular_n 1._o the_o faithful_a congregation_n of_o england_n be_v true_a church_n of_o christ_n see_v chap._n 3._o answer_n to_o the_o first_o question_n therefore_o not_o to_o be_v depart_v from_o nor_o their_o communion_n to_o be_v desipise_v 2._o where_o word_n and_o sacrament_n be_v due_o administer_v there_o be_v a_o faithful_a congregation_n a_o true_a church_n see_v chap._n 3._o quest_n 2._o answer_v the_o first_o therefore_o such_o a_o congregation_n may_v challenge_v from_o every_o member_n of_o it_o what_o ever_o duty_n be_v owe_v to_o any_o church_n of_o christ_n 3._o the_o essence_n of_o a_o true_a church_n be_v preserve_v though_o there_o be_v find_v in_o it_o some_o hypocry_n and_o some_o notorious_o scandalous_a both_o in_o judgement_n and_o practice_n see_v chapter_n 3._o quest_n 2._o answ_n 4._o 4._o though_o all_o the_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v make_v but_o a_o ignorant_a hypocritical_a verbal_a profession_n of_o christ_n and_o faith_n in_o he_o yet_o there_o remain_v not_o only_o the_o name_n but_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o church_n so_o far_o that_o the_o action_n thereof_o be_v not_o null_a see_v chap._n 3._o quest_n 2._o answ_n 5._o therefore_o quere_z whither_o there_o be_v any_o congregation_n in_o england_n so_o ignorant_a or_o scandalous_a as_o not_o to_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o name_n and_o nature_n of_o a_o church_n according_a to_o this_o position_n 5._o promise_v make_v to_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v make_v to_o it_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o elect_a that_o be_v therein_o see_v chap._n 3._o answ_n 11._o quest_n 3._o 6._o god_n allow_v none_o tote_n cast_v out_o of_o his_o church_n but_o for_o obstinacy_n and_o heinous_a crime_n against_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n see_v chap._n 3._o answer_n to_o question_v 4._o 7._o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v in_o their_o infancy_n as_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v receive_v to_o full_a communion_n till_o they_o make_v profession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n so_o neither_o be_v they_o to_o be_v reject_v but_o suffer_v to_o enjoy_v many_o privilege_n in_o the_o church_n as_o church-watch_n etc._n etc._n for_o their_o heal_n and_o amendment_n chap._n 3._o quest_n 5._o therefore_o the_o more_o injurious_a they_o who_o cast_v off_o some_o hundred_o of_o baptize_v once_o in_o their_o congregtion_n and_o surfer_v neither_o they_o nor_o their_o child_n to_o enjoy_v any_o more_o church-privilege_n than_o mere_a turk_n or_o heathen_n chap._n iu._n of_o church-officer_n and_o their_o ordination_n question_n 1._o what_o need_n be_v there_o of_o officer_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n answ_n though_o officer_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o the_o simple_a be_v of_o church_n when_o they_o be_v call_v e._n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n yet_o ordinary_o to_o their_o call_n they_o be_v and_o to_o their_o well-being_n and_o therefore_o the_o lord_n jesus_n out_o of_o his_o tender_a compassion_n have_v appoint_v and_o ordain_v officer_n which_o he_o will_v not_o have_v do_v if_o they_o have_v not_o be_v useful_a and_o needful_a for_o the_o church_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 6._o sect_n 2._o quest_n 2._o what_o officer_n then_o have_v christ_n appoint_v and_o ordain_v in_o the_o church_n answ_n these_o officer_n be_v either_o extraordinary_a or_o ordinary_a extraordinary_a as_o apostle_n prophet_n and_o evangelist_n or_o ordinary_a as_o elder_n and_o deacon_n platform_n of_o discipline_n chap._n 6._o sect_n 3._o quest_n 3._o how_o many_o sort_n of_o elder_n have_v christ_n appoint_v in_o his_o church_n answ_n of_o elder_n who_o be_v also_o in_o scripture_n call_v bishop_n there_o be_v two_o sort_n e._n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n some_o attend_v chief_o to_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n as_o the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n other_o attend_v especial_o unto_o rule_n who_o be_v therefore_o call_v ruling-elders_a platform_n of_o discipline_n chap._n 6._o sect_n 4._o quest_n 4._o have_v the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n a_o like_a power_n in_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n answ_n they_o be_v alike_o charge_v with_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n e._n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n and_o the_o application_n thereof_o and_o either_o of_o they_o to_o administer_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n unto_o the_o dispensation_n whereof_o they_o be_v alike_o call_v as_o also_o to_o execute_v the_o censure_n be_v a_o kind_n of_o application_n of_o the_o word_n platform_n of_o discipline_n chap._n 6._o sect_n 5._o quest_n 5._o be_v there_o any_o such_o thing_n as_o a_o outward_a call_v necessary_a to_o the_o constitute_n of_o a_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n answ_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o stand_n and_o a_o staple_n rule_n no_o man_n take_v this_o honour_n to_o himself_o hooker_n mr._n hooker_n but_o he_o that_o be_v call_v be_v aaron_n heb._n 5.9_o mr._n hooker_n surney_n of_o discipline_n part_n 2._o pag._n 42._o line_n 33._o 2._o without_o this_o call_v none_o can_v warrantable_o do_v any_o act_n that_o belong_v to_o any_o officer_n ibid._n pag._n 45._o line_n 28._o 3._o without_o this_o whatever_o be_v do_v in_o that_o behalf_n be_v void_a and_o of_o none_o effect_n ibid._n line_n 30._o quest_n 6._o may_v none_o then_o preach_v the_o word_n and_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o church_n but_o the_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n cotton_n mr._n cotton_n answ_n we_o be_v far_o from_o allow_v that_o sacrilegious_a usurpation_n of_o the_o minister_n office_n which_o we_o hear_v of_o to_o our_o grief_n to_o be_v practise_v in_o some_o place_n that_o private_a christian_n ordinary_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n public_o and_o to_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n mr._n cotton_n of_o the_o key_n pag._n 6._o line_n 33._o it_o be_v a_o frenzy_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n that_o begin_v to_o labour_v with_o the_o loathsomnesse_n of_o itself_o that_o any_o christian_n gift_v who_o can_v teach_v or_o minister_v a_o word_n of_o instruction_n to_o win_v a_o disciple_n after_o he_o that_o he_o in_o a_o corner_n may_v baptize_v he_o also_o who_o he_o have_v win_v to_o his_o opinion_n but_o as_o paul_n say_v of_o janne_n and_o jambres_n their_o madness_n be_v make_v appear_v to_o all_o who_o be_v not_o willing_a to_o shut_v their_o eye_n against_o the_o sun_n when_o it_o shine_v in_o its_o beauty_n for_o if_o the_o lord_n christ_n in_o his_o infinite_a wisdom_n and_o kingly_a care_n conceive_v it_o necessary_a for_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o place_n and_o the_o execution_n of_o the_o work_n of_o the_o deacon_n to_o appoint_v choice_a man_n and_o solemn_a ordination_n to_o authorise_v they_o to_o the_o work_n that_o they_o be_v call_v and_o fit_v to_o the_o work_n may_v be_v accept_v therein_o of_o the_o people_n and_o bless_v of_o he_o who_o do_v appoint_v they_o to_o the_o employment_n in_o reason_n what_o great_a need_n be_v there_o that_o person_n who_o be_v peculiar_o gift_v and_o furnish_v with_o grace_n and_o abitity_n shall_v be_v call_v to_o this_o work_n of_o preach_v and_o dispense_n these_o holy_a mystery_n a_o service_n above_o all_o other_o of_o great_a weight_n and_o worth_n add_v hereunto_o that_o the_o apostle_n as_o by_o a_o flame_a sword_n do_v stop_v the_o way_n to_o all_o pretender_n and_o therefore_o lay_v in_o this_o prohibition_n no_o man_n take_v this_o honour_n to_o himself_o but_o he_o that_o be_v call_v of_o god_n as_o aaron_n he_o must_v have_v a_o special_a call_n from_o god_n who_o must_v dare_v to_o meddle_v with_o a_o service_n which_o be_v of_o such_o peculiar_a eminence_n in_o the_o house_n of_o god_n yea_o the_o lord_n himself_o do_v appropriate_v this_o and_o that_o to_o some_o person_n who_o he_o put_v in_o place_n he_o give_v some_o to_o be_v pastor_n and_o teacher_n ephes_n 4.11_o be_v all_o apostle_n be_v all_o governor_n be_v all_o teacher_n 1_o cor._n 12.29_o this_o will_v bring_v confusion_n and_o so_o destruction_n to_o the_o whole_a mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 3._o pag._n 9_o line_n 8_o etc._n etc._n and_o part_v 2._o page_n 42._o line_n 23._o object_n 1._o but_o do_v not_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 14.31_o say_v you_o may_v all_o prophesy_v one_o by_o one_o that_o all_o may_v learn_v and_o all_o may_v be_v comfort_v answ_n 1._o that_o place_n in_o the_o cornith_n do_v not_o speak_v of_o ordinary_a private_a member_n cotton_n mr._n cotton_n but_o of_o man_n furnish_v with_o extraordinary_a gift_n the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n as_o
and_o therefore_o till_o he_o be_v reconcile_v to_o the_o church_n by_o the_o penitent_a and_o public_a acknowledgement_n of_o his_o sin_n before_o they_o he_o do_v abstain_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n according_a to_o the_o direction_n of_o our_o saviour_n who_o will_v not_o have_v a_o offender_n present_v himself_o nor_o his_o gift_n before_o the_o altar_n while_o the_o guilt_n of_o the_o offence_n of_o his_o brother_n lie_v upon_o he_o mat._n 5.23_o 24._o or_o as_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o law_n do_v forbear_v to_o eat_v of_o the_o holy_a thing_n while_o they_o lie_v in_o uncleanness_n leu._n 22._o 3_o 4._o or_o as_o one_o who_o lie_v in_o his_o uncleanness_n do_v rather_o pollute_v the_o holy_a ordinance_n of_o god_n by_o partake_v of_o it_o than_o receive_v any_o holiness_n from_o it_o mr._n cotton_v way_n of_o the_o church_n page_n 91._o line_n 26._o object_n but_o this_o seem_v to_o be_v but_o a_o voluntary_a act_n of_o the_o offend_a party_n this_o be_v not_o a_o church_n censure_n answ_n if_o the_o church_n discern_v the_o offend_a brother_n to_o be_v willing_a to_o hear_v but_o not_o yet_o full_o convince_v of_o his_o offence_n as_o in_o case_n of_o heresy_n they_o be_v to_o dispense_v to_o he_o a_o public_a admonition_n with_o declare_v the_o offender_n to_o be_v under_o the_o public_a offence_n of_o the_o church_n who_o do_v thereby_o withhold_v or_o suspend_v he_o from_o the_o holy_a fellowship_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n till_o his_o offence_n be_v remove_v by_o penitent_a confession_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n cap._n 14._o sect_n 2._o and_o this_o be_v true_o and_o proper_o s●spensio_fw-la per_fw-la modum_fw-la censurae_fw-la hitherto_o of_o church_n government_n and_o censure_n now_o out_o of_o these_o particular_n draw_v we_o these_o position_n with_o inference_n thereupon_o 1._o church-government_n or_o rule_n be_v place_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n who_o therefore_o be_v call_v ruler_n see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 1._o therefore_o the_o fraternity_n be_v not_o the_o seat_n or_o subject_n of_o rule_n or_o power_n 2._o the_o essential_o of_o church-government_n be_v unalterable_a see_v answer_n to_o quest_n 1._o therefore_o they_o who_o believe_v roll_a elder_n to_o be_v essential_o of_o government_n and_o yet_o constitute_v none_o in_o their_o church_n live_v in_o a_o neglect_n of_o duty_n contrary_n to_o their_o judgement_n and_o persuasion_n 3._o church_n censure_n be_v christ_n appointment_n see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 7._o and_o can_v be_v dispense_v at_o least_o some_o of_o they_o without_o ruler_n see_v answ_o to_o q._n 19_o therefore_o church_n that_o have_v no_o ruler_n do_v not_o nor_o can_v observe_v all_o the_o ordinance_n and_o appoinment_n of_o jesus_n christ_n 4._o petty_a matter_n and_o small_a aberration_n be_v not_o to_o be_v censure_v by_o excommunication_n but_o such_o evil_n as_o be_v either_o heinous_a and_o abominable_a or_o at_o least_o be_v such_o as_o the_o mind_n and_o conscience_n of_o a_o man_n enlighten_v by_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n will_v condemn_v in_o any_o upon_o the_o first_o serious_a consideration_n see_v answer_n to_o quest_n 20_o 21._o 5._o offence_n be_v not_o immediate_o and_o at_o the_o first_o dash_n to_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o church_n or_o community_n but_o first_o to_o the_o elder_n to_o be_v consider_v debate_v ripen_v by_o they_o receive_v as_o serious_a and_o weighty_a or_o reject_v as_o slight_v and_o frivolous_a see_v answer_n to_o quest_n 11._o and_o therefore_o that_o tell_v the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o next_o immediate_a step_n after_o the_o first_o and_o second_o brethren_n and_o private_a admonition_n it_o be_v not_o tell_v the_o fraternity_n or_o community_n but_o tell_v the_o elder_n 6._o the_o power_n which_o the_o brethren_n have_v in_o censure_n it_o be_v not_o a_o power_n of_o rule_n and_o authority_n but_o a_o power_n of_o liberty_n and_o the_o judgement_n they_o pass_v it_o be_v not_o 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table_n and_o other_o church-priviledge_n till_o they_o have_v pass_v a_o trial_n and_o have_v receive_v approbation_n of_o their_o fitness_n for_o those_o enjoyment_n a_o offend_a brother_n lie_v under_o public_a admonition_n be_v suspend_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n before_o he_o be_v excommunicate_v therefore_o suspension_n be_v a_o censure_n distinct_a from_o admonition_n and_o excommunication_n chap._n vi_o of_o combination_n or_o consotiation_n of_o church_n into_o class_n or_o synod_n question_v 1_o whither_o be_v it_o lawful_a for_o particular_a congregation_n consist_v of_o elder_n and_o brethren_n and_o walk_v with_o a_o right_a foot_n in_o the_o truth_n and_o peace_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o join_v together_o in_o consotiation_n on_o combination_n of_o church_n answ_n though_o the_o church_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n consist_v of_o elder_n and_o brethren_n cotton_n mr._n cotton_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o all_o church_n power_n needful_a 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