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believe_v or_o hold_v 2._o that_o the_o dr_n interpretation_n of_o st._n paul_n word_n be_v altogether_o force_v and_o by_o no_o mean_n warrant_v by_o theodoret_n or_o any_o ancient_a father_n of_o the_o church_n on_o the_o contrary_a theodoret_n be_v entire_o we_o for_o he_o say_v in_o that_o very_a place_n cite_v by_o the_o doctor_n that_o therefore_o these_o heretic_n worship_v angel_n because_o they_o believe_v 44._o vol._n 2._o edit_n post_fw-la ob_fw-la pag._n 44._o the_o law_n be_v give_v by_o them_o he_o say_v indeed_o in_o a_o other_o place_n which_o the_o doctor_n quote_v that_o we_o must_v send_v up_o thanksgiving_n to_o god_n and_o the_o father_n by_o christ_n and_o not_o by_o the_o angel_n and_o this_o i_o hope_v we_o be_v careful_a to_o do_v for_o i_o be_o sure_a we_o put_v up_o all_o our_o prayer_n to_o god_n and_o the_o father_n by_z or_o through_o the_o merit_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o not_o of_o any_o angel_n or_o saint_n but_o sure_o it_o be_v not_o reasonable_a to_o believe_v that_o theodoret_n there_o mean_v that_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o desire_v the_o angel_n or_o saint_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o since_o he_o himself_o as_o i_o observe_v before_o so_o express_o say_v we_o not_o address_v ourselves_o to_o the_o saint_n as_o god_n but_o we_o pray_v unto_o they_o as_o divine_a man_n that_o they_o will_v please_v to_o be_v legate_n or_o intercessor_n for_o we_o 17._o comment_fw-fr in_o epist_n â—d_a colos_n c._n 3._o v._n 17._o 3._o that_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o laâ—dicea_n as_o theodoret_n tell_v we_o speak_v only_o of_o these_o heretic_n mean_v by_o st._n paul_n who_o forsake_v the_o church_n and_o give_v themselves_o to_o secret_a idolatry_n that_o be_v as_o the_o father_n have_v always_o understand_v that_o word_n offer_v sacrifice_n to_o angel_n but_o the_o word_n of_o the_o canon_n be_v so_o plain_a and_o full_a to_o this_o purpose_n that_o there_o need_v no_o read_n upon_o it_o 4._o that_o the_o doctor_n may_v very_o well_o have_v forbear_v his_o exclamation_n for_o i_o assure_v he_o that_o except_v the_o general_n confession_n aâ—_n aforesaid_a we_o do_v not_o invocate_v or_o pray_v to_o angel_n in_o the_o public_a office_n of_o the_o church_n we_o have_v but_o one_o feast_n in_o the_o year_n wherein_o we_o commemorate_v angel_n which_o be_v that_o of_o st._n michael_n the_o archangel_n and_o in_o this_o except_v one_o anthem_n in_o the_o breviary_n and_o one_o versile_n in_o the_o mass_n which_o be_v not_o proper_o prayer_n where_o it_o be_v say_v in_o the_o first_o archangel_n michael_n be_v mindful_a of_o we_o and_o pray_v for_o we_o to_o the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o in_o the_o second_o holy_a michael_n defend_v we_o in_o battle_n that_o we_o perish_v not_o in_o the_o dreadful_a judgement_n there_o be_v no_o invocate_a or_o put_v up_o of_o prayer_n to_o st._n michael_n or_o any_o other_o angel_n but_o it_o seem_v the_o doctor_n be_v warm_a upon_o the_o matter_n and_o in_o such_o a_o case_n 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justice_n bind_v to_o do_v so_o and_o be_v not_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n christ_n favourite_n do_v not_o he_o call_v they_o his_o friend_n vos_fw-fr amici_n mei_fw-la estis_fw-la 19.28_o job_n 15.14_o mat._n 19.28_o and_o what_o be_v more_o do_v not_o he_o tell_v his_o apostle_n that_o they_o shall_v sit_v upon_o throne_n judge_v the_o twelve_o tribe_n of_o israel_n and_o why_o may_v not_o then_o these_o judge_n and_o friend_n and_o favourite_n of_o jesus_n christ_n beg_v of_o he_o to_o have_v mercy_n upon_o poor_a miserable_a sinner_n though_o they_o can_v in_o justice_n require_v it_o at_o his_o hand_n but_o the_o doctor_n be_v mistake_n consist_v in_o this_o that_o he_o do_v not_o or_o rather_o will_v not_o distinguish_v between_o a_o intercession_n found_v in_o justice_n and_o equity_n and_o a_o intercession_n found_v only_o in_o favour_n and_o good_a will_n the_o first_o i_o grant_v be_v peculiar_a only_o to_o christ_n for_o the_o reason_n offer_v by_o the_o doctor_n but_o 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the_o martyr_n with_o a_o religious_a solemnity_n to_o excite_v we_o to_o their_o imitation_n to_o be_v partaker_n of_o their_o merit_n and_o to_o be_v assist_v by_o their_o prayer_n yet_o so_o as_o that_o we_o erect_v no_o altar_n to_o the_o martyr_n but_o to_o the_o god_n of_o martyr_n though_o in_o remembrance_n of_o the_o martyr_n for_o who_o of_o the_o prelate_n stand_v at_o the_o altar_n where_o the_o body_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v ever_o say_v i_o offer_v to_o you_o peter_n paul_n or_o cyprian_a but_o that_o which_o be_v offer_v be_v offer_v to_o god_n who_o crown_v the_o martyr_n at_o the_o memorial_n keep_v memorial_n altar_n where_o the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n be_v keep_v of_o those_o who_o he_o crown_v to_o the_o end_n that_o from_o the_o remembrance_n of_o those_o place_n great_a affection_n may_v rise_v in_o we_o to_o whet_v our_o love_n towards_o those_o we_o may_v imitate_v and_o towards_o he_o god_n by_o who_o help_n we_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o imitate_v we_o 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the_o doctor_n have_v no_o reason_n to_o charge_v such_o prayer_n upon_o the_o public_a office_n of_o the_o church_n though_o they_o be_v find_v in_o those_o private_a office_n of_o the_o b._n virgin_n 70._o vol._n 2._o pag._n 70._o his_o four_o objection_n be_v to_o this_o purpose_n to_o pray_v to_o saint_n in_o all_o place_n and_o at_o all_o time_n and_o for_o all_o sort_n of_o blessing_n do_v suppose_v they_o to_o have_v the_o incommunicable_a perfection_n of_o the_o divine_a nature_n impart_v to_o they_o or_o inherent_a in_o they_o namely_o omnipotence_n and_o omniscience_n and_o immense-presence_n answ_n this_o be_v the_o great_a popular_a argument_n that_o take_v so_o much_o with_o the_o weak_a sort_n of_o people_n who_o measure_n all_o thing_n by_o their_o own_o capacity_n and_o do_v not_o conceive_v how_o saint_n and_o angel_n shall_v hear_v at_o so_o great_a a_o distance_n because_o they_o can_v do_v so_o themselves_o it_o will_v be_v therefore_o requisite_a to_o take_v some_o pain_n to_o clear_v this_o difficulty_n and_o if_o it_o be_v possible_a to_o disabuse_v these_o simple_a but_o well-meaning_a people_n concern_v these_o gross_a and_o carnal_a thought_n which_o that_o i_o may_v the_o more_o plain_o do_v i_o shall_v lay_v down_o these_o know_v and_o evident_a ground_n 1._o that_o angel_n and_o saint_n in_o heaven_n have_v natural_o a_o faculty_n of_o understanding_n and_o communicate_v their_o thought_n that_o be_v a_o power_n connatural_a to_o their_o be_v of_o perceive_v the_o thought_n of_o other_o that_o be_v direct_v to_o they_o and_o of_o impart_v their_o own_o thought_n to_o other_o for_o these_o be_v essential_a property_n of_o intelligent_a being_n 2._o that_o angel_n and_o saint_n in_o heaven_n do_v neither_o see_v nor_o hear_v in_o the_o sense_n we_o common_o take_v these_o word_n for_o see_v they_o neither_o have_v eye_n nor_o ear_n which_o be_v the_o organ_n of_o see_v and_o hear_v they_o can_v be_v say_v proper_o to_o see_v or_o hear_v but_o only_o to_o vnderstard_n which_o be_v what_o we_o mean_v when_o we_o say_v the_o saint_n do_v hear_v we_o 3._o hence_o follow_v that_o saint_n and_o angel_n may_v hear_v that_o be_v understand_v we_o when_o we_o direct_v our_o thought_n to_o they_o at_o any_o distance_n even_o at_o ten_o million_o of_o miles_n as_o well_o as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v in_o the_o same_o room_n with_o we_o for_o since_o our_o word_n or_o thought_n be_v not_o convey_v to_o they_o by_o mean_n of_o any_o organ_n nor_o by_o the_o motion_n or_o impulse_n of_o the_o air_n as_o it_o happen_v with_o we_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o distance_n or_o nearness_n of_o place_n can_v have_v no_o part_n in_o their_o way_n of_o understanding_n 4._o that_o god-almighty_a be_v able_a to_o reveal_v in_o a_o instant_a all_o our_o prayer_n to_o the_o angel_n and_o saint_n be_v they_o never_o so_o far_o distant_a from_o we_o though_o angel_n and_o saint_n be_v not_o properly_z speaking_z distant_a from_o we_o distance_n in_o propriety_n of_o speech_n be_v that_o space_n which_o be_v between_o two_o body_n now_o whether_o we_o conceive_v that_o the_o angel_n and_o saint_n when_o we_o direct_v our_o thought_n to_o they_o do_v hear_v or_o rather_o understand_v we_o by_o that_o natural_a faculty_n which_o be_v essential_a to_o all_o intelligent_a being_n or_o that_o god_n reveal_v our_o thought_n to_o they_o we_o do_v not_o ascribe_v any_o of_o the_o incommunicable_a perfection_n of_o the_o divine_a nature_n to_o they_o namely_o omnipotence_n omniscience_n immense-presence_n etc._n etc._n not_o if_o we_o conceive_v that_o they_o understand_v our_o prayer_n by_o that_o natural_a faculty_n which_o be_v essential_a to_o their_o be_v 1._o we_o do_v not_o