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for_o he_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o his_o own_o work_n and_o not_o we_o 2._o the_o thing_n be_v not_o sinful_a though_o inconvenient_a 3._o obedience_n be_v command_v to_o our_o lawful_a governor_n we_o must_v obey_v in_o all_o thing_n lawful_a 424._o and_o when_o we_o do_v obey_v in_o a_o case_n of_o miscommand_v it_o be_v not_o a_o do_v evil_a that_o good_a may_v come_v of_o it_o as_o some_o do_v misconceive_v but_o it_o be_v only_o a_o submit_v to_o that_o which_o be_v ill_o command_v but_o not_o evil_a in_o he_o that_o do_v submit_v it_o be_v the_o determiner_n that_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o inconvenience_n and_o not_o the_o obeyer_n nor_o be_v it_o inconvenient_a for_o i_o to_o obey_v though_o it_o be_v worse_o perhaps_o to_o he_o that_o command_v while_o he_o sin_v in_o command_v he_o may_v make_v it_o my_o duty_n to_o obey_v §_o 6._o dist_n 4._o we_o must_v distinguish_v between_o ceremony_n impose_v by_o a_o lawful_a magistrate_n 396._o or_o church-governor_n and_o such_o as_o be_v impose_v by_o usurper_n or_o man_n without_o authority_n §_o 25._o prop._n 12._o it_o may_v be_v very_o sinful_a to_o command_v some_o ceremony_n which_o may_v lawful_o 398._o yea_o must_v in_o duty_n be_v use_v by_o the_o subject_a when_o they_o be_v command_v §_o 27._o prop._n 14._o yet_o certain_a thing_n that_o be_v common_o call_v ceremony_n may_v lawful_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n upon_o humane_a imposition_n and_o when_o it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n no_o person_n shall_v disobey_v the_o command_n of_o their_o lawful_a governor_n in_o such_o thing_n of_o set-form_n and_o the_o book_n of_o common-prayer_n prop._n 1._o a_o stint_a liturgy_n be_v in_o itself_o lawful_a 2._o a_o stint_a liturgy_n in_o some_o part_n of_o public_a service_n 358._o be_v ordinary_o necessary_a 3._o in_o the_o part_n where_o it_o be_v not_o of_o necessity_n it_o may_v not_o only_o be_v submit_v to_o but_o desire_v when_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n require_v it_o 7._o the_o safe_a way_n of_o compose_v such_o a_o public_a form_n 359._o be_v to_o take_v it_o all_o for_o matter_n and_o word_n out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n 8._o yet_o be_v not_o this_o of_o such_o necessity_n but_o that_o we_o may_v join_v in_o it_o or_o use_v it_o if_o the_o form_n of_o word_n be_v not_o from_o scripture_n prop._n 1._o a_o stint_a liturgy_n be_v in_o itself_o lawful_a this_o be_v thus_o prove_v argument_n 1_o that_o which_o be_v not_o direct_o or_o consequential_o forbid_v by_o god_n remain_v lawful_a a_o stint_a liturgy_n be_v not_o direct_o or_o consequential_o forbid_v by_o god_n therefore_o it_o remain_v lawful_a the_o major_n be_v undoubted's_n because_o nothing_o but_o a_o prohibition_n can_v make_v a_o thing_n unlawful_a sin_n be_v a_o transgression_n of_o a_o law_n where_o there_o be_v no_o law_n there_o be_v no_o trangression_n and_o yet_o i_o have_v hear_v very_o reverend_a man_n answer_v this_o that_o it_o be_v enough_o that_o it_o be_v not_o command_v though_o not_o forbid_v which_o be_v plain_o to_o deny_v both_o scripture_n and_o civil_a principle_n now_o for_o the_o minor_a 361._o that_o a_o stint_a liturgy_n be_v not_o forbid_v we_o need_v no_o other_o proof_n than_o that_o no_o prohibition_n can_v be_v produce_v argument_n 6._o if_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o the_o people_n to_o use_v a_o stint_a form_n of_o word_n in_o public_a prayer_n 364._o then_o be_v it_o in_o itself_o lawful_a for_o the_o pastor_n but_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o the_o people_n for_o the_o pastor_n prayer_n which_o they_o must_v pray_v over_o with_o he_o and_o not_o only_o hear_v it_o be_v a_o stint_a form_n to_o they_o even_o as_o much_o as_o if_o he_o have_v learn_v it_o out_o of_o a_o book_n they_o be_v to_o follow_v he_o in_o his_o method_n and_o word_n as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o book-prayer_n argument_n 7._o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o use_v a_o form_n in_o preach_v therefore_o a_o stint_a liturgy_n be_v lawful_a 1._o because_o preach_v be_v a_o part_n of_o that_o liturgy_n 2._o because_o the_o reason_n be_v the_o same_o for_o prayer_n as_o for_o that_o in_o the_o main_a argument_n 8._o that_o which_o have_v be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o scripture-time_n and_o down_o to_o this_o day_n and_o be_v yet_o the_o practice_n of_o almost_o all_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n on_o earth_n be_v not_o like_a to_o be_v unlawful_a but_o such_o be_v the_o use_n of_o some_o stint_a form_n of_o public_a service_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o the_o jew_n church_n and_o approve_v by_o christ_n i_o have_v show_v that_o it_o have_v be_v of_o ancient_a use_n in_o the_o church_n since_o christ_n and_o be_v at_o this_o day_n in_o use_n in_o africa_n asia_n europe_n even_o among_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o france_n holland_n geneva_n etc._n etc._n be_v so_o well_o know_v that_o i_o think_v i_o need_v not_o stand_v to_o prove_v it_o yea_o those_o few_o that_o seem_v to_o disuse_n it_o do_v yet_o use_v it_o in_o psalm_n and_o other_o part_n of_o worship_n as_o for_o the_o common-prayer_n itself_o i_o never_o reject_v it_o because_o it_o be_v a_o form_n 421._o nor_o think_v it_o simple_o unlawful_a because_o it_o be_v such_o a_o form_n but_o have_v make_v use_n of_o it_o and_o will_v do_v again_o in_o the_o like_a case_n of_o ceremony_n the_o ceremony_n controvert_v among_o we_o 409._o be_v especial_o the_o surplice_n the_o gesture_n of_o kneel_v in_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n the_o ring_n in_o marriage_n lay_v the_o hand_n on_o the_o book_n in_o take_v a_o oath_n the_o organ_n and_o church-music_n holiday_n altar_n rail_n and_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n of_o the_o surplice_n some_o decent_a habit_n be_v necessary_a either_o the_o magistrate_n 409._o or_o the_o minister_n himself_o or_o the_o associatcd_a pastor_n must_v determine_v what_o i_o think_v neither_o magistrate_n nor_o synod_n shall_v do_v any_o more_o than_o hinder_v undecency_n but_o yet_o if_o they_o do_v more_o and_o tie_v all_o to_o one_o habit_n add_v suppose_v it_o be_v a_o undecent_a habit_n yet_o this_o be_v but_o a_o imprudent_a use_n of_o power_n it_o be_v a_o thing_n within_o the_o magistrate_n reach_v he_o do_v not_o a_o alien_n work_n but_o his_o own_o work_n amiss_o and_o therefore_o the_o thing_n in_o itself_o be_v lawful_a i_o will_v obey_v he_o and_o use_v that_o garment_n if_o i_o can_v not_o be_v dispense_v with_o yea_o though_o secondary_o the_o whiteness_n be_v to_o signify_v purity_n and_o so_o it_o be_v make_v a_o teach_a sign_n yet_o will_v i_o obey_v of_o kneel_v at_o the_o sacrament_n but_o yet_o 411._o as_o sinful_o as_o this_o gesture_n be_v impose_v for_o my_o part_n i_o do_v obey_v the_o imposer_n and_o will_v do_v if_o it_o be_v to_o do_v again_o rather_o than_o disturb_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n or_o be_v deprive_v of_o its_o communion_n for_o god_n have_v make_v some_o gesture_n necessary_a and_o confine_v i_o to_o none_o but_o leave_v it_o to_o humane_a determination_n i_o shall_v submit_v to_o magistrate_n in_o their_o proper_a work_n even_o when_o they_o miss_v it_o in_o the_o manner_n i_o be_o not_o sure_a that_o christ_n intend_v the_o example_n of_o himself_o and_o his_o apostle_n as_o obligatory_a to_o we_o that_o shall_v succeed_v i_o be_o sure_a it_o prove_v sit_v lawful_a but_o i_o be_o not_o sure_a that_o it_o prove_v it_o necessary_a though_o very_o convenient_a but_o i_o be_o sure_a he_o have_v command_v i_o obedience_n and_o peace_n of_o the_o ring_n in_o marriage_n and_o for_o the_o ring_n in_o marriage_n 411._o i_o see_v no_o reason_n to_o scruple_n the_o lawfulness_n of_o it_o for_o though_o the_o papist_n make_v a_o sacrament_n of_o