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A97168 A convocation speech, by Mr. Thomas Warmstry, one of the clerks for the Diocesse of Worcester: against images, altars, crosses, the new canons, and the oath, &c. Warmstry, Thomas, 1610-1665. 1641 (1641) Wing W882; Thomason E199_23; ESTC R14000 17,332 25

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