Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
church_n ancient_a father_n primitive_a 3,741 5 8.1245 4 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A19242 The abatement of popish braggs, pretending Scripture to be theirs. Retorted by the hand of Alexander Cooke Cooke, Alexander, 1564-1632. 1625 (1625) STC 5658; ESTC S108620 41,426 69

There are 2 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

let_v i_o entreat_v this_o of_o you_o that_o you_o will_v forbear_v to_o censure_v either_o our_o book_n or_o our_o person_n upon_o your_o priest_n bare_a information_n for_o their_o word_n be_v no_o gospel_n their_o tongue_n no_o slander_n and_o that_o you_o will_v remember_v that_o of_o g_o tertullian_n quid_fw-la 1._o iniquius_fw-la quam_fw-la ut_fw-la oderint_fw-la homines_fw-la quod_fw-la ignorant_a etiamsi_fw-la res_fw-la mereatur_fw-la odium_fw-la tuncenim_fw-la meretur_fw-la cum_fw-la cognoscitur_fw-la a_o mereatur_fw-la vacant_a auten_v meriti_fw-la notitia_fw-la unde_fw-la odij_fw-la iustitia_fw-la defenditur_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la deeventu_fw-la sed_fw-la de_fw-la conscientia_fw-la probanda_fw-la est_fw-la with_o which_o i_o end_n wish_v to_o you_o all_o as_o to_o myself_o a_o comfortable_a life_n and_o bless_a death_n leeds_n in_o yorkshire_n may_v 20._o 1625._o alexander_z cook_n a_o dialogue_n betwixt_o a_o protestant_n and_o a_o papist_n wherein_o be_v manifest_v the_o papist_n brag_v that_o scripture_n make_v for_o they_o protestant_n oh_o well_o meet_v once_o again_o where_o have_v you_o be_v that_o i_o never_o see_v you_o since_o we_o talk_v about_o pope_n joane_n be_v you_o the_o same_o man_n for_o religion_n that_o you_o be_v then_o papist_n yea_o true_o or_o rather_o more_o resolute_a and_o confident_a prot._n what_o new_a argument_n have_v you_o light_v on_o to_o increase_v your_o resolution_n and_o confidence_n for_o my_o part_n i_o be_o every_o day_n further_o out_o of_o love_n with_o your_o religion_n than_o other_o pa._n the_o argument_n which_o have_v double_v my_o resolution_n and_o confidence_n be_v diverse_a whereof_o the_o first_o be_v this_o 58_o that_o i_o find_v sentence_n give_v for_o we_o catholic_n against_o you_o protestant_n in_o all_o the_o tribunal_n of_o god_n church_n i_o find_v that_o all_o the_o write_n of_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n profess_v for_o us._n prot._n what_o the_o write_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o of_o the_o apostle_n and_o of_o the_o father_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o of_o the_o counsel_n do_v you_o find_v that_o all_o profess_v for_o you_o pa._n yea_o all_o of_o they_o 10._o quaecunque_fw-la vel_fw-la opera_fw-la vel_fw-la fragmenta_fw-la supersunt_fw-la eorum_fw-la qui_fw-la disiunctissimis_fw-la terris_fw-la euangelium_fw-la severunt_fw-la omnes_fw-la nobis_fw-la unam_fw-la fidem_fw-la exhibent_fw-la quam_fw-la hodie_fw-la catholici_fw-la profitemur_fw-la there_o be_v not_o a_o book_n nor_o a_o piece_n of_o a_o book_n extant_a write_v by_o the_o first_o preacher_n of_o the_o gospel_n whensoever_o or_o how_o far_o so_o ever_o they_o live_v one_o from_o another_o but_o it_o give_v witness_n to_o the_o catholic_a faith_n which_o we_o profess_v at_o this_o day_n prot._n can_v you_o make_v proof_n thereof_o unto_o i_o and_o i_o will_v be_v of_o your_o religion_n pa._n that_o i_o can_v and_o i_o will_v first_o begin_v with_o scripture_n for_o i_o be_o of_o 193._o doctor_n saunders_n opinion_n that_o there_o be_v most_o plain_a scripture_n in_o all_o point_n for_o the_o catholic_a faith_n and_o none_o at_o all_o against_o the_o same_o and_o of_o 48._o doctor_n bristoes_n mind_n who_o word_n these_o be_v most_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o from_o the_o begin_n of_o genesis_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o apocalypse_v there_o be_v no_o text_n that_o make_v for_o you_o nor_o against_o we_o but_o all_o for_o us._n prot._n say_v you_o so_o very_o and_o if_o the_o scripture_n be_v for_o you_o i_o will_v be_v with_o you_o for_o i_o like_v well_o of_o 80._o saint_n basils_n motion_n to_o one_o with_o who_o he_o have_v a_o controversy_n stemus_fw-la arbitratu_fw-la inspiratae_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la scriptura_fw-la &_o apud_fw-la quos_fw-la inveniuntur_fw-la dogmata_fw-la divinis_fw-la oraculis_fw-la consona_fw-la illis_fw-la omnino_fw-la veritas_fw-la adiudicetur_fw-la sententiae_fw-la let_v we_o stand_v to_o the_o arbiterment_n of_o holy_a scripture_n and_o let_v they_o be_v think_v to_o have_v the_o truth_n on_o their_o side_n who_o opinion_n be_v find_v to_o be_v agreeable_a to_o scripture_n but_o let_v i_o tell_v you_o a_o word_n or_o two_o by_o the_o way_n and_o they_o be_v these_o viz._n that_o you_o be_v not_o more_o thorough_o persuade_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o your_o two_o doctor_n speech_n than_o i_o be_o of_o a_o gentlemuns_n speech_n of_o our_o religion_n who_o be_v importune_v by_o a_o idle_a questionist_n of_o your_o side_n to_o tell_v where_o our_o religion_n be_v before_o luther_n time_n return_v he_o this_o answer_n that_o our_o religion_n be_v always_o in_o the_o bible_n where_o your_o religion_n never_o be_v in_o which_o persuasion_n i_o be_o the_o more_o confirm_v by_o this_o that_o there_o 105._o be_v of_o yourselves_o no_o fool_n i_o wiss_v who_o write_v that_o some_o among_o you_o pain_fw-la peceatum_fw-la putant_fw-la scripturas_fw-la legere_fw-la ne_fw-la sic_fw-la siant_fw-la haeretici_fw-la do_v think_v it_o almost_o a_o sin_n to_o read_v the_o scripture_n lest_o by_o read_v of_o they_o they_o shall_v prove_v heretic_n for_o if_o your_o religion_n be_v in_o the_o bible_n and_o that_o in_o so_o plain_a manner_n as_o you_o brag_v why_o shall_v any_o of_o you_o be_v so_o afraid_a of_o open_v a_o bible_n why_o do_v one_o of_o your_o 428._o jesuit_n confess_v that_o lectis_fw-la bebliotu●t_fw-la cicius_fw-la haereticum_fw-la lutheranum_n quam_fw-la catholicum_fw-la romanum_fw-la facit_fw-la the_o read_n of_o the_o bible_n make_v rather_o heretical_a lutheran_n than_o romau_n catholic_n why_o suffer_v you_o this_o marginal_a note_n 1530._o nunc_fw-la ex●●udit_fw-la haresy_n to_o be_v set_v over_o these_o word_n of_o chrysosta●●_n ●g●oratio_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la peperit_fw-la haereses_fw-la pa._n i_o mean_v not_o to_o take_v upon_o i_o the_o justify_n of_o every_o man_n private_a conceit_n or_o speech_n but_o what_o i_o myself_o have_v say_v all_o that_o shall_v be_v make_v good_a i_o will_v prove_v unto_o you_o the_o troth_n of_o our_o religion_n by_o the_o bible_n prot._n now_o indeed_o i_o be_o afraid_a you_o be_v bewitch_v with_o that_o damnable_a opinion_n which_o of_o late_a year_n have_v run_v current_o among_o you_o viz._n sunt_fw-la 12._o scriptura_fw-la v●lut_fw-la nasus_fw-la cereus_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la her_o sum_n illorsum_fw-la &_o in_o quam_fw-la volueris_fw-la partem_fw-la trahi_fw-la retrahi_fw-la fingique_fw-la facile_fw-la permittit_fw-la &_o tanquam_fw-la plumbea_fw-la quadam_fw-la lesbi●●disicationis_fw-la regula_fw-la quam_fw-la no●_n 〈◊〉_d difficile_fw-la accommodare_fw-la ad_fw-la quiduis_fw-la volueris_fw-la the_o scripture_n be_v like_o a_o nose_n of_o wax_n which_o may_v be_v writhen_a this_o way_n or_o that_o way_n backward_o or_o forward_o as_o a_o manwould_v will_v have_v it_o and_o with_o that_o of_o quintinus_n the_o parisian_a tertul._n doctor_n commend_v by_o pamelius_n who_o write_v thus_o pamel_n tam_fw-la facile_fw-la est_fw-la im●_n facilius_fw-la est_fw-la adres_n profanas_fw-la &_o impias_fw-la pr●bandas_fw-la detorquere_fw-la sanctam_fw-la scripturam_fw-la quam_fw-la facile_fw-la est_fw-la &_o pedibus_fw-la ac_fw-la semi-pedibus_a aut_fw-la penthememeribus_fw-la virgilianis_fw-la epithalmia_fw-la sen_fw-la quiduis_fw-la aliud_fw-la in_o unum_fw-la congerere_fw-la it_o be_v as_o casie_a yea_o it_o be_v more_o easy_a to_o wrest_v the_o scripture_n to_o the_o prove_v of_o any_o villainy_n or_o impiety_n then_o to_o make_v a_o love_n song_n by_o snatch_v here_o a_o patch_n and_o there_o a_o patch_n of_o a_o verse_n out_o of_o virgil._n and_o that_o in_o confidence_n hereof_o you_o hope_v to_o make_v a_o show_n of_o somewhat_o out_o of_o the_o bible_n for_o the_o prove_v of_o your_o religion_n otherwise_o i_o know_v not_o what_o shall_v move_v you_o to_o begin_v with_o scripture_n you_o have_v forget_v i_o believe_v that_o 48._o doctor_n bristol_n describe_v the_o mean_n to_o make_v plain_a demonstration_n that_o heretic_n have_v no_o evidence_n but_o you_o all_o advise_v his_o agent_n to_o labour_v still_o to_o get_v the_o heretic_n out_o of_o their_o weak_a and_o false_a castle_n of_o holy_a scripture_n into_o the_o plaint_n field_n of_o counsel_n and_o father_n for_o all_o his_o brag_n of_o the_o scripture_n he_o put_v but_o a_o little_a trust_n in_o they_o he_o be_v loath_a to_o have_v they_o in_o the_o foreward_n pa._n but_o i_o be_o content_a they_o match_v in_o the_o foreward_n if_o you_o will_v believe_v i_o prot._n why_o but_o i_o pray_v you_o then_o place_v the_o best_a foremost_a and_o if_o we_o fall_v into_o dispute_n with_o saint_n peter_n supremacy_n trouble_v i_o not_o with_o such_o text_n as_o some_o of_o your_o 1552._o rabbi_n allege_v for_o it_o tell_v i_o not_o that_o our_o saviour_n christ_n say_v unto_o s._n peter_n only_o duc_n in_o altum_fw-la launch_v into_o the_o deep_a no●_n potuisti_fw-la una_fw-la hora_fw-la vigilare_fw-la mecum_fw-la can_v thou_o not_o watch_v one_o hour_n with_o i_o sequere_fw-la i_o follow_v i_o neither_o tell_v i_o in_o way_n of_o prove_v the_o same_o that_o s._n peter_n cut_v off_o malous_a care_n and_o if_o from_o that_o we_o fall_v
because_o as_o 214._o they_o say_v in_o no_o one_o point_n that_o they_o can_v hear_v of_o will_v any_o of_o we_o be_v try_v by_o the_o judgement_n and_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n i_o know_v the_o man_n &_o what_o become_v of_o he_o he_o be_v hang_v at_o 1581._o tyburn_n for_o treason_n who_o first_o broach_v that_o slander_n on_o tobith_n matthew_n the_o most_o reverend_a archbishop_n of_o york_n at_o this_o day_n who_o be_v almost_o eighty_o year_n old_a preach_v more_o sermon_n in_o a_o year_n than_o you_o can_v prove_v have_v be_v preach_v by_o all_o your_o pope_n since_o gregory_n the_o great_a his_o day_n and_o i_o know_v that_o that_o 5._o man_n vaunt_v ad_fw-la patres_fw-la si_fw-la quando_fw-la licebit_fw-la accedere_fw-la confectum_fw-la est_fw-la praelium_fw-la tàm_fw-la sunt_fw-la nostri_fw-la quam_fw-la gregorius_n 13._o filiorum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la pater_fw-la amantissimus_fw-la if_o controversy_n of_o religion_n come_v once_o to_o the_o decision_n of_o the_o father_n all_o will_v go_v on_o your_o side_n for_o the_o father_n be_v as_o flat_a for_o you_o as_o gregory_z the_o thirteen_o your_o belove_a pope_n yea_o and_o i_o know_v your_o lay_n 4._o catholic_n in_o their_o petition_n to_o his_o majesty_n suggest_v that_o for_o one_o place_n of_o a_o father_n evil_n understand_v sometime_o falsify_v sometime_o mutilate_v and_o sometime_o whole_o corrupt_v bring_v by_o we_o they_o can_v produce_v a_o thousand_o not_o by_o patch_n and_o mammock_n as_o we_o do_v but_o whole_a page_n whole_a chapter_n whole_a book_n and_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o catholic_a church_n yet_o i_o be_o of_o 140._o scultetus_n mind_n that_o d._n whitaker_n speak_v nothing_o but_o the_o truth_n when_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o campian_n he_o avouch_v patres_fw-la in_o maximis_fw-la iudic_fw-la ijs_fw-la toti_fw-la sunt_fw-la nostri_fw-la in_fw-la levioribus_fw-la varij_fw-la in_fw-la minutissimis_fw-la vestri_fw-la the_o father_n in_o main_n controsy_n be_v whole_o we_o in_o the_o lesser_a some_o we_o some_o you_o in_o the_o lest_o you_o not_o we_o yea_o i_o be_o of_o d._n fine_a raynolds_n mind_n who_o protest_v that_o in_o his_o opinion_n not_o one_o of_o all_o the_o father_n be_v a_o papist_n especial_o consider_v the_o very_a essence_n of_o a_o papist_n consist_v in_o opinion_n of_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n and_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n be_v not_o allow_v by_o any_o of_o the_o father_n pa._n r_o why_o but_o you_o will_v not_o deny_v i_o be_o sure_a that_o some_o of_o your_o predecessor_n as_o for_o example_n luther_n have_v speak_v scornful_o of_o the_o father_n be_v not_o these_o his_o word_n nihil_fw-la curo_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o care_v not_o if_o a_o thousand_o augustine_n a_o thousand_o cyprian_n a_o thousand_o church_n think_v otherwise_o then_o i_o do_v prot._n luther_n persuade_v himself_o that_o the_o word_n of_o god_n make_v for_o he_o in_o a_o controversy_n which_o he_o handle_v by_o way_n of_o supposal_n that_o austin_n and_o cyprian_n etc._n etc._n think_v otherwise_o profess_v that_o have_v the_o word_n with_o he_o he_o care_v not_o who_o they_o be_v not_o how_o many_o they_o be_v who_o be_v against_o he_o and_o do_v you_o think_v that_o therein_o he_o speak_v scornful_o of_o the_o father_n what_o do_v you_o think_v then_o of_o he_o who_o persuade_v himself_o that_o some_o of_o your_o pope_n make_v for_o he_o protest_v he_o will_v rest_v more_o thereon_o then_o upon_o thousand_o augustine_n thousand_o jeroms_n thousand_o gregory_n ego_fw-la ut_fw-la ingenuè_fw-fr ●atcor_n plus_fw-fr unt_fw-la summo_fw-la pontificicrederem_fw-la in_o his_o qui_fw-la fidci_fw-la mysteria_fw-la tangunt_fw-la quam_fw-la mille_fw-la augustinis_fw-la hieronymis_fw-la gregorijs_fw-la say_v your_o cornelius_n mussus_n in_o his_o 1588._o commentary_n upon_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n if_o it_o be_v scornefullnesse_n in_o luther_n to_o prefer_v the_o word_n of_o god_n before_o thousand_o augustine_n do_v it_o not_o much_o more_o argue_v scornfulnesse_n in_o muss_n to_o prefer_v a_o usurp_a most_o vicious_a and_o unlettered_a pope_n before_o thousand_o augustine_n conc._n he_o be_v a_o great_a clerk_n in_o his_o time_n who_o deliver_v this_o as_o sound_v doctrine_n simplici_fw-la potius_fw-la rustice_n &_o infanti_fw-la &_o anicul●_n magis_fw-la quam_fw-la pontifici_fw-la maximo_fw-la &_o mille_fw-la episcopis_fw-la credendum_fw-la est_fw-la si_fw-la isti_fw-la contra_fw-la euangelium_fw-la illi_fw-la pro_fw-la euangelie_o faciant_fw-la we_o ought_v rather_o believe_v a_o plain_a country_n fellow_n or_o a_o child_n or_o a_o old_a wife_n than_o the_o pope_n and_o a_o thousand_o bishop_n if_o the_o pope_n and_o bishop_n speak_v against_o the_o gospel_n and_o the_o other_o agreeable_o to_o the_o gospel_n to_o prefer_v the_o word_n of_o god_n before_o bishop_n be_v not_o to_o scorn_v bishop_n pa._n well_o shall_v we_o then_o fall_v to_o the_o father_n and_o see_v what_o they_o say_v prot._n nay_o stay_v a_o little_a and_o tell_v i_o first_o what_o hope_v there_o be_v that_o either_o you_o shall_v persuade_v i_o or_o i_o persuade_v you_o by_o father_n see_v the_o one_o of_o we_o can_v persuade_v the_o other_o to_o be_v of_o his_o opinion_n by_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v 31_o write_v that_o they_o who_o hear_v not_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n will_v not_o be_v persuade_v though_o one_o rise_v from_o the_o dead_a again_o which_o make_v i_o fear_v that_o see_v moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n allege_v by_o i_o can_v persuade_v you_o nor_o the_o text_n which_o you_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o same_o can_v persuade_v i_o we_o shall_v lose_v both_o our_o labour_n in_o examine_v what_o the_o father_n have_v say_v about_o the_o difference_n between_o we_o for_o if_o man_n who_o hear_v not_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n will_v not_o be_v persuade_v by_o the_o dead_a miraculous_o raise_v i_o can_v think_v they_o will_v ever_o be_v persuade_v by_o the_o father_n pa._n say_v you_o so_o prot._n yea_o true_o and_o i_o be_o the_o more_o afraid_a we_o shall_v lose_v our_o labour_n in_o this_o kind_n because_o there_o be_v as_o great_a question_n between_o we_o about_o the_o father_n as_o about_o the_o scripture_n what_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o father_n be_v as_o what_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v on_o who_o side_n st._n austin_n and_o st._n ambrose_n stand_v as_o on_o who_o side_n st._n paul_n and_o st._n peter_n stand_v the_o father_n write_n be_v subject_a to_o mistake_n as_o well_o as_o the_o scripture_n arbitror_fw-la nonnulle_n in_o quibusdamlocis_fw-la libr●rum_fw-la meorum_fw-la opinaturos_fw-la i_o sensisse_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la sensi_fw-la aut_fw-la non_fw-la sensisse_fw-la quod_fw-la sensi_fw-la i_o suppose_v say_v sinem_fw-la st._n austin_n that_o many_o by_o reason_n of_o some_o passage_n in_o my_o book_n will_v conceive_v that_o my_o meaning_n be_v otherwise_o then_o it_o be_v or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o such_o as_o it_o be_v and_o it_o fall_v out_o according_o for_o as_o 17_o baronius_n witness_v after_o st._n augustine_n death_n there_o arise_v up_o diverse_a qui_fw-la ex_fw-la eius_fw-la scriptis_fw-la male_a perceptis_fw-la complures_fw-la invexerunt_fw-la errores_fw-la quos_fw-la s._n aug._n nomine_fw-la &_o authoritate_fw-la defendere_fw-la conabantur_fw-la who_o mistake_v his_o meaning_n broach_v many_o error_n in_o his_o name_n now_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o you_o think_v other_o father_n write_n be_v as_o subject_v to_o mistake_n as_o st._n augustine_n pa._n that_o i_o do_v yet_o prove_v this_o point_n i_o pray_v a_o little_a more_o full_o prot._n i_o will_v and_o that_o by_o example_n of_o ancient_a and_o late_a time_n in_o ancient_a time_n one_o father_n mistake_v the_o meaning_n of_o another_o at_o this_o time_n even_o one_o of_o you_o conceive_v different_o of_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o father_n from_o other_o of_o you_o some_o say_n this_o be_v the_o meaning_n other_o say_n not_o so_o but_o this_o be_v the_o meaning_n pa._n what_o ancient_a father_n mistake_v his_o fellow_n meaning_n prot._n st._n austin_n mistake_v st._n cyprian_n for_o st._n austin_n thought_n st._n cyprian_n have_v be_v of_o opinion_n that_o heretic_n be_v within_o the_o church_n which_o as_o your_o man_n say_v st._n cyprian_n do_v not_o pa._n indeed_o i_o think_v st._n austin_n mistake_v st._n cyprian_n foul_o for_o i_o read_v in_o 4._o bellarmine_n that_o cypriani_fw-la verba_fw-la nihil_fw-la tale_n sonant_fw-la s._n cyprian_n word_n found_v nothing_o that_o way_n and_o in_o a._n canus_n ego_fw-la ut_fw-la quemadmodum_fw-la sentio_fw-la loquar_fw-la non_fw-la intelligo_fw-la quid_fw-la caus●_n augustimo_fw-la fuerit_fw-la ut_fw-la verba_fw-la cypriani_fw-la in_o eum_fw-la sensum_fw-la acceperit_fw-la qui_fw-la mihi_fw-la sanè_fw-la tam_fw-la apparet_fw-la à_fw-la cypriani_fw-la ment_fw-la alienus_fw-la quam_fw-la coelum_fw-la a_o terrae_fw-la natura_fw-la altenum_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la aliquando_fw-la bone_fw-la dormitat_fw-la homerus_fw-la if_o i_o may_v speak_v my_o mind_n free_o i_o wonder_v why_o