Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
church_n	ancient_a	bishop_n	pope_n	3,697	5	6.0360	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A67807	A vindication of my Lord Bishop of Worcester's letter touching Mr. Baxter from the animadversions of D. E.	Yelverton, Henry, Sir, 1566-1629.	1662 (1662)	Wing Y30; ESTC R34109	13,719	17

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