Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
church_n	age_n	time_n	whole_a	2,683	5	4.6219	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A53984	A third letter to A person of quality being a vindication of the former, in answer to a late pamphlet intituled A discourse of the use of images, &c.	Pelling, Edward, d. 1718.	1687 (1687)	Wing P1105; ESTC R1303	22,843	37

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