Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
church_n	affirm_v	true_a	visible_a	3,594	5	8.2502	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A52055	Smectymnuus redivivus Being an answer to a book, entituled, An humble remonstrance. In which, the original of liturgy episcopacy is discussed, and quæries propounded concerning both. The parity of bishops and presbyters in scripture demonstrated. The occasion of the imparity in antiquity discovered. The disparity of the ancient and our moderne bishops manifested. The antiquity of ruling elders in the church vindicated. The prelaticall church bounded.	Smectymnuus.; Marshall, Stephen, 1594?-1655.; Calamy, Edmund, 1600-1666.; Young, Thomas, 1587-1655.; Newcomen, Matthew, 1610?-1669.; Spurstowe, William, 1605?-1666.	1654 (1654)	Wing M784; ESTC R223740	77,642	91

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etc._n etc._n sicut_fw-la ergo_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la sciant_fw-la se_fw-la ex_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la ei_fw-la qui_fw-la sibi_fw-la praepositus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la esse_fw-la subjectos_fw-la ita_fw-la episcopi_fw-la noverint_fw-la se_fw-la magis_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la quam_fw-la dispositionis_fw-la dominicae_fw-la veritate_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la esse_fw-la majores_fw-la &_o in_o communi_fw-la debere_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la regere_fw-la a_o presbyter_n and_o a_o bishop_n be_v the_o same_o and_o before_o there_o be_v through_o the_o devil_n instinct_n division_n in_o religion_n and_o the_o people_n begin_v to_o say_v i_o be_o of_o paul_n and_o i_o of_o apollo_n and_o i_o o●_n cephas_n the_o church_n be_v govern_v by_o the_o common-council_n of_o the_o presbyter_n but_o after_o that_o each_o man_n begin_v to_o account_v those_o who_o he_o have_v baptize_v his_o own_o and_o not_o christ_n it_o be_v decree_v through_o the_o whole_a world_n that_o one_o of_o the_o 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episcopos_fw-la esse_fw-la ut_fw-la tollantur_fw-la haereses_fw-la quae_fw-la manifestae_fw-la fiunt_fw-la second_o because_o as_o doctor_n whitaker_n say_v the_o remedy_n devise_v have_v prove_v worse_a than_o the_o disease_n which_o do_v never_o happen_v to_o that_o remedy_n whereof_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v the_o author_n three_o because_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o can_v foresee_v what_o will_v

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