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A41015 Roma ruens Romes ruine : being a svccinct answer to a popish challenge concerning the antiquity, unity, universality, succession, and perpetuall visibility of the true church even in the most obscure times, when it seemed to be totally eclipsed in the immediate ages before Luther / by Daniel Featley ... Featley, Daniel, 1582-1645. 1644 (1644) Wing F592; ESTC R4369 68,281 80

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