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A12768 Maschil vnmasked In a treatise defending this sentence of our Church: vidz. the present Romish Church hath not the nature of the true Church. Against the publick opposition of Mr. Cholmley, and Mr. Butterfield, two children revolted in opinion from their owne subscription, and the faith of their mother the Church of England. By Thomas Spencer. Spencer, Thomas, fl. 1628-1629. 1629 (1629) STC 23073; ESTC S117745 62,307 124

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shall_v cease_v to_o be_v one_o in_o these_o word_n this_o sentence_n be_v imply_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n may_v be_v right_a and_o true_a false_a and_o erroneous_a together_o viz._n in_o different_a article_n and_o he_o do_v express_o avouch_v the_o same_o in_o divers_a passage_n of_o his_o book_n viz._n the_o present_a church_n of_o rome_n be_v corrupt_v and_o deform_v yet_o have_v the_o true_a essence_n of_o a_o church_n pag._n 30._o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v a_o religion_n more_o after_o homer_n then_o after_o the_o scripture_n and_o yet_o hold_v fundamental_a truth_n pag._n 4._o in_o the_o pope_n arithmetic_n article_n of_o faith_n be_v add_v pag._n 39_o such_o affirmative_n of_o we_o as_o concern_v the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n be_v profess_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag_n 41._o and_o nothing_o be_v more_o frequent_a with_o he_o than_o word_n to_o this_o effect_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o be_v all_o those_o which_o lie_v in_o that_o religion_n make_v up_o one_o body_n or_o society_n be_v not_o babylon_n in_o the_o revelation_n but_o that_o babylon_n be_v a_o faction_n in_o that_o church_n pag._n 100_o the_o papacy_n be_v not_o the_o church_n but_o the_o disease_n of_o the_o church_n the_o papacy_n be_v in_o the_o church_n as_o a_o accident_n in_o the_o subject_n we_o must_v distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o church_n and_o the_o papacy_n pag._n 28_o 29._o we_o have_v learn_v to_o distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o church_n and_o the_o great_a whore_n in_o the_o church_n we_o have_v communion_n with_o the_o church_n we_o separate_v from_o babylon_n pag._n 101._o this_o we_o deny_v and_o will_v maintain_v the_o contradictory_n to_o wit_n the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o right_a and_o true_a false_a and_o erroneous_a together_o viz._n in_o different_a article_n but_o if_o some_o article_n of_o faith_n be_v false_a and_o erroneous_a than_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n it_o false_a and_o erroneous_a i_o will_v not_o now_o give_v reason_n of_o this_o denial_n but_o defer_v the_o same_o till_o we_o come_v to_o the_o 7._o chap._n where_o it_o shall_v be_v dispute_v so_o much_o as_o be_v requisite_a he_o bring_v proof_n for_o his_o opinion_n in_o the_o word_n which_o immediate_o follow_v in_o the_o aforesaid_a cap._n 3._o n._n 8._o i_o will_v first_o dispose_v they_o according_a to_o art_n and_o then_o frame_v my_o answer_n as_o shall_v be_v needful_a thus_o than_o he_o dispute_v if_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n can_v be_v true_a and_o erroneous_a together_o then_o where_o error_n in_o faith_n be_v there_o can_v be_v a_o true_a church_n but_o where_o error_n in_o faith_n be_v there_o may_v be_v a_o true_a church_n for_o first_o our_o church_n think_v so_o article_n 19_o according_a to_o mr._n rogers_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o place_n propo._n 8._o 2_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n do_v abide_v many_o day_n without_o a_o sacrifice_n and_o ephod_n etc._n etc._n hosea_n 3.4_o and_o without_o circumcision_n the_o space_n of_o 40._o year_n josh_n 5.6_o yet_o then_o be_v they_o the_o church_n of_o god_n 3_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n may_v be_v corrupt_v as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o blindness_n and_o superstition_n or_o intermit_v as_o in_o persecution_n i_o answer_v the_o consequence_n of_o the_o proposition_n we_o grant_v as_o very_o necessary_a but_o the_o assumption_n be_v false_a we_o say_v that_o error_n in_o faith_n and_o the_o church_n be_v incompatible_a and_o it_o be_v the_o argument_n of_o our_o church_n already_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o homily_n to_o all_o his_o proof_n joint_o i_o answer_v they_o be_v far_o to_o weak_a to_o uphold_v this_o weighty_a matter_n if_o this_o assumption_n be_v not_o true_a than_o his_o whole_a cause_n fall_v to_o the_o ground_n himself_o confess_v as_o we_o have_v hear_v that_o the_o present_a romish_a church_n be_v guilty_a of_o heresy_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v no_o true_a church_n unless_o error_n in_o faith_n may_v be_v 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of_o all_o his_o proof_n in_o particular_a and_o single_a out_o the_o one_o from_o the_o other_o the_o authority_n of_o our_o church_n prevail_v much_o with_o i_o so_o as_o that_o alone_o will_v silence_v my_o tongue_n and_o suspend_v my_o judgement_n but_o it_o will_v do_v little_a good_a to_o this_o opponent_n b._n for_o he_o that_o slight_v yea_o reject_v nay_o dispute_v against_o her_o doctrine_n in_o thing_n supreme_a must_v not_o crave_v she_o aid_v in_o thing_n belong_v to_o the_o mean_a and_o thus_o stand_v it_o with_o this_o opponent_n who_o maintain_v the_o chief_a question_n in_o this_o business_n against_o she_o and_o at_o this_o instant_n labour_v all_o he_o can_v to_o refel_v the_o proposition_n of_o her_o argument_n but_o how_o may_v it_o appear_v that_o our_o church_n make_v for_o he_o he_o bring_v nothing_o but_o the_o authority_n of_o mr._n rogers_n and_o that_o be_v no_o great_a than_o his_o own_o and_o consequent_o thus_o he_o say_v our_o church_n think_v so_o because_o i_o say_v she_o do_v think_v so_o but_o what_o if_o our_o church_n and_o this_o opponent_n say_v she_o think_v not_o so_o then_o i_o hope_v the_o matter_n thus_o far_o will_v be_v at_o a_o end_n from_o this_o opponent_n i_o argue_v thus_o he_o that_o say_v all_o god_n reveal_v truth_n universal_o essential_o and_o reciprical_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n free_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n from_o error_n but_o this_o opponent_n do_v so_o for_o thus_o he_o write_v pag_n 13._o the_o true_a church_n be_v a_o company_n of_o man_n profess_v god_n reveal_v truth_n now_o in_o this_o sentence_n he_o make_v all_o god_n reveal_v truth_n to_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n universal_o essential_o and_o reciprical_o because_o 1._o the_o word_n themselves_o in_o the_o common_a use_n of_o man_n do_v lie_v so_o 2._o according_a to_o aristotle_n poster_n lib._n 1._o cap_n 44_o &_o 33._o lib._n 2._o cap._n 3._o top._n lib._n 6._o cap_n 1._o thom._n 2._o do_v 27._o q._n 1._o art_n 2._o ad_fw-la 9m._o aliaco_n quest_n de_fw-fr resumpt_n lit_fw-fr q_o richardus_fw-la de_fw-fr trin._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 21._o fol._n 108._o every_o exact_a or_o perfect_a definition_n do_v so_o but_o this_o author_n sentence_n allege_v be_v a_o exact_a definition_n pag._n 13._o therefore_o this_o opponent_n free_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n from_o error_n and_o consequent_o according_a to_o he_o our_o church_n do_v so_o too_o for_o she_o have_v define_v the_o church_n art_n 19_o just_a as_o he_o have_v do_v in_o the_o sentence_n we_o allege_v if_o art_n 19_o subiect_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n unto_o error_n than_o we_o must_v read_v it_o thus_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v a_o congregation_n in_o which_o some_o part_n of_o the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n be_v preach_v and_o the_o sacrament_n in_o some_o thing_n be_v only_o administer_v but_o art_n 19_o must_v not_o be_v so_o read_v lest_o the_o word_n of_o the_o article_n themselves_n be_v pervert_v and_o some_o man_n say_v the_o avoid_n of_o diversity_n of_o opinion_n and_o establish_v of_o consent_n touch_v true_a religion_n be_v not_o thereby_o intend_v contrary_a unto_o the_o protestation_n of_o our_o church_n in_o the_o title_n to_o all_o the_o article_n in_o general_n therefore_o art_n 19_o subiect_v not_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n unto_o error_n his_o second_o proof_n lie_v thus_o the_o israelite_n want_v sacrifice_n and_o circumcision_n therefore_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n be_v subject_a to_o error_n i_o answer_v this_o gear_n hang_v not_o together_o so_o well_o as_o harp_n and_o harrow_n for_o they_o sound_v alike_o in_o something_o because_o both_o of_o they_o begin_v with_o a_o letter_n but_o here_o be_v nothing_o like_a the_o lewes_z church_n be_v a_o infant_n and_o not_o establish_v
only_o it_o be_v meet_v that_o we_o observe_v in_o his_o epistle_n dedicatory_a that_o he_o make_v the_o point_n now_o in_o hand_n one_o of_o those_o whereat_o he_o tremble_v when_o he_o do_v but_o hear_v it_o if_o there_o be_v any_o cause_n why_o it_o will_v show_v itself_o by_o his_o argument_n and_o answer_n for_o it_o if_o he_o be_v naked_a in_o they_o we_o may_v conclude_v that_o he_o fear_v without_o a_o cause_n and_o run_v when_o none_o pursue_v enough_o have_v be_v say_v already_o to_o drive_v this_o conclusion_n to_o the_o head_n we_o have_v prove_v that_o the_o romish_a faith_n be_v erroneous_a by_o argument_n that_o be_v not_o nor_o can_v be_v refell_v and_o who_o will_v require_v more_o to_o argue_v her_o faith_n to_o be_v unable_a and_o altogether_o unfit_a to_o lead_v a_o man_n to_o heaven_n can_v a_o erroneous_a faith_n show_v a_o man_n the_o way_n to_o heaven_n sure_o it_o can_v not_o because_o it_o sit_v beside_o the_o divine_a revelation_n which_o be_v the_o only_a record_n wherein_o the_o way_n to_o life_n be_v referve_v for_o us._n i_o say_v heaven_n and_o eternal_a happiness_n be_v only_o to_o be_v find_v in_o god_n revelation_n and_o who_o will_v not_o believe_v i_o for_o where_o the_o end_n be_v above_o nature_n the_o mean_n thereto_o must_v needs_o be_v so_o also_o what_o need_v i_o then_o to_o trouble_v myself_o and_o the_o reader_n with_o more_o argument_n but_o see_v it_o will_v not_o save_v our_o labour_n some_o be_v so_o contentious_a and_o will_v not_o rest_v in_o truth_n apparent_a therefore_o such_o must_v be_v meet_v withal_o and_o their_o endeavour_n prevent_v as_o the_o frugal_a man_n weed_n his_o field_n that_o his_o grain_n may_v be_v the_o better_a unto_o sight_n and_o service_n chap._n 9_o our_o opponent_n b._n his_o first_o argument_n we_o be_v now_o come_v to_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o discourse_n wherein_o the_o argument_n for_o the_o contrary_a party_n be_v propound_v and_o refute_v and_o i_o will_v begin_v 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same_o term_n or_o condition_n with_o the_o present_a romish_a church_n for_o they_o always_o retain_v the_o true_a and_o undoubted_a foundation_n of_o faith_n they_o rely_v only_o upon_o god_n authority_n the_o revealer_n of_o sacred_a thing_n so_o as_o what_o ever_o they_o believe_v they_o so_o believe_v because_o god_n reveal_v it_o they_o thrust_v not_o in_o the_o authority_n of_o man_n between_o the_o sacred_a revelation_n and_o their_o faith_n and_o credence_n so_o as_o still_o they_o enjoy_v at_o least_o the_o mean_n for_o get_v of_o divine_a faith_n and_o consequent_o salvation_n itself_o but_o so_o it_o be_v not_o with_o the_o romish_a church_n as_o manifest_o appear_v in_o former_a passage_n cap._n 4._o num_fw-la 7._o etc._n etc._n whereupon_o we_o may_v conclude_v though_o the_o jewish_a church_n be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n yet_o that_o will_v not_o infer_v the_o romish_a church_n to_o be_v so_o also_o moreover_o the_o jew_n defection_n be_v in_o matter_n of_o practice_n rather_o than_o of_o precept_n when_o they_o fail_v in_o doctrine_n it_o be_v peculiar_a to_o some_o not_o universal_a and_o common_a to_o all_o that_o church_n their_o error_n be_v matter_n of_o opinion_n not_o of_o faith_n for_o no_o public_a authority_n of_o they_o do_v command_v that_o opinion_n or_o misbelief_n to_o be_v universal_o receive_v as_o be_v divine_o reveal_v but_o with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n the_o matter_n be_v altogether_o otherwise_o their_o error_n be_v first_o in_o precept_n and_o then_o in_o practice_n this_o error_n be_v common_a to_o all_o in_o that_o church_n no_o man_n can_v be_v exempt_v therefrom_o unless_o he_o will_v profess_v himself_o to_o be_v none_o of_o they_o again_o that_o error_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n be_v adjudge_v to_o be_v reveal_v by_o god_n and_o command_v to_o be_v receive_v by_o all_o the_o member_n of_o that_o church_n by_o a_o authority_n that_o pretend_v freedom_n from_o err_a and_o power_n of_o enjoy_v so_o as_o whatsoever_o be_v so_o command_v must_v be_v obey_v without_o delay_n or_o inquire_v as_o be_v show_v cap._n 4._o num_fw-la 7._o etc._n etc._n wherefore_o we_o need_v not_o doubt_v to_o say_v the_o one_o lose_v not_o the_o truth_n of_o a_o church_n the_o other_o have_v not_o the_o truth_n of_o a_o church_n we_o may_v allow_v god_n a_o share_n in_o some_o that_o dwell_v in_o babylon_n but_o what_o be_v that_o share_n even_o person_n elect_v but_o not_o yet_o call_v and_o unto_o such_o god_n command_v that_o they_o come_v out_o of_o babylon_n and_o they_o shall_v hear_v and_o obey_v in_o their_o appoint_a time_n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o we_o elect_v person_n not_o call_v be_v such_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o be_v unknown_a to_o we_o and_o therefore_o be_v reckon_v to_o appertain_v to_o the_o church_n invisible_a but_o