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you_o set_v not_o up_o whole_o for_o yourselves_o that_o speak_v so_o 3._o and_o they_o will_v worship_v god_n with_o the_o sect_n of_o the_o diocesan_n prelatist_n in_o the_o parish-church_n also_o as_o far_o as_o will_v stand_v with_o the_o due_a exercise_n of_o their_o proper_a ministry_n but_o will_v not_o promise_v you_o to_o give_v over_o preach_v to_o become_v your_o constant_a auditor_n or_o disciple_n sect._n 6._o you_o understand_v neither_o the_o man_n that_o you_o talk_v of_o nor_o their_o cause_n they_o take_v not_o the_o independent_o assembly_n to_o be_v the_o tent_n of_o enemy_n they_o leave_v term_n of_o enmity_n among_o brethren_n to_o those_o that_o have_v enmity_n in_o their_o heart_n nor_o do_v they_o tame_o deliver_v up_o the_o cause_n the_o most_o nonconformable_a minister_n of_o my_o acquaintance_n who_o judgement_n i_o ever_o ask_v of_o that_o matter_n do_v seem_v to_o think_v as_o i_o myself_o do_v that_o the_o episcopal_a pretbyterians_n independent_o and_o erastians_n have_v each_o of_o they_o some_o truth_n and_o good_a which_o above_o the_o rest_n they_o do_v defend_v and_o each_o of_o they_o some_o special_a mistake_n where_o they_o err_v above_o the_o rest_n and_o if_o we_o can_v know_v it_o we_o will_v take_v the_o best_a from_o among_o they_o all_o and_o leave_v the_o worst_a and_o not_o maintain_v church-quarrel_n under_o pretence_n that_o we_o must_v not_o fly_v to_o the_o enemy_n and_o give_v up_o the_o cause_n sect._n 7._o o_o the_o confidence_n of_o this_o adviser_n in_o his_o own_o understanding_n that_o dare_v say_v that_o he_o be_v sure_a that_o the_o presbyterian_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o engage_v in_o a_o way_n of_o public_a worship_n contradistinct_a to_o our_o parochial_a congregation_n 1._o that_o be_v contradistinct_a which_o be_v not_o opposite_a or_o adverse_a but_o either_o coordinate_a as_o one_o parish_n to_o another_o or_o subordinate_a as_o a_o chapel_n 2._o and_o what_o man_n be_v a_o vow_n and_o dedication_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n no_o reason_n to_o preach_v it_o elsewhere_o when_o its_o forbid_a we_o in_o your_o assembly_n be_v the_o alienation_n of_o consecrate_a person_n no_o sacrilege_n be_v the_o notorious_a need_n of_o many_o hundred_o thousand_o soul_n no_o reason_n be_v the_o exercise_v of_o a_o worship_n and_o discipline_n more_o agreeable_a to_o god_n word_n than_o you_o we_o be_v ready_a to_o give_v you_o the_o proof_n when_o we_o have_v leave_v no_o reason_n be_v the_o relieve_n of_o many_o godly_a christian_n who_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o your_o communion_n because_o they_o dare_v not_o conform_v no_o reason_n have_v we_o have_v leave_v to_o have_v cont_v the_o silly_a reason_n of_o mr._n fulwood_n and_o some_o such_o other_o pamphleteer_n produce_v against_o the_o nonconformist_n we_o have_v long_o ago_o show_v you_o cause_n to_o repress_v such_o self_n esteem_n which_o dare_v say_v i_o be_o sure_a they_o bave_v no_o reason_n sect._n 8._o and_o this_o man_n that_o be_v sure_a they_o have_v no_o reason_n for_o it_o can_v instance_n in_o no_o great_a than_o the_o objection_n that_o it_o will_v seem_v a_o undervalue_a their_o liberty_n and_o ingratitude_n to_o the_o king_n 1._o we_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o be_v ungrateful_a to_o the_o king_n nor_o to_o undervalue_v our_o liberty_n 2._o but_o do_v that_o move_v the_o london_n minister_n and_o other_o to_o preach_v all_o this_o while_n before_o the_o declaration_n 3._o when_o you_o have_v prove_v that_o great_a hurt_v than_o good_a will_v follow_v our_o preach_a and_o ministry_n and_o when_o you_o have_v prove_v that_o though_o all_o the_o papist_n in_o england_n do_v use_v the_o liberty_n of_o the_o toleration_n in_o the_o declaration_n yet_o the_o nonconformist_n must_v not_o but_o silent_o leave_v our_o sufficient_a conformist_n to_o do_v all_o the_o work_n against_o ignorance_n infidelity_n popery_n and_o sensuality_n themselves_o i_o say_v when_o you_o have_v prove_v this_o well_o you_o may_v again_o bless_v the_o people_n with_o our_o silence_n and_o persuade_v we_o to_o silence_n ourselves_o when_o you_o can_v do_v it_o otherwise_o sect._n 9_o but_o he_o say_v p._n 6._o their_o ingenuity_n and_o gratitude_n to_o god_n and_o the_o king_n will_v be_v better_o express_v by_o their_o conformity_n and_o loyal_a obedience_n to_o the_o know_a law_n than_o by_o the_o use_n of_o the_o liberty_n permit_v to_o the_o contrary_n answ_n he_o know_v that_o we_o must_v not_o give_v he_o our_o reason_n against_o conformity_n he_o can_v but_o know_v that_o many_o that_o conform_v nor_o in_o all_o the_o matter_n of_o subscription_n declaration_n oath_n discipline_n etc._n etc._n not_o meddle_v with_o other_o man_n conscience_n do_v think_v it_o will_v be_v in_o they_o a_o composition_n of_o such_o heinous_a crime_n as_o they_o do_v forbear_v to_o name_v they_o for_o fear_n of_o seem_v to_o be_v accuser_n of_o other_o and_o to_o be_v unpeaceable_a and_o if_o he_o think_v that_o such_o 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doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n till_o the_o new_a doctrine_n about_o infant_n be_v bring_v into_o the_o new_a rubric_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o in_o minutioribus_fw-la that_o we_o differ_v from_o the_o conformist_n gather_v from_o it_o what_o you_o can_v god_n know_v we_o think_v the_o matter_n in_o difference_n very_o far_o from_o thing_n indifferent_a chap._n v._n whether_o the_o declaration_n make_v the_o nonconformist_n preach_n more_o lawful_a or_o their_o duty_n than_o it_o be_v before_o sect._n 1_o his_o sect._n 2._o pro._n 2._o be_v impertinent_a for_o 1._o he_o know_v little_a if_o he_o know_v not_o that_o the_o nonconformist_n do_v before_o take_v such_o preach_n and_o meeting_n to_o be_v lawful_a and_o a_o duty_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o law_n of_o god_n where_o they_o have_v opportunity_n to_o use_v they_o 2._o but_o they_o take_v it_o for_o a_o double_a sin_n to_o neglect_v a_o duty_n when_o they_o have_v liberty_n grant_v they_o by_o the_o king_n to_o perform_v it_o but_o he_o know_v we_o take_v god_n for_o our_o absolute_a sovereign_n and_o think_v that_o none_o can_v repeal_v his_o law_n because_o that_o none_o have_v any_o power_n but_o from_o he_o and_o we_o suppose_v that_o he_o will_v pass_v the_o final_a sentence_n on_o king_n and_o we_o to_o what_o purpose_n be_v it_o then_o among_o christian_n to_o question_n whether_o man_n make_v it_o lawful_a for_o christ_n consecrate_a minister_n to_o preach_v when_o god_n command_v it_o sect._n 2._o but_o pag._n 14._o he_o think_v he_o may_v safe_o say_v that_o the_o declaration_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o uncommand_n and_o uninjoyn_v any_o thing_n which_o the_o law_n proper_o command_v or_o enjoin_v answ_n say_v you_o so_o 1._o the_o law_n command_v magistrate_n to_o execute_v the_o penal_a law_n the_o king_n forbid_v they_o be_v not_o that_o to_o uncommand_fw-fr they_o 2._o the_o law_n command_v we_o not_o to_o meet_v above_o four_o in_o a_o private_a house_n for_o worship_n otherwise_o than_o etc._n etc._n the_o king_n suspend_v or_o dispense_v with_o this_o command_n and_o not_o only_o with_o the_o penalty_n and_o be_v not_o a_o suspension_n of_o a_o precept_n a_o uncommand_a though_o not_o a_o command_a of_o the_o contrary_a i_o will_v not_o instance_n in_o jury_n indict_v papist_n etc._n etc._n sect._n 3_o but_o he_o subtle_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o declaration_n meddle_v neither_o with_o the_o preceptive_a nor_o punitive_a part_n of_o the_o law_n but_o only_o with_o the_o execution_n which_o be_v extrinsic_a to_o both_o all_o lawyer_n must_v come_v learn_v anew_o of_o he_o what_o it_o be_v to_o dispense_v with_o a_o law_n as_o if_o the_o command_n you_o shall_v examine_v and_o punish_v such_o &_o such_o man_n and_o the_o prohibition_n you_o shall_v not_o punish_v they_o but_o protect_v they_o be_v not_o contrary_a nor_o the_o prohibition_n you_o shall_v not_o meet_v above_o four_o etc._n etc._n and_o the_o dispensation_n you_o may_v meet_v etc._n etc._n sect._n 4._o but_o all_o this_o be_v utter_o impertinent_a to_o they_o who_o conscience_n never_o allow_v they_o to_o forbear_v their_o ministry_n in_o formal_a obedience_n to_o any_o man_n prohibition_n but_o only_o when_o they_o have_v not_o power_n or_o opportunity_n to_o exercise_v it_o be_v no_o duty_n which_o can_v be_v do_v and_o licence_n make_v that_o possible_a which_o be_v impossible_a he_o that_o unti_v my_o foot_n accidental_o make_v it_o my_o duty_n to_o go_v sect._n 5._o pag._n 16._o let_v mr._n crofton_n answer_v for_o himself_o but_o the_o other_o two_o name_v by_o you_o ball_n and_o baxter_n have_v much_o against_o you_o but_o nothing_o for_o you_o and_o understand_v themselves_o better_a than_o you_o understand_v they_o and_o he_o that_o survive_v take_v himself_o to_o be_v abuse_v by_o your_o allegation_n and_o provoke_v you_o to_o cite_v any_o of_o his_o word_n which_o be_v against_o nonconformist_n preach_v as_o they_o have_v opportunity_n if_o you_o have_v 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