Selected quad for the lemma: church_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
church_n	administer_v	baptism_n	true_a	3,320	5	5.9973	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A79488	A Christian plea for Christians baptisme: raised from the grave of apostasie. or, a short treatise, being a reproof of some things written by A. R. in his treatise, intituled, The vanitie of childish baptisme. In the answer whereof, the lawfulnesse of infants baptisme is defended, the sufficiency of our baptisme received in the state of apostasie, shewed: and the deficiencie of the arguments brought against it manifested, by sufficient grounds and reasons drawn from the sweet fountains of holy Scripture. / [by] S.C.	Chidley, Samuel.	1643 (1643)	Wing C3836; Thomason E104_2; ESTC R12174	34,699	39

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