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A74992 An ansvver to Mr. J.G. his XL. queries, touching the lawfulness, or unlawfulness of holding church-communion, between such who have been baptized after their beleeving, and others who have not otherwise been baptized, then in their infancie. As likewise touching infant, and after baptism. In which answer, the undueness of such mixt communion is declared, the unlawfulness of infant-baptism, and the necessity of after baptism is asserted. By W.A. Allen, William, d. 1686. 1653 (1653) Wing A1054A; Thomason E713_17; ESTC R207237 74,298 97

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principal_a ground_n of_o the_o holy_a brotherhood_n among_o the_o saint_n as_o he_o call_v it_o we_o willing_o grant_v and_o therefore_o can_v have_v spare_v he_o the_o labour_n of_o prove_v that_o faith_n have_v the_o precedency_n herein_o but_o what_o will_v it_o therefore_o follow_v that_o because_o believe_v be_v the_o original_n and_o principal_a ground_n of_o the_o holy_a brotherhood_n or_o church-relation_n that_o therefore_o baptism_n be_v none_o at_o all_o do_v he_o not_o know_v that_o though_o the_o apostle_n give_v repentance_n from_o dead_a work_n and_o faith_n towards_o god_n the_o first_o place_n in_o the_o foundation_n yet_o he_o assign_v baptism_n its_o place_n and_o stand_v next_o to_o they_o in_o the_o same_o foundation_n heb._n 6.1.2_o querist_n 2._o that_o it_o can_v be_v demonstrative_o prove_v from_o the_o scripture_n that_o those_o hundred_o and_o twenty_o disciple_n act_n 1.15_o unto_o which_o it_o be_v here_o say_v that_o 3000._o be_v add_v be_v or_o have_v be_v all_o of_o they_o baptize_v nor_o can_v it_o any_o whit_n more_o be_v prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o mention_v act_n 1.13_o have_v be_v baptize_v then_o that_o john_n the_o baptist_n be_v baptize_v respon_n 1_o suppose_v the_o scripture_n no_o where_o mention_n where_o when_o or_o by_o who_o those_o 120._o disciple_n be_v baptize_v be_v this_o any_o good_a reason_n to_o conclude_v therefore_o that_o they_o be_v not_o baptize_v at_o all_o or_o will_v the_o querist_n think_v that_o becaase_v we_o do_v not_o a●_n to_o the_o best_a of_o my_o memory_n we_o do_v not_o read_v in_o scripture_n of_o the_o baptise_v of_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n pergamos_n thyatira_n sardis_n philadelphia_n and_o laodicea_n that_o therefore_o none_o of_o these_o church_n be_v baptize_v or_o because_o we_o read_v only_o of_o the_o baptism_n of_o 3000._o of_o the_o church_n at_o jerusalem_n that_o therefore_o all_o the_o rest_n when_o that_o church_n increase_v to_o the_o number_n of_o 5000._o act_n 4.4_o yea_o to_o many_o thousand_o act_n 21.20_o be_v unbaptise_v be_v it_o not_o enough_o that_o the_o commission_n be_v to_o baptize_v all_o of_o all_o nation_n who_o be_v first_o make_v disciple_n by_o teach_v mat._n 28.19_o and_o that_o we_o have_v frequent_a mention_n in_o the_o scripture_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o other_o disciple_n their_o walk_n and_o act_v according_a to_o this_o commission_n i_o say_v be_v not_o this_o enough_o to_o cause_v we_o to_o conclude_v that_o all_o those_o that_o be_v disciple_n indeed_o and_o know_v it_o to_o be_v their_o duty_n to_o be_v baptize_v be_v baptize_v according_o unless_o we_o will_v be_v so_o uncharitable_a towards_o they_o as_o to_o conceive_v they_o guilty_a of_o live_v in_o the_o breach_n of_o one_o of_o the_o know_a precept_n of_o the_o gospel_n neither_o can_v we_o reasonable_o imagine_v any_o of_o they_o to_o be_v ignorant_a of_o this_o viz._n that_o submit_v to_o baptism_n be_v their_o duty_n inasmuch_o as_o this_o be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o thing_n they_o be_v direct_v to_o do_v in_o order_n to_o their_o become_a christian_n act_n 2.38_o &_o 8.12_o &_o 16.33_o &_o 22.16_o 2._o it_o shall_v seem_v that_o these_o 120._o disciple_n have_v continue_v with_o christ_n and_o keep_v company_n with_o the_o apostle_n all_o the_o time_n that_o jesus_n go_v in_o and_o out_o among_o they_o begin_v from_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n unto_o that_o same_o day_n in_o which_o he_o be_v take_v up_o from_o among_o they_o as_o we_o have_v it_o act_n 1.21.22_o and_o if_o so_o be_v not_o their_o be_v baptize_v sufficient_o signify_v where_o it_o be_v say_v of_o christ_n that_o he_o baptize_v and_o all_o man_n come_v to_o he_o john_n 3.26.22_o unless_o we_o will_v suppose_v that_o he_o cause_v other_o to_o be_v baptize_v that_o do_v not_o follow_v he_o and_o do_v excuse_v those_o that_o do_v 3._o as_o for_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o who_o be_v mention_v act_n 1.13_o to_o suppose_v they_o not_o to_o be_v baptize_v be_v to_o suppose_v they_o to_o be_v pharisee-like_a who_o as_o our_o saviour_n say_v do_v bind_v heavy_a burden_n and_o grievous_a to_o be_v bear_v and_o lay_v they_o on_o man_n shoulder_n when_o they_o themselves_o will_v not_o touch_v they_o with_o one_o of_o their_o finger_n for_o we_o see_v they_o impose_v baptism_n as_o a_o duty_n upon_o other_o man_n act_n 2.38_o and_o therefore_o how_o can_v we_o think_v so_o evil_a of_o they_o as_o not_o to_o conceive_v that_o they_o have_v begin_v to_o they_o in_o the_o same_o way_n themselves_o or_o if_o they_o have_v not_o may_v not_o that_o multitude_n at_o jerusalem_n upon_o who_o they_o urge_v it_o as_o their_o duty_n have_v say_v unto_o they_o physician_n heal_v yourselves_o or_o be_v it_o any_o less_o the_o duty_n of_o such_o man_n who_o become_v apostle_n then_o of_o other_o man_n since_o we_o find_v paul_n that_o great_a apostle_n press_v to_o it_o by_o direction_n from_o christ_n jesus_n before_o he_o be_v to_o act_v as_o 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