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church_n	act_n	bishop_n	presbyter_n	3,131	5	10.0517	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A29237	The XXIV cases concerning things indifferent in religious worship considered, or, The resolver better resolved by his own principles, and non-conformists more confirmed also, the grand case touching ministers conformity, with the double supplement thereunto annexed, briefly discussed.	Bagshaw, Edward, 1629-1671.; Bagshaw, Edward, 1629-1671. Great question concerning things indifferent in religious worship briefly stated.	1663 (1663)	Wing B427; ESTC R12512	53,178	68

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the_o less_o to_o the_o great_a but_o can_v any_o external_a necessity_n be_v great_a than_o that_o of_o obedience_n unto_o god_n command_n by_o a_o moral_a or_o natural_a law_n his_o application_n therefore_o of_o that_o rule_n of_o indulgence_n proceed_v upon_o his_o too_o common_a supposition_n be_v mercy_n to_o our_o beast_n so_o high_o prize_v how_o much_o more_o be_v mercy_n to_o ourselves_o to_o our_o nation_n to_o the_o church_n to_o the_o soul_n of_o our_o people_n etc._n etc._n this_o inference_n be_v good_a be_v the_o thing_n in_o question_n prove_v to_o be_v only_o inconvenient_a penal_o in_o worship_n but_o if_o any_o of_o they_o be_v prove_v unlawful_a and_o sinful_a i_o shall_v argue_v to_o the_o contrary_a be_v mercy_n to_o our_o beast_n so_o high_o prize_v how_o much_o more_o mercy_n to_o our_o own_o soul_n yea_o mercy_n to_o our_o nation_n church_n people_n in_o avoid_v sin_n against_o god_n who_o by_o sin_v we_o provoke_v against_o all_o these_o this_o be_v the_o way_n to_o destroy_v both_o altar_n sacrifice_n and_o priest_n also_o for_o minister_n to_o comply_v together_o to_o offend_v god_n mercy_n do_v well_o with_o piety_n but_o without_o it_o be_v mere_a cruelty_n but_o much_o stress_n be_v lay_v upon_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o their_o condescend_v to_o conform_v in_o some_o thing_n to_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n and_o in_o that_o decree_n act_v 15._o to_o make_v some_o thing_n necessary_a after_o they_o be_v abolish_v by_o christ_n his_o death_n this_o be_v allege_v in_o the_o former_a case_n and_o here_o again_o for_o paul_n circumcise_n timothy_n and_o his_o own_o observation_n of_o some_o jewish_a rite_n when_o he_o have_v preach_v against_o they_o and_o that_o decree_n make_v some_o ceremonial_n not_o only_o lawful_a and_o expedient_a but_o necessary_a many_o thing_n may_v be_v say_v 1._o though_o those_o ceremony_n be_v dead_a with_o christ_n yet_o at_o that_o time_n they_o be_v not_o deadly_a till_o they_o be_v 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they_o to_o do_v so_o let_v the_o reader_n observe_v here_o his_o old_a diversion_n to_o say_v no_o worse_o in_o substitute_v the_o word_n inconvenient_a for_o inexpedient_a a_o penal_a for_o a_o sinful_a evil_n and_o confound_v the_o term_n for_o true_a it_o be_v those_o ceremonial_a observation_n dead_a before_o this_o time_n be_v a_o burden_n if_o impose_v on_o christian_n at_o that_o time_n but_o not_o sinful_a but_o the_o cause_v or_o occasion_v of_o the_o apostasy_n of_o the_o convert_v jew_n or_o the_o interruption_n of_o their_o conversion_n by_o the_o non-observation_n of_o they_o for_o a_o time_n be_v not_o only_a inconvenience_n though_o such_o also_o but_o sinful_a inexpediency_n and_o therefore_o enjoin_v for_o a_o time_n to_o prevent_v very_o great_a sin_n but_o i_o pray_v be_v the_o imposition_n of_o our_o ceremony_n and_o the_o submission_n to_o they_o for_o any_o such_o end_n hear_v himself_o speak_v the_o end_n move_v thereunto_o be_v most_o weighty_a viz._n the_o 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