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the_o wisdom_n of_o thy_o god_n that_o be_v in_o thy_o hand_n set_v judge_n and_o arbiter_n which_o may_v judge_v all_o the_o people_n that_o be_v beyond_o the_o river_n even_o all_o that_o know_v the_o law_n of_o thy_o god_n and_o teach_v you_o they_o that_o know_v it_o not_o and_o whosoever_o will_v not_o do_v the_o law_n of_o thy_o god_n and_o the_o king_n law_n let_v he_o have_v judgement_n without_o delay_n whether_o it_o be_v unto_o death_n or_o to_o banishment_n or_o to_o confiscation_n of_o good_n or_o to_o imprisonment_n esra_n 7._o verse_n 25_o 26._o and_o lest_o any_o shall_v take_v exception_n against_o artaxerxes_n commandment_n ezra_n clear_v it_o of_o all_o suspicion_n of_o unlawfulnesse_n in_o these_o word_n bless_a be_v the_o lord_n god_n of_o our_o father_n which_o have_v incline_v the_o king_n heart_n to_o beautify_v the_o house_n of_o the_o lord_n that_o be_v in_o jerusalem_n ezra_n 7._o verse_n 27._o augustine_n the_o bishop_n of_o hippo_n in_o africa_n be_v a_o very_a famous_a man_n he_o be_v sometime_o of_o opinion_n that_o heretic_n be_v to_o be_v press_v by_o argument_n and_o not_o by_o the_o magistrate_n his_o reason_n then_o be_v ne_o fictos_fw-la catholicos_fw-la haberemus_fw-la quos_fw-la apertos_fw-la hereticos_fw-la noveramus_fw-la that_o be_v lest_o we_o shall_v have_v they_o counterfeit_a catholic_n who_o we_o know_v to_o be_v notorious_a heretic_n but_o after_o weighty_a consideration_n he_o change_v his_o former_a opinion_n and_o be_v very_o resolute_a that_o recusant_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v compel_v by_o the_o magistrate_n august_n epist._n 48._o 204._o siterrerentur_fw-la &_o non_fw-la docerentur_fw-la improba_fw-la quasi_fw-la dominatio_fw-la videretur_fw-la sed_fw-la rursus_fw-la si_fw-la docerentur_fw-la &_o non_fw-la terrerentur_fw-la etc._n etc._n august_n epist._n 48._o that_o be_v to_o punish_v and_o not_o to_o teach_v be_v tyranny_n again_o to_o teach_v and_o not_o to_o punish_v be_v to_o harden_v they_o in_o their_o ancient_a custom_n and_o to_o make_v they_o slow_a to_o enter_v the_o path_n of_o salvation_n exi_n in_o vias_fw-la &_o sepe_v &_o compelle_fw-fr intrare_fw-la luke_n 14._o qui_fw-la compellitur_fw-la quò_fw-la non_fw-la vult_fw-la cogitur_fw-la sed_fw-la quùm_fw-la intraverit_fw-la iam_fw-la volens_fw-la pascitur_fw-la august_n epist_n 204._o that_o be_v go_v out_o into_o the_o high_a way_n and_o hedge_n and_o compel_v they_o to_o come_v in_o he_o that_o be_v compel_v be_v compel_v to_o enter_v against_o his_o will_n but_o when_o he_o be_v enter_v he_o be_v feed_v willing_o ad_fw-la caenam_fw-la tanti_fw-la patrisfamilias_fw-la si_fw-la sponte_fw-la non_fw-la vultis_fw-la intrare_fw-la compellimus_fw-la august_n contra_fw-la 2._o gaudentij_fw-la epist_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 28._o that_o be_v to_o the_o supper_n of_o so_o great_a a_o householder_n if_o you_o will_v not_o of_o your_o own_o accord_n we_o compel_v you_o to_o enter_v quod_fw-la autem_fw-la vobis_fw-la videtur_fw-la invitos_fw-la ad_fw-la veritatem_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la cogendos_fw-la etc._n etc._n august_n contra_fw-la 2._o gaudentij_fw-la epist_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 17._o that_o be_v where_o as_o you_o think_v that_o man_n be_v not_o to_o be_v compel_v to_o the_o truth_n against_o their_o will_n you_o err_v not_o know_v the_o scripture_n nor_o the_o power_n of_o god_n which_o make_v those_o willing_a though_o they_o be_v compel_v against_o their_o will_n qui_fw-la phreneticum_fw-la ligat_fw-la &_o lethargicum_fw-la excitat_fw-la ambobus_fw-la molestus_fw-la ambos_fw-la amat_fw-la aug._n epist_n 48._o that_o be_v he_o that_o bind_v a_o frantic_a man_n and_o awake_v he_o that_o have_v the_o lethargy_n love_v both_o though_o he_o be_v grievous_a to_o both_o 2._o a_o godly_a prince_n may_v not_o suffer_v any_o religion_n but_o the_o true_a religion_n either_o public_o or_o private_o in_o his_o dominion_n the_o exercise_n of_o false_a religion_n be_v direct_o against_o the_o sanctification_n of_o 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let_v he_o confute_v it_o etc._n etc._n 2_o jeroboam_fw-la do_v set_v up_o calf_n at_o bethel_n and_o dan._n in_o his_o time_n the_o service_n of_o god_n be_v strange_o corrupt_v yet_o certain_a prerogative_n belong_v to_o the_o church_n remain_v then_o among_o the_o jew_n circumcision_n which_o be_v the_o lord_n sacrament_n can_v not_o be_v so_o defile_v by_o the_o unclean_a hand_n of_o the_o jew_n but_o that_o it_o be_v always_o a_o sign_n and_o sacrament_n of_o god_n covenant_n therefore_o god_n call_v the_o infant_n of_o that_o people_n his_o child_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o popish_a church_n god_n have_v preserve_v baptism_n etc._n etc._n beside_o there_o remain_v among_o they_o other_o remnant_n vidz_n the_o lord_n prayer_n the_o article_n of_o the_o faith_n the_o commandment_n etc._n etc._n lest_o the_o church_n shall_v utter_o perish_v etc._n etc._n last_o almighty_a god_n have_v miraculous_o preserve_v among_o they_o the_o remnant_n of_o his_o people_n though_o poor_o and_o 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