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&_o alienigenis_fw-la consepultos_fw-la permisisset_fw-la that_o he_o have_v suffer_v his_o child_n to_o be_v depositate_v in_o profane_a sepulchre_n and_o to_o be_v bury_v with_o such_o as_o be_v externe_n &_o not_o of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o communion_n this_o be_v the_o care_n at_o that_o time_n but_o much_o more_o afterward_o do_v the_o church_n by_o special_a provision_n of_o ecclesiastical_a canon_n ordain_v that_o infidel_n heretic_n schismatic_n and_o excommunicate_v person_n shall_v not_o be_v bury_v together_o in_o sacred_a burial_n burial_n as_o well_o for_o the_o instruction_n and_o terror_n of_o such_o sort_n of_o man_n as_o also_o for_o the_o reason_n allege_v here_o by_o the_o pope_n that_o with_o who_o we_o have_v have_v no_o communion_n in_o life_n we_o shall_v not_o communicate_v after_o death_n which_o reason_n m._n barlow_n in_o his_o plain_n deal_v think_v good_a to_o leave_v out_o as_o also_o the_o mention_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o holy_a scripture_n 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the_o moon_n in_o the_o asseâ—_n belly_n m._n barlow_v flattery_n of_o king_n barl._n p._n 44_o 3._o reg._n 2._o wise_o sir_n william_n salomon_n fact_n of_o kill_a adoniah_n condemn_v lucae_n 2._o job_n 36._o psal._n 2._o the_o second_o psalm_n ill_o choose_v of_o m._n barlow_n for_o flattery_n of_o prince_n example_n of_o god_n terrible_a threat_n unto_o king_n daniâ—l_o .4_o 3._o râ—g_v 21._o job_n 36._o god_n providence_n in_o govern_v his_o church_n perfect_a &_o no_o way_n defectuous_a alu._n pelag_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr planctu_fw-la eccl._n cap._n 13._o aluarus_n pelagius_n abuse_v by_o m._n barl._n gratian_n decret_a part_n 1._o distinct_a 5._o greg._n c._n 10._o ad_fw-la interrogata_fw-la augustini_fw-la beda_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr hist._n angl._n cap._n 27._o bertrand_n in_o additione_n ad_fw-la glos_fw-la de_fw-fr maioritate_fw-la &_o obedientia_fw-la c._n â—_o barl._n p._n 49._o m._n barlow_v false_a deal_n in_o allege_v his_o adversary_n word_n â—et_v p._n 20._o prou._n â—4_n vers_fw-la 28._o vincen._n advers._n hare_n august_n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la rel_n cap._n 38._o idolatry_n and_o superstition_n not_o always_o cause_v of_o fâ—ar_n four_o kind_n of_o superstition_n 1._o tim._n 1._o m._n barl._n provoke_v to_o stand_v to_o his_o own_o author_n the_o mayor_n the_o miâ—or_n a_o important_a controversy_n to_o be_v handle_v if_o m._n barlow_n list_v to_o accept_v this_o offer_n alâ—beit_v the_o author_n be_v dead_a he_o shall_v find_v those_o that_o will_v join_v with_o he_o barl._n p._n 52._o there_o be_v no_o ultima_fw-la resolutio_fw-la with_o the_o protestant_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n the_o catholic_n answer_v concern_v his_o uâ—tima_fw-la â—esolutio_fw-la no_o resolution_n among_o heretic_n what_o resolution_n be_v take_v from_o the_o pope_n pag._n 53._o m._n barlow_n hate_v of_o ambition_n scilicet_fw-la and_o his_o mortification_n m._n barlow_v stomach_n for_o digestion_n and_o concoction_n barl._n p._n 54._o letter_n pag._n â—â—_o bar._n p._n 55._o m._n barlow_v idle_a discourse_n 1._o pet._n 2._o 1._o cor._n 8._o lett._n p._n 22._o m._n barlowes_n ill_a fortune_n in_o deal_v with_o schol_n man_n barl._n p._n 57_o of_o active_a &_o passive_a scandal_n â—_o 2._o q._n 43._o be_v 1._o ad_fw-la 4._o scandal_n active_a without_o passive_a ibid._n art_n 2._o in_o coâ—porâ—_n carnal_a divinity_n bad_a deal_n in_o m._n barlow_n the_o definition_n of_o scandal_n &_o what_o be_v active_a and_o passive_a scandal_n scandalum_fw-la pharisaeorum_fw-la scandalum_fw-la pusilloâ—un_n s._n thomas_n expound_v s._n thom._n abuse_v the_o error_n of_o m._n barlow_n about_o the_o matter_n of_o scandal_n m._n barlow_n want_v of_o patience_n m._n barlow_n understand_v not_o the_o tearâ—es_n oâ—_n school_v divinity_n epist._n 50._o who_o lie_v the_o scandal_n of_o balaam_n catholic_n or_o protestant_n letter_n pag._n 22._o m._n barlow_n speak_v morâ—_n than_o he_o can_v prove_v the_o succession_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n barl._n pag._n 59_o &_o 60._o m._n barlow_v argument_n against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n the_o pope_n both_o particular_a bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o yet_o chief_a pastor_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n m._n barlowes_n bad_a argument_n which_o be_v false_a both_o in_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_a evil_a life_n do_v not_o prejudice_n truth_n of_o doctrine_n barl._n p._n 60._o m._n barlowes_n ministerial_a phrase_n of_o indument_n and_o strip_v by_o baptism_n we_o be_v make_v member_n of_o the_o church_n protestant_n go_v out_o of_o the_o catholic_a church_n not_o catholic_n out_o of_o they_o barl._n p._n 62â—_n mattâ—_n 13â—_n antiquity_n &_o prescription_n good_a argument_n in_o case_n of_o religion_n matth._n 13._o tertul._n advers_a marc._n lib._n 4._o the_o father_n do_v urge_v prescription_n hilar._n lib._n 6._o de_fw-fr trinitate_fw-la ante_fw-la medium_n hier._n episâ—â—_n ad_fw-la paâ—nachium_n pag._n â—2_n council_n caâ—thag_n apuâ—_fw-la cyprianun_n bad_a deal_n of_o m._n barlow_n how_o 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barlow_n a_o divine_a for_o the_o court._n apol._n pag._n 16._o m._n barl._n foolish_a shift_n in_o answer_v his_o adversary_n objection_n about_o the_o persecution_n under_o q._n elizabeth_n lett._n paâ—_n 18._o let._n p._n 29._o l._n cook_n in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o late_a arraignment_n fâ—l_o 53._o psal._n 143._o barl._n p._n 78._o m._n barlow_n very_o forgetful_a temporal_a felicity_n no_o argument_n of_o spiritual_a happiness_n psal._n 72._o hier._n 12._o abacuâ—_n 10._o psalm_n 77._o bellarm_n de_fw-fr notis_fw-la eccl._n cap._n 15._o a_o place_n of_o bâ—llarmâ—_n answer_v concern_v temporal_a felicity_n s._n august_n discourse_n s._n hierome_n arnobius_n s._n basil._n s._n chrysostome_n theodoret_n euthymius_n psal._n 2._o 4._o psa._n â—_o 36.23_o sapien._n 4._o proverb_n 1._o 26._o m._n barley_n move_v habens_fw-la l._n câ—â—â—â—_n in_o tâ—e_v last_o boâ—ke_v â—f_a arrâ—ignments_n pag._n 64._o a_o bad_a definition_n of_o misery_n by_o coâ—â—a_n &_o inoâ—ia_fw-la psal._n 68_o 2._o cor._n 1._o sir_n edw._n cook_n a_o poor_a divine_a none_o so_o bold_a as_o blind_a bayard_n lett._n pag._n 29._o m._n barlowes_n weak_a philosophy_n barlow_n p._n 82._o 1._o â—eg_n 31._o eccles._n 4._o &_o 5._o m._n barlow_n hardly_o urge_v m._n barlowes_n want_v of_o divinity_n strange_a case_n of_o conscience_n propose_v by_o m._n barlow_n nabuchodonosor_n more_o happy_a then_o q._n elizabetâ—_n q._n elizabeth_n her_o infelicity_n m._n barlow_n eveâ—_o by_o his_o own_o censure_n and_o sentence_n contemptible_a m._n barlow_n follow_v not_o his_o own_o rule_n â—arlow_a pag._n 96._o the_o vice_n of_o wicked_a king_n recount_v after_o their_o death_n in_o scripture_n letter_n pag._n 35._o a_o monstrous_a head_n of_o the_o english_a protestant_a church_n barlow_n pag._n 99_o nero_n and_o domitian_n head_n of_o the_o church_n in_o m._n barlowes_n opinion_n touch_v the_o birth_n of_o queen_n elizabeth_n m._n barl._n babylon_n philâ—ra_n &_o love-drugg_n m._n barl._n never_o like_a to_o be_v prisoner_n for_o religion_n s._n augusâ—â—â—â—â—o_o protâ—stant_n calumnious_a citation_n for_o what_o cause_n a_o man_n may_v be_v a_o martyr_n matth._n 5._o the_o priest_n that_o dâ—e_n â—â—n_fw-la q._n 〈◊〉_d time_n true_a martyr_n m._n barlow_v two_o foolish_a case_n â—arl_n p._n 92._o quodlib_n pag._n 269._o 277._o m._n barlow_v trifle_v m._n barl_n silence_n and_o the_o cause_n thereof_o a_o charitable_a bishop_n barl._n p._n 94._o barl._n preface_n to_o his_o sâ—â—mon_n the_o fiâ—st_n sunday_n in_o lent_n 16â—0_n about_o the_o make_v a_o way_n his_o majesty_n mother_n tacitus_n lâ—_n 1._o histor._n m._n barlow_n turn_v his_o sail_n with_o the_o wind_n &_o serve_v the_o tyme._n barl._n p._n 59_o q._n elizabeth_n purgation_n about_o the_o q_o of_o scotland_n death_n hier._n 2._o 22._o about_o the_o disastrous_a death_n of_o q._n elizabeth_n â—â—5_n â—5_z the_o narration_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o q._n elizabeth_n death_n in_o what_o case_n we_o may_v judge_n of_o other_o 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