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A88693 Suspension reviewed, stated, cleered and setled upon plain scripture-proof. Agreeable to the former and late constitutions of the Protestant Church of England and other reformed churches. Wherein (defending a private sheet occasionally written by the author upon this subject, against a publique pretended refutation of the same, by Mr W. in his book, entituled, Suspension discussed.) Many important points are handled; sundry whereof are shortly mentioned in the following page. Together with a discourse concering private baptisme, inserted in the epistle dedicatory. / By Samuel Langley, R.S. in the county palatine of Chester. Langley, Samuel, d. 1694. 1658 (1658) Wing L405; Thomason E1823_2; ESTC R209804 201,826 263

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be_v not_o so_o much_o for_o the_o amend_v the_o rule_n which_o before_o be_v prescribe_v as_o in_o call_v people_n up_o to_o a_o strict_a observation_n of_o the_o same_o rule_n for_o matter_n and_o substance_n 5_o it_o have_v be_v already_o show_v that_o the_o presbyterian_a government_n which_o be_v that_o confirm_v by_o the_o parliament_n after_o advice_n have_v with_o the_o assembly_n of_o divine_n not_o what_o some_o presbyterian_o may_v hold_v do_v not_o require_v all_o person_n now_o shall_v be_v again_o examine_v who_o have_v former_o upon_o the_o due_a profession_n of_o their_o faith_n be_v admit_v to_o the_o sacrament_n but_o it_o forbid_v the_o ignorant_a to_o be_v admit_v only_o infer_v that_o such_o as_o hitherto_o have_v not_o understand_o own_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n shall_v now_o be_v call_v to_o do_v it_o if_o they_o will_v partake_v of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o therefore_o where_o any_o have_v former_o perform_v that_o in_o substance_n which_o be_v now_o require_v from_o they_o who_o be_v to_o be_v first_o admit_v to_o the_o supper_n and_o can_v make_v it_o appear_v there_o be_v no_o necessity_n according_a to_o presbyterian_a principle_n for_o their_o rene_a wall_n of_o it_o as_o to_o their_o present_a communicate_v 6_o this_o profession_n must_v be_v make_v before_o sufficient_a and_o comperent_a witness_n else_o it_o can_v be_v a_o satisfactory_a profession_n but_o who_o those_o must_v be_v be_v a_o consideration_n of_o another_o nature_n for_o this_o may_v vary_v according_a to_o the_o different_a circumstance_n of_o person_n time_n and_o place_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n thereupon_o or_o of_o those_o who_o be_v most_o eminent_o concern_v in_o the_o management_n of_o such_o thing_n pertain_v to_o the_o prudential_a order_n thereof_o so_o that_o the_o end_n be_v attain_v for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o person_n admit_v and_o the_o satisfaction_n and_o edification_n
on_o the_o minister_n when_o he_o baptize_v some_o private_o and_o not_o other_o may_v dissuade_v we_o from_o gratify_v any_o herein_o unless_o we_o will_v comply_v with_o all_o who_o may_v desire_v it_o and_o then_o i_o think_v in_o some_o place_n we_o shall_v have_v few_o baptize_v in_o the_o public_a congregation_n what_o grudge_n and_o surmise_n of_o partiality_n this_o may_v beget_v we_o can_v be_v ignorant_a 7._o either_o baptism_n be_v a_o private_a or_o public_a ordinance_n if_o private_a than_o it_o need_v not_o at_o all_o to_o be_v administer_v public_o if_o public_a than_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v administer_v private_o where_o it_o may_v be_v public_o and_o that_o fit_o i_o say_v fit_o for_o sometime_o even_o solemn_a preach_n may_v be_v in_o private_a place_n but_o not_o when_o it_o may_v fit_o be_v in_o public_a so_o be_v the_o case_n here_o 8._o if_o private_a baptism_n be_v admit_v i_o see_v not_o how_o private_a communion_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n will_v be_v rational_o avoid_v which_o yet_o be_v now_o explode_v and_o i_o think_v just_o according_a to_o 1_o cor._n 11.22_o for_o which_o see_v also_o mr_n mede_n discourse_v of_o church_n for_o christian_a worship_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n p._n 4.9_o private_a baptism_n will_v be_v too_o near_o a_o symbolise_n with_o the_o papist_n who_o lie_v the_o stress_n of_o salvation_n upon_o baptism_n necessitate_v medij_fw-la and_o with_o the_o separatist_n who_o leave_v our_o public_a assembly_n &_o retire_v into_o corner_n for_o the_o perform_n of_o public_a ordinance_n 10._o last_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n especial_o the_o church_n of_o england_n may_v dissuade_v from_o private_a baptism_n zepperus_n de_fw-fr polit_fw-la eccl_n l._n 1._o c._n 12._o say_v baptismum_fw-la in_o primitiuâ_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la catechumenis_fw-la adultis_fw-la qui_fw-la e_fw-la gentilismo_fw-la vel_fw-la judaismo_fw-la ad_fw-la christum_fw-la transibant_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la ferijs_fw-la paschalibus_fw-la pentecostes_fw-la &_o natalitijs_fw-la domini_fw-la administrari_fw-la solitum_fw-la idque_fw-la magno_fw-la cum_fw-la apparatu_fw-la &_o solenni_fw-la omnium_fw-la piorum_fw-la laetitiâ_fw-la ex_fw-la illorum_fw-la temporum_fw-la monumentis_fw-la manifestum_fw-la est_fw-la nunc_fw-la quia_fw-la alia_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ratio_fw-la est_fw-la illaque_fw-la ex_fw-la christianorum_fw-la parentum_fw-la liberis_fw-la ferè_fw-la constat_fw-la &_o colligitur_fw-la quotiescunque_fw-la publici_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la caetus_fw-la ordinariè_fw-la habentur_fw-la christianorum_fw-la parvuli_fw-la testimonio_fw-la &_o sigillo_fw-la baptismi_fw-la christo_fw-la ejusque_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la inferentur_fw-la &_o quidem_fw-la patre_fw-la ipso_fw-la ad_fw-la infantis_fw-la svi_fw-la baptismum_fw-la praesente_fw-la atque_fw-la astante_fw-la this_o be_v evidence_v by_o the_o ancient_a custom_n of_o sponsor_n who_o be_v to_o make_v promise_n before_o the_o church_n for_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o baptize_v in_o the_o christian_n faith_n fideijussionem_fw-la say_v he_o &_o sponsionem_fw-la susceptores_fw-la apud_fw-la baptismum_fw-la coram_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o ecclesiae_fw-la ipsius_fw-la fancy_n sacrosanctè_fw-la praestant_fw-la the_o learned_a beza_n in_o libello_fw-la quaestionum_fw-la &_o responsionum_fw-la christianorum_fw-la speak_v home_o to_o this_o business_n q._n a_o de_fw-fr loco_fw-la baptismi_fw-la nihil_fw-la statuendum_fw-la putas_fw-la r._n imo_fw-la quum_fw-la omne_fw-la decenter_n &_o ordine_fw-la fieri_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la oporteat_fw-la sit_fw-la autem_fw-la evangelici_fw-la ministerij_fw-la pars_fw-la baptismus_fw-la eundem_fw-la locum_fw-la &_o verbi_fw-la &_o sacramentorum_fw-la ministerio_fw-la attribuendum_fw-la censeo_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o coetu_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o communibus_fw-la precibus_fw-la adjunctis_fw-la baptismus_fw-la administretur_fw-la neque_fw-la istos_fw-la nescio_fw-la quos_fw-la necessitatis_fw-la 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whereof_o then_o resident_a here_o when_o the_o presbyterial_a government_n be_v first_o commend_v to_o we_o by_o the_o parliament_n i_o have_v by_o i_o subscribe_v with_o their_o own_o hand_n to_o a_o profession_n of_o their_o judgement_n for_o that_o way_n and_o resolution_n to_o put_v the_o same_o in_o practice_n it_o order_v express_o thus_o baptism_n be_v not_o to_o be_v administer_v in_o private_a place_n nor_o private_o but_o in_o the_o place_n of_o the_o public_a worship_n and_o in_o the_o face_n of_o the_o congregation_n there_o be_v but_o one_o i_o know_v of_o profess_v the_o congregational_a way_n who_o come_v to_o private_a house_n in_o the_o country_n and_o with_o the_o parent_n and_o a_o few_o woman_n baptize_v and_o this_o i_o think_v be_v offensive_a to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o same_o way_n he_o profess_v as_o well_o as_o to_o other_o of_o we_o his_o neighbour_n now_o we_o all_o profess_v to_o be_v studious_a of_o peace_n but_o how_o shall_v we_o make_v it_o 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they_o i_o know_v none_o that_o deny_v and_o there_o be_v scripture-evidence_n for_o it_o the_o heretic_n titus_n 3.10_o be_v not_o to_o be_v reject_v and_o cast_v out_o of_o all_o that_o private_a christian_a communion_n which_o some_o excommunication_n deprive_v of_o till_o after_o the_o first_o and_o second_o admonition_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v give_v together_o and_o at_o one_o time_n as_o all_o acknowledge_v but_o at_o some_o distance_n and_o a_o person_n be_v not_o thus_o to_o be_v reject_v till_o obstinate_a now_o obstinacy_n in_o wickedness_n refer_v to_o faith_n or_o manner_n can_v be_v sudden_o manifest_v but_o require_v several_a admonition_n be_v to_o be_v reject_v by_o a_o offender_n before_o he_o can_v be_v declare_v obstinate_a §._o 8._o 4_o there_o be_v sundry_a sort_n of_o person_n in_o sundry_a capacity_n concern_v and_o exercise_v in_o withdraw_v from_o a_o scandalous_a brother_n 1._o the_o minister_n the_o steward_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o god_n 2_o the_o 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repute_v and_o deal_v with_o as_o justify_v sincere_a believer_n §._o 13._o in_o my_o six_o particular_a concern_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n in_o the_o m_o s._n numb_a 15_o 16._o i_o make_v use_v of_o ames_n his_o word_n to_o express_v my_o mind_n viz_o that_o the_o lesser_a degree_n of_o excommunication_n which_o consist_v in_o suspension_n have_v place_n in_o the_o church_n not_o by_o any_o particular_a express_a institution_n of_o christ_n but_o from_o equity_n and_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n itself_o there_o first_o mr._n w._n flout_v i_o as_o quote_v so_o low_a a_o authority_n and_o adjudge_v i_o to_o be_v style_v a_o private_a man_n for_o it_o i_o have_v be_v more_o private_a but_o for_o he_o but_o it_o be_v evident_a i_o build_v nothing_o upon_o the_o authority_n of_o ames_n here_o no_o more_o then_o mr._n w._n do_v on_o the_o author_n of_o charity_n mistake_v or_o tornesius_n which_o he_o quote_v in_o his_o epistle_n next_o he_o give_v we_o his_o observation_n 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and_o other_o pretend_v ignorance_n of_o such_o a_o ordinance_n and_o wonder_v when_o it_o be_v show_v they_o and_o well_o they_o may_v that_o they_o shall_v no_o more_o regard_v the_o affair_n of_o the_o church_n other_o have_v pretend_v it_o be_v but_o a_o ordinance_n and_o therefore_o not_o valid_a after_o the_o dissolution_n of_o the_o parliament_n who_o make_v it_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n have_v sue_v for_o their_o tithe_n upon_o a_o ordinance_n build_v upon_o the_o same_o authority_n to_o the_o latter_a part_n i_o return_v cyprian_n answer_v epist._n 55._o ad_fw-la cornelium_n quod_fw-la si_fw-la ita_fw-la res_fw-la est_fw-la frater_fw-la charissime_fw-la ut_fw-la nequissimorum_fw-la timeatur_fw-la audacia_fw-la &_o quod_fw-la mali_fw-la jure_fw-la atque_fw-la aequitate_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la temeritate_fw-la ac_fw-la desperatione_n perficiant_fw-la actum_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la vigore_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr ecclesiae_fw-la gubernandae_fw-la sublimi_fw-la ac_fw-la divinâ_fw-la potestate_fw-la nec_fw-la christiani_n ultrâ_fw-la aut_fw-la durare_fw-la aut_fw-la esse_fw-la jam_fw-la possumus_fw-la si_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la ventum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la perditorum_fw-la minas_fw-la atque_fw-la infidias_fw-la pertimescamus_fw-la and_o after_o non_fw-la id_fw-la circo_fw-la frater_fw-la charissime_fw-la relinquenda_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la disciplina_fw-la aut_fw-la sacerdotalis_fw-la solvenda_fw-la censura_fw-la quoniam_fw-la convitijs_fw-la infestamu●_n aut_fw-la terroribus_fw-la quatimur_fw-la etc._n etc._n §._o 5._o to_o his_o four_o i_o answer_v it_o be_v most_o of_o it_o answer_v in_o what_o be_v late_o mention_v whereby_o it_o appear_v if_o minister_n be_v not_o the_o great_a hinderer_n of_o church_n order_n they_o may_v see_v that_o presbyterated_a church_n have_v power_n from_o the_o state_n authoritative_o to_o send_v for_o offender_n yea_o to_o give_v oath_n if_o need_v require_v but_o as_o long_o as_o the_o magistrate_n do_v not_o compel_v they_o to_o do_v their_o duty_n herein_o by_o deprive_v they_o of_o their_o maintenance_n for_o neglect_v hereof_o as_o well_o as_o for_o total_a neglect_n of_o preach_v they_o can_v see_v sufficient_a authority_n for_o their_o act_n herein_o that_o question_n mr._n w._n here_o propound_v whether_o parochial_a suspension_n with_o classical_a power_n in_o be_v by_o toleration_n civil_a be_v a_o universal_a remedy_n against_o all_o the_o evil_n that_o belong_v to_o ecclesiastical_a cognizance_n lanswer_v negative_o who_o say_v it_o be_v but_o do_v mr._n w._n thence_o evince_v the_o consequence_n of_o my_o fore-recited_a argument_n to_o be_v invalid_a good_a reader_n respice_fw-la titulum_fw-la look_v to_o what_o mr_n w._n be_v answer_v to_o all_o along_o and_o then_o judge_v whether_o it_o be_v handsome_a he_o of_o many_o shall_v have_v tell_v the_o world_n how_o he_o fear_v my_o brain_n be_v almost_o mar_v as_o he_o do_v p._n 89._o i_o be_o behold_v to_o he_o for_o his_o care_n of_o i_o but_o i_o can_v desire_v he_o shall_v be_v for_n
and_o oblige_v they_o to_o a_o performance_n of_o condition_n now_o upon_o this_o ground_n i_o will_v propose_v it_o to_o consideration_n whether_o a_o notorious_o ungodly_a parent_n yea_o excommunicate_a who_o in_o word_n profess_v assent_v to_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o know_v what_o the_o christian_a faith_n be_v as_o to_o the_o fundamental_n of_o it_o may_v not_o just_o and_o fair_o be_v presume_v by_o the_o church_n and_o minister_n hearty_o to_o consent_v to_o dedicate_v his_o child_n to_o god_n in_o god_n way_n although_o he_o himself_o be_v so_o bewitch_v with_o and_o enslave_v to_o his_o lust_n that_o he_o do_v not_o consent_n as_o it_o appear_v by_o his_o contradictory_n deed_n to_o give_v up_o himself_o to_o god_n in_o his_o way_n for_o my_o part_n i_o do_v very_o think_v many_o a_o drunkard_n will_v have_v his_o child_n sober_a and_o temperate_a and_o many_o a_o wanton_a desire_n his_o child_n may_v be_v chaste_a etc._n etc._n and_o in_o general_a many_o a_o wicked_a parent_n appear_v cordial_o to_o rejoice_v in_o the_o towardliness_n and_o godliness_n of_o his_o child_n etc._n etc._n and_o then_o according_a to_o the_o foresay_a position_n of_o this_o accurate_a and_o pious_a author_n the_o child_n of_o such_o a_o wicked_a parent_n may_v be_v admit_v to_o enter_v and_o therefore_o to_o seal_v his_o entrance_n into_o covenant_n with_o god_n in_o baptism_n he_o consent_v understand_o for_o he_o upon_o gospel_n term_n who_o he_o be_v and_o in_o who_o will_n the_o child_n will_n be_v interpretative_o involve_v yet_o because_o the_o scandalousnes_n of_o the_o say_a parent_n give_v just_a occasion_n to_o the_o church_n of_o suspicion_n fear_n and_o jealousy_n lest_o he_o shall_v alter_v his_o will_n and_o desire_v now_o signify_v to_o have_v his_o child_n true_o a_o christian_n and_o godly_a and_o so_o fail_v in_o use_v necessary_a mean_n for_o his_o child_n instruction_n during_o its_o nonage_n in_o the_o christian_a faith_n it_o be_v but_o equitable_a the_o church_n shall_v demand_v surety_n for_o the_o same_o according_a to_o ames_n his_o resolution_n of_o the_o case_n de_fw-fr conscientiâ_fw-la lib._n 4._o qu._n 1._o resp_n 8._o excommunicatorum_fw-la contumacium_fw-la liberi_fw-la non_fw-la expedit_fw-la baptizari_fw-la nisi_fw-la sponsorum_fw-la idonco●um_fw-la interventu_fw-la i_o must_v beg_v the_o reader_n pardon_v for_o this_o excursion_n which_o i_o fall_v into_o almost_o unaware_o and_o have_v engage_v in_o it_o of_o some_o i_o shall_v have_v cause_n to_o crave_v their_o excuse_n for_o say_v so_o much_o and_o of_o other_o for_o say_v no_o more_o the_o point_n indeed_o deserve_v a_o large_a disquisition_n but_o my_o apology_n to_o the_o former_a shall_v be_v that_o mr._n w._n his_o exception_n i_o be_v answer_v do_v in_o the_o latitude_n of_o it_o comprehend_v this_o and_o therefore_o i_o will_v not_o whole_o pass_v it_o by_o and_o to_o the_o latter_a that_o his_o word_n do_v not_o clear_o import_v he_o have_v any_o special_a reference_n to_o this_o point_n and_o therefore_o i_o think_v the_o less_o may_v serve_v to_o note_v concern_v it_o in_o my_o reply_n unto_o he_o psalm_n 119._o part_n 19_o t._n 145_o this_o whole_a heart_n cry_v to_o thou_o lord_n hear_v thy_o statute_n i_o will_v fulfil_v 146_o to_o thou_o i_o call_v save_v i_o most_o dear_a thy_o hest_n i_o shall_v keep_v still_o 147_o the_o daybreak_n my_o cry_n do_v prevent_v trust_v thy_o word_n i_o wait_v 148_o the_o night_n too_o my_o eye_n be_v intent_n thy_o truth_n to_o meditate_v 149_o to_o my_o voice_n hark_v in_o kindness_n true_a thy_o judgement_n quicken_v i_o 150_o they_o draw_v nigh_o who_o mischief_n pursue_v far_o from_o thy_o law_n they_o be_v 151_o thou_o lord_n be_v near_o and_o very_o true_a be_v thy_o commandment_n sure_a 152_o thy_o hest_n thou_o have_v of_o old_a i_o know_v found_v aye_o to_o endure_v chap._n xx._n §._o 1._o i_o shall_v now_o proceed_v to_o what_o remain_v 3_o in_o the_o next_o place_n mr._n w._n answer_v my_o forementioned_a reason_n to_o this_o purpose_n p._n 110_o 111._o if_o the_o man_n suppose_v in_o the_o case_n come_v and_o desire_v to_o communicate_v and_o that_o earnest_o this_o mr._n w._n say_v be_v right_o affirm_v by_o my_o antagonist_n to_o be_v a_o testimony_n of_o his_o seriousness_n which_o we_o may_v not_o upon_o his_o profession_n thereof_o refuse_v to_o believe_v and_o this_o mr._n w._n prove_v in_o these_o word_n for_o sir_n if_o you_o grant_v the_o case_n viz._n that_o he_o desire_v to_o communicate_v and_o that_o earnest_o then_o show_v a_o reason_n if_o you_o can_v why_o all_o godly_a mind_a christian_n shall_v not_o in_o charity_n believe_v upon_o his_o profession_n hereof_o that_o this_o be_v to_o we_o in_o foro_fw-la externo_fw-la a_o credible_a testimony_n of_o his_o seriousness_n nay_o you_o add_v moreover_o that_o who_o make_v a_o credible_a serious_a profession_n of_o his_o faith_n and_o willingness_n to_o submit_v to_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n the_o church_n ought_v not_o to_o excommunicate_v nay_o you_o add_v doubtless_o the_o church_n ought_v not_o and_o we_o add_v that_o doubtless_o the_o church_n ought_v not_o to_o deny_v such_o a_o one_o the_o lord_n supper_n or_o suspend_v he_o from_o it_o what_o a_o schism_n will_v do_v we_o know_v not_o etc._n etc._n the_o reader_n may_v be_v please_v to_o bear_v in_o memory_n that_o after_o i_o have_v evince_v that_o a_o man_n baptize_v at_o year_n and_o not_o full_o excommunicate_v may_v be_v debar_v the_o sacrament_n if_o at_o the_o time_n when_o he_o tender_v himself_o to_o be_v admit_v when_o the_o time_n of_o celebration_n begin_v to_o draw_v near_o he_o in_o word_n renounce_v christ_n or_o a_o essential_a of_o christianity_n which_o be_v not_o that_o i_o find_v deny_v by_o mr._n w._n in_o the_o procedure_n of_o my_o argument_n i_o add_v that_o if_o such_o word_n reject_v of_o christ_n as_o before-said_a may_v debar_v the_o person_n aforesaid_a than_o some_o deed-rejecting_a of_o christ_n may_v also_o because_o that_o by_o some_o deed_n of_o wickedness_n there_o be_v as_o credible_o a_o signification_n of_o a_o man_n reject_v christ_n as_o in_o word_n and_o this_o be_v prove_v as_o by_o other_o arguing_n so_o by_o this_o under_o our_o hand_n at_o present_a viz._n if_o some_o deed_n do_v not_o as_o credible_o signify_v a_o person_n reject_v of_o christ_n as_o word_n may_v do_v then_o none_o can_v be_v excommunicate_v for_o sinful_a deed_n while_o they_o renounce_v not_o christ_n in_o word_n but_o in_o word_n profess_v their_o earnest_a desire_n to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o sacrament_n this_o consequence_n be_v valid_a at_o lest_o ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la because_o my_o antagonist_n intimate_v that_o he_o who_o verbal_o profess_v his_o desire_n to_o receive_v must_v be_v by_o we_o account_v a_o serious_a professor_n of_o faith_n what_o ever_o his_o work_n be_v and_o i_o aver_v that_o no_o visible_o serious_a professor_n of_o faith_n be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v for_o than_o one_o in_o the_o way_n of_o a_o visible_a exercise_n of_o faith_n and_o true_a repentance_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v which_o none_o sure_o will_v affirm_v and_o this_o consequence_n i_o can_v see_v that_o mr._n w._n stick_v at_o but_o now_o whereas_o i_o shall_v assume_v but_o some_o may_v be_v excommunicate_v for_o sinful_a deed_n notwithstanding_o that_o in_o word_n they_o renounce_v not_o christ_n but_o verbal_o profess_v their_o carne_a desire_n to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o sacrament_n this_o i_o think_v mr._n w._n deny_v i_o be_o not_o certain_a look_v over_o his_o word_n thyself_o reader_n and_o use_v thy_o own_o judgement_n to_o guess_v what_o he_o drive_v at_o but_o this_o i_o be_o certain_a of_o either_o he_o deny_v this_o or_o he_o say_v nothing_o of_o a_o contradictory_n tendency_n to_o my_o argumentation_n which_o here_o he_o pretend_v to_o enervate_v and_o if_o he_o do_v deny_v the_o foresay_a assumption_n as_o i_o conceive_v his_o word_n import_v take_v together_o it_o may_v be_v impute_v to_o his_o haste_n that_o he_o shall_v hold_v what_o be_v so_o manifest_o false_a viz._n that_o none_o may_v be_v excommunicate_v for_o sinful_a deed_n though_o never_o so_o heinous_a and_o notorious_a if_o he_o renounce_v not_o christ_n in_o word_n and_o profess_v verbal_o his_o earnest_a desire_n to_o communicate_v §._o 2._o but_o because_o m._n w._n bid_v i_o show_v a_o reason_n if_o i_o can_v for_o the_o contrary_n i_o must_v prove_v that_o the_o sun_n shine_v at_o noon_n day_n and_o 1._o if_o this_o his_o assertion_n be_v true_a than_o not_o profess_v earnest_a desire_n to_o communicate_v in_o the_o only_a crime_n sufficient_a to_o cause_v excommunication_n but_o a_o man_n may_v be_v excommunicate_v for_o other_o wickedness_n without_o respect_n to_o this_o 1_o cor._n 5.11_o a_o whore_n monger_n or_o drunkard_n
etc._n etc._n notorious_o such_o may_v profess_v his_o earnest_a desire_n to_o receive_v and_o yet_o that_o make_v he_o not_o no_o whoremonger_n and_o no_o drunkard_n 2._o then_o also_o the_o church_n may_v look_v for_o no_o further_a satisfaction_n in_o order_n to_o restore_v of_o a_o excommunicate_a than_o his_o verbal_a profession_n of_o earnest_a desire_n to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n for_o that_o which_o shall_v prevent_v their_o excommunicate_v of_o he_o must_v be_v avaylable_a to_o restore_v he_o but_o the_o church_n in_o many_o age_n have_v require_v particular_a confession_n of_o notorious_a sin_n and_o express_v profession_n of_o repentance_n for_o they_o and_o not_o only_a profession_n of_o earnest_a desire_n to_o receive_v as_o antecedent_o necessary_a to_o the_o absolution_n of_o a_o excommunicate_a in_o analogy_n to_o that_o levit._fw-la 5.4_o 5_o 6._o where_o he_o who_o be_v to_o bring_v his_o trespass_n offer_v for_o a_o false_a oath_n though_o through_o ignorance_n be_v to_o confess_v that_o he_o have_v sin_v in_o that_o thing_n and_o then_o he_o be_v allow_v to_o b●ing_v his_o trespass-offering_a to_o the_o lord_n and_o the_o priest_n shall_v make_v a_o atonement_n for_o he_o concern_v his_o sin_n so_o more_o general_o numb_a 5.7_o on_o which_o say_v ainsworth_n out_o of_o maimonides_n the_o hebrew_n set_v down_o this_o duty_n thus_o this_o confession_n be_v with_o word_n and_o it_o be_v command_v to_o be_v do_v how_o do_v they_o confess_v he_o say_v oh_o god_n for_o i_o have_v sin_v i_o have_v do_v perverse_o i_o have_v trespass_v before_o thou_o and_o have_v do_v thus_o and_o thus_o and_o lo_o i_o repent_v and_o be_o ashamed_a of_o my_o do_n and_o i_o will_v never_o do_v this_o thing_n again_o and_o this_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o confession_n and_o who_o so_o make_v a_o large_a confession_n and_o be_v long_o in_o the_o thing_n he_o be_v to_o be_v commend_v and_o so_o the_o owner_n of_o sinand_a trespass-offering_n when_o they_o bring_v their_o oblation_n for_o their_o ignorant_a or_o presumptuous_a sin_n atonement_n be_v not_o make_v for_o they_o by_o their_o oblation_n until_o they_o have_v make_v repentance_n and_o confession_n by_o word_n of_o mouth_n likewise_o all_o condemn_v to_o death_n by_o the_o magistrate_n or_o condemn_v to_o stripe_n no_o atonement_n be_v make_v for_o they_o by_o their_o death_n or_o by_o their_o stripe_n until_o they_o have_v epent_v and_o confess_v and_o so_o he_o that_o hurt_v his_o neighbour_n ●_o do_v he_o damage_n though_o he_o pay_v he_o whatsoever_o he_o owe_v he_o illonement_n be_v not_o make_v for_o he_o till_o he_o confess_v and_o turn_v away_o from_o do_v so_o again_o for_o ever_o now_o it_o may_v be_v mr._n w._n can_v have_v teach_v they_o a_o more_o expeite_n and_o easy_a way_n of_o satiffactory_a confession_n viz._n if_o the_o offendeiprofess_v verbal_o his_o earnest_a desire_n to_o partake_v of_o the_o passeove_fw-mi that_o shall_v quit_v all_o score_n §._o 3._o mr._n w._n further_o add_v as_o for_o your_o full_o and_o not_o full_o excommunicate_a we_o look_v not_o on_o they_o as_o considerable_a in_o this_o present_a controversy_n they_o be_v your_o own_o miserable_a shift_n etc._n etc._n what_o be_v the_o conclusion_n ergo_fw-la my_o fore_n mention_v reason_n be_v not_o sound_a wonderful_a hap_n he_o have_v if_o he_o can_v draw_v this_o inference_n from_o such_o premise_n this_o distinction_n of_o excommunication_n have_v be_v prove_v before_o at_o chap._n 3_o and_o i_o wonder_v not_o if_o he_o will_v so_o fain_o shift_v it_o out_o of_o his_o way_n if_o he_o can_v it_o so_o full_o enervate_v the_o reason_n of_o his_o champion_n mr._n timson_n and_o show_v his_o miscarriage_n in_o the_o very_o state_v of_o the_o question_n if_o that_o three_o chap._n aforesaid_a stand_v good_a particular_o the_o six_o §_o that_o excommunicate_n be_v church-member_n and_o be_v not_o by_o excommunication_n cut_v off_o from_o all_o ordinance_n although_o accidental_o 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