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A86506 A vindication of baptizing beleevers infants. In some animadversions upon Mr. Tombes his Exercitations about infant baptisme; as also upon his Examen, as touching the antiquities and authors by him alledged or contradicted that concern the same. Humbly submitted to the judgement of all candid Christians, / by Nathanael Homes. Published according to order. Homes, Nathanael, 1599-1678. 1646 (1646) Wing H2578; Thomason E324_1; ESTC R200604 209,591 247

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wrong_a party_n as_o the_o anabaptist_n pretend_v both_o and_o proclaim_v thereupon_o a_o nullity_n of_o baptism_n of_o such_o person_n justify_v that_o then_o and_o there_o be_v a_o due_a succession_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o thus_o have_v the_o baptism_n of_o believer_n infant_n ten_o thousand_o for_o one_o of_o ripe_a year_n continue_v in_o holland_n scotland_n england_n and_o other_o church_n in_o france_n and_o germany_n and_o where_o otherwise_o beyond_o the_o memory_n of_o the_o old_a man_n alive_a where_o then_o have_v be_v the_o succession_n of_o the_o church_n all_o that_o while_n according_a to_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n touch_v child_n baptism_n sure_o they_o will_v not_o hold_v the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n a_o infallible_a essential_a note_n of_o a_o church_n so_o long_o as_o while_o infant_n grow_v up_o to_o be_v man_n for_o true_a preach_v of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n on_o the_o preacher_n part_n may_v be_v to_o heathen_n doubtless_o as_o m._n p._n and_o vossius_fw-la distinguish_v wide_n be_v the_o difference_n of_o a_o church_n in_o the_o constitution_n when_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n must_v receive_v the_o first_o seal_n from_o a_o church_n constitute_v wherein_o the_o first_o seal_n descend_v from_o the_o believer_n to_o his_o child_n for_o any_o precept_n that_o appear_v in_o the_o old_a or_o new_a testament_n to_o the_o contrary_n but_o mr_n t._n faith_n in_o his_o second_o particular_a which_o will_v nothing_o please_v the_o anabaptist_n perhaps_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o be_v say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n because_o not_o lawful_a be_v not_o therefore_o null_a note_n note_n we_o reply_v mr_n t._n speak_v but_o perhaps_o and_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a and_o to_o say_v so_o but_o what_o perhaps_o will_v m._n t._n say_v and_o how_o necessary_o say_v baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v all_o null_n by_o that_o time_n he_o have_v full_o concoct_v this_o principle_n of_o the_o unlawfullnesse_n of_o the_o baptise_v of_o any_o infant_n as_o thousand_o of_o other_o have_v do_v and_o some_o honest_a man_n and_o scholar_n who_o upon_o the_o say_a principle_n of_o antipaedaptist_n have_v turn_v anabaptist_n though_o they_o draw_v their_o original_n of_o rebaptisme_n from_o most_o scripturelesse_a se-baptisme_n i_o may_v well_o put_v the_o question_n for_o by_o that_o time_n m._n tomb_n be_v go_v six_o leaf_n further_a viz._n in_o the_o 34_o and_o last_o page_n of_o his_o exercitation_n he_o begin_v to_o be_v beyond_o perhaps_o and_o speak_v as_o if_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o say_v that_o the_o assume_v of_o baptism_n in_o ripe_a year_n by_o those_o who_o be_v wash_v in_o infancy_n be_v not_o a_o renounce_n of_o baptism_n as_o some_o in_o their_o gross_a ignorance_n conceit_n but_o indeed_o a_o firm_a avouch_v of_o baptism_n according_a to_o christ_n mind_n if_o the_o reader_n will_v but_o mark_v these_o line_n well_o and_o especial_o those_o word_n we_o have_v put_v in_o another_o character_n he_o will_v easy_o be_v a_o commentator_n to_o himself_o upon_o mr_n tomb_n his_o warp_a judgement_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o three_o particular_a wherein_o he_o aessert_v that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o church_n baptism_n of_o person_n grow_v in_o all_o age_n and_o quote_v ludovicus_n vives_z to_o prove_v it_o we_o reply_v first_o to_o his_o assertion_n first_o that_o be_v very_o general_a for_o a_o answer_n to_o a_o argument_n there_o be_v person_n how_o many_o in_o all_o age_n what_o mean_v that_o in_o every_o hundred_o year_n or_o ordinary_a age_n of_o man_n suppose_v sixty_o year_n or_o less_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o clear_v a_o continue_a succession_n of_o the_o church_n in_o point_n of_o baptise_v person_n of_o ripe_a year_n second_o let_v we_o deal_v plain_o one_o with_o another_o in_o thing_n of_o this_o nature_n can_n m._n t._n or_o any_o else_o produce_v proof_n that_o in_o england_n scotland_n ireland_n etc._n etc._n there_o have_v be_v baptize_v in_o either_o of_o these_o at_o least_o one_o of_o ripe_a year_n every_o year_n for_o these_o 80_o or_o a_o 100_o year_n last_o pass_v if_o not_o or_o if_o so_o where_o be_v a_o sufficient_a number_n to_o continue_v the_o succession_n of_o church_n we_o talk_v of_o in_o point_n of_o adult-baptisme_n baptism_n of_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n 2_o to_o his_o quotation_n of_o lord_v vives_z we_o say_v first_o he_o be_v but_o of_o yesterday_o to_o say_v without_o proof_n what_o have_v be_v in_o former_a age_n for_o in_o all_o his_o note_n on_o august_n he_o cite_v not_o one_o scripture_n not_o one_o antiquity_n not_o one_o author_n nor_o any_o thing_n that_o may_v go_v for_o a_o reason_n but_o only_o tell_v we_o of_o a_o fashion_n of_o question_n put_v to_o humane-devised_n godfather_n and_o godmother_n as_o they_o call_v they_o and_o of_o a_o hear-say_n out_o of_o italy_n a_o likely_a place_n to_o preserve_v any_o pure_a truth_n 2._o though_o lud._n vives_z be_v a_o good_a scholar_n in_o art_n yet_o we_o must_v not_o give_v credit_n to_o he_o in_o divine_a thing_n when_o his_o phrase_n depart_v from_o purity_n and_o his_o assertion_n from_o verity_n he_o say_v nem_v olin_n sacro_fw-la admovebatur_fw-la baptisterio_fw-la that_o be_v no_o man_n of_o old_a be_v bring_v unto_o the_o holy_a baptistery_n font_n or_o vessel_n to_o wash_v in_o he_o put_v holiness_n in_o or_o upon_o the_o vessel_n in_o which_o these_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n be_v baptize_v for_o it_o shall_v seem_v by_o he_o they_o be_v not_o baptize_v in_o a_o river_n which_o phrase_n of_o lud._n vives_z mr_n tomb_n cover_v with_o a_o double_a garment_n first_o translate_n baptisterio_n by_o the_o word_n place_n that_o being_n wide_a enough_o in_o signification_n to_o include_v river_n second_o translate_n sacro_fw-la baptisterio_n the_o holy_a place_n by_o the_o place_n of_o holy_a baptism_n lord_v vives_z go_v on_o nisi_fw-la adulta_fw-la jam_fw-la aetate_fw-la that_o be_v unless_o he_o be_v of_o ripe_a age_n already_o now_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a mistake_n and_o opposite_a to_o the_o best_a approve_a antiquity_n that_o tell_v we_o it_o be_v a_o know_a custom_n in_o the_o church_n to_o baptize_v infant_n within_o few_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o apostle_n john_n and_o therefore_o this_o custom_n can_v not_o total_o invade_v the_o church_n on_o such_o a_o sudden_a without_o any_o mention_n in_o antiquity_n but_o flow_v doubtless_o down_o from_o the_o apostle_n so_o justin_n martyr_n irenaeus_n origen_n cyprian_n gregory_n natianzen_n ambrose_n augustine_n and_o other_o for_o the_o pretence_n make_v by_o mr_n t._n against_o some_o quotation_n of_o those_o father_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o to_o take_v they_o off_o and_o to_o justify_v these_o antiquity_n when_o we_o come_v in_o our_o xiii_o chapter_n to_o mr_n tomb_n his_o four_o argument_n against_o the_o baptise_v of_o believer_n infant_n in_o his_o exercitation_n §_o 17._o for_o the_o present_a we_o have_v no_o more_o to_o say_v to_z vives_z or_o mr_n tomb_n upon_o this_o argument_n but_o only_o to_o admire_v that_o mr_n tomb_n will_v translate_v vives_z as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v that_o the_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n desire_v to_o be_v wash_v more_o than_o once_o in_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n for_o so_o it_o lie_v fair_a in_o mr_n tomb_n his_o translation_n to_o please_v a_o anabaptist_n namely_o the_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n desire_v to_o be_v wash_v in_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n and_o that_o more_o than_o once_o whereas_o mr_n tomb_n follow_v the_o latin_a close_o which_o be_v so_o ablui_fw-la ill●_n aquâ_fw-la pe●eres_fw-la nec_fw-la semel_fw-la peteres_fw-la he_o may_v have_v translate_v clear_a that_o he_o desire_v and_o desire_a more_o than_o once_o what_o to_o be_v wash_v with_o that_o water_n chap._n x._o seventhly_o heb._n 6.2_o examine_v exercitat_fw-la §_o 14._o the_o argument_n from_o heb._n 6.2_o for_o infant-baptisme_n examine_v the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n and_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n now_o this_o be_v not_o likely_a to_o be_v understand_v of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n in_o heal_a sick_a person_n or_o bestow_v the_o holy_a ghost_n for_o these_o be_v extraordinary_a or_o miraculous_a and_o therefore_o not_o to_o be_v put_v in_o the_o number_n of_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o oracle_n of_o god_n the_o foundation_n milk_n for_o babe_n nor_o of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o ordination_n to_o special_a function_n in_o the_o church_n for_o that_o though_o ordinary_a yet_o not_o likely_a to_o be_v put_v among_o the_o principle_n the_o foundation_n milk_n for_o babe_n therefore_o it_o remain_v that_o it_o be_v the_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n on_o child_n former_o baptize_v in_o infancy_n which_o though_o corrupt_o make_v a_o sacrament_n by_o papist_n and_o superstitious_o abuse_v yet_o be_v free_v from_o the_o
t._n yet_o he_o will_v be_v believe_v in_o his_o exercitation_n 8_o what_o be_v all_o this_o that_o mr_n t._n have_v say_v to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n for_o we_o allege_v not_o fidus_n his_o epistle_n to_o cyprian_a but_o cyprian_n to_o fidus_n relate_v their_o judgement_n and_o reason_n for_o infant-baptisme_n of_o which_o afore_o large_o and_o full_o and_o now_o observe_v that_o cyprian_n say_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o rest_n in_o that_o his_o epistle_n to_o fidus_n that_o concern_v that_o opinion_n that_o the_o footstep_n of_o a_o infant_n in_o the_o first_o day_n of_o his_o birth_n be_v unclean_a and_o so_o not_o to_o be_v then_o baptize_v it_o seem_v far_o otherwise_o to_o all_o of_o we_o in_o the_o council_n and_o then_o reason_n against_o it_o 9_o hierom_n and_o augustine_n do_v not_o so_o rely_v on_o cyprian_a but_o that_o they_o have_v many_o reason_n of_o their_o own_o out_o of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v infant-baptisme_n of_o which_o after_o 3._o mr_n t._n object_n against_o cyprian_n epistle_n to_o fidus_n 7._o examen_fw-la sect._n 7._o you_o say_v mr_n t._n to_o mr_n m._n say_v cyprian_n assure_v fidus_n that_o by_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o 66._o bpp_o in_o a_o council_n baptism_n be_v to_o be_v administer_v to_o infant_n etc._n etc._n and_o not_o to_o be_v restrain_v to_o any_o time_n which_o be_v true_a say_v mr_n t._n but_o you_o add_v say_v he_o to_o mr_n m._n and_o prove_v it_o by_o such_o argument_n as_o these_o they_o be_v under_o original_a sin_n they_o need_v pardon_n be_v capable_a of_o grace_n and_o mercy_n god_n regard_v not_o age_n but_o say_v mr_n t._n the_o resolution_n of_o cyprian_a with_o his_o colleague_n be_v not_o so_o light_o to_o be_v pass_v over_o see_v the_o determination_n of_o this_o council_n as_o far_o as_o i_o can_v find_v by_o search_n be_v the_o very_a spring_n head_n of_o infant-baptisme_n to_o conceive_v it_o aright_o it_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v that_o you_o be_v mistake_v about_o the_o proof_n of_o their_o opinion_n the_o thing_n you_o mention_v be_v not_o the_o proof_n but_o be_v produce_v in_o answer_n to_o objection_n the_o proof_n be_v but_o one_o unless_o you_o will_v make_v a_o proof_n of_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o close_a of_o the_o epistle_n which_o be_v that_o whereas_o none_o be_v to_o be_v keep_v from_o baptism_n and_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n much_o less_o newborn_a infant_n who_o in_o this_o respect_n do_v deserve_v mercy_n deserve_v ●he_v word_n ●●erentur_fw-la de_fw-la ●ight_n have_v ●in_v translate_v ●ore_o favourable_o by_o mr_n t._n ●or_a 1._o mercor●●gnifies_v ●●gnifies_z sometimes_o only_o to_o ●●et_v attain_v or_o 〈◊〉_d receive_v 2._o ●n_n opposition_n ●●o_o merit_n cypri●n_n say_v nihil●liud_fw-la faciunt_fw-la ●ot_n agunt_fw-la 3._o ●e_n say_v the_o ●pe_n nostra_fw-la now_o what_o can_v ●n_v infant_n merit_v of_o a_o man_n 4._o there_o be_v a_o difference_n between_o mereri_fw-la ●liquid_fw-la and_o mereri_fw-la de_fw-la aliquo_fw-la which_o latter_a oft_o signify_v to_o owe_v to_o one_o as_o infant_n owe_v more_o to_o god_n mercy_n 5._o it_o be_v say_v god_n mercy_n more_o of_o our_o aid_n and_o of_o god_n mercy_n because_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o their_o birth_n they_o present_o cry_v and_o weep_v do_v nothing_o but_o pray_v the_o only_a proof_n be_v this_o the_o mercy_n and_o grace_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v deny_v to_o none_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o man_n for_o the_o lord_n say_v in_o the_o gospel_n that_o the_o son_n of_o man_n come_v not_o to_o destroy_v man_n soul_n but_o to_o save_v they_o and_o therefore_o as_o much_o as_o in_o we_o lie_v if_o it_o may_v be_v no_o soul_n be_v to_o be_v lose_v and_o therefore_o all_o infant_n at_o all_o time_n to_o be_v baptize_v animad_fw-la we_o answ_v that_o in_o much_o of_o all_o this_o mr_n t._n rather_o seem_v to_o pursue_v a_o man_n then_o the_o matter_n i_o shall_v rather_o pursue_v the_o matter_n then_o mr_n t._n for_o so_o do_v therefore_o i_o animadvert_v first_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o of_o consequence_n whether_o there_o be_v one_o or_o two_o or_o three_o proof_n doubtless_o the_o ingenuous_a reader_n may_v see_v in_o that_o epistle_n that_o infant-baptism_n be_v argue_v for_o out_o of_o scripture_n first_o and_o last_o &_o in_o the_o middle_n &_o according_a to_o the_o light_n of_o the_o time_n and_o let_v we_o bless_v god_n for_o that_o of_o their_o record_n we_o have_v to_o show_v we_o the_o practice_n of_o ancient_a church_n in_o many_o material_a point_n have_v we_o live_v in_o their_o time_n it_o be_v a_o question_n whether_o we_o shall_v have_v see_v as_o much_o as_o they_o do_v if_o we_o now_o see_v more_o its_o because_o we_o dwarf_n be_v set_v upon_o the_o shoulder_n of_o those_o giant_n second_o that_o cyprian_n epistle_n be_v not_o the_o springhead_n of_o infant-baptisme_n first_o because_o that_o council_n of_o which_o cyprian_n speak_v in_o that_o epistle_n do_v not_o first_o coin_n that_o opinion_n as_o mere_o their_o opinion_n depend_v 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most_o ordinance_n as_o to_o preach_v pray_v sacrament_n fast_v thanksgiving_n yet_o we_o leave_v the_o error_n doubt_v not_o of_o the_o institution_n and_o administration_n of_o those_o ordinance_n according_a thereunto_o 5._o mr_n t._n think_v that_o adult-baptisme_n may_v be_v sever_v from_o to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n 13._o word_n exercitat_fw-la §._o 17._o p._n 29._o l._n 13._o the_o pernicious_a error_n and_o mad_a fury_n of_o former_a anabaptist_n therefore_o may_v infant_n baptism_n be_v sever_v from_o some_o error_n that_o have_v accompany_v it_o 6._o if_o the_o error_n accompany_v infant-baptisme_n have_v make_v it_o doubtful_a to_o mr_n t._n so_o have_v the_o pernicious_a error_n and_o mad_a fury_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o former_a age_n which_o mr_n t._n have_v confess_v make_v their_o baptism_n doubtful_a to_o we_o mr_n t._n add_v in_o his_o 17._o 17._o exercitat_fw-la §._o 17._o sect_n of_o his_o exercitation_n towards_o the_o close_a of_o his_o 5._o argument_n that_o of_o old_a 1._o other_o invention_n of_o man_n under_o the_o name_n of_o apostolical_a tradition_n cause_v or_o attend_v infant-baptisme_n rather_o than_o any_o solid_a argument_n from_o scripture_n 2._o a_o wrong_n like_v of_o judaisme_n cause_v or_o attend_v infant-baptisme_n rather_o than_o any_o solid_a argument_n from_o scripture_n 3._o the_o use_v of_o it_o as_o a_o main_a argument_n against_o the_o pelagian_a heresy_n cause_v or_o attend_v infant-baptisme_n rather_o than_o any_o solid_a argument_n from_o scripture_n 4._o the_o mere_a authority_n of_o the_o council_n under_o cyprian_a the_o council_n of_o milevis_n augustine_n and_o jerome_n cause_v or_o attend_v infant-baptisme_n rather_o than_o any_o solid_a argument_n from_o scripture_n to_o the_o 1._o we_o shall_v answer_v in_o mr_n t._n his_o next_o argument_n in_o number_n the_o 6._o which_o be_v touch_v humane_a invention_n 2._o we_o have_v answer_v already_o indiscuss_v of_o the_o aforesaid_a antiquity_n 3._o we_o say_v now_o that_o we_o have_v produce_v sufficient_a proof_n afore_o out_o of_o approve_a antiquity_n that_o the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o infant_n baptism_n be_v common_a in_o the_o church_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n hundred_o of_o year_n before_o pelagianisme_n be_v know_v in_o the_o world_n see_v before_o all_o our_o 13._o chap._n and_o chap._n 14._o from_o the_o begin_n thereof_o to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o quotation_n of_o ambrose_n p._n 148._o 4._o we_o have_v answer_v afore_o chap._n 14._o last_o mr_n t._n add_v these_o word_n as_o the_o close_a of_o his_o five_o argument_n and_o section_n of_o his_o exercit._n 17._o exercita●_n §._o 17._o so_o in_o this_o last_o age_n say_v he_o some_o modern_a man_n seem_v to_o embrace_v this_o tenet_n of_o infant_n baptism_n out_o of_o horror_n of_o mind_n lest_o they_o shall_v go_v headlong_o into_o the_o pernicious_a error_n of_o former_a anabaptist_n and_o their_o mad_a fury_n or_o 2_o lest_o they_o shall_v seem_v to_o desert_n the_o lead_a man_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n or_o 3_o move_v trouble_n in_o the_o church_n rather_o then_o from_o perspicuous_a foundation_n in_o the_o scripture_n which_o they_o will_v think_v that_o i_o have_v not_o say_v as_o one_o that_o dream_n who_o shall_v read_v what_o robert_n lord_n brooke_n have_v in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o treatise_n concern_v episcopacy_n daniel_n rogers_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o baptism_n and_o other_o elsewhere_o we_o answer_v to_o the_o 1_o particular_a thus_o that_o the_o modern_a man_n can_v be_v just_o abhor_v animadver_n animadver_n for_o their_o horror_n of_o mind_n lest_o they_o shall_v by_o any_o tenet_n fall_v headlong_o into_o pernicious_a error_n and_o mad_a fury_n and_o if_o mr_n t._n do_v but_o approve_v his_o own_o seven_o argument_n for_o a_o right_a rule_n viz._n that_o which_o have_v occasion_v many_o error_n that_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a whether_o it_o be_v right_a etc._n etc._n then_o it_o will_v follow_v uncontradict_v by_o mr_n t._n that_o as_o he_o doubt_v of_o infant_n baptism_n because_o of_o error_n that_o have_v follow_v it_o so_o we_o doubt_v of_o adult_n baptism_n according_a to_o the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n because_o of_o the_o pernicious_a error_n and_o mad_a fury_n that_o have_v follow_v it_o chap._n it_o we_o shall_v give_v instance_n anon_o in_o the_o due_a place_n in_o answer_n to_o mr._n t._n his_o 6_o 7.8.9_o argument_n in_o our_o 13._o chap._n to_o the_o second_o particular_a we_o answer_v thus_o that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o convenient_a sudden_o to_o desert_n the_o lead_a man_n of_o reformation_n then_o in_o their_o debate_n before_o they_o have_v declare_v themselves_o and_o we_o mean_v while_o not_o engage_v necessary_o to_o practice_v against_o our_o conscience_n and_o in_o such_o point_n as_o will_v no_o way_n stand_v in_o the_o line_n of_o any_o concord_n so_o much_o as_o negative_o the_o church_n way_n or_o independency_n as_o they_o nick_v name_v it_o differ_v from_o the_o intend_a presbytery_n as_o we_o guess_v ungain_o in_o point_n of_o appeal_v especial_o in_o the_o manner_n of_o it_o which_o may_v breed_v no_o distraction_n in_o case_n particular_a church_n walk_v so_o wise_o as_o not_o to_o need_v appeal_n as_o some_o discreet_a parish_n do_v in_o the_o worset_n time_n of_o episcopal_a court_n rest_v in_o a_o song_n whereby_o to_o sing_v only_o when_o the_o concord_n will_v bear_v it_o and_o rest_n where_o not_o till_o they_o symphonise_v again_o do_v not_o mar_v but_o grace_v the_o harmony_n but_o whether_o anabaptism_n or_o catapaedobaptisme_n deny_v baptism_n to_o believer_n infant_n wherein_o the_o great_a part_n of_o a_o sad_a distract_a kingdom_n be_v interest_v will_v for_o the_o present_a so_o well_o fag_n i_o leave_v to_o mr_n t._n to_o make_v out_o which_o if_o he_o can_v it_o shall_v not_o be_v a_o sorrow_n to_o i_o we_o be_v unwilling_a indeed_o to_o admit_v those_o beleiver_n to_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n that_o will_v not_o some_o how_o intimate_a to_o we_o that_o they_o yield_v to_o a_o relation_n of_o pastor_n and_o flock_n between_o they_o and_o that_o minister_n of_o who_o they_o require_v that_o ordinance_n and_o to_o walk_v with_o we_o submissive_o to_o all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n till_o god_n provide_v better_o for_o they_o that_o we_o may_v know_v how_o they_o live_v as_o well_o as_o when_o they_o receive_v and_o be_v willing_a also_o to_o receive_v christian_a admonition_n where_o they_o live_v amiss_o but_o for_o baptise_v of_o beleiver_n infant_n several_a church_n of_o we_o do_v hold_v that_o we_o may_v baptise_v they_o though_o neither_o of_o those_o parent_n be_v of_o our_o particular_a church_n baptism_n as_o we_o conceive_v be_v but_o a_o admission_n into_o the_o universal_a visible_a church_n as_o those_o baptise_a matthew_n the_o 3._o the_o centurion_n act._n 10._o the_o gaoler_n act._n 16_o be_v baptise_a neither_o in_o a_o particular_a 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can_v see_v what_o m._n t._n mean_n in_o that_o darkness_n if_o he_o mean_v baptise_v of_o the_o mother_n have_v the_o child_n in_o her_o womb_n we_o have_v show_v afore_o that_o council_n have_v enact_v against_o it_o or_o what_o ever_o m._n t._n mean_n we_o know_v no_o allowance_n give_v to_o it_o by_o orthodox_n church_n to_o his_o four_o particular_a of_o baptise_v infant_n of_o uncertain_a progeny_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la that_o this_o can_v follow_v upon_o our_o tenet_n of_o baptise_v believer_n infant_n if_o other_o practice_n extend_v further_o it_o be_v the_o darkness_n and_o corruption_n of_o the_o time_n without_o our_o line_n and_o the_o line_n of_o scripture_n to_o his_o five_o particular_a exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la that_o they_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n who_o know_v not_o the_o lord_n nor_o ever_o perhaps_o will_v consent_v to_o the_o confession_n of_o his_o name_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la 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the_o care_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n 1_o tim._n 5.21_o c_o imposition_n of_o hand_n also_o be_v a_o certain_a solemn_a right_n or_o manner_n of_o pray_v of_o which_o the_o apostle_n here_o speak_v hebr._n 6.2_o for_o by_o this_o symbol_n or_o sign_n of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n they_o will_v approve_v that_o profession_n of_o faith_n which_o young_a youth_n come_v out_o of_o childhood_n do_v make_v therefore_o this_o place_n alone_o abundant_o testify_v that_o the_o original_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n come_v down_o from_o the_o apostle_n thus_o far_o these_o learned_a man_n word_n reason_n and_o scripture-proof_n see_v more_o in_o marlo_n on_o 1_o tim._n 5.21_o but_o we_o may_v not_o omit_v mr._n cotton_n because_o he_o be_v in_o such_o credit_n with_o mr._n tomb_n that_o he_o oft_o respective_o quote_v he_o as_o for_o himself_o in_o his_o exercit._n mr._n cotton_v word_n on_o hebr._n 6.2_o be_v these_o edit_n way_n of_o c●u_n of_o n.e._n chap._n 2._o p._n 27._o of_o 1_o edit_n there_o be_v that_o conceive_v &_o that_o not_o improbable_a that_o in_o ancient_a time_n the_o child_n baptize_v in_o the_o church_n be_v not_o receive_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n nor_o into_o the_o full_a fruition_n of_o all_o church-liberty_n until_o that_o they_o be_v grow_v up_o to_o year_n do_v public_o before_o the_o church_n profess_v their_o faith_n and_o ratify_v the_o covenant_n make_v for_o they_o in_o baptism_n and_o so_o be_v confirm_v as_o they_o call_v it_o in_o their_o church_n estate_n which_o be_v not_o do_v without_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o some_o judicious_a divine_n have_v conceive_v to_o be_v one_o cause_n why_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v reckon_v as_o one_o of_o the_o six_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a religion_n hebr._n 6.2_o for_o it_o can_v not_o be_v a_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a faith_n it_o must_v therefore_o be_v a_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o church_n estate_n and_o order_n now_o than_o if_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v ancient_o confirm_v in_o the_o full_a fruition_n of_o the_o church_n estate_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n than_o there_o be_v none_o of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n but_o have_v receive_v imposition_n of_o hand_n much_o more_o the_o ruling-elders_a who_o over_o and_o above_o the_o former_a be_v ordain_v to_o their_o public_a office_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o so_o have_v receive_v imposition_n of_o hand_n themselves_o they_o may_v more_o free_o lay_v hand_n on_o other_o so_o mr._n cotton_n by_o all_o this_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n by_o christ_n on_o these_o little_a child_n in_o the_o text_n afore_o quote_v matth._n 17._o mar._n 10._o luk._n 18._o according_a to_o the_o order_n set_v down_o by_o the_o apostle_n hebr._n 6.2_o do_v succeed_v and_o follow_v after_o their_o baptism_n as_o suppose_v and_o grant_v to_o be_v baptize_v afore_o obj._n but_o say_v the_o anabaptist_n it_o be_v in_o the_o text_n of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n that_o be_v of_o man_n like_o infant_n answ_n 1._o we_o hear_v afore_o how_o mr._n beza_n render_v it_o of_o these_o and_o the_o like_a as_o relate_v to_o little_a child_n and_o his_o grave_n and_o learned_a pious_a judgement_n be_v as_o much_o to_o be_v credit_v as_o any_o anabaptist_n in_o say_v it_o be_v so_o or_o so_o 2_o the_o greek_a author_n do_v oft_o take_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d such_o for_o hoc_fw-la this_o plaet_fw-la bud._n const_n plaet_fw-la 3_o if_o render_v such_o it_o be_v far_o more_o natural_a and_o not_o so_o far_o fetch_v to_o say_v of_o such_o little_a child_n of_o who_o the_o story_n be_v then_o of_o such_o man_n but_o fourthly_a come_v to_o reason_n christ_n mar._n 10.16_o speak_v of_o they_o who_o he_o take_v up_o in_o his_o arm_n vessius_fw-la pass_n vessius_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o arm_n luk._n 2.28_o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ulna_fw-la per_fw-la epenthesin_n literarum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o he_o take_v up_o not_o the_o man_n but_o the_o little_a child_n into_o his_o arm_n and_o lay_v his_o hand_n upon_o they_o and_o bless_v they_o therefore_o of_o they_o he_o speak_v and_o show_v that_o heaven_n and_o the_o blessing_n of_o heaven_n belong_v to_o they_o 5_o that_o by_o discourse_n upon_o this_o v._o 15._o whosoever_o shall_v not_o receive_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n as_o a_o little_a child_n shall_v not_o enter_v therein_o be_v also_o for_o we_o for_o the_o thing_n and_o the_o comparison_n must_v agree_v in_o the_o main_a scope_n but_o man_n must_v as_o little_a child_n receive_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n therefore_o little_a child_n be_v in_o a_o
pet._n 2.9_o examine_v which_o thing_n be_v say_v of_o the_o israelite_n exod._n 19_o 〈◊〉_d 6._o therefore_o believer_n of_o the_o nation_n obtain_v the_o same_o birth_n privilege_n which_o the_o israelite_n have_v and_o therefore_o the_o child_n be_v within_o the_o covenant_n and_o to_o be_v baptize_v as_o the_o child_n of_o the_o israelite_n be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v mr_n t._n his_o answer_n be_v first_o if_o this_o argument_n proceed_v it_o will_v follow_v that_o there_o be_v some_o nationall_n church_n among_o the_o gentile_n as_o of_o old_a among_o the_o jew_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v grant_v which_o i_o will_v have_v understand_v in_o this_o sense_n there_o be_v now_o no_o such_o nationall-church_n as_o among_o the_o israeliet_n so_o as_o that_o a_o person_n shall_v be_v account_v a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n in_o that_o he_o be_v a_o englishman_n sco●_n dutchman_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o speech_n joppose_v not_o they_o which_o affirm_v note_n note_n the_o outward_a government_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v subject_a to_o nationall_n synod_n second_o exod._n 19.5_o 6._o god_n speak_v not_o of_o a_o privilege_n flow_v from_o birth_n but_o obedience_n three_o the_o epistle_n be_v write_v to_o the_o disperse_a jew_n and_o therefore_o the_o argument_n lie_v liable_a to_o exception_n when_o it_o be_v draw_v from_o that_o which_o be_v say_v of_o the_o jew_n as_o if_o it_o be_v say_v of_o the_o gentile_n four_o the_o sense_n be_v you_o which_o believe_v ver_fw-la 7._o who_o god_n have_v call_v out_o of_o darkness_n be_v a_o holy_a nation_n whither_o jew_n or_o gentile_n by_o spiritual_a regeneration_n as_o believer_n be_v call_v a_o family_n or_o kindred_n ephess_n 3.15_o the_o household_n of_o faith_n gal._n 6.10_o the_o house_n of_o god_n 1_o tim._n 3.15_o a_o people_n 1_o pet._n 2.10_o wherefore_o in_o this_o family_n kindred_n house_n people_n be_v only_a believer_n who_o not_o carnal_a birth_n but_o spiritual_a cause_v to_o be_v reckon_v in_o that_o number_n we_o reply_v animadver_n animadver_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o first_o particular_a thus_o the_o argument_n in_o my_o eye_n do_v not_o proceed_v to_o suppose_v some_o nationall_n church_n among_o the_o gentile_n for_o it_o do_v not_o say_v the_o nation_n of_o believer_n but_o the_o believer_n of_o nation_n obtain_v the_o same_o birth_n privilege_n beside_o it_o recite_v a_o text_n write_v to_o the_o jew_n who_o be_v scatter_v from_o be_v a_o formal_a nation_n throughout_o pontus_n galatia_n cappadocia_n asia_n and_o bythinia_n chap._n 1._o v._n 1._o and_o when_o they_o be_v a_o formal_a nation_n a_o person_n be_v not_o count_v a_o member_n of_o that_o church_n quatenus_fw-la ipsum_fw-la precise_o as_o he_o be_v a_o jew_n but_o as_o he_o be_v circumcise_v or_o the_o infant_n of_o one_o circumcise_a and_o so_o to_o be_v circumcise_v also_o a_o jew_n be_v cut_v off_o if_o not_o circumcise_v according_a to_o the_o institution_n to_o abrabraham_n gen._n 17._o and_o a_o gentile_a though_o a_o gentile_a be_v a_o member_n of_o that_o church_n if_o circumcise_v ibid._n gen._n 17._o just_o as_o a_o englishman_n as_o a_o englishman_n be_v not_o reckon_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n or_o church_n in_o england_n if_o unfit_a to_o be_v baptise_a but_o keep_v out_o or_o a_o damnable_a heretic_n after_o baptism_n but_o be_v cast_v out_o or_o if_o one_o be_v not_o the_o infant_n of_o one_o baptize_v though_o mr_n tomb_n seem_v to_o oppose_v nationall_n church_n yet_o he_o set_v they_o up_o thus_o far_o wherein_o those_o of_o his_o judgement_n in_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n i_o mean_v the_o anabaptist_n will_v not_o approve_v mr_n tomb_n that_o the_o outward_a government_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v subject_a to_o nationall_n synod_n nor_o will_v mr_n tomb_n please_v himself_o with_o the_o direct_a inference_n that_o will_v follow_v from_o his_o express_a word_n which_o inference_n be_v this_o that_o if_o a_o nationall_n synod_n in_o england_n shall_v determine_v that_o infant_n of_o believer_n shall_v be_v baptize_v while_o infant_n mr._n t._n must_v subject_a to_o it_o and_o lay_v down_o all_o his_o exercitat_fw-la examination_n and_o appendix_n against_o the_o baptise_v of_o believer_n infant_n as_o labour_v in_o vain_a cancel_v writing_n a_o old_a almanac_n for_o mr_n tomb_n have_v not_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o so_o great_a consequence_n reserve_v to_o himself_o by_o any_o express_v here_o so_o much_o as_o this_o exception_n that_o he_o will_v not_o submit_v in_o case_n they_o determine_v contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n in_o his_o judgement_n but_o that_o he_o will_v have_v his_o liberty_n to_o stand_v out_o against_o the_o determination_n if_o any_o can_v at_o the_o first_o sight_n of_o this_o sudden_o divine_a and_o edict_n by_o proclamation_n that_o this_o exception_n be_v suppose_v it_o may_v be_v as_o sudden_o and_o rational_o argue_v back_o again_o that_o this_o will_v have_v be_v soon_o understand_v of_o the_o vulgar_a and_o ready_a be_v believe_v of_o the_o wise_a if_o it_o have_v be_v here_o express_v but_o if_o they_o will_v have_v it_o suppose_v than_o the_o question_n will_v be_v first_o whether_o mr_n t._n according_a to_o his_o design_n have_v prevent_v all_o offence_n to_o any_o of_o who_o he_o will_v be_v right_o understand_v touch_v nationall_n synod_n second_o what_o great_a thing_n have_v he_o say_v than_o divers_a other_o with_o who_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o for_o aught_o i_o know_v close_o in_o point_n of_o church-government_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o second_o reply_n touch_v exod._n 19.6_o that_o the_o place_n be_v speak_v to_o the_o parent_n suppose_v upon_o condition_n of_o obedience_n do_v no_o way_n infringe_v that_o the_o child_n of_o those_o obedient_a parent_n shall_v be_v count_v of_o that_o holy_a nation_n that_o be_v among_o the_o repute_a holy_a of_o that_o nation_n witness_v their_o circumcision_n and_o their_o no-capacity_n of_o disobedience_n to_o the_o three_o particular_a we_o reply_v that_o this_o epistle_n be_v write_v to_o the_o disperse_a jew_n lean_v pron_o for_o application_n to_o the_o gentile-beleever_n that_o though_o they_o be_v as_o a_o disperse_a people_n among_o the_o unchristian_a christian_n called-nation_n yet_o their_o infant_n with_o they_o be_v to_o be_v account_v indefinite_o holy_a as_o the_o child_n of_o circumcise_a jew_n be_v count_v holy_a to_o mr_n t._n his_o four_o particular_a we_o reply_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o it_o that_o do_v evince_v that_o the_o child_n of_o the_o regenerate_v shall_v not_o be_v account_v federal_o among_o the_o believe_a gentile_n of_o the_o more_o more_o glorious_a new_a testament_n as_o among_o the_o jew_n under_o the_o shadow_a old_a testament_n six_o it_o will_v be_v answer_v say_v m._n t._n that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la fail_v not_o examine_v §_o 13._o the_o argument_n from_o the_o church_n sail_v if_o infant-baptsme_a be_v not_o lawful_a examine_v but_o we_o must_v say_v the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v fail_v if_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o lawful_a ergo._n mr_n t._n answ_n 1._o the_o church_n of_o god_n may_v consist_v without_o baptism_n as_o in_o the_o crucify_v convert_v thief_n etc._n etc._n second_o neither_o perhaps_o be_v it_o necessary_a to_o be_v say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n because_o not_o lawful_a be_v therefore_o incumbent_a three_o there_o be_v in_o the_o church_n baptism_n of_o person_n grow_v in_o all_o age_n ludou._n vives_z in_o his_o comment_n upon_o aug._n de_fw-fr civit._n dei_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 27._o have_v these_o word_n no_o man_n of_o old_a be_v bring_v unto_o the_o place_n of_o holy_a baptism_n unless_o he_o be_v of_o grow_v age_n already_o and_o when_o the_o same_o person_n know_v what_o that_o mystical_a water_n mean_v and_o desire_v to_o be_v wash_v in_o it_o and_o that_o more_o than_o once_o a_o image_n of_o which_o thing_n we_o see_v yet_o in_o our_o baptism_n of_o 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ratify_v their_o covenant_n make_v in_o baptism_n and_o so_o be_v confirm_v in_o their_o church_n estate_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v therefore_o reckon_v one_o of_o the_o six_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a faith_n heb._n 6.2_o for_o it_o can_v not_o be_v a_o principle_n of_o faith_n it_o must_v be_v therefore_o a_o principle_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o church-estate_n and_o order_n so_o mr_n cotton_n with_o much_o more_o before_o recite_v chap._n 7._o now_o let_v the_o world_n judge_n whether_o these_o man_n reading_n and_o reason_n or_o mr_n tomb_n his_o strain_a gloss_n give_v we_o rightly_o the_o meaning_n of_o heb._n 6.2_o to_o mr_n t._n his_o second_o answ_n we_o reply_v first_o that_o the_o learned_a man_n afore_o quote_v give_v we_o the_o sum_n of_o antiquity_n charitatem_fw-la antiquity_n tertul_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la dehinc_fw-la manus_fw-la imponitur_fw-la per_fw-la benedictionem_fw-la etc._n etc._n 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from_o that_o day_n we_o abstain_v from_o wash_v in_o the_o common_a laver_n or_o place_n of_o wash_v for_o a_o whole_a week_n thus_o far_o mr_n tomb_n his_o place_n of_o tertullian_n now_o let_v the_o reader_n weigh_v all_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o place_n and_o judge_v whether_o turtullian_n here_o allude_v to_o any_o scripture_n authority_n or_o to_o any_o approve_a antiquity_n 2._o such_o a_o place_n of_o tertullian_n that_o do_v not_o prove_v the_o thing_n mr_n tomb_n intend_v for_o he_o well_o know_v that_o sub_fw-la manu_fw-la be_v a_o phrase_n that_o have_v so_o many_o sense_n as_o it_o be_v no_o way_n certain_a that_o here_o sub_fw-la manu_fw-la under_o the_o hand_n signify_v imposition_n of_o hand_n haply_o it_o may_v rather_o signify_v the_o minister_n lift_v up_o of_o his_o hand_n in_o prayer_n as_o pacianus_n have_v it_o we_o obtain_v say_v he_o in_o prayer_n pardon_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n in_o baptism_n by_o the_o mouth_n and_o hand_n of_o the_o antistes_fw-la touch_v mr_n t._n his_o quotation_n of_o chamier_n pan_n cathol_n tom_fw-mi 4._o l._n 4._o c._n 11._o sect._n 14._o we_o give_v the_o world_n this_o account_n that_o we_o have_v run_v over_o and_o that_o twice_o that_o 14_o section_n with_o as_o many_o more_o follow_v to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n as_o make_v up_o that_o 14_o to_o be_v 59_o and_o we_o find_v but_o four_o quotation_n touch_v imposition_n of_o hand_n all_o which_o serve_v little_a to_o mr_n t._n his_o purpose_n the_o first_o be_v in_o sect._n 23._o quote_v out_o of_o areopag_n and_o be_v this_o after_o question_v and_o profession_n he_o put_v his_o hand_n upon_o his_o head_n and_o command_v he_o be_v consign_v to_o be_v enroll_v or_o number_v among_o the_o priest_n &_o after_o other_o ceremony_n put_v he_o into_o a_o certain_a garment_n and_o anoint_v he_o with_o oil_n be_v this_o supposition_n areopagite_n problem_n areopagite_n mitto_fw-la arcopagiram_n hier._n eccles_n clementem_fw-la rom._n constitut_n apostol_n ne_n libri_fw-la isti_fw-la corum_fw-la sunt_fw-la quibus_fw-la tribuuntur_fw-la vulgo_fw-la jo._n voss_n thes_n theol._n &_o hist_n see_v also_o perkins_n prepar_fw-la to_o they_o of_o the_o problem_n a_o author_n of_o credit_n and_o free_a from_o the_o ceremonious_a foolery_n here_o mention_v yet_o the_o baptism_n here_o mentìon_v be_v of_o one_o of_o ripe_a year_n at_o which_o time_n unbeliever_n child_n have_v the_o first_o seal_n to_o who_o this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v apply_v rather_o to_o make_v he_o a_o priest_n as_o we_o conceive_v by_o the_o word_n then_o to_o accompany_v baptism_n the_o second_o be_v of_o the_o same_o hogge-sty_n leo_n the_o first_o and_o rather_o against_o mr_n tomb_n if_o any_o say_v he_o shall_v be_v baptize_v by_o a_o heretic_n he_o be_v not_o to_o iterate_v that_o sacrament_n but_o only_o that_o to_o be_v confer_v which_o be_v want_v that_o by_o episcopal_a imposition_n of_o hand_n he_o may_v obtain_v the_o virtue_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n here_o imposition_n of_o hand_n follow_v baptism_n at_o distance_n which_o be_v for_o we_o the_o three_o be_v out_o of_o cyprian_a viz._n it_o be_v to_o small_a purpose_n to_o impose_v hand_n on_o heretic_n to_o receive_v the_o holy_a spirit_n unless_o they_o receive_v the_o church_n baptism_n here_o imposition_n of_o hand_n presuppose_v precedent_a baptism_n though_o in_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n the_o four_o be_v out_o of_o a_o false-named_n 〈◊〉_d false-named_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o a_o forge_a eusebius_n as_o chamier_n call_v he_o in_o his_o first_o decretal_a know_v you_o that_o those_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v in_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o sacred_a trinity_n we_o receive_v or_o undertake_v for_o by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n if_o this_o fellow_n be_v of_o any_o credit_n he_o be_v for_o we_o not_o against_o we_o thus_o few_o do_v chamier_n quote_v touch_v imposition_n of_o hand_n because_o his_o design_n be_v chief_o to_o pursue_v the_o dispute_n of_o the_o other_o part_n of_o confirmation_n as_o he_o call_v it_o
all_o rather_o judge_v that_o the_o mercy_n and_o grace_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v deny_v to_o none_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o man_n by_o the_o answer_n of_o augustine_n to_o bonifacius_n tom._n 2._o epist_n 23._o inquire_v concern_v the_o truth_n of_o surety_n in_o affirm_v the_o unknown_a faith_n of_o little_a one_o and_o promise_v for_o they_o it_o will_v appear_v to_o the_o reader_n that_o the_o baptism_n of_o any_o little_a one_o offer_v to_o baptism_n be_v defend_v by_o he_o although_o they_o be_v not_o bring_v that_o they_o may_v be_v regenerate_v to_o eternal_a life_n by_o spiritual_a grace_n but_o because_o they_o think_v by_o this_o remedy_n i_o use_v the_o word_n of_o augustine_n to_o retain_v or_o receive_v temporal_a health_n john_n gerhard_n loc._n theolog._n tom._n 4._o de_fw-fr baptis_n cap._n 7._o sect._n 4._o defend_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o ancient_n baptise_v the_o child_n of_o unbeliever_n and_o the_o word_n of_o mr_n samuel_n rutherford_n scot_n in_o his_o book_n late_o put_v forth_o in_o the_o english_a tongue_n entitle_v a_o peaceable_a and_o temperate_a plea_n c._n 12._o arg_n 7._o seem_v to_o i_o to_o propend_v too_o much_o to_o this_o opinion_n the_o word_n be_v these_o if_o then_o the_o jew_n in_o paul_n time_n be_v holy_a by_o covenant_n howbeit_o for_o the_o present_a the_o son_n be_v branch_n break_v off_o for_o unbelief_n much_o more_o see_v god_n have_v choose_v the_o race_n and_o nation_n of_o the_o gentile_n and_o be_v become_v a_o god_n to_o we_o and_o to_o our_o seed_n the_o seed_n must_v be_v holy_a with_o holiness_n of_o the_o choose_a nation_n and_o holiness_n external_a of_o the_o covenant_n notwithstanding_o the_o father_n and_o mother_n be_v as_o wicked_a as_o the_o jew_n who_o slay_v the_o lord_n of_o glory_n and_o the_o grave_a confutation_n of_o brownist_n by_o rathband_n part._n 3._o page_n 50._o four_o child_n may_v be_v lawful_o admit_v to_o baptism_n though_o both_o their_o parent_n be_v profane_a if_o those_o who_o be_v instead_o of_o parent_n to_o they_o do_v require_v baptism_n for_o they_o and_o give_v their_o promise_n to_o the_o church_n for_o their_o religious_a education_n see_v they_o may_v lawful_o be_v account_v within_o god_n covenant_n if_o any_o of_o their_o ancestor_n in_o any_o generation_n be_v faithful_a exod._n 20.5_o last_o if_o this_o argument_n be_v not_o of_o force_n christ_n command_v first_o to_o disciple_n and_o then_o to_o baptize_v those_o that_o be_v discipule_v to_o exclude_v infant_n from_o baptism_n neither_o will_v the_o argument_n be_v of_o force_n from_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o let_v a_o man_n examine_v himself_o and_o so_o let_v he_o eat_v to_o exclude_v infant_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n for_o by_o the_o like_a clusion_n this_o argument_n may_v be_v reject_v by_o say_v that_o the_o speech_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o exclusive_a and_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n by_o person_n grow_v only_o yea_o very_o neither_o will_v the_o argument_n be_v of_o force_n from_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o supper_n mat._n 26.26_o 27._o therefore_o only_a believer_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n if_o any_o reply_n but_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 10._o and_o 11._o have_v declare_v that_o the_o institution_n be_v exclusive_a the_o fame_n may_v be_v say_v of_o the_o institution_n of_o baptism_n from_o the_o follow_a argument_n to_o this_o second_o argument_n of_o mr_n t._n out_o of_o mat._n 28.19_o for_o the_o affirmative_a animadver_n animadver_n that_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n only_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v the_o other_o be_v only_o negative_a to_o put_v off_o argument_n for_o child_n baptism_n i_o say_v that_o i_o very_o expect_v mr_n t._n will_v not_o have_v urge_v it_o so_o curted_o careless_o or_o so_o scatter_o curt_o for_o he_o speak_v so_o abrupt_o touch_v the_o business_n of_o bishop_n fidus_n p._n 25._o that_o i_o can_v hardly_o divine_a what_o his_o meaning_n be_v i_o conjecture_v this_o answer_n will_v serve_v 1._o that_o god_n himself_o put_v the_o cause_n and_o make_v the_o premise_n wide_a than_o the_o effect_n or_o conclusion_n 2_o pet._n 3.9_o 1_o tim._n 2.4_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o warrant_v we_o to_o apply_v comfort_n or_o seal_n to_o all_o 2._o that_o cyprian_n in_o all_o likelihood_n speak_v to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n that_o as_o circumcision_n be_v not_o deny_v to_o any_o child_n of_o jewish_a parent_n that_o be_v member_n of_o that_o church_n so_o baptism_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v to_o any_o so_o bear_v of_o man_n that_o be_v be_v the_o child_n of_o parent_n repute_v true_a member_n of_o the_o church_n careless_o for_o first_o he_o say_v p._n 24._o john_n 4.2_o where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o jesus_n make_v more_o disciple_n then_o that_o he_o baptize_v first_o it_o be_v say_v that_o he_o make_v disciple_n then_o baptize_v so_o mr_n t._n now_o we_o must_v needs_o say_v that_o here_o be_v a_o gross_a falsehood_n for_o that_o text_n john_n 4.2_o say_v express_o jesus_n baptize_v none_o at_o all_o second_o mr._n t._n say_v p._n 24._o the_o ordinary_n rule_n be_v make_v disciple_n that_o be_v by_o preach_v the_o gospel_n make_v disciple_n as_o appear_v mark_n 16.15_o and_o baptise_v they_o to_o wit_n who_o you_o have_v make_v disciple_n so_o mr_n t._n here_o yet_o in_o another_o place_n of_o his_o exercitation_n mr._n t._n do_v not_o forget_v but_o confess_v that_o mar._n 16.15_o be_v not_o make_v disciple_n but_o only_o preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o so_o mark_n make_v not_o more_o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d make_v disciple_n as_o the_o anabaptist_n will_v have_v it_o but_o only_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d preach_v the_o gospel_n scatter_o not_o only_a flote_a so_o much_o paper_n with_o the_o ink_n of_o syllogism_n under_o syllogism_n and_o argument_n under_o syllogism_n as_o if_o mat._n 28.19_o do_v not_o indeed_o in_o any_o show_n serve_v his_o turn_n without_o much_o lift_n but_o also_o in_o scatter_v such_o speech_n to_o the_o great_a disgrace_n of_o anabaptism_n for_o mr_n t._n say_v p._n 25._o that_o augustine_n be_v wont_a to_o take_v out_o his_o proof_n for_o in-infant-baptisme_n in_o his_o disputation_n against_o the_o pelagian_o from_o cyprian_n 59_o epistle_n to_o fidus._n so_o that_o by_o this_o mr_n t._n confess_v that_o the_o pelagian_o of_o old_a be_v the_o man_n that_o deny_v infant-baptisme_n which_o bring_v to_o mind_v that_o great_a james_n arminius_n be_v a_o anabaptist_n who_o have_v that_o and_o other_o dangerous_a principle_n from_o that_o unsound_a castalio_n 137_o mr_n g._n philip_n his_o reply_n and_o to_o t._n lamb._n p._n 137_o and_o that_o of_o master_n george_n fillip_v of_o water_n town_n in_o new-england_n that_o the_o first_o that_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n and_o oppose_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o this_o case_n be_v one_o auxentius_n a_o arrian_n with_o his_o adherent_n that_o deny_v the_o godhead_n of_o christ_n who_o die_v about_o 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be_v without_o and_o not_o of_o the_o faith_n not_o of_o the_o church_n we_o speak_v not_o for_o the_o use_n of_o witness_n or_o godfather_n etc._n etc._n in_o baptise_v child_n as_o the_o wont_a be_v among_o we_o but_o second_o that_o this_o ancient_a custom_n as_o ancient_a at_o least_o as_o tertullian_n may_v possible_o have_v some_o respect_n to_o the_o scripture_n gen._n 17._o according_a to_o mr._n cotton_v observation_n 115._o his_o book_n of_o the_o way_n of_o the_o church_n in_o n._n england_n pag._n 115._o baptism_n say_v he_o may_v orderly_o be_v administer_v to_o the_o child_n of_o such_o parent_n as_o have_v profess_v their_o faith_n and_o repentance_n before_o the_o church_n or_o where_o either_o of_o the_o parent_n have_v make_v such_o profession_n or_o it_o may_v be_v consider_v also_o whether_o the_o child_n may_v not_o be_v baptize_v where_o either_o the_o grandfather_n or_o grandmother_n have_v make_v such_o profession_n and_o be_v still_o live_v to_o undertake_v for_o the_o christian_a education_n of_o the_o child_n for_o it_o may_v be_v conceive_v where_o there_o be_v a_o stipulation_n of_o the_o covenant_n on_o god_n part_n and_o a_o restipulation_n on_o man_n part_n he_o so_o m._n grcenham_n also_o see_v his_o work_n where_o he_o say_v the_o child_n of_o unbelieved_a parent_n be_v within_o the_o covenant_n by_o virtue_n of_o their_o believe_a grandfather_n or_o else_o how_o be_v god_n the_o god_n of_o their_o seed_n to_o show_v mercy_n to_o thousand_o of_o generation_n of_o they_o that_o love_v he_o there_o may_v be_v a_o obligation_n of_o the_o covenant_n on_o both_o part_n gen._n 17.7_o or_o if_o these_o fail_v what_o hinder_v but_o that_o if_o the_o parent_n will_v resign_v their_o infant_n to_o be_v educate_v in_o the_o house_n of_o any_o godly_a member_n of_o the_o church_n the_o child_n may_v be_v lawful_o baptize_v in_o the_o right_n of_o its_o household_n governor_n according_a to_o the_o proportion_n of_o the_o law_n gen._n 17_o 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that_o erasmus_n in_o his_o censure_n of_o the_o homily_n on_o leviticus_n say_v that_o a_o man_n can_v be_v certain_a whether_o he_o read_v ruffinus_n or_o origen_n and_o perkins_n put_v among_o origen_n counterfeit_a work_v his_o commentary_n on_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n as_o be_v not_o faithful_o translate_v by_o ruffinus_n 1_o as_o we_o confess_v there_o be_v some_o error_n in_o origen_n and_o in_o who_o not_o so_o there_o be_v many_o learned_a animadver_n animadver_n pious_a and_o most_o spiritual_a thing_n precious_a gospel_n truth_n such_o as_o i_o have_v admire_v when_o i_o read_v they_o consider_v those_o dark_a time_n in_o so_o much_o as_o many_o now_o call_v preacher_n of_o the_o gospel_n may_v go_v to_o origen_n if_o they_o have_v but_o the_o spirit_n of_o discern_a to_o learn_v to_o be_v gospel-preacher_n 2_o if_o mr_n t._n make_v these_o exception_n against_o origen_n why_o i_o say_v why_o do_v mr_n t._n urge_v origen_n for_o himself_o in_o his_o five_o argument_n in_o his_o exercitation_n as_o we_o hear_v afore_o true_o a_o man_n can_v hardly_o with_o patience_n enough_o look_v upon_o mr_n t._n his_o deal_n in_o this_o when_o we_o urge_v three_o place_n out_o of_o origen_n which_o you_o have_v before_o quote_v and_o translate_v and_o former_o urge_v by_o mr_n m._n for_o the_o ancient_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o baptise_v infant_n than_o m._n t._n bespatter_v origen_n as_o you_o hear_v and_o origen_n be_v not_o origen_n with_o he_o but_o if_o mr_n t._n urge_v but_o one_o only_a place_n of_o origen_n to_o blast_v infant-baptisme_n with_o the_o scar_n of_o tradition_n and_o to_o contradict_v all_o approve_a antiquity_n afore_o then_o origen_n must_v be_v receive_v or_o else_o to_o what_o purpose_n do_v m._n t._n allege_v he_o urge_v no_o other_o by_o which_o to_o pretend_v infant-baptism_n to_o be_v a_o tradition_n 3_o master_n t._n have_v nothing_o to_o say_v against_o origen_n on_o luke_n and_o therefore_o he_o intimate_v a_o acknowledgement_n of_o one_o place_n urge_v by_o we_o from_o origen_n to_o stand_v good_a 4_o we_o give_v you_o all_o the_o place_n out_o of_o origen_n as_o translate_v into_o latin_a by_o hieronimus_fw-la as_o the_o best_a edition_n promise_v we_o 5_o perkins_n his_o note_v origen_n commentary_n on_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n as_o not_o faithful_o translate_v by_o ruffinus_n do_v not_o conclude_v it_o to_o be_v a_o counterfeit_a work_n 6._o if_o ruffinus_n do_v say_v he_o add_v many_o thing_n of_o his_o own_o in_o the_o translation_n of_o origen_n on_o the_o roman_n and_o leviticus_n for_o there_o be_v nothing_o say_v of_o luke_n sure_o he_o will_v not_o confess_v he_o have_v destroy_v the_o sense_n of_o origen_n or_o make_v he_o speak_v that_o he_o never_o mean_v this_o be_v to_o suppose_v ruffinus_n will_v disgrace_v himself_o under_o his_o own_o hand_n but_o mr_n t._n
by_o they_o in_o many_o author_n mention_v this_o be_v to_o i_o and_o it_o seem_v to_o hugo_n grotius_n annot_n in_o matth._n 19.14_o no_o small_a evidence_n that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n many_o hundred_o year_n be_v not_o ordinary_a in_o the_o greek_a church_n grotius_n add_v that_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o synod_n of_o neo-caesarea_n in_o the_o year_n 313._o determine_v that_o a_o woman_n with_o child_n may_v be_v baptize_v because_o the_o baptism_n reach_v not_o to_o the_o fruit_n of_o her_o womb_n because_o in_o the_o confession_n make_v in_o baptism_n each_o once_o free_a choice_n be_v show_v we_o answer_v first_o that_o this_o seem_v not_o otherwise_o to_o i_o but_z as_o the_o confession_n of_o sin_n animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la and_o profession_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n by_o they_o that_o at_o the_o first_o institution_n of_o baptism_n be_v baptize_v at_o ripe_a year_n do_v not_o imply_v but_o that_o baptism_n descend_v to_o their_o child_n while_o child_n yea_o so_o much_o the_o rather_o because_o the_o parent_n be_v baptize_v the_o promise_n then_o be_v actual_o instate_v on_o they_o 2._o act_n 2._o the_o promise_n to_o you_o and_o to_o your_o child_n even_o just_a so_o may_v we_o say_v of_o those_o question_n put_v to_o the_o baptize_v and_o answer_v by_o they_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n for_o though_o be_v gentile_n the_o parent_n at_o first_o be_v to_o make_v confession_n as_o a_o token_n of_o their_o conversion_n from_o hethenisme_n before_o their_o baptism_n yet_o this_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o argue_v that_o their_o child_n must_v be_v able_a to_o make_v confession_n before_o they_o be_v baptize_v no_o more_o than_o the_o circumcision_n of_o abraham_n and_o the_o stranger_n be_v buy_v with_o money_n when_o they_o be_v believer_n of_o ripe_a year_n do_v infer_v that_o all_o christ_n child_n from_o age_n to_o age_n shall_v not_o be_v circumcise_v till_o they_o be_v so_o too_o 2._o touch_v grotius_n we_o answer_v four_o thing_n 1._o that_o he_o in_o discuss_v the_o point_n on_o matth._n 19.14_o touch_v infant-baptisme_n allege_v diverse_a thing_n to_o show_v that_o some_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n in_o several_a age_n do_v not_o baptize_v their_o infant_n but_o have_v no_o such_o passage_n as_o that_o infant-baptisme_n be_v not_o ordinary_a in_o the_o greek_a church_n 2._o in_o all_o he_o allege_v touch_v this_o he_o say_v not_o to_o the_o contraty_n but_o that_o the_o non-baptizing_a of_o some_o infant_n may_v be_v because_o their_o greek_a parent_n be_v not_o convert_v from_o gentilism_n 3._o for_o that_o neocaesarian_a synod_n another_o synod_n of_o which_o there_o be_v many_o edition_n vary_v one_o from_o another_o the_o cause_n and_o intent_n of_o it_o in_o part_n at_o least_o may_v be_v as_o be_v intimate_v afore_o out_o of_o clem._n alexand._n a_o greek_a who_o flourish_v long_o before_o the_o neocaesarian_a synod_n and_o therefore_o likely_a this_o synod_n will_v have_v respect_n to_o he_o tertul_n he_o and_o to_o tertullian_n of_o the_o same_o time_n with_o clem._n who_o have_v to_o the_o same_o effect_n as_o clem._n tertulli_n lib._n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la chap._n 39_o 40._o of_o which_o afore_o chap._n 13._o of_o animad_fw-la vid._n in_o mark_fw-mi tertul_n to_o wit_n that_o though_o by_o the_o baptismal_a wash_n of_o the_o parent_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o promise_n i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n and_o the_o promise_n be_v to_o you_o and_o to_o your_o child_n the_o seed_n of_o that_o parent_n be_v account_v holy_a yet_o so_o as_o not_o to_o anticipate_v and_o prevent_v the_o baptise_v of_o that_o seed_n when_o it_o be_v bear_v 4._o grotius_n himself_o intimated_o confess_v that_o interpreter_n do_v take_v the_o word_n of_o that_o synod_n otherwise_o then_o to_o intend_v against_o infant-baptisme_n 5._o for_o grotius_n his_o own_o opinion_n it_o be_v clear_a and_o full_a for_o infant-baptisme_n upon_o that_o 19_o of_o matth._n ver_fw-la 14._o who_o allege_v and_o assert_n these_o particular_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v grateful_a to_o christ_n that_o little_a child_n shall_v be_v bring_v to_o he_o as_o the_o design_v once_o of_o holiness_n and_o so_o of_o salvation_n according_a to_o tertullia_n expression_n 2._o that_o according_a to_o irenaeus_n christ_n pass_v through_o every_o age_n he_o become_v a_o infant_n to_o sanctify_v infant_n a_o little_a child_n to_o sanctify_v they_o of_o that_o age_n etc._n etc._n 3._o that_o upon_o this_o text_n of_o christ_n receive_v little_a one_o etc._n etc._n among_o other_o ground_n do_v say_v grotius_n lean_v the_o practice_n of_o baptise_v little_o one_o and_o infant_n 4._o that_o in_o augustine_n time_n say_v he_o it_o be_v a_o common_a neceive_v practice_n to_o baptize_v infant_n as_o be_v clear_a by_o this_o that_o when_o the_o pelagian_o hold_v some_o how_o against_o infant-baptisme_n be_v press_v with_o this_o argument_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o all_o church_n in_o baptise_v infant_n they_o dare_v not_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v true_a 5._o that_o by_o hierom_n and_o augustine_n quotation_n of_o cyprian_n epistle_n to_o fidus_n it_o be_v clear_a say_v grotius_n that_o it_o be_v not_o doubt_v in_o cyprian_n time_n whether_o infant_n may_v be_v baptize_v but_o only_o some_o stuck_n at_o this_o whether_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v afore_o they_o be_v eight_o day_n old_a and_o it_o be_v determine_v in_o a_o council_n then_o whereof_o cyprian_n be_v one_o that_o baptism_n shall_v not_o be_v deny_v to_o infant_n new_o bear_v if_o they_o be_v offer_v thereunto_o 6._o grotius_n say_v that_o in_o a_o ancient_a book_n entitle_v the_o constitution_n of_o clement_n it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n baptise_v your_o infant_n also_o then_o train_v they_o up_o in_o the_o instruction_n and_o nurture_n of_o the_o lord_n 7._o grotius_n have_v quote_v something_n out_o of_o that_o synod_n of_o balsamo_n and_o zonanas_n walafridus_n strabo_n etc._n etc._n that_o in_o many_o age_n all_o infant_n have_v not_o be_v baptize_v he_o conclude_v but_o say_v he_o as_o those_o thing_n hold_v forth_o a_o liberty_n antiquity_n and_o difference_n of_o custom_n so_o they_o bring_v nothing_o to_o prove_v why_o infant-baptisme_n shall_v be_v reject_v when_o their_o parent_n etc._n etc._n offer_v they_o to_o be_v consecrate_v with_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o vow_n of_o pious_a education_n of_o they_o which_o among_o other_o thing_n be_v not_o unfit_o signify_v in_o baptism_n neither_o ought_v that_o to_o be_v any_o hindrance_n to_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n that_o all_o thing_n which_o in_o like_a manner_n be_v signify_v by_o baptism_n can_v agree_v proper_o to_o that_o age_n for_o repentance_n also_o which_o we_o know_v be_v signify_v in_o baptism_n and_o indeed_o have_v a_o great_a place_n in_o they_o that_o have_v long_o live_v a_o most_o impure_a life_n testify_v their_o purpose_n of_o change_v their_o whole_a conversation_n then_o in_o other_o have_v no_o place_n at_o all_o in_o christ_n when_o john_n baptize_v he_o who_o as_o tertullian_n say_v be_v not_o baptize_v as_o any_o debtor_n to_o repentance_n 8._o grotius_n quote_v the_o author_n of_o the_o qu._n ad_fw-la orthodox_n who_o mr._n t._n have_v so_o be-bastarded_n afore_o i_o say_v grotius_n quote_v he_o as_o a_o worthy_a author_n cite_v these_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n infant_n be_v count_v meet_v for_o good_a thing_n by_o baptism_n by_o mean_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o they_o that_o bring_v they_o 9_o in_o that_o christ_n say_v of_o infant_n of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n that_o christ_n do_v in_o that_o say_v thus_o much_o say_v grotius_n by_o so_o much_o the_o less_o be_v that_o age_n to_o be_v despise_v as_o profane_v by_o how_o much_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n that_o yield_v themselves_o up_o to_o my_o government_n must_v become_v child_n again_o last_o to_o mr._n t._n his_o object_v that_o constantine_n the_o great_a and_o greg._n nazianzen_n be_v not_o baptize_v till_o they_o be_v of_o age_n i_o answer_v 1._o that_o mr._n t._n have_v ill_o urge_v constantine_n a_o latin_a for_o a_o instance_n that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o ordinary_a in_o the_o greek_a church_n 2._o to_o constantine_n and_o gregory_n nazianzen_v baptism_n we_o have_v answer_v afore_o the_o next_o testimony_n be_v of_o ambrose_n ambrose_n ambrose_n who_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n 381_o helvic_n 381_o helvic_n he_o in_o his_o 2._o book_n of_o abraham_n chap._n 11._o say_v neither_o the_o old_a proselyte_n nor_o the_o infant_n native_a be_v except_v because_o every_o age_n be_v obnoxious_a to_o sin_n and_o therefore_o every_o age_n be_v meet_v for_o the_o sacrament_n for_o unless_o one_o be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n he_o can_v enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n
of_o god_n for_o he_o except_v none_o nor_o infant_n nor_o etc._n etc._n baptism_n etc._n so_o basil_n long_v afore_o ann._n 372._o in_o his_o exhortat_fw-la to_o baptism_n to_o ambrose_n mr._n t._n answer_v nothing_o in_o he_o examen_fw-la but_o only_o take_v notice_n that_o mr._n m._n quote_v he_o but_o make_v no_o exception_n against_o he_o all_o these_o ancient_n that_o we_o have_v translate_v be_v before_o the_o rise_n of_o pelagianism_n reusner_n pelagianism_n pelagius_n be_v about_o an._n 104_o helvic_n or_o 413._o el._n reusner_n who_o abettor_n be_v for_o the_o general_a great_a stickler_n against_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n and_o before_o they_o the_o arrian_n oppose_v the_o same_o bucholc_n same_o arius_n be_v about_o the_o year_n 315._o helvic_n or_o 319_o el_n reusner_n &_o bucholc_n of_o these_o see_v somewhat_o before_o in_o our_o animadversion_n on_o mr._n t._n his_o 2_o argument_n in_o his_o 15._o sect._n next_o let_v we_o touch_v those_o ancient_n who_o after_o the_o rise_n of_o anabaptisticall-pelagianisme_a or_o peleganian-anabaptisme_a write_v for_o infant-baptisme_n none_o of_o they_o urge_v it_o as_o only_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n other_o of_o they_o argue_v it_o from_o the_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o take_v it_o not_o up_o as_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n chrysostome_n who_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n chrysostome_n chrysostome_n 382._o as_o helvicus_n reckon_v be_v bishop_n of_o constantinople_n about_o 389._o as_o el._n reusner_n compute_v upon_o those_o word_n 1_o tim._n 3._o not_o a_o novice_n that_o be_v a_o new_a tender_a plant_n say_v the_o apostle_n mean_v not_o one_o so_o in_o regard_n of_o age_n for_o many_o such_o of_o the_o gentile_n or_o nation_n come_v to_o the_o church_n and_o be_v baptize_v there_o be_v other_o passage_n in_o chrysostome_n but_o i_o promise_v but_o to_o touch_v these_o last_o author_n hierom_n who_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n hieronimus_n 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about_o baptism_n thus_o of_o m._n t._n his_o 6_o 7_o 8_o 9_o argument_n with_o a_o general_a and_o particular_a answer_n thereunto_o chap._n xx._n next_o we_o come_v to_o m._n t._n his_o ten_o argument_n which_o be_v this_o 23._o exercitat_fw-la §_o 23._o that_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o darkness_n under_o the_o papacy_n the_o same_o man_n oppose_v infant-baptisme_n who_o oppose_v invocation_n of_o saint_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a adoration_n of_o the_o cross_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v manifest_a 1_o out_o of_o the_o 66_o sermon_n of_o bernard_n on_o the_o canticle_n whereof_o the_o heretic_n as_o he_o call_v they_o who_o he_o say_v boast_v themselves_o to_o be_v successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o name_v themselves_o apostolic_a he_o have_v these_o word_n they_o deride_v we_o because_o we_o baptise_v infant_n because_o we_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n and_o in_o his_o 140_o epistle_n to_o hildefonsus_n he_o complain_v of_o henricus_n the_o heritick_n that_o 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happen_v thus_o far_o m._n t._n animad_fw-la animad_fw-la note_v as_o a_o introduction_n to_o our_o answer_n that_o bernard_n and_o cluniacensis_fw-la live_v about_o the_o same_o time_n that_o the_o very_a same_o henricus_n alius_fw-la heinricus_fw-la mention_v by_o bernard_n for_o a_o heretic_n be_v the_o same_o man_n in_o all_o probability_n that_o clunia●ensis_n mention_v and_o in_o both_o author_n he_o be_v call_v as_o by_o himself_o pretend_v to_o be_v a_o apostle_n now_o for_o answer_n we_o say_v to_o m._n t._n his_o particular_a 1_o that_o the_o same_o man_n that_o oppose_a infant_n baptism_n oppose_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n so_o do_v henricus_n at_o this_o time_n so_o say_v cluniacensis_fw-la of_o henricus_fw-la alius_fw-la heinricus_fw-la in_o the_o place_n m.t._n quote_v out_o of_o etc._n of_o see_v more_o before_o of_o cluniacensis_fw-la touch_v henricus_fw-la and_o de_fw-fr bruis_n abundant_o chap._n 14_o of_o our_o animad_fw-la pag._n 160_o 161_o etc._n etc._n cluniacensis_fw-la so_o have_v the_o opposer_n of_o infant-baptisme_n since_o see_v cloppenburgius_fw-la in_o his_o book_n call_v the_o gangrene_n of_o anabaptisticall_a divinity_n some_o particular_n we_o have_v translate_v afore_o in_o the_o catalogue_n of_o the_o error_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n yea_o the_o say_a henricus_n and_o de_fw-fr bruis_n doubt_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o paul_n epistle_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n so_o m.t._n his_o cluniacensis_fw-la 2_o that_o former_o those_o same_o man_n that_o oppose_a infant_n baptism_n hold_v all_o those_o dreadful_a error_n we_o number_v up_o a_o little_a afore_o cap._n 15._o 3_o that_o many_o of_o the_o same_o man_n that_o oppose_a infant_n baptism_n be_v either_o arian_n or_o pelagian_o or_o socinian_o or_o arminiaus_fw-la as_o we_o have_v former_o show_v out_o of_o epiphanius_n augustin_n m._n phillips_n and_o m._n ainsworth_n and_o experience_n at_o this_o day_n show_v we_o in_o they_o that_o together_o with_o 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