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A26959 More proofs of infants church-membership and consequently their right to baptism, or, A second defence of our infant rights and mercies in three parts ... / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1675 (1675) Wing B1312; ESTC R17239 210,005 430

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this_o will_v not_o prove_v their_o infant_n christian_n visible_a church-membership_a as_o he_o be_v the_o god_n of_o abraham_n of_o infant_n die_v in_o the_o womb_n of_o believer_n at_o the_o hour_n of_o death_n answ_n it_o be_v true_a if_o they_o be_v not_o the_o child_n of_o visible_a believer_n because_o they_o be_v not_o visible_o capable_a subject_n but_o it_o be_v such_o that_o we_o speak_v of_o your_o three_o instance_n be_v abusive_a 1._o abraham_n be_v a_o visible_a church-member_n of_o the_o church_n triumphant_a where_o he_o be_v i_o will_v not_o believe_v you_o if_o you_o deny_v it_o 2._o infant_n of_o visible_a christian_n die_v in_o the_o womb_n be_v in_o that_o degree_n visible_a church-member_n as_o they_o be_v visible_a person_n that_o be_v it_o be_v a_o know_a thing_n that_o they_o be_v the_o child_n of_o god_n according_a to_o their_o capacity_n 3._o one_o visible_o believe_v at_o the_o hour_n of_o death_n be_v a_o visible_a church-member_n one_o not_o visible_o 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16._o it_o be_v a_o foolish_a pretence_n of_o peaceableness_n and_o quietness_n to_o stand_v by_o in_o silence_n for_o fear_n of_o our_o own_o or_o other_o trouble_n and_o see_v well-meaning_a people_n seduce_v christ_n and_o his_o truth_n and_o name_n abuse_v and_o god_n dishonour_v and_o his_o church_n shake_v and_o make_v a_o scorn_n and_o scandal_n to_o the_o world_n and_o all_o for_o fear_v of_o be_v account_v contentious_a if_o it_o be_v lukewarm_a as_o they_o say_v themselves_o to_o hear_v daily_a swearer_n curser_n scorner_n and_o such_o other_o profane_a sinner_n and_o not_o give_v they_o a_o close_a reproof_n or_o admonition_n so_o much_o more_o be_v it_o to_o see_v or_o hear_v hurtful_a falsehood_n publish_v as_o the_o precious_a truth_n of_o god_n and_o not_o to_o contradict_v it_o nor_o endeavour_v to_o save_v man_n soul_n from_o the_o infection_n if_o satan_n work_n must_v be_v do_v without_o resistance_n as_o oft_o as_o a_o mistake_a well-meaning_a man_n will_v do_v it_o there_o will_v be_v little_a safety_n for_o the_o flock_n §_o 17._o when_o paul_n foretold_v the_o ephesian_n of_o two_o sort_n that_o will_v assault_v they_o viz._n grievous_a devour_a wolf_n and_o man_n arise_v among_o themselves_o that_o will_v speak_v perverse_a thing_n to_o draw_v away_o disciple_n after_o they_o his_o conclusion_n be_v therefore_o watch_v and_o what_o that_o watch_n be_v he_o tell_v timothy_n the_o mouth_n of_o such_o deceiver_n must_v be_v stop_v not_o by_o force_n for_o that_o timothy_n have_v no_o power_n to_o do_v but_o by_o evident_a truth_n and_o truth_n have_v a_o power_n in_o its_o evidence_n if_o it_o be_v but_o right_o open_v and_o manage_v and_o be_v it_o not_o that_o god_n in_o all_o age_n have_v enable_v some_o of_o his_o servant_n faithful_o and_o clear_o to_o vindicate_v truth_n and_o defend_v sound_a doctrine_n and_o hold_v fast_o the_o form_n of_o wholesome_a word_n and_o stop_v the_o mouth_n of_o ignorant_a pride_n that_o wrangle_v against_o they_o what_o have_v become_v of_o we_o long_o ago_o and_o though_o ill_a dispute_n have_v do_v much_o mischief_n and_o too_o often_o dispute_v succede_v more_o according_a to_o the_o part_n interest_n or_o advantage_n of_o the_o disputer_n than_o according_a to_o the_o evidence_n of_o truth_n yet_o for_o all_o such_o abuse_n truth_n must_v be_v defend_v and_o it_o find_v something_o even_o in_o nature_n as_o bad_a as_o man_n be_v to_o befriend_v it_o few_o love_n a_o plain_a falsehood_n unless_o where_o interest_n great_o bribe_v they_o and_o upon_o trial_n truth_n will_v at_o last_o prevail_v where_o sin_n do_v not_o provoke_v god_n in_o judgement_n to_o leave_v man_n to_o the_o delusion_n which_o they_o choose_v §_o 18._o if_o then_o the_o way_n be_v to_o teach_v and_o learn_v and_o quiet_o open_v the_o evidence_n of_o truth_n and_o in_o meekness_n to_o instruct_v those_o that_o oppose_v themselves_o and_o to_o avoid_v contention_n as_o we_o avoid_v war_n till_o other_o man_n assault_n do_v make_v they_o unavoidable_o necessary_a and_o yet_o not_o to_o be_v cowardly_a betrayer_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o church_n of_o god_n nor_o suffer_v satan_n to_o deceive_v man_n unresisted_a but_o earnest_o to_o contend_v for_o the_o faith_n once_o deliver_v to_o the_o saint_n it_o must_v be_v consider_v i._o to_o who_o this_o earnest_a contend_a may_v be_v use_v ii_o and_o by_o who_o §_o 19_o i._n we_o must_v not_o be_v over_o sharp_a or_o earnest_a 1._o with_o those_o that_o be_v yet_o stranger_n to_o religion_n of_o who_o conversion_n there_o be_v hope_n and_o who_o be_v like_a to_o be_v win_v by_o a_o gentle_a way_n which_o more_o demonstrate_v love_n and_o tenderness_n 2_o tim._n 2.25_o 26._o §_o 20._o 2._o nor_o with_o godly_a christian_n who_o fall_v into_o such_o sin_n of_o infirmity_n as_o we_o be_v liable_a to_o and_o who_o tenderness_n make_v compassionate_a tender_a deal_v fit_a to_o their_o recovery_n gal._n 6.1_o 2_o 3._o §_o 21._o 3._o nor_o with_o humble_a deject_a christian_n who_o be_v apt_a than_o we_o to_o aggravate_v their_o own_o fault_n and_o have_v need_n of_o comfort_n to_o restrain_v their_o sorrow_n and_o keep_v they_o from_o despair_n 2_o cor._n 2.7_o §_o 22._o 4._o nor_o with_o sinner_n that_o under_o conversion_n and_o repentance_n be_v humble_v themselves_o by_o confession_n to_o god_n and_o man_n luk._n 15._o philem_n 10_o 16_o 17._o §_o 23._o 5._o nor_o with_o christian_n that_o differ_v from_o we_o in_o tolerable_a matter_n and_o manage_v their_o difference_n but_o with_o tolerable_a infirmity_n not_o hazard_v the_o safety_n of_o the_o church_n or_o man_n soul_n §_o 24._o but_o in_o these_o case_n we_o must_v use_v plainness_n sharpness_n and_o earnestness_n 1._o when_o in_o secret_n where_o man_n honour_n with_o other_o be_v not_o concern_v it_o be_v necessary_a to_o man_n conviction_n and_o repentance_n 1._o because_o of_o the_o greatness_n of_o the_o sin_n or_o error_n which_o will_v not_o be_v know_v if_o it_o be_v not_o true_o open_v and_o aggravate_v 2._o or_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o hardheartedness_n or_o obstinacy_n of_o the_o sinner_n that_o will_v not_o be_v convince_v or_o humble_v by_o easy_a mean_n §_o 25._o 2._o and_o when_o we_o be_v call_v so_o to_o admonish_v a_o public_a sinner_n for_o his_o crime_n or_o heresy_n which_o must_v be_v open_v as_o they_o be_v before_o he_o will_v be_v convince_v and_o humble_v open_o before_o the_o church_n §_o 26._o 3._o and_o when_o the_o people_n or_o church_n be_v in_o danger_n of_o be_v infect_v by_o the_o sin_n or_o error_n if_o the_o evil_a of_o it_o be_v not_o full_o and_o plain_o open_v and_o the_o sinner_n rebuke_v before_o all_o that_o other_o may_v beware_v §_o 27._o 4._o when_o the_o offender_n or_o heretic_n show_v we_o by_o his_o obstinacy_n that_o we_o have_v no_o cause_n to_o expect_v his_o cure_n and_o conviction_n but_o be_v only_o to_o defend_v god_n truth_n and_o man_n soul_n against_o he_o than_o he_o must_v be_v use_v as_o christ_n do_v the_o pharisee_n and_o as_o ruler_n execute_v malefactor_n not_o for_o their_o own_o good_a but_o for_o the_o warn_n of_o other_o and_o preservation_n of_o the_o innocent_a §_o 28._o 5._o and_o when_o our_o gentle_a speech_n tend_v to_o scandalize_v those_o without_o and_o make_v they_o think_v that_o we_o prevaricate_v and_o favour_n christian_n in_o their_o sin_n §_o 29._o all_o these_o case_n you_o may_v see_v prove_v 1._o in_o nathan_n deal_v with_o david_n and_o christ_n with_o peter_n matth._n 16._o and_o paul_n gal._n 2._o etc._n etc._n 2._o in_o paul_n deal_n with_o the_o incestuous_a man_n 1_o cor._n 5._o and_o peter_n with_o ananias_n and_o his_o wife_n 1_o tim._n 5.20_o they_o that_o sin_n rebuke_n before_o all_o etc._n etc._n 2_o tim._n 4.2_o tit._n 1.13_o rebuke_v they_o sharp_o that_o they_o may_v be_v sound_a in_o the_o faith_n cutting_o tit._n 2.15_o rebuke_v with_o all_o authority_n especial_o when_o we_o deal_v with_o inferior_n who_o must_v be_v humble_v tit._n 3.10_o 11._o mat._n 23._o throughout_o and_o eli_n gentleness_n or_o remissness_n be_v our_o warning_n §_o 30._o ii_o and_o as_o to_o the_o person_n who_o must_v use_v this_o sharpness_n and_o earnestness_n against_o error_n and_o sinner_n in_o contend_v for_o the_o faith_n 1._o it_o be_v not_o those_o who_o overvalue_n their_o own_o conception_n and_o grow_v fond_a of_o all_o that_o be_v peculiarly_a their_o own_o and_o insolent_o take_v all_o man_n to_o be_v enemy_n to_o truth_n and_o faith_n and_o godliness_n who_o be_v adversary_n to_o their_o odd_a opinion_n 2._o nor_o must_v inferior_n rise_v up_o with_o insolency_n against_o superior_n or_o the_o young_a against_o their_o elder_n and_o the_o ignorant_a against_o the_o wife_n on_o pretence_n of_o a_o zealous_a stand_n for_o the_o truth_n though_o they_o may_v humble_o and_o modest_o defend_v that_o which_o be_v truth_n indeed_o 3._o nor_o shall_v unstudy_v christian_n present_o think_v hardly_o of_o any_o party_n and_o backbite_v they_o and_o inveigh_v against_o they_o because_o their_o leader_n call_v they_o heretic_n or_o reproach_v they_o as_o erroneous_a dangerous_a man_n as_o almost_o all_o party_n do_v against_o each_o other_o 4._o nor_o shall_v those_o minister_n who_o have_v not_o a_o through_o insight_n into_o a_o controversy_n meddle_v much_o with_o it_o nor_o be_v too_o forward_o to_o reprove_v and_o reproach_v where_o they_o do_v not_o understand_v nor_o to_o undertake_v dispute_n which_o they_o can_v manage_v 5._o but_o as_o god_n do_v endow_v man_n with_o various_a gift_n if_o each_o man_n be_v employ_v according_a to_o his_o talon_n all_o will_v have_v their_o honour_n and_o comfort_n and_o the_o church_n the_o benefit_n of_o they_o all_o §_o 31._o we_o have_v notorious_o all_o these_o sort_n of_o minister_n in_o the_o
devote_v himself_o to_o god_n the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n according_a to_o the_o baptismal_a covenant_n and_o solemn_o profess_v himself_o a_o christian_n that_o man_n be_v a_o true_a member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n though_o defective_a as_o to_o the_o mode_n of_o entrance_n and_o be_v to_o be_v number_v with_o christian_n and_o constantine_n and_o many_o another_o be_v call_v christian_n long_o before_o they_o be_v baptize_v and_o it_o be_v injurious_a to_o the_o rationality_n and_o spirituality_n of_o christ_n covenant_n to_o feign_v he_o to_o be_v so_o ceremonious_a as_o to_o reject_v a_o sound_n profess_v believer_n for_o want_n of_o water_n §_o 23._o though_o augustine_n be_v call_v durus_fw-la pater_fw-la infantum_fw-la and_o be_v suppose_v for_o some_o passage_n by_o many_o papist_n and_o other_o to_o damn_v all_o unbaptised_a person_n save_o martyr_n yet_o these_o follow_a word_n among_o other_o in_o his_o late_a time_n in_o his_o deliberate_a dispute_n against_o the_o donatist_n full_o show_v his_o contrary_a judgement_n which_o yet_o i_o believe_v the_o interest_n of_o his_o cause_n against_o the_o donatist_n be_v a_o help_n to_o in_o this_o point_n and_o remember_v that_o he_o confirm_v it_o in_o his_o retractation_n by_o retract_v only_o the_o instance_n of_o the_o thief_n on_o the_o cross_n as_o uncertain_a whether_o he_o be_v baptize_v or_o not_o §_o 24._o aug_n de_fw-fr baptis_fw-la cont_n donat._n li._n 4._o c._n 29._o quod_fw-la etiam_fw-la atque_fw-la etiam_fw-la considerans_fw-la invenio_fw-la non_fw-la tantum_fw-la passionem_fw-la pro_fw-la nomine_fw-la christi_fw-la id_fw-la quod_fw-la ex_fw-la baptismo_fw-la deerat_fw-la posse_fw-la supplere_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la fidem_fw-la conversionemque_fw-la cordis_n si_fw-fr forte_fw-fr ad_fw-la celebrandum_fw-la mysterium_fw-la baptismi_fw-la in_o angustiis_fw-la temporum_fw-la succurri_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la et_fw-la cap._n 24._o cum_fw-la ministerium_fw-la baptismi_fw-la non_fw-la contemptus_fw-la religionis_fw-la sed_fw-la articulus_fw-la necessitatis_fw-la excludit_fw-la &_o baptismus_fw-la quidem_fw-la potest_fw-la inesse_fw-la ubi_fw-la conuersio_fw-la cordis_fw-la defuerit_fw-la conuersio_fw-la autem_fw-la cordis_fw-la potest_fw-la quidem_fw-la inesse_fw-la non_fw-la percepto_fw-la baptismo_fw-la sed_fw-la contempto_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la ullo_fw-la modo_fw-la dicenda_fw-la est_fw-la conuersio_fw-la cordis_fw-la ad_fw-la deum_fw-la cum_fw-la dei_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la contemnitur_fw-la conversion_n then_o will_v save_v without_o baptism_n when_o baptism_n be_v not_o contemn_v it_o be_v the_o contempt_n that_o destroy_v and_o that_o as_o it_o prove_v man_n unconvert_v and_o this_o he_o profess_v to_o be_v his_o judgement_n after_o long_a and_o great_a consideration_n §_o 25._o baptism_n be_v to_o christianity_n much_o like_o what_o ordination_n be_v to_o the_o sacred_a ministry_n and_o what_o solemn_a matrimony_n be_v to_o marriage_n it_o be_v necessary_a as_o a_o duty_n and_o as_o a_o mean_n to_o our_o ordinary_a and_o regular_a admittance_n to_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n but_o as_o in_o case_n there_o be_v no_o ordainer_n to_o be_v have_v in_o a_o far_a country_n in_o america_n no_o doubt_n but_o a_o qualify_a person_n may_v become_v a_o pastor_n rather_o than_o god_n shall_v have_v no_o church_n nor_o be_v solemn_o worship_v and_o as_o in_o case_n there_o can_v be_v no_o regular_a solemnisation_n of_o marriage_n as_o in_o such_o a_o wilderness_n a_o publish_a consent_n may_v tie_v the_o knot_n so_o in_o case_n there_o can_v be_v no_o baptise_v a_o solemn_a profession_n and_o covenant_a will_v serve_v to_o god_n acceptance_n and_o to_o a_o right_a to_o the_o christian_a name_n §_o 26._o i_o only_o leave_v it_o to_o christian_a charity_n and_o wisdom_n to_o consider_v how_o far_o some_o man_n education_n natural_a weakness_n of_o judgement_n and_o other_o impediment_n of_o information_n may_v make_v their_o error_n against_o infant_n baptism_n to_o participate_v of_o such_o a_o necessity_n the_o case_n have_v its_o difficulty_n papist_n and_o protestant_n confess_v it_o as_o to_o scripture_n evidence_n weak_a man_n can_v know_v all_o thing_n and_o even_o considerable_a head_n that_o have_v hear_v and_o think_v of_o much_o against_o it_o which_o they_o can_v answer_v may_v grow_v very_o confident_a that_o they_o be_v in_o the_o right_n and_o after_o by_o that_o prejudice_n may_v become_v uncapable_a of_o what_o shall_v satisfy_v they_o abundance_n of_o the_o son_n of_o the_o church_n that_o talk_v most_o against_o they_o give_v such_o weak_a reason_n for_o infant_n baptism_n and_o be_v so_o unable_a to_o confute_v a_o anabaptist_n as_o show_v that_o it_o be_v not_o more_o knowledge_n but_o somewhat_o else_o more_o incline_v they_o to_o the_o truth_n therein_o that_o keep_v they_o right_o §_o 27._o if_o the_o case_n be_v whether_o the_o lord_n supper_n may_v be_v administer_v with_o beer_n or_o milk_n where_o there_o be_v no_o wine_n or_o whether_o baptism_n may_v be_v administer_v by_o milk_n or_o wine_n where_o there_o be_v no_o water_n suppose_v the_o affirm_v party_n be_v certain_o in_o the_o right_a yet_o if_o the_o contrary_n mind_v shall_v say_v i_o own_o christ_n sacrament_n and_o solemn_o profess_v my_o consent_n to_o his_o covenant_n and_o i_o will_v participate_v as_o you_o do_v but_o that_o i_o take_v it_o to_o be_v a_o sin_n and_o with_o all_o the_o mean_n that_o i_o can_v use_v in_o conference_n read_v meditation_n prayer_n my_o judgement_n be_v not_o change_v i_o shall_v not_o break_v such_o communion_n with_o such_o a_o man_n as_o he_o be_v capable_a and_o willing_a to_o hold_v with_o the_o church_n and_o how_o near_o some_o anabaptist_n case_n be_v to_o this_o i_o leave_v to_o consideration_n §_o 28._o but_o make_v no_o question_n but_o many_o of_o they_o be_v far_o better_a man_n than_o i_o and_o know_v myself_o liable_a to_o error_n and_o know_v how_o much_o christ_n in_o his_o promise_n lay_v upon_o sincerity_n of_o faith_n and_o love_n more_o than_o upon_o ceremony_n and_o have_v endeavour_v to_o learn_v what_o this_o mean_v i_o will_v have_v mercy_n and_o not_o sacrifice_v as_o i_o be_o far_o more_o offend_v at_o their_o schism_n or_o separation_n from_o communion_n with_o our_o church_n than_o at_o their_o opinion_n so_o i_o will_v here_o lay_v down_o those_o term_n on_o which_o i_o be_o persuade_v good_a and_o sober_a man_n will_v be_v willing_a on_o both_o side_n to_o agree_v and_o hold_v communion_n or_o on_o which_o i_o be_o sure_a i_o will_v glad_o live_v in_o brotherly_a love_n and_o communion_n with_o they_o myself_o §_o 29._o let_v the_o anabaptist_n consent_n to_o and_o profess_v as_o follow_v or_o to_o this_o sense_n though_o we_o judge_v infant_n baptism_n dissonant_n from_o christ_n institute_v order_n yet_o find_v that_o god_n have_v make_v many_o promise_n to_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o faithful_a above_o other_o and_o that_o christ_n express_v his_o readiness_n to_o receive_v little_a child_n when_o they_o be_v bring_v to_o he_o for_o his_o blessing_n and_o know_v that_o all_o christian_a parent_n shall_v earnest_o desire_v that_o their_o child_n may_v be_v the_o child_n of_o god_n through_o christ_n and_o shall_v devote_v they_o to_o he_o as_o far_o as_o be_v in_o their_o power_n and_o know_v that_o there_o be_v difficulty_n about_o the_o extent_n of_o this_o power_n and_o christ_n promise_n we_o do_v here_o solemn_o profess_v that_o we_o thankful_o desire_v all_o those_o mercy_n for_o this_o child_n which_o god_n have_v promise_v to_o such_o in_o his_o word_n and_o that_o we_o hearty_o offer_v devote_v and_o dedicate_v this_o child_n to_o god_n the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n as_o far_o as_o he_o have_v give_v we_o power_n to_o do_v it_o beseech_v he_o according_o to_o accept_v he_o and_o we_o promise_v faithful_o to_o endeavour_v to_o educate_v he_o in_o the_o nurture_n and_o admonition_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o as_o we_o be_v able_a to_o persuade_v he_o when_o he_o be_v capable_a to_o believe_v in_o christ_n and_o solemn_o devote_v himself_o to_o god_n the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n in_o baptism_n let_v this_o much_o be_v do_v in_o the_o church_n or_o so_o open_o as_o may_v satisfy_v the_o church_n that_o they_o be_v not_o despiser_n of_o god_n mercy_n nor_o their_o child_n soul_n much_o more_o will_v it_o tend_v to_o our_o quietness_n and_o concord_n if_o those_o that_o profess_v that_o they_o can_v satisfy_v their_o conscience_n in_o their_o infant_n baptism_n will_v but_o do_v as_o the_o liturgy_n do_v by_o those_o who_o baptism_n be_v uncertain_a if_o thou_o be_v not_o baptise_a i_o baptise_v thou_o and_o so_o will_v say_v be_v uncertain_a whether_o my_o infant_n baptism_n be_v valid_a if_o it_o be_v not_o i_o now_o receive_v that_o which_o be_v and_o when_o they_o have_v satisfy_v their_o 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the_o solemnisation_n of_o it_o and_o so_o not_o for_o infant_n first_o real_a state_n of_o relation_n to_o christ_n and_o right_a to_o life_n which_o be_v before_o it_o as_o it_o be_v to_o believer_n before_o baptism_n but_o for_o the_o solemn_a investiture_n in_o those_o right_n and_o so_o greg._n nazian_n or._n 40._o give_v this_o brief_a definition_n of_o baptism_n that_o it_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o covenant_n make_v with_o god_n for_o a_o new_a and_o pure_a kind_n of_o life_n and_o hereupon_o many_o who_o think_v infant_n church-member_n visible_a and_o safe_a upon_o their_o parent_n covenant_n consent_n think_v that_o the_o time_n of_o solemnisation_n be_v so_o far_o leave_v to_o prudence_n as_o that_o as_o the_o israelite_n do_v circumcision_n in_o the_o wilderness_n it_o may_v be_v delay_v a_o few_o year_n by_o such_o parent_n as_o desire_v it_o till_o child_n can_v somewhat_o answer_v for_o themselves_o §_o 60._o yet_o after_o my_o review_n of_o this_o controversy_n 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4._o and_o it_o be_v never_o the_o meaning_n of_o christ_n to_o lay_v so_o much_o on_o the_o outward_a wash_n as_o many_o papist_n and_o anabaptist_n do_v but_o as_o the_o uncircumcised_a infant_n in_o the_o wilderness_n be_v nevertheless_o church-member_n and_o save_v so_o when_o infant_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n by_o the_o parent_n true_a and_o know_a consent_n their_o damnation_n be_v not_o to_o be_v fear_v upon_o their_o die_v unbaptise_v by_o surprise_n 5._o but_o yet_o obedience_n to_o god_n be_v necessary_a many_o parent_n hasten_v their_o child_n baptism_n at_o two_o or_o three_o day_n old_a other_o staid_a till_o the_o eight_o day_n other_o longer_z and_o multitude_n have_v child_n that_o be_v in_o several_a degree_n enter_v on_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n when_o the_o parent_n be_v convert_v and_o it_o remain_v doubtful_a whether_o they_o be_v as_o to_o the_o covenant_n at_o their_o parent_n choice_n or_o their_o own_o and_o to_o this_o day_n there_o want_v not_o 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heart_n that_o of_o paul_n rom._n 11._o be_v not_o high-minded_a but_o fear_n and_o to_o learn_v over_o and_o over_o jam._n 3._o and_o christ_n word_n to_o the_o son_n of_o thunder_n you_o know_v not_o what_o manner_n of_o spirit_n you_o be_v of_o §_o 4._o and_o alas_o that_o ever_o the_o bitter_a voluminous_a reproach_n of_o the_o zeal_n of_o the_o present_a age_n shall_v have_v such_o a_o scandal_n or_o stumble_a block_n lay_v in_o their_o way_n to_o harden_v they_o in_o the_o justification_n of_o their_o reproach_n as_o if_o our_o zeal_n be_v the_o cause_n or_o cover_v of_o such_o heinous_a sin_n woe_n to_o the_o world_n because_o of_o offence_n and_o woe_n to_o they_o by_o who_o they_o come_v §_o 5._o 4._o but_o what_o a_o tremendous_a warning_n be_v this_o against_o the_o spirit_n of_o unwarrantable_a separation_n or_o true_a schism_n when_o the_o same_o person_n shall_v venture_v upon_o all_o that_o be_v here_o write_v by_o he_o who_o yet_o take_v our_o infant_n baptism_n for_o 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of_o faith_n that_o nothing_o befall_v a_o man_n after_o the_o first_o grace_n unless_o some_o part_n of_o mankind_n either_o merit_n or_o demerit_n that_o this_o shall_v come_v to_o pass_v in_o the_o next_o thirteen_o chapter_n he_o proceed_v to_o answer_v the_o question_n quomodo_fw-la animae_fw-la talium_fw-la infantium_fw-la sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la actuali_fw-la decedentium_fw-la punientur_fw-la have_v before_o speak_v of_o infant_n die_v unbaptise_v unavoidable_o that_o be_v how_o the_o soul_n of_o such_o infant_n shall_v be_v punish_v whether_o all_o equal_o or_o unequal_o and_o whether_o only_o with_o the_o punishment_n of_o loss_n or_o also_o of_o sense_n and_o he_o conclude_v contrary_a to_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o papist_n that_o they_o shall_v have_v both_o the_o punishment_n of_o loss_n and_o sense_n and_o note_v that_o that_o necesse_fw-la est_fw-la peccata_fw-la originalia_fw-la hominum_fw-la esse_fw-la inaequalia_fw-la sicut_fw-la decedentes_fw-la in_o originalibus_fw-la sunt_fw-la propter_fw-la illa_fw-la inaequaliter_fw-la condemnandi_fw-la nam_fw-la juxta_fw-la dicta_fw-la omnes_fw-la condemnati_fw-la pro_fw-la originalibus_fw-la sunt_fw-la condemnandi_fw-la tam_fw-la poena_fw-la damni_fw-la quam_fw-la poena_fw-la sensus_fw-la sed_fw-la impossibile_fw-it est_fw-la quod_fw-la condemnentur_fw-la aequaliter_fw-la omnino_fw-la illis_fw-la poenis_fw-la ergo_fw-la relinquitur_fw-la quod_fw-la peccata_fw-la quibus_fw-la illas_fw-la poenas_fw-la demeruerunt_fw-la inaequalia_fw-la sunt_fw-la dicenda_fw-la that_o be_v it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o the_o original_a sin_n of_o man_n be_v unequal_a as_o those_o that_o die_v in_o original_a sin_n be_v unequal_o to_o be_v condemn_v for_o they_o for_o as_o be_v say_v all_o that_o be_v condemn_v for_o original_a sin_n be_v condemn_v both_o with_o the_o punishment_n of_o loss_n and_o of_o sense_n but_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o they_o shall_v be_v damn_v altogether_o equal_o with_o those_o pain_n therefore_o it_o remain_v that_o the_o sin_n by_o which_o they_o deserve_v those_o punishment_n be_v say_v to_o be_v unequal_a reader_n i_o have_v be_v the_o large_a in_o transcribe_v and_o translate_n the_o word_n of_o wickliff_n because_o a_o author_n be_v not_o so_o well_o understand_v by_o a_o line_n or_o two_o dismember_a from_o the_o rest_n as_o by_o whole_a discourse_n and_o so_o that_o his_o sense_n may_v be_v past_o all_o controversy_n here_o it_o be_v visible_a that_o wickliff_n be_v so_o far_o from_o deny_v infant-baptism_n that_o 1._o he_o express_o assert_v it_o 2._o he_o never_o so_o much_o as_o note_v it_o for_o any_o controversy_n nor_o make_v any_o doubt_n or_o question_n about_o it_o 3._o yea_o he_o take_v it_o to_o be_v bold_a presumption_n for_o any_o to_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o know_v whether_o a_o infant_n that_o die_v unavoidable_o unbaptise_v be_v save_v or_o not_o but_o only_o say_v god_n can_v do_v it_o if_o he_o will_v and_o he_o can_v damn_v he_o 4._o and_o to_o those_o that_o say_v that_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o in_o the_o fault_n nor_o the_o people_n see_v they_o intend_v his_o baptism_n he_o say_v that_o many_o thing_n come_v to_o pass_v for_o past_a sin_n of_o parent_n and_o people_n and_o therefore_o that_o can_v be_v conclude_v and_o nothing_o after_o the_o first_o grace_n come_v to_o pass_v unmerited_a 5._o and_o he_o conclude_v that_o those_o of_o they_o that_o be_v damn_v for_o original_a sin_n be_v punish_v with_o pain_n of_o loss_n and_o sense_n but_o unequal_o have_v unequal_a original_n sin_n 6._o but_o baptism_n he_o assert_v do_v put_v away_o all_o sin_n in_o the_o right_o baptise_a 7._o and_o that_o when_o infant_n be_v right_o baptise_a with_o water_n they_o be_v baptise_a with_o the_o three_o baptism_n have_v baptismal_a grace_n 8._o that_o it_o be_v according_a to_o christ_n rule_n that_o infant_n be_v bring_v to_o the_o church_n to_o be_v baptise_a and_o now_o reader_n judge_v what_o a_o sad_a case_n poor_a honest_a ignorant_a christian_n be_v in_o that_o must_v have_v their_o soul_n seduce_v trouble_a and_o lead_v into_o love-killing_a alienation_n and_o separation_n and_o censure_n of_o christ_n church_n and_o of_o their_o particular_a brethren_n by_o such_o a_o man_n as_o this_o and_o whether_o they_o that_o dare_v use_v soul_n at_o this_o rate_n be_v so_o much_o better_a than_o we_o as_o to_o be_v above_o our_o communion_n nay_o whether_o those_o that_o late_o revile_v the_o zeal_n of_o dissenter_n as_o cherish_v the_o most_o odious_a crime_n be_v not_o too_o much_o scandalize_v and_o harden_v by_o such_o deal_n when_o a_o man_n as_o plead_v for_o christ_n and_o baptism_n dare_v not_o only_o print_v such_o thing_n but_o stand_v to_o they_o in_o a_o second_o edition_n and_o defend_v they_o by_o a_o second_o book_n and_o rage_n and_o be_v confident_a in_o revile_v those_o that_o tell_v he_o of_o his_o untruth_n §_o 10._o but_o he_o have_v many_o pretend_a reason_n to_o prove_v that_o wickliff_n be_v against_o infant-baptism_n and_o some_o of_o they_o out_o of_o the_o very_a chapter_n which_o i_o have_v transcribe_v 1._o say_v he_o he_o assert_v two_o sacrament_n 2._o that_o believer_n must_v be_v baptize_v in_o pure_a water_n and_o what_o be_v these_o to_o the_o purpose_n 3_o that_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a subject_n of_o baptism_n a_o gross_a untruth_n but_o he_o give_v you_o the_o word_n that_o prove_v it_o ideo_fw-la absque_fw-la dubitatione_n si_fw-la iste_fw-la insensibilis_fw-la baptismus_fw-la affuerit_fw-la baptizatus_fw-la à_fw-la crimine_fw-la est_fw-la mundatus_fw-la &_o si_fw-la ille_fw-la defuerit_fw-la quantumcunque_fw-la essent_fw-la priores_fw-la baptismus_fw-la non_fw-la prodest_fw-la animae_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la i_o give_v you_o the_o word_n before_o and_o do_v the_o man_n think_v that_o this_o be_v any_o thing_n to_o his_o purpose_n wickliff_n say_v water_v baptism_n save_v no_o soul_n young_a or_o old_a without_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o spirit_n therefore_o say_v mr._n d._n wickliff_n say_v that_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a
de_fw-fr erorribus_fw-la begehurdorum_fw-la and_o have_v not_o a_o word_n of_o it_o what_o the_o papist_n doctrine_n be_v you_o need_v no_o better_a informer_n than_o lucas_n tudensis_n forego_v part._n 1.636_o who_o write_v against_o worse_a person_n though_o gretser_n intitle_v it_o against_o the_o albigenses_n and_o yet_o charge_v they_o not_o with_o this_o viz._n cap._n 1._o li._n 2._o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n every_o neophyte_n maybe_o baptise_a of_o any_o layman_n jew_n heretic_n or_o gentile_a but_o for_o the_o dignity_n of_o the_o sacrament_n it_o must_v be_v do_v by_o a_o presbyter_n or_o deacon_n if_o there_o be_v opportunity_n and_o receive_v from_o any_o other_o it_o be_v not_o at_o all_o to_o be_v iterate_v by_o this_o sacrament_n both_o infant_n and_o adult_n be_v regenerate_v of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n and_o receive_v remission_n of_o all_o sin_n with_o the_o adoption_n of_o the_o child_n of_o god_n §_o 25._o if_o all_o this_o will_v not_o clear_v the_o waldenses_n at_o mr._n d.'s_n bar_n and_o if_o he_o look_v that_o we_o shall_v take_v notice_n of_o his_o dutch_a martyrologie_n and_o his_o merningus_n let_v he_o that_o err_v err_v still_o chap._n iu._n his_o impenitence_n in_o calumniate_a the_o donatist_n and_o novatian_n reprehend_v §_o 1._o pag._n 132._o of_o his_o reply_n he_o return_v to_o this_o notorious_a calumny_n and_o charge_v mr._n willes_n with_o disingenuity_n he_o fall_v to_o his_o wont_a way_n of_o prove_v 1._o from_o sebastian_n frank_n and_o twisk_n who_o i_o neither_o have_v at_o hand_n nor_o be_o oblige_v to_o believe_v in_o tell_v i_o what_o the_o donatist_n hold_v nor_o to_o believe_v that_o mr._n d._n here_o so_o differ_v from_o himself_o as_o true_o to_o report_v they_o once_o for_o all_o it_o be_v usual_a with_o writer_n to_o charge_v the_o anabaptist_n as_o follow_v the_o donatist_n in_o rebaptise_v but_o not_o in_o deny_v infant-baptism_n for_o the_o donatist_n baptize_v again_o both_o infant_n and_o 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