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transubstantiation_n now_o to_o view_v the_o other_o point_n adoration_n here_o one_a he_o deny_v not_o a_o inferior_a and_o relative_n adoration_n to_o be_v allow_v to_o be_v due_a and_o pay_v by_o the_o greek_n to_o the_o holy_a mystery_n in_o the_o eucharist_n such_o as_o be_v give_v to_o the_o holy_a gospel_n and_o to_o other_o sacred_a thing_n of_o which_o we_o find_v in_o s._n chrysostom_n mass_n that_o before_o his_o read_v the_o gospel_n diaconus_fw-la respondet_fw-la amen_n &_o reverentiam_fw-la sancto_fw-it evangelio_n exhibet_fw-la see_v m._n claude_n last_o answer_n l._n 3._o c._n 7._o p._n 219._o where_o he_o grant_v that_o the_o greek_n have_v much_o devotion_n for_o picture_n for_o the_o evangile_a and_o for_o the_o pain_n benit_fw-la and_o for_o the_o bread_n of_o the_o eucharist_n before_o the_o consecration_n 2_o a_o supreme_a adoration_n he_o grant_v lawful_a and_o due_a to_o our_o lord_n humanity_n wherever_o present_a and_o allow_v such_o a_o adoration_n actual_o 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