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A10973 Two dialogues, or conferences (about an old question lately renued, and by the schismaticall company, both by printed pamphlets, and otherwise to the disturbance of the Churches quiet, and of peaceable minds, very hotly pursued.) Concerning kneeling in the very act of receiuing the sacramental bread and wine, in the Supper of the Lord The former betweene two ministers of the word, the one refractarie, and depriued; the other not so. The latter betweene an humorous schismatike and a setled professor. Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616. 1608 (1608) STC 21241; ESTC S116109 75,976 132

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whether_o christ_n prescribe_v a_o special_a gesture_n for_o the_o communion_n sect._n 8._o whether_o the_o prayer_n at_o the_o delivery_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v justifiable_a sect._n 9_o whether_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n be_v a_o gesture_n indifferent_a sect._n 10._o whether_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n as_o much_o be_v to_o be_v abhor_v as_o the_o worship_v of_o image_n sect._n 11._o whether_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n be_v a_o show_n of_o evil_a and_o the_o great_a scandal_n sect._n 12._o whether_o the_o king_n commandment_n to_o kneel_v make_v kneel_v to_o be_v no_o sin_n sect._n 13._o ❧_o the_o second_o dialogue_n about_o kneel_v at_o the_o holy_a communion_n between_o a_o humorous_a schismatic_n and_o a_o settle_a professor_n schis_n the_o proposition_n which_o i_o hold_v and_o will_v maintain_v be_v this_o namely_o that_o kneel_v in_o the_o very_a act_n of_o take_v eat_a and_o drink_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o holy_a 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and_o receive_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o holy_a communion_n be_v if_o it_o be_v orderly_o take_v and_o decent_o do_v be_v from_o god_n and_o his_o word_n albeit_o therefore_o neither_o nature_n enjoin_v we_o to_o kneel_v no_o more_o then_o to_o sit_v or_o stand_v when_o we_o eat_v and_o drink_v nor_o the_o word_n or_o holy_a scripture_n to_o kneel_v no_o more_o then_o to_o stand_v or_o sit_v when_o we_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n yet_o as_o our_o common_a eat_n and_o drink_v according_a to_o the_o laudable_a custom_n of_o our_o country_n where_o we_o live_v be_v from_o nature_n though_o institute_v by_o man_n or_o make_v usual_a by_o custom_n even_o so_o our_o kneel_v in_o eat_v and_o drink_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o holy_a communion_n be_v from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n original_o though_o institute_v by_o man_n inasmuch_o as_o god_n be_v the_o fountain_n of_o all_o decent_a order_n in_o his_o church_n as_o after_o god_n nature_n be_v the_o author_n of_o all_o civility_n &_o good_a manner_n among_o man_n in_o the_o world_n think_v not_o then_o how_o kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n be_v by_o institution_n of_o man_n or_o mere_o from_o man_n not_o require_v by_o the_o word_n for_o both_o man_n appoint_v and_o god_n approve_v and_o by_o authority_n from_o god_n man_n appoint_v and_o by_o the_o ministry_n of_o man_n god_n approve_v our_o kneel_v and_o so_o our_o say_a kneel_v be_v not_o so_o much_o the_o institution_n of_o man_n as_o of_o god_n and_o require_v in_o his_o word_n so_o that_o in_o kneel_v though_o sometime_o and_o some_o people_n may_v yet_o always_o and_o all_o person_n do_v not_o sin_n yea_o all_o communicant_n if_o otherwise_o they_o offend_v not_o do_v serve_v and_o please_v god_n by_o kneel_v sect_n 2._o whether_o kneel_v be_v use_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n unto_o god_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n schis_n if_o it_o be_v by_o institution_n it_o must_v be_v either_o in_o respect_n of_o a_o more_o reverend_a receive_n or_o not_o pro._n of_o all_o reverend_a manner_n of_o receive_v the_o holy_a sacrament_n kneel_v be_v the_o most_o reverend_a and_o so_o and_o none_o otherwise_o institute_v and_o use_v by_o we_o of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o england_n schis_n but_o if_o the_o most_o solemn_a sign_n of_o reverence_n use_v in_o these_o part_n of_o the_o world_n be_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n and_o that_o by_o institution_n of_o authority_n in_o so_o high_a a_o part_n of_o god_n service_n may_v not_o such_o kneel_v be_v judge_v if_o not_o a_o gross_a 29._o mock_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v the_o soldier_n bow_v of_o knee_n before_o he_o yet_o a_o take_n of_o the_o name_n of_o god_n in_o vain_a see_v all_o signification_n of_o honour_n in_o god_n service_n aught_o to_o be_v to_o the_o honour_n of_o his_o name_n &_o a_o oath_n not_o religious_o intend_v as_o in_o 7._o the_o nature_n thereof_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v to_o the_o hovour_n of_o god_n be_v 2._o the_o take_n of_o god_n name_n in_o vain_a pro._n be_v kneel_v at_o the_o communion_n a_o sign_n a_o solemn_a yea_o the_o most_o solemn_a sign_n of_o reverence_n use_v in_o these_o part_n of_o the_o world_n by_o your_o own_o confession_n and_o may_v not_o yea_o can_v that_o solemn_a that_o most_o solemn_a sign_n of_o reverence_n at_o the_o receive_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n at_o the_o communion_n be_v express_v without_o sin_n which_o be_v your_o proposition_n who_o observe_v &_o believe_v these_o your_o word_n which_o be_v most_o true_a but_o will_v fall_v into_o a_o loathe_n of_o the_o say_a assertion_n but_o your_o say_a proposition_n be_v not_o more_o odious_a than_o your_o say_n that_o the_o most_o solemn_a kind_n of_o reverence_n use_v in_o these_o part_n of_o the_o world_n be_v without_o all_o respect_n of_o reverence_n and_o that_o by_o institution_n of_o authority_n be_v false_a and_o slanderous_a for_o neither_o do_v all_o church_n in_o these_o part_n of_o 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be_v abuse_v the_o blame_n be_v to_o be_v lay_v neither_o upon_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o upon_o some_o particular_a professor_n neither_o be_v it_o a_o open_a and_o public_a scandal_n at_o least_o not_o always_o nor_o every_o where_o but_o a_o hide_a sin_n of_o some_o few_o hypocrite_n schis_n love_n feast_n be_v either_o before_o or_o after_o the_o supper_n whereas_o kneel_v be_v in_o the_o principal_a part_n of_o the_o holy_a communion_n pro._n whether_o these_o feast_n of_o love_n be_v celebrate_v afore_o or_o after_o the_o holy_a communion_n it_o be_v uncertain_a and_o not_o material_a the_o most_o divine_n notwithstanding_o do_v think_v that_o after_o but_o whether_o afore_o or_o after_o they_o go_v together_o the_o love_n feast_n with_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n the_o sacrament_n not_o without_o the_o love_n feast_n it_o be_v general_o hold_v that_o among_o the_o jew_n there_o be_v a_o yearly_a 21._o custom_n when_o they_o do_v eat_v their_o paschal_n lamb_n to_o adjoine_v unto_o that_o sacrament_n a_o ceremonial_a eat_n of_o bread_n and_o drink_v of_o wine_n in_o imitation_n of_o these_o jew_n and_o banquet_n 42._o the_o first_o christian_n at_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n make_v feast_n call_v agaps_o or_o banquet_n of_o charity_n the_o jew_n for_o their_o feast_n after_o the_o passeover_n have_v neither_o the_o precedent_n of_o moses_n nor_o the_o precept_n of_o god_n nor_o the_o christian_n any_o either_o precedent_n or_o commandment_n of_o christ_n for_o the_o love_n feast_n 39_o those_o supper_n and_o feast_n of_o the_o jew_n notwithstanding_o be_v so_o like_v of_o christ_n as_o he_o make_v of_o those_o supper_n the_o sacrament_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n and_o christian_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n term_v their_o agapas_fw-la their_o feast_n of_o charity_n the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n sacra_fw-la convivia_fw-la sacra_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la coetus_fw-la convivia_fw-la yea_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n 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