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the_o world_n no_o child_n no_o possession_n this_o manner_n of_o life_n he_o commend_v very_o much_o then_o concern_v priest_n he_o say_v not_o that_o this_o state_n or_o manner_n of_o life_n be_v necessary_a but_o that_o for_o the_o avoid_n of_o care_n and_o trouble_n of_o the_o world_n this_o manner_n of_o life_n be_v necessary_a this_o be_v all_o that_o caâ—_n be_v gather_v out_o of_o that_o passage_n of_o euscbius_n and_o this_o be_v no_o more_o than_o the_o scripture_n teach_v we_o 7._o we_o maâ—th_n 19_o 12._o 1._o cor._n 7._o 7._o he_o that_o can_v receive_v it_o let_v he_o receive_v it_o and_o s._n paul_n will_v have_v all_o man_n â—_o to_o be_v unmarried_a and_o as_o himself_o be_v if_o they_o have_v that_o gift_n of_o god_n the_o council_n of_o carthage_n require_v priest_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o observe_v chastity_n temperance_n or_o sobriety_n what_o be_v this_o for_o single_a life_n these_o virtue_n be_v require_v of_o they_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o may_v 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chrysost_n hâ—m_fw-la â—_o in_o tit._n chrysostome_n that_o it_o hinder_v no_o man_n promotion_n to_o the_o episcopal_a chair_n our_o adversary_n teach_v the_o contrary_a and_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v libat_fw-la be_v coster_n enchirid_a art_n de_fw-fr coe_n libat_fw-la a_o great_a sin_n for_o a_o priest_n to_o marry_v then_o to_o commit_v fornication_n and_o thus_o ex_fw-la ungul_n leonem_fw-la by_o the_o print_n of_o herculâ—s_n foot_n you_o may_v judge_v of_o his_o whole_a body_n by_o this_o one_o tradition_n you_o may_v judge_v of_o the_o rest_n and_o so_o see_v how_o like_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o now_o romanâ—_n church_n be_v unto_o those_o thing_n which_o the_o apostle_n deliver_v unto_o the_o primitive_a church_n 7._o the_o jesuite_n find_v no_o help_n from_o the_o father_n fly_v for_o succour_v unto_o the_o writing_n of_o cardinal_n pervon_n from_o who_o he_o borrow_v these_o six_o observation_n follow_v 1._o when_o the_o father_n speak_v of_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o 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