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A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

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expression_n by_o they_o i_o be_o sure_a he_o declare_v his_o mind_n plain_o in_o the_o rest_n or_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o and_o distinction_n of_o the_o emperor_n argument_n out_o of_o scripture_n especial_o of_o the_o place_n out_o of_o peter_n to_o be_v that_o clerk_n be_v not_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o emperor_n for_o the_o refutation_n of_o which_o answer_v or_o distinction_n i_o remit_v the_o reader_n to_o what_o i_o have_v say_v former_o at_o large_a out_o of_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o nature_n for_o the_o subjection_n of_o clerk_n and_o to_o what_o beside_o i_o say_v before_o at_o leingth_n in_o answer_n to_o bellarmine_n argument_n for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n either_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n or_o man_n or_o nature_n where_o albeit_o i_o have_v say_v nothing_o in_o particular_a to_o that_o place_n of_o peter_n or_o to_o innocent_n quibble_n upon_o it_o as_o not_o be_v va●●ed_v by_o bellarmine_n himself_o and_o therefore_o 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61._o or_o 62._o which_o clear_o and_o express_o disclaim_v and_o renounce_v any_o such_o power_n in_o the_o pope_n either_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o sin_n or_o any_o other_o whatsoever_o but_o only_o in_o relation_n to_o such_o king_n as_o hold_v their_o kingdom_n in_o fee_n from_o he_o and_o who_o consequent_o be_v not_o absolute_a sovereign_n or_o not_o absolute_o the_o supreme_a lord_n of_o their_o kingdom_n not_o even_o i_o mean_v in_o temporal_n nor_o hold_v of_o god_n immediate_o but_o of_o the_o pope_n who_o they_o themselves_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v the_o chief_a &_o true_o supreme_a lord_n of_o such_o kingdom_n though_o by_o human_a right_n only_o but_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o no_o such_o depose_n power_n in_o the_o pope_n as_o to_o other_o king_n who_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v themselves_o to_o hold_v in_o fee_n from_o he_o can_v be_v gather_v out_o of_o this_o cap._n n●vit_fw-la il●e_fw-la de_fw-fr judicijs_fw-la where_o if_o strict_o examine_v innocent_a do_v no_o more_o say_v no_o more_o upon_o complaint_n make_v to_o the_o same_o pope_n innocent_a by_o a_o king_n of_o england_n against_o a_o king_n of_o france_n that_o he_o of_o france_n though_o admonish_v by_o he_o several_a time_n to_o keep_v the_o treaty_n swear_v and_o peace_n agree_v upon_o betwixt_o they_o and_o particular_o in_o relation_n to_o the_o county_n of_o poitiers_n which_o england_n hold_v in_o fee_n from_o france_n and_z as_o agree_v upon_o too_o by_o article_n of_o the_o say_a treaty_n and_o peace_n mutual_o swear_v do_v without_o any_o regard_n of_o his_o oath_n or_o any_o just_a cause_n endeavour_n to_o force_v in_o hostile_a manner_n that_o fee_n of_o poitiers_n back_o again_o from_o the_o possession_n of_o the_o english_a where_o i_o say_v upon_o this_o complaint_n and_o for_o aught_o appear_v out_o of_o this_o canon_n in_o itself_o novit_n ille_fw-la de_fw-fr judiciis_fw-la innocent_n do_v no_o more_o but_o write_v to_o the_o clergy_n of_o france_n that_o he_o depute_v a_o certain_a french_a archbishop_n &_o a_o other_o french_a abbot_n to_o examine_v the_o matter_n of_o fact_n and_o proceed_v thereupon_o to_o give_v sentence_n and_o beside_o this_o say_v no_o more_o in_o this_o chapter_n to_o any_o such_o purpose_n as_o the_o say_a irish_a divine_v alleadg_n he_o for_o but_o that_o the_o king_n of_o france_n be_v so_o evangelical_o denounce_v to_o the_o church_n according_a to_o that_o rule_n of_o the_o gospel_n si_fw-mi peccaverit_fw-la in_o te_fw-la frater_fw-la tuus_fw-la &c_n &c_n dic_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la and_o complain_v of_o as_o a_o public_a scandalous_a breaker_n of_o a_o just_a peace_n and_o religious_a oath_n he_o the_o say_v innocent_a do_v not_o intend_v to_o judge_n of_o the_o fee_n be_v the_o judgement_n of_o this_o belong_v to_o the_o king_n of_o france_n but_o only_o of_o the_o sin_n commit_v in_o the_o breach_n of_o peace_n and_o oath_n non_fw-la enim_fw-la intendimus_fw-la say_v he_o judicare_fw-la de_fw-la feudo_fw-la cujus_fw-la ad_fw-la ipsum_fw-la spectat_fw-la judicium_fw-la sed_fw-la decernere_fw-la de_fw-fr peccat●_n cujus_fw-la ad_fw-la n●s_o pertinet_fw-la sine_fw-la dubitatione_n censura_fw-la quam_fw-la in_o quemlibet_fw-la exercere_fw-la possumus_fw-la &_o debemus_fw-la now_o whether_o the_o say_v irish_a divine_n may_v hence_o and_o only_o hence_o conclude_v their_o depose_n power_n i_o mean_v as_o much_o as_o according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o same_o innocent_a himself_o alone_o i_o see_v nothing_o at_o all_o in_o all_o this_o which_o may_v force_v we_o to_o yield_v innocent_a &_o his_o delegate_n may_v have_v observe_v all_o he_o prescribe_v herein_o or_o in_o that_o whole_a chapter_n and_o all_o which_o the_o gospel_n allow_v to_o he_o or_o to_o the_o church_n in_o the_o case_n that_o i●_n he_o and_o they_o may_v in_o case_n of_o such_o a_o public_a sin_n in_o the_o french_a king_n &_o of_o the_o church_n admonition_n and_o of_o his_o contumacy_n against_o such_o admonition_n have_v proceed_v to_o excommunicate_v he_o evangelical_o that_o be_v may_v have_v deprive_v he_o
of_o the_o didrachma_fw-la and_o for_o his_o own_o very_a person_n matth._n 17.27_o but_o this_o boniface_n exalt_v himself_o in_o so_o much_o that_o be_v in_o temporal_a power_n above_o earthly_a prince_n and_o state_n far_o more_o than_o nay_o quite_o contrary_a to_o that_o which_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n christ_n be_v read_v to_o have_v do_v himself_o in_o mortal_a flesh_n at_o any_o time_n or_o by_o any_o instance_n have_v the_o confidence_n to_o attempt_v the_o bereave_v even_o the_o very_o high_a supreme_a temporal_a prince_n of_o those_o right_n and_o of_o those_o duty_n which_o by_o the_o very_a law_n of_o god_n himself_o be_v they_o and_o be_v to_o be_v pay_v unto_o they_o unless_o peradventure_o themselves_o have_v voluntary_o devest_v themselves_o of_o such_o right_n or_o free_o remit_v such_o duty_n in_o this_o or_o that_o contingency_n i_o have_v before_o section_n lxi_o though_o upon_o a_o other_o occasion_n and_o to_o other_o purpose_n quote_v the_o canon_n which_o 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themselves_o who_o shall_v as_o much_o as_o promise_v to_o pay_v or_o consent_v to_o the_o payment_n of_o any_o such_o imposition_n or_o even_o promise_v or_o consent_n to_o pay_v or_o give_v any_o kind_n of_o money_n or_o quantity_n or_o portion_n of_o money_n to_o such_o prince_n state_n lord_n official_o &c_n &c_n under_o any_o other_o title_n as_o that_o of_o a_o charitable_a subsidy_n or_o help-money_n or_o that_o of_o loane-money_n or_o that_o also_o of_o gift-money_n without_o the_o authority_n or_o licence_n of_o the_o say_v apostolic_a see_n but_o this_o too_o excessive_a boldness_n of_o boniface_n be_v both_o acknowledge_v and_o correct_v by_o clement_n the_o v._o and_o by_o the_o general_n council_n of_o vienna_n in_o which_o council_n the_o say_a clement_n preside_v that_o canon_n of_o boniface_n with_o all_o the_o several_a branch_n or_o declaration_n of_o it_o be_v total_o expunge_v and_o abolish_v as_o appear_v by_o clementina_n quoniam_fw-la de_fw-fr immun_n ecclesia●_n but_o whether_o that_o decree_n of_o boniface_n be_v principal_o make_v by_o he_o in_o hatred_n of_o philip_n king_n of_o france_n as_o who_o boniface_n can_v not_o or_o will_v suffer_v to_o bestow_v the_o ecclesiastical_a benefice_n of_o france_n at_o his_o own_o pleasure_n on_o such_o as_o he_o will_v and_o impose_v also_o or_o receive_v from_o the_o churchman_n or_o church-revenue_n of_o france_n such_o money_n as_o he_o want_v for_o the_o carry_v on_o of_o his_o war_n in_o flanders_n whether_o so_o or_o no_o i_o say_v it_o matter_n not_o for_o he_o make_v it_o and_o make_v it_o general_o even_o for_o all_o king_n emperor_n etc._n etc._n indeed_o the_o gloss_n in_o extravag_n quod_fw-la olim_fw-la de_fw-fr immunit_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la say_v it_o be_v for_o the_o former_a cause_n he_o make_v that_o constitution_n as_o also_o that_o out_o of_o it_o orta_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la multa_fw-la scandala_fw-la vnde_fw-la clemens_n papa_n in_o clement_n quoniam_fw-la de_fw-fr immunit_fw-la ecclesiar_v voluit_fw-la quod_fw-la antiqna_fw-la jura_n servarentur_fw-la &_o non_fw-fr alla_fw-fr constitutio_fw-la but_o we_o know_v out_o of_o ecclesiastical_a history_n the_o first_o original_a and_o whole_a procedure_n and_o by_o what_o degree_n boniface_n come_v at_o last_o to_o that_o extravagancy_n as_o to_o write_v also_o to_o that_o very_a philip_n that_o he_o hold_v they_o all_o for_o heretic_n who_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o papal_a supremacy_n in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o france_n and_o in_o all_o temporal_n as_o well_o as_o in_o spiritual_n which_o great_a exorbitancy_n as_o well_o of_o the_o say_a canon_n as_o of_o all_o the_o precedent_n concountant_a and_o subsequent_a proceed_n of_o boniface_n occasion_v so_o much_o trouble_v to_o the_o universal_a church_n as_o we_o know_v the_o translation_n of_o the_o papacy_n itself_o to_o france_n and_o the_o frequent_a long_a scandalous_a and_o pernicious_a schysme_n betwixt_o anti_n pope_n which_o en●●ed_v thereupon_o amount_v unto_o for_o so_o it_o natural_o and_o common_o happen_v that_o while_o the_o spiritual_a prelate_n of_o the_o church_n do_v according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n with_o all_o christian_a humility_n obey_v the_o temporal_a prince_n in_o temporal_a matter_n the_o church_n itself_o and_o these_o prelate_n in_o she_o enjoy_v halcyon_n day_n peace_n and_o rest_n and_o tranquillity_n as_o that_o when_o and_o as_o often_o as_o the_o same_o prelate_n replenish_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o this_o world_n lift_v up_o their_o horn_n against_o prince_n push_v at_o their_o temporal_n there_o be_v nothing_o to_o be_v see_v but_o scandal_n and_o trouble_n and_o woe_n and_o calamity_n both_o in_o church_n and_o state_n and_o so_o i_o have_v end_v my_o comparison_n betwixt_o the_o more_o ancient_a holy_a pope_n and_o some_o of_o their_o late_a successor_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o subjection_n and_o obedience_n as_o due_a or_o not_o due_a from_o all_o 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