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appendix_n to_o it_o this_o caution_n caveatautem_fw-la omninò_fw-la ne_fw-la verbo_fw-la aut_fw-la signo_fw-la aut_fw-la alio_fw-la quovis_fw-la modo_fw-la aliquatenus_fw-la prodat_fw-la peccatorem_fw-la sed_fw-la si_fw-la prudentiore_fw-la consilio_fw-la indiguerit_fw-la illud_fw-la absque_fw-la ullâ_fw-la expressione_n personae_fw-la requirat_fw-la this_o law_n concern_v they_o that_o do_v confess_v their_o secret_a sin_n to_o a_o priest_n in_o order_n to_o counsel_n comfort_n and_o pardon_v from_o god_n by_o his_o ministry_n be_v very_o prudent_a and_o pious_a and_o it_o relate_v only_o to_o the_o person_n not_o to_o the_o crime_n these_o may_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o any_o doubt_n or_o the_o advantage_n of_o better_a counsel_n and_o instruction_n be_v reveal_v the_o person_n upon_o such_o account_n may_v not_o nisi_fw-la veritas_fw-la aut_fw-la obedientia_fw-la aliud_fw-la exigat_fw-la 21._o in_o 3._o do_v 21._o as_o s._n bonaventure_n say_v well_o unless_o truth_n or_o obedience_n require_v the_o contrary_a for_o indeed_o the_o person_n be_v not_o often_o so_o material_a as_o to_o the_o inquiry_n of_o future_a counsel_n or_o present_a judgement_n as_o the_o greatness_n and_o other_o circumstance_n of_o the_o sin_n but_o this_o be_v a_o ancient_a ecclesiastical_a rule_n eccles._n â—ib_fw-la 7._o cap._n 16._o hist._n eccles._n as_o we_o find_v it_o relate_v by_o sozomen_n presbyterum_fw-la aliquem_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la integritate_fw-la quam_fw-la maximè_fw-la spectabilem_fw-la secretorum_fw-la eitam_fw-la tenacem_fw-la ac_fw-la sapientem_fw-la huic_fw-la officio_fw-la praefecerunt_fw-la a_o penitentiary_n priest_n be_v appoint_v for_o the_o penitent_n a_o man_n that_o be_v of_o good_a life_n wise_a and_o secret_a so_o far_o be_v well_o and_o agreeable_a to_o common_a prudence_n and_o natural_a reason_n and_o the_o word_n of_o solomon_n 13._o prov._n 11._o 13._o qui_fw-la ambulat_fw-la fraudulenter_n revelat_fw-la arcanum_fw-la qui_fw-la autem_fw-la fidelis_fw-la est_fw-la celat_fw-la amici_fw-la commissum_fw-la there_o be_v in_o this_o case_n some_o more_o reason_n than_o in_o ordinary_a secret_n but_o still_o the_o obligation_n be_v the_o same_o and_o to_o be_v govern_v by_o prudence_n and_o be_v subject_a to_o contradiction_n by_o great_a cause_n the_o same_o also_o be_v the_o law_n in_o the_o greek_a church_n amphilochium_n epist._n ad_fw-la amphilochium_n mention_v by_o s._n basil_n our_o father_n permit_v not_o that_o woman_n that_o have_v commit_v adultery_n and_o be_v penitent_a shall_v be_v delate_a in_o public_a 1603._o public_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a._n d._n 1603._o this_o be_v the_o whole_a ground_n and_o foundation_n on_o which_o the_o seal_n of_o confession_n do_v or_o can_v rely_v save_v only_o that_o in_o several_a church_n there_o be_v several_a law_n in_o after-age_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n and_o particular_o in_o the_o 11_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n add_v also_o the_o penalty_n of_o irregularity_n to_o every_o priest_n that_o shall_v reveal_v any_o thing_n commit_v to_o he_o in_o private_a confession_n but_o with_o this_o proviso_n that_o it_o be_v not_o bind_v in_o such_o case_n where_o the_o concealment_n be_v make_v capital_a by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o kingdom_n which_o because_o it_o be_v very_o strict_a and_o yet_o very_o prudent_a i_o shall_v make_v it_o appear_v that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n walk_v wise_o in_o it_o and_o according_a to_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o ancient_n catholic_n church_n in_o command_v the_o seal_n to_o be_v break_v up_o in_o some_o case_n and_o yet_o she_o have_v restrain_v it_o more_o than_o former_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n burchard_n express_o affirm_v 21._o lib._n 19_o decreti_fw-la svi_fw-la c._n 37._o council_n moguaâ—_n cap._n 10._o &_o 21._o that_o before_o the_o nicene_n council_n the_o penitentiary_n priest_n may_v publish_v what_o he_o hear_v in_o confession_n if_o it_o be_v for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o penitent_a or_o for_o the_o greatness_n of_o the_o crime_n it_o seem_v fit_a to_o the_o confessor_n and_o that_o he_o say_v true_a we_o have_v sufficient_a testimony_n from_o
sive_fw-la homil._n 59_o say_v against_o thou_o only_o have_v i_o sin_v and_o do_v evil_a in_o thy_o sight_n and_o thy_o sin_n be_v forgive_v thou_o 50._o homil._n 2._o in_o psal._n 50._o i_o do_v not_o say_v tell_v to_o thy_o fellow-servant_n who_o upbraid_v thou_o but_o tell_v they_o to_o god_n who_o heal_v thy_o sin_n and_o 57_o homil._n quod_fw-la peccata_fw-la non_fw-la sint_fw-la evulganda_fw-la vid._n tom_n 57_o that_o after_o the_o abolition_n of_o the_o penitentiary-priest_n nothing_o be_v surrogated_a in_o his_o stead_n but_o pious_a homily_n and_o public_a exhortation_n we_o learn_v from_o those_o word_n of_o he_o we_o do_v not_o bring_v the_o sinner_n into_o the_o midst_n and_o publish_v their_o sin_n but_o have_v propound_v the_o common_a doctrine_n to_o all_o we_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o conscience_n of_o the_o auditor_n that_o out_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v speak_v every_o one_o may_v find_v a_o medicine_n fit_v for_o his_o wound_n 5._o homil._n de_fw-fr poenit_fw-la &_o confession_n tom_fw-mi 58._o tom_n 5._o let_v the_o discussion_n of_o thy_o sin_n be_v in_o the_o account_n of_o thy_o conscience_n let_v the_o judgement_n be_v pass_v without_o a_o witness_n 5._o homil._n 68_o tom_n 5._o let_v god_n alone_o see_v thou_o confess_v god_n who_o upbraid_v not_o thy_o sin_n but_o out_o of_o this_o confession_n blot_v they_o out_o have_v thou_o sin_v enter_v into_o the_o church_n say_v unto_o god_n i_o have_v sin_v i_o exact_v nothing_o of_o thou_o but_o that_o alone_a matth._n homil._n 31._o in_o ep._n ad_fw-la hebr._fw-la homil._n 2o_n in_o matth._n the_o same_o he_o say_v in_o many_o other_o place_n now_o against_o so_o many_o so_o clear_a and_o dogmatical_a testimony_n it_o will_v be_v to_o no_o purpose_n to_o say_v that_o s._n chrysostom_n only_o speak_v against_o the_o penitentiary-priest_n set_v over_o the_o public_a penitent_n cor._n homil._n 28._o in_o 1_o cor._n and_o this_o he_o do_v lazaro_n homil._n 21._o add_v pop._n antioch_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d homil._n 4._o de_fw-fr lazaro_n in_o pursuance_n of_o his_o predecessor_n act_v for_o beside_o that_o some_o of_o these_o homily_n be_v write_v before_o s._n chrysostom_n be_v bishop_n viz._n his_o one_o and_o twenty_o homily_n to_o the_o people_n of_o antioch_n and_o the_o four_o homily_n of_o lazarus_n which_o be_v preach_v at_o antioch_n before_o he_o come_v to_o constantinople_n when_o he_o be_v but_o a_o priest_n under_o flavianus_n his_o bishop_n and_o his_o homily_n on_o s._n matthew_n beside_o this_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o he_o not_o only_o speak_v against_o the_o public_a judicial_a penance_n and_o confession_n but_o against_o all_o except_o that_o alone_a which_o be_v make_v to_o god_n allow_v the_o sufficiency_n of_o this_o for_o pardon_n and_o disallow_v the_o necessity_n of_o all_o other_o to_o these_o thing_n bellarmine_n perron_n petrus_n de_fw-fr soto_n vasquez_n valentia_n and_o other_o strive_v to_o find_v out_o answer_v but_o they_o neither_o agree_v together_o neither_o do_v their_o answer_n fit_v the_o testimony_n as_o be_v evident_a to_o they_o that_o compare_v the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o the_o chief_a of_o which_o i_o have_v remark_v in_o pass_v by_o the_o best_a answer_n that_o can_v be_v give_v be_v those_o which_o latinus_n latinius_n and_o petavius_n give_v the_o first_o affirm_v that_o these_o homily_n 1._o be_v not_o s._n chrysostom_n or_o 2._o that_o they_o be_v corrupt_v by_o heretic_n and_o the_o latter_a confess_v they_o be_v his_o but_o blame_v s._n chrysostom_n for_o preach_v such_o thing_n and_o to_o these_o answer_v i_o hope_v i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o make_v any_o reply_n 31._o in_o 3._o part_n thâ—_n tom_fw-mi 4_o q._n 90._o a._n 1._o dub_v 3._o n._n 31._o to_o the_o two_o first_o of_o latinus_n vasquez_n have_v answer_v perfect_o and_o to_o that_o of_o petavius_n there_o need_v none_o petavius_n in_o stead_n of_o answer_v make_v himself_o a_o judge_n of_o s._n chrysostom_n i_o suppose_v if_o we_o have_v do_v so_o in_o any_o question_n against_o they_o they_o will_v have_v take_v it_o in_o great_a scorn_n and_o indignation_n and_o therefore_o we_o choose_v to_o follow_v s._n chrysostom_n rather_o than_o master_n petavius_n i_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o the_o roman_a doctor_n do_v bring_v many_o say_n of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a father_n show_v the_o usefulness_n of_o confession_n to_o a_o priest_n and_o exhort_v and_o press_v man_n to_o it_o but_o their_o art_n be_v notorious_a and_o evident_a and_o what_o according_a to_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n at_o that_o time_n they_o speak_v in_o behalf_n of_o the_o exomologesis_fw-la or_o public_a discipline_n that_o these_o doctor_n translate_v to_o the_o private_a confession_n and_o yet_o what_o ever_o we_o bring_v out_o of_o antiquity_n against_o the_o necessity_n of_o confession_n to_o a_o priest_n that_o they_o will_v resolve_o understand_v only_o of_o the_o public_a but_o beside_o what_o have_v be_v say_v to_o every_o of_o the_o particular_n i_o shall_v conclude_v this_o point_n with_o the_o say_n of_o some_o eminent_a man_n of_o their_o own_o who_o have_v make_v the_o same_o observation_n in_o hoc_fw-la labuntur_fw-la theologi_fw-la quidam_fw-la parùm_fw-la attenti_fw-la quòd_fw-la quae_fw-la veteres_fw-la illi_fw-la de_fw-fr hu_o jusmodi_fw-la publicâ_fw-la &_o generali_fw-la confession_n quae_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la erat_fw-la quà m_fw-la signis_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la &_o piaminibus_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopo_fw-la indictis_fw-la se_fw-la peccatorem_fw-la &_o bonorum_fw-la communione_fw-la indignum_fw-la agnoscere_fw-la fabiolae_fw-la in._n s._n hierom._n epist._n ad_fw-la oceanum_n sive_fw-la epitaph_n fabiolae_fw-la trahunt_fw-la ad_fw-la hanc_fw-la occultam_fw-la &_o longè_fw-la diversi_fw-la generis_fw-la so_o erasmus_n and_o b._n rhenanus_fw-la say_v let_v no_o man_n wonder_v that_o tertullian_n speak_v nothing_o of_o the_o secret_a or_o clancular_a confession_n of_o sin_n poeniâ—_n praefat._n in_o l._n tertul._n de_fw-fr poeniâ—_n which_o so_o far_o as_o we_o conjecture_v be_v breed_v out_o of_o the_o old_a exomologesis_fw-la by_o the_o unconstrained_a piety_n of_o man_n for_o we_o do_v not_o find_v it_o at_o all_o command_v of_o old_a the_o conclusion_n of_o these_o premise_n be_v this_o that_o the_o old_a ecclesiastic_a discipline_n be_v pass_v into_o desuetude_n and_o indevotion_n the_o latin_a church_n especial_o keep_v up_o some_o little_a break_a plank_n of_o it_o which_o so_o long_o as_o charity_n and_o devotion_n be_v warm_a and_o secular_a interest_n have_v not_o turn_v religion_n into_o art_n do_v in_o some_o good_a measure_n supply_v the_o want_n of_o the_o old_a better_a discipline_n but_o when_o it_o have_v degenerate_v into_o little_a form_n and_o yet_o be_v find_v to_o serve_v great_a end_n of_o power_n wealth_n and_o ambition_n it_o pass_v into_o new_a doctrine_n and_o be_v now_o bold_a to_o pretend_v to_o divine_a institution_n though_o it_o be_v nothing_o but_o the_o commandment_n of_o man_n a_o snare_n of_o conscience_n and_o a_o ministry_n of_o humane_a policy_n false_a in_o the_o proposition_n and_o intolerable_a in_o the_o conclusion_n there_o be_v divers_a other_o instance_n reducible_a to_o this_o charge_n and_o especial_o the_o prohibition_n of_o priest_n marriage_n and_o the_o abstinence_n from_o flesh_n at_o certain_a time_n which_o be_v grow_v up_o from_o humane-ordinance_n to_o be_v establish_v doctrine_n that_o be_v to_o be_v urge_v with_o great_a severity_n than_o the_o law_n of_o god_n insomuch_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n permit_v concubinate_a and_o stew_n at_o the_o same_o time_n when_o she_o will_v not_o permit_v chaste_a marriage_n to_o her_o clergy_n and_o for_o abstinence_n from_o flesh_n at_o time_n appoint_v veluti_fw-la parricida_fw-la penè_fw-la dixerim_fw-la rapitur_fw-la ad_fw-la supplicium_fw-la qui_fw-la pro_fw-la piscium_fw-la carnibus_fw-la gustârit_fw-la carnes_z suillas_fw-la 4._o rule_n of_o conscience_n lib._n 3._o cap._n 4._o but_o i_o shall_v not_o now_o insist_v upon_o these_o have_v so_o many_o other_o thing_n to_o say_v and_o especial_o have_v already_o in_o another_o place_n verify_v this_o charge_n against_o they_o in_o these_o instance_n 20._o rule_n 13._o and_o rule_v 19_o and_o 20._o i_o shall_v only_o name_v one_o testimony_n of_o their_o own_o which_o be_v a_o pregnant_a mother_n of_o many_o instance_n canonum_fw-la caus._n 25._o qu._n 1._o c._n violatores_fw-la canonum_fw-la and_o it_o be_v in_o their_o own_o canon_n law_n they_o that_o voluntary_o violate_v the_o canon_n be_v heavy_o judge_v by_o the_o holy_a father_n and_o be_v damn_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o who_o instinct_n they_o be_v dictate_v prodictati_fw-la dictate_v dicati_fw-la prodictati_fw-la for_o they_o do_v not_o incongruous_o seem_v to_o blaspheme_v the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o a_o little_a after_o such_o a_o presumption_n be_v manifest_o one_o of_o the_o kind_n of_o they_o that_o blaspheme_v against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n now_o if_o the_o law_n of_o their_o
salvandi_fw-la vel_fw-la tenebris_fw-la tantum_fw-la afficiantur_fw-la vel_fw-la expiationis_fw-la igne_fw-la decoquantur_fw-la quidam_fw-la asserunt_fw-la whether_o the_o judgement_n be_v pass_v beside_o the_o low_a hell_n there_o remain_v a_o place_n for_o light_a punishment_n for_o that_o there_o be_v below_z or_o in_o hell_n a_o purgatory_n place_n in_o which_o they_o that_o be_v to_o be_v save_v be_v either_o affect_v aâ—ficiantur_fw-la invest_v punish_v with_o darkness_n only_o or_o else_o be_v boil_v in_o the_o fire_n of_o expiation_n some_o do_v affirm_v what_o be_v or_o can_v be_v more_o plain_o say_v of_o purgatory_n for_o the_o place_n of_o scripture_n bring_v to_o confirm_v this_o opinion_n be_v such_o which_o relate_v to_o the_o interval_n between_o death_n and_o the_o last_o judgement_n juxta_fw-la illud_fw-la patriarchae_fw-la lugens_fw-la descendum_fw-la ad_fw-la inferos_fw-la &_o illud_fw-la apostoli_fw-la ipse_fw-la autem_fw-la salvus_fw-la erit_fw-la sic_fw-la tamen_fw-la quasi_fw-la per_fw-la ignem_fw-la i_o hope_v the_o roman_a doctor_n will_v not_o deny_v but_o these_o be_v mean_v of_o purgatory_n before_o the_o last_o day_n and_o therefore_o so_o be_v the_o opinion_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o which_o these_o place_n be_v bring_v 2._o by_o post_fw-la judicium_fw-la in_o the_o title_n and_o transacto_fw-la judicio_fw-la in_o the_o chapter_n otho_n mean_v the_o particular_a judgement_n pass_v upon_o every_o one_o at_o their_o death_n which_o he_o in_o a_o few_o line_n after_o call_v terminatis_fw-la in_o judicio_fw-la causis_fw-la singulorum_fw-la 3._o he_o must_v mean_v it_o to_o be_v before_o the_o last_o great_a day_n because_o that_o which_o he_o say_v some_o do_v affirm_v quidam_fw-la asserunt_fw-la be_v that_o those_o which_o be_v salvandi_fw-la to_o be_v save_v hereafter_o be_v either_o in_o darkness_n or_o in_o a_o purgatory_n fire_n which_o therefore_o must_v be_v mean_v of_o the_o interval_n for_o after_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n be_v pass_v and_o the_o book_n shut_v and_o the_o sentence_n pronounce_v none_o can_v be_v save_v that_o be_v not_o then_o acquit_v unless_o origen_n opinion_n of_o the_o salvation_n of_o devil_n and_o damn_a soul_n be_v reintroduce_v which_o the_o church_n before_o otho_n many_o age_n have_v explode_v and_o therefore_o so_o good_a and_o great_a a_o person_n will_v not_o have_v think_v that_o fit_a to_o be_v then_o dispute_v and_o it_o be_v not_o then_o a_o question_n nor_o a_o thing_n undetermined_a in_o the_o church_n 4._o whether_o otho_n mean_v it_o of_o a_o purgatory_n before_o or_o after_o the_o day_n of_o the_o last_o judgement_n it_o make_v very_o much_o against_o the_o present_a roman_a doctrine_n for_o otho_n apply_v the_o question_n to_o the_o case_n of_o infant_n die_v without_o baptism_n now_o if_o their_o purgatory_n be_v before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n than_o i_o quote_v otho_n according_a to_o my_o own_o sense_n and_o he_o but_o if_o he_o mean_v it_o 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