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their_o proper_a bishop_n be_v to_o be_v apply_v 22._o 4._o sotus_n l._n 10_o the_o just_a &_o jure_fw-la q_o 3_o be_v 4._o that_o this_o be_v sotus_n his_o opinion_n it_o may_v appear_v also_o by_o other_o place_n as_o where_o he_o say_v cum_fw-la enim_fw-la ius_fw-la divinum_fw-la sit_fw-la ut_fw-la unicuique_fw-la suus_fw-la mancipetur_fw-la episcopus_fw-la idgue_n ut_fw-la demonstratum_fw-la est_fw-la propter_fw-la peculiarem_fw-la curam_fw-la &_o vigilantiam_fw-la quae_fw-la eidem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la est_fw-la necessaria_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o see_v that_o it_o be_v the_o divine_a law_n that_o to_o every_o diocese_n it_o be_v own_o bishop_n shall_v be_v mancipate_v or_o bind_v he_o say_v not_o only_o that_o in_o general_a there_o must_v by_o the_o divine_a law_n be_v some_o bishop_n in_o the_o church_n but_o also_o that_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n to_o every_o diocese_n it_o be_v own_o bishop_n must_v be_v bind_v and_o mancipate_v and_o then_o he_o give_v the_o reason_n 1._o 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notable_a reason_n because_o the_o office_n of_o a_o pastor_n be_v to_o attend_v with_o a_o vigilant_a eye_n to_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o flock_n but_o the_o supreme_a pastor_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o look_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n unless_o he_o ordain_v to_o each_o diocese_n a_o bishop_n and_o unless_o the_o bishop_n constitute_v parish_n priest_n to_o the_o parochial_a church_n so_o that_o see_v the_o pope_n be_v bind_v by_o the_o divine_a law_n to_o have_v care_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o that_o according_a to_o sotus_n he_o can_v look_v sufficient_o to_o the_o church_n unless_o he_o appoint_v to_o each_o diocese_n a_o bishop_n it_o follow_v in_o sotus_n his_o opinion_n that_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n he_o be_v bind_v to_o give_v every_o diocese_n his_o bishop_n as_o the_o bishop_n be_v bind_v to_o give_v to_o every_o parish_n its_o pastor_n 23._o but_o m._n nicholas_n n._n 10._o say_v that_o sotus_n also_o say_v that_o sacramental_a absolution_n and_o the_o like_a be_v to_o be_v esteem_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v a_o madness_n out_o of_o these_o word_n to_o infer_v that_o the_o minister_n be_v bind_v by_o the_o divine_a law_n to_o administer_v sacrament_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n though_o man_n dispense_v they_o and_o so_o according_a to_o sotus_n that_o every_o church_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n it_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n though_o the_o pope_n elect_v he_o this_o be_v the_o scope_n of_o sotus_n as_o appear_v by_o these_o word_n nunquid_fw-la propterea_fw-la quod_fw-la per_fw-la ministerium_fw-la dei_fw-la etc._n etc._n be_v it_o therefore_o any_o consequence_n that_o the_o application_n be_v not_o divine_a because_o it_o be_v do_v by_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n and_o m._n nicholas_n out_o of_o this_o can_v infer_v any_o thing_n for_o his_o purpose_n 24._o now_o whether_o all_o this_o which_o sotus_n say_v be_v true_a or_o no_o m._n doctor_n do_v not_o examine_v he_o intend_v only_o to_o show_v that_o his_o own_o
assertion_n pag._n 376._o n._n 2._o which_o affirm_v it_o to_o be_v the_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n such_o as_o be_v england_n spain_n france_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n be_v moderate_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o assertion_n of_o sotus_n who_o say_v that_o every_o diocese_n by_o the_o divine_a law_n in_o the_o aforesayed_a sense_n must_v have_v its_o bishop_n and_o to_o this_o purpose_n only_o he_o cite_v sotus_n and_o therefore_o that_o be_v not_o modest_o nor_o true_o say_v of_o m._n nicholas_n but_o odiouslie_o and_o not_o so_o charitable_o as_o may_v be_v expect_v of_o he_o in_o the_o 10._o number_n towards_o the_o end_n where_o he_o he_o say_v final_o m._n doctor_n i_o doubt_v not_o will_v be_v more_o circumspect_a in_o allege_v author_n lest_o he_o do_v wrong_v his_o own_o reputation_n the_o author_n themselves_o the_o reader_n and_o most_o of_o all_o the_o truth_n rather_o m._n nicholas_n shall_v have_v be_v more_o modest_a and_o more_o careful_a of_o the_o truth_n in_o his_o word_n for_o that_o m._n doctor_n do_v not_o say_v so_o much_o as_o sotus_n do_v as_o m._n nicholas_n will_v make_v he_o but_o only_a allege_v he_o to_o show_v that_o this_o assertion_n in_o respect_n of_o that_o of_o sotus_n be_v moderate_a m._n doctor_n affirm_v only_o that_o it_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n such_o as_o england_n france_n spain_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n sotus_n aver_n that_o by_o the_o same_o divine_a law_n every_o diocese_n ought_v to_o have_v its_o bishop_n which_o be_v much_o more_o than_o m._n doctor_n say_v and_o that_o this_o be_v sotus_n his_o opinion_n be_v show_v out_o of_o his_o word_n and_o so_o not_o m._n doctor_n but_o m._n nicholas_n allege_v author_n contrary_a to_o their_o meaning_n master_n nicholas_n the_o second_o author_n allege_v by_o m._n doctor_n be_v banne_n say_v that_o bishop_n can_v by_o the_o pope_n be_v remove_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n or_o a_o great_a or_o notable_a part_n thereof_o i_o wonder_v m._n doctor_n will_v allege_v this_o learned_a divine_a etc._n etc._n num_fw-la 11._o reply_n bannes_n his_o opinion_n concern_v that_o point_n whether_o it_o be_v a_o divine_a law_n that_o cuerie_n notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n must_v have_v its_o bishop_n and_o whether_o bannes_n make_v for_o m._n nicholas_n ult._n bann_n 2.2_o q._n 1._o be_v 10_o concl._n 6._o add_v ult._n and_o against_o m._n doctor_n 25._o to_o this_o i_o shall_v endeavour_v to_o answer_v with_o much_o more_o moderation_n then_o m._n nicholas_n use_v i_o answer_v they_o that_o m._n doctor_n do_v not_o allege_v banne_n to_o prove_v that_o every_o particular_a church_n of_o diocese_n be_v to_o have_v a_o bishop_n neither_o do_v m._n doctor_n ever_o say_v so_o as_o m._n nicholas_n himself_o observe_v n._n 14._o but_o he_o allege_v the_o sense_n of_o that_o author_n as_o he_o do_v of_o sotus_n to_o show_v that_o his_o assertion_n or_o opinion_n be_v moderate_a and_o that_o which_o be_v cite_v as_o the_o sense_n of_o banne_n be_v manifest_o there_o in_o these_o word_n non_fw-la tamen_fw-la admittendum_fw-la est_fw-la quòd_fw-la in_o tota_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la aut_fw-la in_o magna_fw-la eius_fw-la parte_fw-la tam_fw-la temere_fw-la pontifex_fw-la sva_fw-la potestate_fw-la abutatur_fw-la yet_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v that_o the_o pope_n in_o the_o whole_a church_n or_o in_o a_o great_a part_n of_o it_o shall_v so_o rash_o abuse_v his_o authority_n and_o what_o be_v this_o but_o what_o m._n doctor_n say_v to_o wit_n that_o bishop_n according_a to_o banne_n can_v be_v remove_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n or_o a_o great_a or_o notable_a part_n of_o it_o and_o further_o that_o bamnes_n do_v believe_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v not_o do_v this_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o divine_a law_n it_o be_v easy_o gather_v by_o the_o example_n he_o bring_v and_o by_o those_o word_n tam_fw-la temerè_fw-la sva_fw-la potestate_fw-la abutatur_fw-la that_o he_o shall_v so_o rash_o abuse_v his_o authority_n for_o be_v it_o a_o ecclesiastical_a impediment_n and_o law_n he_o can_v take_v it_o away_o that_o bannes_n say_v the_o pope_n may_v remove_v one_o bishop_n and_o not_o appoint_v another_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v against_o sotus_n but_o not_o against_o m._n doctor_n who_o say_v not_o that_o every_o diocese_n must_v have_v by_o the_o divine_a law_n a_o bishop_n but_o only_o that_o at_o lest_o every_o notable_a part_n as_o england_n france_n etc._n etc._n be_v to_o have_v a_o bishop_n by_o the_o divine_a precept_n yet_o neither_o do_v bannes_n herein_o plain_o contradict_v sotus_n because_o sotus_n will_v also_o grant_v that_o it_o pertain_v to_o the_o pope_n to_o divide_v diocese_n and_o to_o make_v they_o great_a or_o less_o and_o so_o to_o make_v of_o two_o one_o and_o consequent_o he_o will_v grant_v to_o banne_n that_o the_o pope_n may_v take_v from_o a_o diocese_n its_o proper_a bishop_n which_o it_o have_v and_o subject_v it_o to_o another_o bishop_n by_o make_v it_o part_n of_o his_o diocese_n only_a sotus_n say_v that_o suppose_v the_o division_n of_o diocese_n make_v by_o the_o church_n it_o be_v of_o christ_n institution_n and_o the_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o diocese_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n m._n nicholas_n the_o reason_n that_o m._n doctor_n do_v infer_v from_o the_o say_v authority_n make_v for_o he_o just_a as_o they_o do_v it_o be_v this_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n etc._n etc._n n._n 12._o the_o truth_n in_o the_o foresay_v point_n set_v a_o side_n opinion_n of_o author_n 26._o before_o i_o show_v the_o force_n of_o m._n doctor_n argument_n and_o the_o fault_n of_o m._n nicholas_n his_o manner_n of_o argue_v i_o shall_v explicate_v and_o confirm_v m._n doctor_n his_o assertion_n by_o which_o he_o aver_v that_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n in_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n there_o must_v be_v a_o bishop_n which_o i_o shall_v easy_o do_v suppose_v m._n doctor_n ground_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o church_n must_v not_o be_v govern_v by_o one_o only_a supreme_a bishop_n but_o also_o by_o other_o particular_a bishop_n who_o be_v to_o govern_v particular_a church_n because_o the_o supreme_a bishop_n alone_o can_v by_v himself_o govern_v the_o church_n and_o because_o the_o church_n be_v a_o hierarchy_n this_o ground_n m._n doctor_n have_v prove_v in_o his_o 9_o chapter_n of_o his_o hierarchy_n where_o he_o have_v show_v how_o bishop_n &_o inferior_a pastor_n be_v to_o govern_v the_o church_n to_o preach_v and_o administer_v sacrament_n second_o in_o his_o 12._o chapter_n where_o he_o have_v prove_v that_o bishop_n be_v so_o necessary_a in_o the_o church_n that_o it_o can_v subsist_v without_o they_o and_o thirdlie_o in_o his_o 13._o chapter_n where_o he_o have_v can_v we_o how_o even_o in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n though_o it_o be_v the_o great_a for_o the_o bishop_n presence_n the_o church_n be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v govern_v by_o bishop_n whence_o it_o be_v consequent_a that_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n the_o church_n must_v be_v govern_v by_o bishop_n and_o that_o in_o general_a there_o must_v be_v particular_a bishop_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n which_o m._n nicholas_n also_o grant_v with_o suarez_n n._n 17._o and_o why_o be_v bishop_n necessary_a but_o to_o govern_v to_o preach_v and_o minister_v sacrament_n 27._o out_o of_o which_o assure_a ground_n i_o argue_v in_o this_o manner_n there_o must_v be_v by_o the_o divine_a law_n bishop_n in_o the_o church_n to_o govern_v it_o and_o consequent_o as_o many_o as_o may_v suffice_v to_o supply_v the_o necessity_n the_o church_n have_v of_o government_n preach_v and_o sacrament_n therefore_o by_o the_o same_o divine_a institution_n and_o precept_n there_o must_v be_v at_o lest_o a_o bishop_n in_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n such_o as_o be_v france_n spain_n england_n for_o that_o few_o will_v not_o suffice_v one_o bishop_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o serve_v all_o france_n england_n &_o spain_n and_o in_o particular_a to_o confirm_v by_o the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n all_o french_a and_o english_a 28._o i_o instance_n in_o confirmation_n because_o other_o sacrament_n may_v more_o easy_o be_v in_o some_o sort_n supply_v without_o a_o bishop_n especial_o in_o the_o country_n for_o that_o neither_o the_o english_a can_v go_v all_o into_o france_n nor_o all_o the_o french_a into_o england_n to_o receive_v confirmation_n neither_o can_v one_o bishop_n go_v to_o one_o country_n to_o serve_v it_o of_o confirmation_n without_o prejudice_n to_o the_o other_o country_n nor_o can_v he_o be_v but_o one_o suffice_v for_o so_o many_o wherefore_o england_n must_v have_v its_o own_o bishop_n france_z its_z own_o spain_n it_o be_v own_o and_o so_o of_o the_o rest_n if_o
they_o be_v notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n all_o have_v the_o like_a necessity_n and_o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n of_o one_o which_o be_v of_o another_o and_o so_o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o 14._o chapter_n n._n 2._o pag._n 376._o argue_v well_o from_o the_o like_a necessity_n in_o this_o manner_n by_o the_o divine_a law_n there_o must_v be_v particular_a bishop_n in_o the_o church_n to_o supply_v the_o necessity_n of_o particular_a church_n but_o there_o be_v no_o more_o reason_n why_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o france_n for_o he_o speak_v especial_o of_o great_a particular_a church_n which_o be_v notable_a part_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v be_v govern_v by_o a_o bishop_n or_o bishop_n more_o or_o few_o according_a to_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o country_n rather_o than_o the_o church_n of_o spain_n or_o the_o church_n of_o england_n ergo_fw-la france_n spain_n and_o england_n and_o all_o other_o such_o particular_a church_n of_o extent_n must_v be_v govern_v by_o bishop_n and_o every_o one_o by_o his_o own_o all_o have_v the_o like_a necessity_n 29._o m._n nicholas_n numer_n 12._o wonder_v that_o a_o learned_a man_n shall_v use_v such_o a_o form_n of_o argument_n and_o therefore_o to_o make_v a_o show_n against_o this_o argument_n of_o m._n doctor_n be_v bring_v other_o argument_n very_o ridiculous_a which_o though_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o the_o ignorant_a to_o be_v like_a yet_o indeed_o be_v not_o so_o like_a as_o chalk_n and_o cheise_n his_o first_o argument_n of_o diverse_a meat_n do_v argue_v that_o he_o be_v hungry_a for_o want_v of_o argument_n else_o he_o will_v not_o have_v make_v use_n of_o one_o so_o weak_a and_o lean_a thus_o he_o argue_v some_o meat_n be_v necessary_a for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o man_n but_o there_o be_v no_o more_o reason_n why_o egg_n or_o fish_n shall_v be_v necessary_a rather_o than_o other_o particular_a meat_n ergo_fw-la egg_n fish_n and_o all_o meat_n be_v necessary_a 30._o but_o i_o marvel_v that_o m._n nicholas_n if_o he_o be_v learned_a can_v not_o see_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o his_o own_o and_o m._n doctor_n argument_n for_o that_o he_o arargu_v from_o the_o necessity_n of_o some_o indeterminate_a mean_n to_o the_o necessity_n of_o some_o determinate_a mean_n master_n doctor_n argue_v from_o like_a end_n to_o the_o like_a necessary_a mean_n the_o first_o manner_n of_o argue_v which_o master_n nicholas_n use_v be_v ridiculous_a for_o it_o follow_v not_o meat_n which_o be_v a_o indeterminate_a mean_a be_v necessary_a for_o man_n life_n ergo_fw-la this_o meat_n bishop_n be_v necessary_a in_o the_o church_n ergo_fw-la this_o bishop_n in_o particular_a marriage_n of_o some_o man_n be_v necessary_a to_o maintain_v lawful_o mankind_n ergo_fw-la this_o man_n must_v marry_v m._n doctor_n manner_n of_o argue_v be_v good_a and_o solid_a for_o that_o it_o be_v ground_v in_o parity_n and_o equality_n of_o reason_n 5._o lib._n 1._o post_n or_o c._n 4._o &_o 5._o or_o in_o this_o 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be_v become_v to_o be_v master_n and_o in_o the_o state_n of_o the_o perfecter_n of_o other_o than_o poverty_n say_v he_o be_v not_o require_v at_o their_o hand_n yea_o it_o be_v convenient_a that_o they_o shall_v have_v good_n thereby_o to_o help_v the_o poor_a and_o to_o give_v example_n of_o charity_n and_o therefore_o say_v he_o pag._n 216._o christ_n who_o exact_v poverty_n of_o the_o young_a man_n mat._n 19_o exact_v only_o of_o s._n peter_n when_o he_o make_v he_o pastor_n charity_n joan._n 21._o and_o although_o they_o be_v not_o at_o first_o bishop_n and_o pastor_n yet_o because_o they_o be_v short_o to_o be_v it_o be_v not_o requisite_a say_v the_o same_o bishop_n that_o while_o they_o be_v disciple_n they_o shall_v vow_v poverty_n and_o then_o conclude_v thus_o sub_fw-la correctione_n matris_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la existimo_fw-la nullum_fw-la votum_fw-la expressè_fw-la apostolos_fw-la emisisse_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la legitur_fw-la in_o scriptura_fw-la sacrae_fw-la secutos_fw-la tamen_fw-la consilia_fw-la euangelica_fw-la quia_fw-la perfectissimi_fw-la erant_fw-la etc._n etc._n 887._o saron_n 1._o p._n defensionü_fw-la pag._n 887._o under_o correction_n of_o our_o mother_n the_o church_n i_o think_v that_o the_o apostle_n make_v no_o vow_n expresselie_o because_o it_o be_v not_o read_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n yet_o that_o they_o follow_v the_o euangelical_n counsel_n because_o they_o be_v most_o perfect_a etc._n etc._n and_o so_o according_a to_o the_o opinion_n of_o this_o learned_a bishop_n the_o apostle_n be_v not_o religious_a because_o they_o make_v no_o vow_n 74._o 2._o in_o opusc_n §_o 1._o dnb._fw-la 2._o vasquez_n say_v that_o by_o the_o fact_n of_o the_o apostle_n nothing_o certain_a in_o this_o matter_n can_v be_v prove_v but_o only_o that_o it_o be_v not_o needful_a as_o we_o have_v prove_v that_o they_o shall_v follow_v poverty_n by_o vow_n but_o by_o counsel_n they_o follow_v it_o while_o they_o be_v under_o the_o teach_n of_o 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they_o be_v religious_a because_o vow_n be_v necessary_a to_o make_v one_o religious_a 5._o vasqis_fw-la to_o 2._o in_o 1.2_o disput_fw-la 164._o c._n 5._o yet_o the_o same_o author_n i_o confess_v in_o another_o place_n think_v that_o the_o apostle_n vow_v the_o counsel_n 75._o and_o although_o many_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o church_n present_o after_o the_o descension_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n lâ—uâ—d_v in_o common_a ioca_fw-la acto_fw-la 2._o &_o 4._o in_o illa_fw-la ioca_fw-la yet_o as_o estius_n &_o bartholomaeus_n petrus_n lintrensis_n affirm_v it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o say_v that_o all_o of_o â—hâ—left_v the_o propriety_n of_o all_o they_o have_v it_o be_v only_o a_o counsel_n and_o some_o of_o these_o christias_n say_v these_o two_o author_n have_v wâ—uâ—s_n and_o child_n and_o so_o can_v not_o leave_v all_o but_o do_v only_o contribute_v to_o the_o community_n &_o so_o say_v they_o all_o be_v common_a among_o they_o all_o as_o all_o thing_n be_v common_a among_o 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the_o place_n of_o scripture_n allege_v there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o vow_n and_o yet_o they_o who_o hold_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v religious_a out_o of_o this_o place_n especial_o prove_v the_o three_o vow_n of_o religion_n and_o see_v that_o without_o vow_n a_o man_n can_v be_v religious_a if_o out_o of_o this_o place_n it_o can_v not_o as_o caietan_n think_v be_v prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n vow_v it_o can_v not_o out_o of_o this_o place_n be_v prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v religious_a vow_n be_v necessary_a to_o make_v a_o man_n religious_a 79._o 5._o suarez_n to_o 3._o de_fw-fr relig._n l._n 2._o c._n 15._o n_o 13.14_o 15.16_o vasqu_n to_o 2._o in_o 1.2_o disp_n 164._o c._n 4._o &_o 5._o but_o suppose_v the_o apostle_n and_o first_o christian_n vow_v yet_o do_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v religious_a for_o that_o as_o suarez_n and_o vasquez_n do_v confess_v the_o three_o vow_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o make_v one_o a_o relig_n ous_a man_n but_o the_o order_n and_o institute_n must_v be_v approve_v either_o by_o the_o bishop_n in_o his_o diocese_n as_o ancienthe_n it_o be_v or_o by_o the_o pope_n as_o afterward_o be_v decree_v and_o the_o religious_a his_o vow_n must_v be_v accept_v of_o the_o superior_a who_o have_v jurisdiction_n over_o he_o and_o authority_n to_o receive_v his_o vow_n and_o what_o certainty_n be_v there_o that_o the_o apostle_n and_o first_o christian_n live_v in_o a_o order_n approve_v by_o christ_n or_o s._n peter_n or_o that_o their_o vow_n be_v accept_v by_o christ_n or_o s._n peter_n as_o sufficient_a to_o make_v they_o religious_a see_v that_o hâ—ly_a scripture_n say_v nothing_o of_o any_o such_o acceptation_n 80._o 9_o suarez_n to_o 3._o l._n 3_o de_fw-la auttore_fw-la &_o orig_n &_o antiqu_fw-la status_fw-la relig_n c._n 2._o â—_o 9_o i_o confess_v that_o the_o learned_a suarez_n defend_v that_o the_o apostle_n vow_v poverty_n chastity_n &_o obedience_n and_o be_v religious_a &_o that_o christ_n not_o only_o institute_v a_o religious_a state_n in_o general_a in_o regard_n of_o the_o three_o counsel_n but_o also_o make_v a_o religion_n in_o particular_a to_o which_o he_o call_v the_o apostle_n eye_v proprium_fw-la &_o particularem_fw-la modum_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la religiosae_fw-la tribuendo_fw-la give_v to_o they_o a_o proper_a and_o particular_a manner_n of_o live_v 10._o nu._n 10._o and_o this_o particular_a manner_n of_o live_v he_o say_v consist_v in_o a_o life_n mix_v partly_o contemplative_a partly_o active_a in_o endeavour_v the_o conversion_n of_o soul_n but_o yet_o his_o proof_n out_o of_o scripture_n do_v only_o prove_v that_o chariste_n institute_v the_o counsel_n and_o commend_v they_o what_o he_o allege_v out_o of_o some_o author_n proove_v only_o that_o the_o apostle_n vow_v the_o counsel_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o make_v they_o religious_a as_o we_o have_v see_v what_o he_o bring_v out_o of_o other_o author_n only_o prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n 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be_v true_a that_o christ_n be_v head_n to_o the_o apostle_n and_o
denys_n then_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n speak_v of_o those_o who_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n recken_v only_o the_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n and_o say_v that_o the_o bishop_n office_n be_v to_o perfect_a the_o priest_n to_o illuminate_v the_o deacon_n to_o purge_v and_o in_o the_o say_a chapter_n in_o his_o contemplation_n he_o tell_v how_o they_o all_o three_o be_v ordain_v and_o the_o bishop_n he_o say_v be_v the_o first_o and_o chief_a order_n in_o who_o the_o rest_n be_v consummate_v for_o say_v he_o as_o the_o whole_a hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n be_v consummate_v in_o the_o chief_a hierarch_n and_o bishop_n christ_n so_o every_o spiritual_a and_o particular_a hierarchy_n that_o be_v every_o particular_a church_n be_v terminate_v and_o consummate_v in_o its_o proper_a bishop_n which_o may_v be_v note_v against_o m._n nicholas_n who_o will_v have_v a_o particular_a church_n without_o a_o particular_a bishop_n so_o that_o s._n denys_n 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dignity_n but_o when_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o three_o order_n of_o they_o that_o be_v perfect_v the_o name_n order_n signify_v no_o name_n of_o dignity_n but_o rather_o be_v a_o name_n of_o subjection_n 15._o s._n denys_n in_o that_o sixth_o chapter_n say_v that_o the_o order_n of_o those_o who_o be_v perfect_v be_v in_o general_n three_o the_o last_o as_o dionysius_n carthusianus_n explicate_v to_o wit_n they_o that_o be_v purge_v be_v 5._o that_o be_v catechumenes_n energumenes_n apostate_n vicious_a infirm_a and_o timide_a or_o fearful_a person_n the_o next_o above_o they_o be_v the_o people_n baptize_v and_o admit_v to_o the_o sacred_a euchariste_n the_o high_a order_n of_o those_o that_o be_v perfect_v be_v the_o monk_n and_o religious_a who_o therefore_o be_v call_v according_a to_o the_o translation_n of_o lanselius_n summus_n corum_fw-la qui_fw-la initiantur_fw-la &_o perficiuntur_fw-la ordo_fw-la the_o chief_a order_n of_o those_o that_o be_v initiate_v and_o perfect_v not_o the_o chief_a in_o the_o church_n because_o s._n denys_n place_v bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n before_o they_o but_o the_o first_o of_o those_o who_o be_v initiate_v and_o perfect_v dion_n cart._n say_v that_o the_o order_n of_o monk_n be_v perfectus_fw-la inter_fw-la perficiendos_fw-la perfect_a amongst_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v perfect_v but_o not_o amongst_o those_o that_o perfect_a other_o 6._o art_n 13._o super_fw-la that_o 6._o 16._o all_o this_o may_v be_v confirm_v by_o what_o s._n denys_n say_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o demophilus_n monk_n where_o check_v he_o for_o have_v kick_v a_o penitent_a who_o be_v confess_v to_o the_o priest_n and_o for_o contemptuouslie_o use_v the_o priest_n himself_o he_o take_v he_o up_o in_o these_o word_n nefas_fw-la est_fw-la sacerdorem_fw-la a_o ministris_fw-la qui_fw-la to_o superiores_fw-la sunt_fw-la aut_fw-la à _fw-la tui_fw-la ordinis_fw-la monachis_fw-la corrigi_fw-la &_o reprehendi_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a that_o a_o priest_n shall_v be_v correct_v or_o reprehend_v by_o the_o minister_n who_o be_v above_o thou_o or_o of_o the_o monk_n of_o they_o order_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o give_v the_o reason_n say_v sacerdotes_fw-la autem_fw-la nuncij_fw-la atque_fw-la interpretes_n secundum_fw-la pontifices_fw-la sunt_fw-la dininorum_fw-la iudiciorum_fw-la ab_fw-la eye_v rectè_fw-la &_o ordine_fw-la tâ—_n per_fw-la medios_fw-la interiectosque_fw-la ministros_fw-la cum_fw-la tempus_fw-la posiulabit_fw-la divina_fw-la disce_fw-la à _fw-la quibus_fw-la etiam_fw-la ut_fw-la monachus_fw-la esses_fw-la habuisti_fw-la an_fw-mi non_fw-la hoc_fw-la etiam_fw-la clamant_fw-la sacramysteria_fw-it neque_fw-la enim_fw-la planè_fw-la omnibus_fw-la aditus_fw-la ad_fw-la sancta_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la interdictus_fw-la est_fw-la sed_fw-la proximè_fw-la ad_fw-la ea_fw-la accedit_fw-la pontificum_fw-la ordo_fw-la deinde_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la tum_fw-la secundum_fw-la hos_fw-la ministrorum_fw-la ijs_fw-la autem_fw-la 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denis_n his_o work_n into_o french_a he_o in_o his_o apollogie_n for_o these_o work_n in_o answer_v a_o objection_n make_v by_o scaliger_n against_o they_o have_v these_o word_n 74._o chap._n 13._o pag._n 74._o rour_n l'intelligence_n de_fw-fr ce_fw-fr que_fw-fr nous_fw-fr disons_fw-fr faut_fw-fr supposer_n que_fw-fr saint_n denis_n voulant_fw-la montrer_fw-fr le_fw-fr bell_n order_fw-fr qui_fw-fr est_fw-fr en_fw-fr la_fw-fr hierarchy_n de_fw-fr l'eglise_fw-fr divise_fw-mi tout_fw-fr le_fw-fr peuple_fw-fr chrestien_n en_fw-fr deux_fw-fr party_n dont_fw-fr l'vne_n est_fw-fr celle_fw-fr du_fw-fr clergé_fw-fr l'autre_fw-fr est_fw-fr du_fw-fr peuple_fw-fr laique_fw-fr il_fw-fr distingue_fw-fr tout_fw-fr le_fw-fr clergé_fw-fr en_fw-fr trois_fw-fr ordres_n le_fw-fr premier_fw-fr esi_fw-la celuy_fw-fr des_fw-fr euesques_n l'autre_fw-fr des_fw-fr prestre_n &_o le_v tier_n de_fw-fr liturge_n etc._n etc._n for_o the_o understanding_n of_o this_o which_o we_o say_v it_o must_v be_v suppose_v that_o s._n denys_n intend_v to_o show_v the_o goodly_a order_n which_o be_v in_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n devide_v all_o the_o christian_a people_n into_o two_o part_n of_o which_o the_o one_o be_v that_o of_o the_o clergy_n the_o other_o of_o the_o lie_v people_n he_o distinguish_v all_o the_o clergy_n into_o three_o order_n the_o first_o be_v that_o of_o the_o bishop_n the_o other_o of_o priest_n and_o the_o three_o of_o the_o liturge_n that_o be_v deacon_n to_o who_o the_o other_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n be_v reduce_v he_o distribu_v the_o people_n in_o like_a manner_n into_o three_o quire_n the_o first_o be_v that_o of_o catechumenes_n energumenes_n and_o penstent_n the_o second_o part_n be_v that_o which_o be_v the_o holy_a people_n and_o the_o three_o be_v of_o the_o monk_n and_o because_o that_o all_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n consist_v in_o three_o thing_n either_o in_o purge_v or_o illuminate_v or_o perfect_v or_o in_o be_v purge_v illuminate_v or_o perfect_v therefore_o he_o s._n denys_n call_v the_o order_n of_o liturge_n deacon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d purgative_a order_n that_o of_o priest_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d illuminative_a and_o that_o of_o the_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d
〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d perfective_a or_o perfect_a respectivelie_o he_o s._n denys_n call_v the_o catechumenes_n energuman_n and_o penitent_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o order_n that_o be_v purge_v the_o sole_o people_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d illuminate_v and_o the_o order_n of_o monk_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d perfect_v 18._o and_o a_o little_a after_o this_o author_n add_v voylà _fw-fr do_n premierement_n comme_fw-fr il_fw-fr constitue_n les_fw-fr moyne_n entrele_n peuple_fw-fr laique_fw-fr qui_fw-fr esloient_fw-fr ceux_fw-fr qui_fw-fr faisoyent_n profession_n d'vne_n plus_fw-fr grande_fw-fr perfection_n que_fw-fr les_fw-fr autres_fw-fr &_o d'vne_n vie_fw-fr plus_fw-fr devote_v &_o spirituelle_fw-fr renonçans_fw-fr anx_n affection_n &_o soucis_fw-la dâ—s_fw-la choses_fw-fr de_fw-fr ce_fw-fr monde_fw-fr se_fw-fr devoüan_n &_o consacrans_fw-la totalement_fw-fr au_fw-fr service_n de_fw-fr dieu_fw-fr etc._n etc._n behold_v then_o first_o of_o all_o how_o he_o s._n denys_n place_v the_o monk_n amongst_o the_o lay_a people_n which_o monk_n be_v they_o who_o make_v profession_n of_o a_o great_a perfection_n than_o other_o and_o of_o a_o life_n more_o denoute_n and_o spiritual_a renounce_v the_o affection_n and_o care_n of_o the_o thing_n of_o this_o world_n vow_v and_o consecrate_v themselves_o whole_o to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n 6._o l._n de_fw-fr hier._n eccl._n c_o 6._o &c_n &c_n and_o after_o that_o to_o wit_n in_o the_o page_n 76._o and_o 77._o he_o relate_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n how_o the_o priest_n that_o be_v under_o the_o bishop_n have_v the_o office_n to_o consecrate_v the_o monk_n who_o make_v say_v he_o their_o profession_n entre_fw-fr les_fw-fr mains_fw-fr des_fw-fr prestre_n â—â—_o dessoub_n des_fw-fr euesques_n betwixt_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o priest_n under_o the_o bishop_n and_o pag._n 78._o this_o author_n show_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o demophilus_n how_o the_o rank_n and_o place_n of_o the_o monk_n in_o publicque_a assembly_n be_v with_o the_o lay_a people_n though_o as_o we_o have_v see_v they_o be_v above_o the_o people_n and_o under_o the_o clergy_n and_o say_v this_o author_n leur_fw-fr estoit_fw-fr deffendu_fw-fr d'entrer_fw-fr dans_fw-fr le_fw-fr presbytere_o it_o be_v ferbidden_v they_o to_o enter_v into_o the_o presbytery_n all_o which_o and_o more_o s._n denys_n himself_o have_v in_o his_o five_o and_o sixth_o chapter_n of_o his_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n as_o may_v partly_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o i_o have_v allege_v out_o of_o those_o two_o chapter_n 19_o by_o this_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o according_a to_o s._n denys_n and_o as_o he_o understand_v the_o word_n hierarchy_n the_o regulars_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o be_v of_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o govern_v the_o rest_n and_o minister_v sacrament_n and_o preach_v and_o thereby_o purge_v illuminate_v and_o perfect_v which_o as_o s._n denys_n say_v be_v the_o proper_a action_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o be_v call_v hierarchicall_a action_n which_o also_o be_v exercise_v in_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o angel_n in_o which_o the_o superior_a order_n illuminate_v purge_v and_o perfect_v the_o inferior_a and_o therefore_o in_o s._n denis_n his_o time_n regular_o take_v their_o place_n beneath_o the_o clergy_n and_o above_o the_o lay_a people_n and_o although_o in_o late_a time_n the_o regulars_n enjoy_v the_o clericall_a privilege_n and_o be_v more_o frequent_o ordain_v subdiacon_n deacon_n priest_n yea_o and_o bishop_n and_o as_o such_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n yet_o as_o regulars_n they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o s._n denys_n his_o opinion_n for_o then_o in_o his_o time_n also_o they_o shall_v have_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o m._n nicholas_n who_o tell_v we_o that_o many_o who_o never_o read_v s._n denys_n be_v forward_o to_o discourse_v of_o the_o clergy_n as_o though_o they_o only_o be_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n show_v that_o he_o either_o never_o read_v or_o understand_v not_o s._n denys_n who_o will_v have_v regular_o to_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o even_o according_a to_o s._n denys_n his_o opinion_n 20._o and_o thus_o i_o hope_v i_o have_v bring_v sufficient_a proof_n out_o of_o s._n denys_n to_o exclude_v regular_o as_o regular_o from_o the_o govern_n and_o perfect_a hierarchy_n though_o i_o grante_v they_o to_o be_v eminent_a member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v a_o hierarchy_n to_o wit_n in_o like_a manner_n as_o they_o be_v member_n and_o subject_n of_o the_o kingdom_n who_o though_o eminent_a bear_v no_o rule_n in_o it_o and_o see_v that_o as_o m._n nicholas_n confess_v what_o other_o doctor_n even_o s._n thomas_n of_o aquin_n say_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n they_o rake_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n his_o authority_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o they_o all_o 21._o secondlie_o i_o add_v to_o s._n denis_n and_o his_o translatour_n and_o expositor_n a_o reason_n or_o two_o and_o my_o first_o shall_v be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n allege_v in_o my_o reply_n to_o this_o question_n n._n 7._o the_o council_n define_v that_o there_o be_v a_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o church_n which_o consist_v of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n 6._o sesse_n 23_o can_n 6._o but_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n be_v neither_o bishop_n priest_n nor_o minister_n ergo_fw-la they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o the_o council_n of_o trout_n take_v the_o word_n hierarchy_n the_o minor_a proposition_n i_o have_v prove_v in_o that_o number_n and_o so_o the_o conclusion_n must_v follow_v 22._o my_o second_o reason_n which_o exclude_v they_o from_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o meaning_n of_o s._n denis_n shall_v be_v this_o they_o who_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n must_v sympathize_v with_o that_o part_n which_o be_v confessedlie_o of_o it_o to_o wit_n with_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n in_o their_o manner_n of_o life_n and_o profession_n in_o their_o action_n and_o function_n but_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n do_v lead_v a_o life_n altogether_o different_a from_o the_o life_n of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n and_o their_o action_n and_o function_n be_v as_o different_a ergo_fw-la regulars_n as_o regulars_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n the_o mayor_n or_o first_o proposition_n be_v evident_a for_o that_o all_o who_o be_v of_o the_o same_o art_n or_o trade_n or_o the_o same_o science_n or_o profession_n do_v agree_v in_o action_n function_n and_o manner_n of_o life_n and_o therefore_o lawyer_n agree_v in_o plead_v and_o give_v counsel_n physician_n be_v busy_v in_o prescribe_v and_o minister_a physic_n carpenter_n work_n in_o timber_n mason_n in_o stone_n etc._n etc._n 23._o the_o minor_a and_o second_o proposition_n to_o wit_n that_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n do_v differ_v in_o action_n function_n and_o manner_n of_o life_n i_o shall_v prove_v out_o of_o s._n 82._o amb._n l._n 9_o ep._n 82._o ambrose_n s._n chrysostome_n and_o other_o author_n of_o good_a authority_n and_o so_o the_o conclusion_n must_v follow_v s._n ambrose_n in_o a_o epistle_n to_o they_o of_o vercelles_n compare_v the_o state_n of_o the_o clergy_n with_o that_o of_o the_o regulars_n say_v namque_fw-la hac_fw-la duo_fw-la in_o attentiore_fw-la christianorum_fw-la devotione_fw-la praestantiora_fw-la esse_fw-la quis_fw-la ambigat_fw-la clericorum_fw-la officia_fw-la &_o monachorum_fw-la instituta_fw-la ista_fw-la ad_fw-la comitatem_fw-la &_o moralitatem_fw-la disciplina_fw-la illa_fw-la ad_fw-la abstinentiam_fw-la assuefacta_fw-la atque_fw-la patientiam_fw-la haec_fw-la velut_fw-la in_o quodam_fw-la theatro_fw-la ista_fw-la in_o secreto_fw-la spectatur_fw-la ista_fw-la illa_fw-la absconditur_fw-la who_o can_v doubt_v but_o that_o these_o two_o the_o office_n of_o clerk_n and_o the_o institute_n of_o monk_n be_v the_o more_o excel_v in_o the_o more_o attent_a devotion_n of_o christian_n this_o discipline_n of_o clerk_n accustom_v to_o humanity_n and_o morality_n that_o of_o regulars_n to_o abstinence_n and_o patience_n this_o the_o state_n of_o clerk_n be_v as_o in_o a_o theatre_n that_o in_o secret_a this_o be_v obvious_a to_o the_o eye_n of_o man_n that_o be_v hide_v and_o a_o little_a after_o this_o life_n therefore_o of_o the_o clergy_n be_v in_o a_o race_n that_o in_o a_o den_n this_o against_o the_o confusion_n of_o the_o world_n that_o against_o the_o desire_n of_o the_o flesh_n this_o subdue_a that_o fly_v the_o pleasure_n of_o the_o body_n this_o more_o grate_n full_a that_o more_o secure_a this_o govern_v itself_o that_o restrain_v itself_o yet_o both_o deny_v themselves_o that_o they_o may_v be_v of_o christ_n because_o to_o the_o perfect_a it_o be_v say_v he_o that_o will_v come_v after_o i_o let_v he_o deny_v himself_o to_o himself_o and_o take_v his_o cross_n and_o follow_v i_o and_o again_o haec_fw-la ergo_fw-la dimicat_fw-la illa_fw-la se_fw-la removet_fw-la haec_fw-la illecebras_fw-la vincit_fw-la illa_fw-la refugit_fw-la huic_fw-la
of_o the_o church_n and_o subordinate_a to_o he_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n 38._o secondlie_o i_o answer_v that_o two_o way_n one_o may_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n first_o as_o the_o people_n be_v of_o the_o kingdom_n that_o be_v as_o subject_n and_o such_o as_o be_v rule_v and_o so_o all_o catholic_a christian_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v a_o multitude_n order_v under_o one_o spiritual_a prince_n the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n s._n peter_n successor_n seconlie_o as_o the_o king_n and_o his_o consellor_n and_o officer_n who_o bear_v rule_v in_o the_o kingdom_n and_o so_o only_a bishop_n priest_n deacon_n pastor_n and_o those_o thaâ—_n under_o the_o chief_a bishop_n govern_v the_o church_n and_o who_o purge_n as_o s._n denys_n say_v illuminate_v and_o perfect_v other_o by_o rule_v preach_v and_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n regulars_n as_o regulars_n or_o who_o be_v not_o bishop_n priest_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o above_o be_v evidenlie_o show_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n and_o other_o and_o this_o distinction_n m._n doctor_n have_v his_o hierarchy_n chap._n 8._o n._n 1._o where_o he_o have_v these_o word_n which_o if_o m._n nicholas_n have_v mark_v he_o will_v not_o have_v make_v this_o objection_n for_o there_o m._n doctor_n have_v these_o word_n it_o fellow_v now_o that_o i_o brief_o declare_v which_o in_o partieular_a be_v these_o order_n and_o whether_o all_o that_o be_v in_o dignity_n in_o the_o church_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n not_o only_o as_o the_o laity_n be_v which_o be_v of_o this_o hierarchy_n as_o the_o common_a people_n be_v of_o the_o kingdom_n but_o also_o as_o who_o bear_v office_n in_o the_o church_n m._n nicholas_n in_o his_o second_o article_n he_o s._n thomas_n demand_n whether_o in_o one_o hierarchy_n there_o be_v more_o order_n of_o angel_n and_o he_o answer_v that_o there_o be_v because_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v a_o order_v but_o a_o confuse_a multitude_n if_o in_o it_o there_o be_v not_o diverse_a order_n which_o diversity_n of_o order_n be_v consider_v according_a to_o diverse_a office_n and_o act_n as_o in_o one_o city_n there_o be_v diverse_a order_n according_a to_o diverse_a action_n for_o there_o be_v one_o order_n of_o judge_n another_o of_o the_o fight_a man_n another_o of_o such_o as_o till_o the_o ground_n mark_v how_o s._n thomas_n do_v hold_v that_o diverse_a function_n and_o act_n be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o distinction_n of_o hierarchy_n although_o they_o do_v not_o always_o presuppose_v jurisdiction_n etc._n etc._n n._n 7._o the_o reply_n not_o all_o act_n and_o function_n but_o hierarchicall_a which_o be_v purge_v illuminate_a and_o perfect_a make_v man_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o there_o be_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o angel_n and_o of_o the_o church_n militant_a 39_o m._n nicholas_n because_o he_o know_v that_o regulars_n not_o bishop_n priest_n etc._n etc._n do_v not_o exercise_v hierarchicall_a action_n which_o be_v purge_v illuminate_n and_o perfect_a by_o preach_v and_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n will_v fain_o have_v it_o grant_v unto_o he_o that_o all_o diversity_n of_o act_n be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v man_n of_o diverse_a order_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o this_o he_o prove_v out_o of_o s._n thomas_n by_o two_o example_n the_o one_o be_v of_o the_o diverse_a order_n of_o angel_n the_o other_o be_v of_o the_o diverse_a order_n in_o a_o city_n as_o of_o judge_n soldier_n and_o those_o that_o till_o the_o ground_n but_o as_o concern_v the_o angel_n 4._o 1._o p._n q._n 50._o be_v 4._o it_o be_v true_a in_o s._n thomas_n his_o opinion_n who_o hold_v every_o one_o of_o they_o to_o be_v of_o diverse_a nature_n that_o every_o one_o of_o they_o save_v the_o last_o and_o low_a be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n because_o every_o one_o purge_v illuminate_v and_o perfect_v his_o inferour_n i_o say_v save_v the_o last_o because_o the_o last_o and_o low_a angel_n be_v purge_v from_o ignorance_n illuminate_v and_o perfect_v but_o purge_v illuminate_v or_o perfecteh_o no_o angel_n he_o be_v the_o low_a and_o so_o he_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o superior_a angel_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n but_o only_o as_o the_o people_n be_v of_o the_o kingdom_n as_o afore_o be_v say_v yet_o this_o low_a angel_n do_v exercise_n hierarchicall_a act_n in_o respect_n of_o man_n to_o who_o he_o be_v superior_a in_o nature_n and_o who_o he_o can_v purge_v from_o ignorance_n illuminate_v and_o perfect_a yet_o all_o the_o low_a order_n as_o s._n denys_n teach_v lib._n eccl._n hier._n c._n 5._o may_v respectivelie_o be_v call_v order_n initiate_v and_o perfect_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o high_a angel_n but_o in_o the_o opinion_n of_o other_o divine_n who_o hold_v that_o all_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o same_o order_n be_v of_o one_o nature_n and_o do_v not_o differre_fw-la in_o nature_n and_o function_n but_o only_o individuallie_o 2._o vasq_fw-la 1._o p._n disp_n 181._o c._n 2._o and_o not_o specie_fw-la but_o numere_fw-la for_o which_o opinion_n vasquez_n cit_v diverse_a divine_n and_o which_o diverse_a learned_a jesuite_n do_v embrace_v all_o the_o low_a order_n be_v of_o the_o purge_n illuminate_v and_o perfect_a hierarchy_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o low_a order_n but_o all_o of_o the_o low_a order_n be_v in_o respect_n of_o all_o the_o high_a order_n as_o the_o people_n be_v of_o the_o kingdom_n because_o this_o last_o order_n in_o this_o opinion_n bear_v no_o rule_n or_o office_n over_o any_o order_n of_o angel_n nor_o purge_v illuminate_v or_o perfect_v any_o angel_n yet_o in_o respect_n of_o man_n this_o order_n exercise_v hierarchicall_a action_n of_o purge_v illuminate_a and_o perfect_v so_o that_o m._n nicholas_n may_v see_v that_o there_o be_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o angel_n and_o of_o man_n for_o that_o in_o s._n thomas_n his_o opinion_n all_o 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1._o because_o eligitur_fw-la à _fw-la communitate_fw-la he_o be_v elect_v by_o a_o community_n which_o rodericus_fw-la say_v be_v determine_v by_o a_o general_a chapter_n call_v pincianun_n confirm_v by_o apostolical_a authority_n and_o again_o he_o say_v that_o the_o rule_n which_o say_v that_o a_o delegate_v not_o subdelegate_v do_v not_o hold_v in_o he_o who_o be_v delegated_a ad_fw-la universitatem_fw-la causarum_fw-la to_o a_o university_n of_o cause_n 13._o three_o the_o pope_n legate_n be_v make_v by_o commission_n and_o delegation_n and_o yet_o he_o be_v ordinary_a as_o sylvester_n teach_v for_o say_v he_o legatus_fw-la est_fw-la be_v cvi_fw-la a_o papa_n certa_fw-la patria_fw-la vel_fw-la provincia_fw-la committitur_fw-la gubernanda_fw-la a_o legate_n be_v he_o to_o who_o by_o the_o pope_n a_o certain_a country_n or_o province_n be_v commit_v to_o be_v govern_v and_o this_o he_o prove_v out_o of_o the_o decretalle_n in_o the_o sixth_o book_n where_o innocentius_n the_o four_o 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pleasure_n of_o the_o pope_n neither_o will_v that_o hinder_v his_o ordinariship_n for_o that_o a_o legate_n be_v
every_o particular_a church_n or_o diocese_n but_o if_o we_o respect_v the_o divine_a law_n there_o be_v not_o more_o reason_n of_o one_o than_o another_o ergo_fw-la all_o the_o diocese_n of_o england_n may_v be_v govern_v without_o a_o bishop_n but_o m._n doctor_n will_v deny_v his_o mayor_n as_o it_o be_v father_v on_o he_o for_o he_o neither_o affirm_v nor_o deny_v that_o every_o diocese_n must_v have_v its_o bishop_n only_o he_o say_v pag._n 375._o that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o certain_a that_o by_o the_o divine_a law_n there_o must_v be_v a_o bishop_n in_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a church_n as_o that_o in_o general_a there_o must_v be_v bishop_n in_o the_o church_n &_o pag._n 376._o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o notable_a part_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n it_o be_v true_a sotus_n say_v that_o it_o be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o diocese_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n but_o m._n doctor_n neither_o 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