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A19033 The plea for infants and elder people, concerning their baptisme, or, A processe of the passages between M. Iohn Smyth and Richard Clyfton wherein, first is proved, that the baptising of infants of beleevers, is an ordinance of God, secondly, that the rebaptising of such, as have been formerly baptised in the apostate churches of Christians, is utterly unlawful, also, the reasons and objects to the contrarie, answered : divided into two principal heads, I. Of the first position, concerning the baptising of infants, II. Of the second position, concerning the rebaptising of elder people. Clyfton, Richard, d. 1616. 1610 (1610) STC 5450; ESTC S1572 214,939 244

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also_o partaker_n of_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n in_o christ_n as_o 14_o as_o pa._n 23._o ●_o “_o gen._n 3._o ●_o &_o 12._o 3._o ●_o 17._o 7._o 21._o esa_n 1._o ●_o &_o 7._o 14._o ●_o 9_o 6_o gen_n ●_o 10._o num●_n 24._o 17._o g●_n 3._o 8._o 14_o before_o be_v prove_v 3_o for_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n it_o can_v bring_v or_o publish_v life_n to_o the_o member_n thereof_o see_v it_o have_v the_o promise_n “_o of_o the_o gospel_n and_o so_o presuppose_a faith_n repentance_n &_o true_a holiness_n as_o you_o speak_v to_o the_o scripture_n first_o to_o heb._n 7._o 19_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o law_n indeed_o make_v nothing_o perfect_a nor_o can_v give_v life_n but_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o again_o and_o
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