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eusebius_n do_v paraphrase_n his_o word_n oxon._n word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d euseb_n l._n 3._o eccles_n theol._n contra_fw-la marcell_n ancyr_n m._n s._n bibl._n oxon._n do_v not_o think_v that_o i_o speak_v of_o that_o flesh_n where_o with_o i_o be_o compass_v as_o if_o you_o must_v eat_v of_o that_o neither_o imagine_v that_o i_o command_v you_o to_o drink_v my_o sensible_a and_o bodily_a blood_n but_o understand_v well_o that_o the_o word_n which_o i_o have_v speak_v unto_o you_o be_v spirit_n and_o 51._o and_o see_v bishop_n usher_v answer_v to_o the_o jesuit_n p_o 48_o 49_o 50_o 51._o life_n this_o also_o be_v the_o exposition_n of_o tertullian_n origen_n st._n augustin_n athanasius_n to_o omit_v divers_a other_o and_o of_o this_o exposition_n they_o give_v this_o account_n 16._o account_n august_n de_fw-fr doct._n christiana_n l._n 3._o c._n 15_o 16._o that_o those_o expression_n take_v literal_o command_v what_o be_v a_o impious_a and_o 87._o and_o est_fw-la in_o n._n testamento_fw-la litera_fw-la quae_fw-la occidit_fw-la eum_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la ea_fw-la quaedicuntur_fw-la adverterit_fw-la si_fw-la enim_fw-la secundum_fw-la literam_fw-la sequaris_fw-la hoc_fw-la ipsum_fw-la quod_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la nisi_fw-la manducaveritis_fw-la carnem_fw-la meam_fw-la etc._n etc._n occidit_fw-la haec_fw-la litera_fw-la origen_n in_o leu._n c._n 10._o hom_o 7._o
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by_o godliness_n and_o virtue_n and_o by_o imitation_n of_o the_o angel_n piety_n and_o therefore_o not_o only_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o this_o objection_n 233._o lib._n 5._o p._n 233._o but_o elsewhere_o he_o tell_v we_o i_o must_v endeavour_v to_o approve_v ourselves_o to_o he_o who_o be_v one_o god_n over_o all_o and_o we_o must_v pray_v to_o he_o for_o mercy_n and_o that_o if_o celsus_n will_v yet_o have_v we_o to_o procure_v the_o good_a will_n of_o other_o after_o he_o who_o be_v god_n over_o all_o he_o must_v consider_v that_o as_o when_o the_o body_n be_v move_v the_o motion_n of_o the_o shadow_n thereof_o do_v follow_v so_o in_o like_a manner_n have_v god_n favourable_a unto_o we_o who_o be_v over_o all_o it_o follow_v that_o we_o shall_v have_v all_o his_o friend_n both_o angel_n and_o soul_n and_o spirit_n love_v unto_o we_o for_o they_o have_v a_o fellow_n feel_v with_o they_o that_o be_v think_v worthy_a to_o find_v favour_n from_o god_n to_o who_o they_o be_v not_o only_o favourable_a but_o they_o pray_v with_o they_o so_o as_o we_o may_v be_v bold_a to_o say_v that_o when_o man_n which_o with_o resolution_n propose_v unto_o themselves_o the_o best_a thing_n do_v pray_v unto_o god_n many_o thousand_o of_o the_o sacred_a power_n pray_v together_o with_o they_o unspeak_a to_o moreover_o when_o celsus_n affirm_v 420._o id._n l._n 8._o p._n 420._o that_o thanks_o be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o daemon_n and_o that_o our_o prayer_n and_o first_o fruit_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v to_o they_o 396._o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o p._n 396._o that_o so_o we_o may_v obtain_v their_o presence_n with_o we_o and_o their_o favour_n to_o we_o who_o have_v obtain_v of_o god_n to_o be_v dispenser_n of_o inferior_a thing_n to_o this_o it_o be_v reply_v by_o origen_n 1._o that_o god_n have_v give_v no_o such_o government_n to_o daemon_n 400._o daemon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ib._n p._n 400._o 2._o that_o first_o fruit_n must_v be_v offer_v to_o god_n alone_o who_o say_v let_v the_o earth_n bring_v forth_o fruit_n and_o to_o he_o to_o who_o the_o christian_n offer_v their_o first_o fruit_n they_o offer_v also_o their_o petition_n 3._o he_o do_v acknowledge_v that_o office_n which_o celsus_n have_v ascribe_v to_o wicked_a daemon_n do_v agree_v to_o angel_n who_o upon_o that_o account_n in_o scripture_n be_v style_v minister_a spirit_n and_o do_v encamp_v about_o god_n servant_n for_o their_o protection_n and_o deliverance_n but_o lest_o we_o shall_v infer_v with_o celsus_n that_o we_o must_v therefore_o pray_v unto_o they_o to_o be_v thus_o propicious_a he_o add_v we_o shall_v sufficient_o obtain_v their_o favour_n by_o imitation_n of_o their_o piety_n and_o invocation_n of_o that_o god_n to_o who_o they_o pray_v for_o thus_o he_o speak_v if_o we_o have_v a_o desire_n to_o a_o multitude_n who_o we_o will_v willing_o have_v to_o be_v favourable_a unto_o we_o 400._o l._n 8._o p._n 400._o we_o learn_v that_o thousand_o 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their_o prayer_n to_o he_o who_o only_o can_v give_v what_o we_o ask_v and_o in_o this_o sense_n it_o be_v still_o use_v by_o roman_a catholic_n when_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n when_o therefore_o origen_n deny_v that_o our_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v to_o any_o but_o to_o christ_n alone_o he_o speak_v of_o prayer_n in_o the_o first_o sense_n this_o be_v that_o catholic_n answer_n which_o upon_o all_o occasion_n he_o produce_v this_o origen_n and_o all_o the_o father_n mean_v very_o it_o be_v this_o and_o nothing_o else_o not_o that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o four_o first_o century_n when_o they_o so_o roundly_o and_o frequent_o assert_v that_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v unto_o god_n alone_o do_v ever_o thus_o distinguish_v or_o speak_v one_o title_n of_o this_o nature_n no_o simple_a creature_n as_o they_o be_v they_o absolute_o and_o without_o all_o distinction_n condemn_v what_o they_o daily_o practise_v and_o practise_v what_o they_o have_v condemn_v they_o all_o speak_v what_o be_v absolute_o false_a and_o mean_v only_o what_o be_v true_a so_o that_o no_o man_n can_v have_v imagine_v this_o to_o have_v be_v their_o meaning_n have_v not_o t._n g._n be_v their_o interpreter_n thus_o when_o origne_n express_o say_v 402._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o p._n 402._o it_o be_v no_o reasonable_a thing_n to_o pray_v unto_o the_o angel_n 258._o angel_n l._n 5._o p._n 258._o we_o must_v only_o pray_v to_o god_n and_o to_o his_o son_n christ_n jesus_n he_o nu_v affirm_v what_o be_v a_o plain_a and_o absolute_a contradiction_n to_o the_o church_n doctrine_n but_o then_o his_o meaning_n must_v be_v orthodox_n and_o contradictory_n to_o what_o he_o do_v assert_v when_o he_o add_v almost_o by_o way_n of_o syllogism_n to_o who_o we_o christian_n offer_v our_o first_o fruit_n to_o he_o we_o offer_v up_o our_o prayer_n but_o to_o god_n alone_o we_o offer_v up_o our_o first_o fruit_n ergo_fw-la to_o he_o alone_o we_o offer_v up_o our_o prayer_n when_o he_o inform_v we_o that_o the_o christian_n be_v such_o as_o do_v not_o pray_v to_o angel_n but_o undivide_o and_o inseparable_o do_v worship_n god_n by_o jesus_n christ_n 382._o l._n 8._o p._n 382._o and_o come_v to_o god_n by_o christ_n alone_o and_o so_o as_o to_o transcend_v even_o those_o bless_a spirit_n which_o be_v call_v god_n he_o must_v apparent_o bely_v the_o christian_a world_n according_a to_o the_o plain_a interpretation_n of_o his_o word_n but_o his_o intention_n must_v be_v orthodox_n and_o yet_o 3._o he_o do_v not_o only_o deny_v the_o doctrine_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o time_n wherein_o he_o live_v but_o he_o destroy_v
from_o page_n 478_o to_o page_n 496._o where_o also_o you_o may_v find_v they_o teach_v that_o the_o dominion_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n be_v equal_a to_o the_o dominion_n of_o her_o son_n that_o all_o power_n in_o heaven_n and_o earth_n be_v give_v to_o she_o that_o she_o be_v constitute_v over_o every_o creature_n and_o whosoever_o bow_v his_o knee_n unto_o jesus_n do_v fall_v down_o also_o and_o supplicate_v unto_o his_o mother_n so_o that_o the_o glory_n of_o the_o son_n may_v be_v judge_v not_o so_o much_o to_o be_v common_a with_o the_o mother_n ibid._n ibid._n as_o to_o be_v the_o very_a same_o that_o the_o mighty_a god_n do_v as_o far_o as_o he_o may_v make_v his_o mother_n partner_n of_o his_o divine_a majesty_n and_o power_n give_v unto_o she_o of_o old_a the_o sovereignty_n both_o of_o celestial_a thing_n and_o mortal_a 478_o p._n 478_o that_o in_o the_o redundance_n of_o effusion_n of_o grace_n upon_o the_o creature_n the_o lord_n power_n and_o will_n be_v so_o accommodate_v unto_o she_o that_o she_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v the_o first_o in_o that_o both_o diadem_n and_o tribunal_n 481._o p._n 481._o and_o that_o all_o thing_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o command_n of_o the_o virgin_n even_o god_n himself_o 482._o p._n 482._o they_o also_o teach_v that_o by_o sin_v after_o baptism_n man_n seem_v to_o have_v contemn_v and_o despise_v the_o passion_n of_o christ_n that_o so_o no_o sinner_n do_v deserve_v that_o christ_n shall_v any_o more_o make_v intercession_n for_o he_o to_o the_o father_n without_o who_o intercession_n none_o can_v be_v deliver_v either_o from_o eternal_a punishment_n or_o the_o temporal_a nor_o from_o the_o fault_n which_o he_o have_v voluntary_o commit_v and_o therefore_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o christ_n shall_v constitute_v his_o well-beloved_a mother_n a_o mediatrix_fw-la betwixt_o we_o and_o he_o and_o so_o in_o this_o our_o pilgrimage_n there_o be_v no_o other_o refuge_n leave_v unto_o we_o in_o our_o tribulation_n and_o adversity_n but_o to_o have_v recourse_n unto_o the_o virgin_n mary_n our_o mediatrix_fw-la that_o she_o will_v appease_v the_o wrath_n of_o her_o son_n ibid._n ibid._n that_o as_o he_o be_v ascend_v into_o heaven_n to_o appear_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n for_o man_n heb._n 9.24_o so_o she_o ought_v to_o ascend_v thither_o to_o appear_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o her_o son_n for_o sinner_n that_o so_o mankind_n may_v have_v always_o before_o the_o face_n of_o god_n a_o help_n like_o unto_o christ_n for_o the_o procure_n of_o his_o salvation_n and_o that_o she_o be_v that_o throne_n of_o grace_n 484._o p._n 484._o whereof_o the_o apostle_n speck_v heb._n 4.16_o let_v we_o go_v bold_o unto_o the_o throne_n of_o grace_n that_o we_o may_v receive_v mercy_n and_o find_v grace_n to_o help_v in_o the_o time_n of_o need_n that_o she_o come_v before_o the_o throne_n of_o grace_n not_o entreat_v but_o command_v 486._o p._n 486._o in_o the_o psalter_n of_o our_o lady_n we_o have_v these_o address_n bless_a be_v they_o who_o heart_n do_v love_v thou_o 31._o ps_n 31._o o_o virgin_n mary_n their_o sin_n by_o thou_o shall_v be_v merciful_o wash_v away_o have_v mercy_n upon_o i_o o_o lady_n 50._o ps_n 50._o who_o be_v call_v the_o mother_n of_o mercy_n and_o according_a to_o the_o bowel_n of_o thy_o mercy_n cleanse_v i_o from_o all_o my_o iniquity_n save_v i_o lady_n by_o thy_o name_n 71._o ps_n 53._o ps_n 71._o and_o deliver_v i_o from_o my_o unrighteousness_n give_v the_o king_n thy_o judgement_n o_o god_n and_o thy_o mercy_n to_o the_o queen_n his_o mother_n oh_o come_v let_v we_o sing_v unto_o our_o lady_n psal_n ps_n .._o 94._o cant_n ad_fw-la virg._n m._n post_n psal_n let_v we_o make_v a_o joyful_a noise_n to_o marry_o our_o queen_n that_o bring_v salvation_n oh_o our_o omnipotent_a lady_n thou_o be_v my_o salvation_n thou_o have_v free_v i_o condemn_v to_o death_n thou_o be_v the_o beginning_n and_o the_o finisher_n of_o my_o salvation_n there_o you_o 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have_v these_o word_n 1605._o word_n confiteer_v dâ—â—_n omnipotenti_fw-la beatae_fw-la mariae_fw-la sâ—mper_fw-la virgini_fw-la beato_n michaeli_n archangelo_fw-la beato_n joanni_n baptistae_n sanctis_fw-la apostolis_n petro_n &_o paulo_n ominibus_fw-la sanctis_fw-la &_o uâ—bis_fw-la flatter_v quâ—â—â—_n peccavi_fw-la nimis_fw-la cogicatione_n five_o rbo_n &_o opere_fw-la ideo_fw-la precor_fw-la beatam_fw-la mariam_n semper_fw-la virginem_fw-la beatum_fw-la michaelem_fw-la archangelum_fw-la beatum_fw-la joannem_fw-la baptistam_fw-la sanctos_fw-la apostelos_n petrum_fw-la &_o paulum_fw-la omnes_fw-la sancte_n &_o vos_fw-fr fratres_n crareprome_v ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la deum_fw-la n_o sirum_fw-la ordinarium_fw-la missae_fw-la p._n 217._o ed._n antuerp_n f._n 1605._o i_o confess_v to_o god_n almighty_a and_o to_o the_o ever_o bless_a virgin_n to_o bless_a michael_n archangel_n to_o bless_a john_n baptist_n to_o the_o holy_a apostle_n peter_n and_o paul_n to_o all_o the_o saint_n and_o to_o you_o brethren_n that_o i_o have_v sin_v in_o thought_n word_n and_o deed_n and_o therefore_o i_o entreat_v the_o bless_a virgin_n the_o archangel_n michael_n st._n john_n the_o baptist_n st._n peter_n and_o st._n paul_n and_o all_o the_o saint_n and_o you_o my_o brethren_n to_o pray_v for_o i_o to_o our_o lord_n god_n this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o it_o contain_v these_o seven_o particular_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a for_o every_o faithful_a man_n and_o exile_a son_n of_o eve_n to_o pray_v unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o the_o saint_n depart_v 2._o that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a thus_o to_o intercede_v not_o only_o for_o the_o good_a and_o welfare_n of_o the_o church_n in_o general_n but_o for_o every_o single_a person_n 3._o 4._o august_n ser._n 37._o de_fw-la sanctis_fw-la ser._n 3._o de_fw-la pluribus_fw-la mart._n in_o com._n plurium_fw-la mart._n extra_fw-la tempus_fw-la pasch_fw-mi 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this_o answer_n give_v we_o some_o show_n of_o reason_n why_o this_o invocation_n be_v not_o enjoin_v in_o scripture_n but_o it_o afford_v not_o the_o least_o shadow_n of_o a_o reason_n why_o it_o be_v not_o practise_v 2._o either_o this_o invocation_n be_v practise_v by_o the_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n or_o not_o if_o not_o 8._o quem_fw-la seuâ—per_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la adhibuit_fw-la câ—t_fw-la rom._n p._n 3_o c._n 2._o sect._n 8._o than_o the_o trent_n council_n and_o the_o roman_a catechism_n false_o do_v assert_v that_o this_o be_v the_o perpetual_a and_o apostolic_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n if_o it_o be_v practise_v than_o that_o practice_n must_v give_v rise_v unto_o the_o same_o objection_n viz._n that_o the_o disciple_n of_o christ_n have_v bring_v into_o the_o world_n this_o custom_n on_o purpose_n to_o advance_v their_o honour_n and_o to_o procure_v worship_n to_o themselves_o 3._o this_o doctrine_n have_v it_o be_v consistent_a 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that_o therefore_o it_o can_v be_v unlawful_a or_o idololatrical_a to_o desire_v their_o intercession_n answ_n this_o be_v a_o argument_n in_o which_o the_o romanist_n much_o triumph_n but_o it_o be_v only_o what_o their_o brother_n donatist_n have_v urge_v long_o before_o epistolam_fw-la l._n de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la ecc._n contra_fw-la petâ—liani_n donatistae_fw-la epistolam_fw-la and_o what_o st._n austin_n have_v admirable_o answer_v and_o first_o i_o say_v it_o be_v but_o a_o translation_n of_o that_o argument_n which_o former_o be_v use_v by_o the_o donatist_n in_o confirmation_n of_o their_o schism_n for_o thus_o st._n austin_n propound_v their_o objection_n k._n objection_n non_fw-la dicat_fw-la verum_fw-la est_fw-la quâ—a_fw-la hoc_fw-la 〈◊〉_d dico_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la hoc_fw-la dixit_fw-la ille_fw-la collega_n meus_fw-la aut_fw-la illi_fw-la collegae_fw-la mei_fw-la aut_fw-la illi_fw-la episcepi_fw-la vel_fw-la clerici_fw-la vel_fw-la laici_fw-la nosiri_fw-la aut_fw-la ideo_fw-la verum_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la illa_fw-la &_o illa_fw-la mirabilia_fw-la fecit_fw-la donatus_n vel_fw-la pontius_n velquilibet_fw-la alius_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la homines_fw-la ad_fw-la memorias_fw-la mortuorum_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la orant_fw-la &_o exaudiuntur_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la illa_fw-la &_o illa_fw-la ibi_fw-la contingunt_fw-la aut_fw-la quia_fw-la ille_fw-la frater_fw-la noster_fw-la aut_fw-la illa_fw-la seror_fw-la nostra_fw-la tale_n visum_fw-la vigilans_fw-la vidit_fw-la vel_fw-la tale_n visun_fw-it dormiens_fw-la somniavit_fw-la removeantur_fw-la isâ—a_fw-la vel_fw-la figmenta_fw-la mendacium_fw-la hominum_fw-la vel_fw-la portenta_fw-la fall_n icium_fw-la spirituum_fw-la aut_fw-la enim_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la vera_fw-la quae_fw-la dicuntur_fw-la aut_fw-la si_fw-la haereticorum_fw-la aliqua_fw-la mira_fw-la sunt_fw-la facta_fw-la magis_fw-la cavere_fw-la debemus_fw-la quod_fw-la cum_fw-la dixisset_fw-la dominus_fw-la quesdum_fw-la futuros_fw-la esse_fw-la falleces_fw-la qui_fw-la nonnuâ—la_fw-la signa_fw-la faciendo_fw-la etiam_fw-la electos_fw-la si_fw-la fieri_fw-la posset_n fallerent_fw-la adjecit_fw-la uchementer_fw-la commendans_fw-la &_o dit_fw-fr ecce_fw-la praedixi_fw-la vebis_fw-la unde_fw-la &_o aposiclus_n admenens_fw-la spiritus_fw-la autem_fw-la manife_a decet_fw-la
the_o creator_n to_o the_o creature_n and_o the_o like_a and_o be_v sufficient_o ward_v against_o the_o force_n of_o this_o assault_n by_o be_v tell_v that_o antichrist_n must_v be_v usher_v in_o with_o sign_n and_o lie_a wonder_n 2.9_o 2_o thess_n 2.9_o second_o what_o austin_n say_v unto_o the_o donatist_n we_o also_o say_v unto_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n show_v we_o your_o scripture_n for_o this_o invocation_n haec_fw-la sunt_fw-la causae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la firmamenta_fw-la the_o three_o particular_a contain_v in_o this_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o holy_a spirit_n have_v forewarn_v we_o that_o in_o the_o latter_a time_n this_o doctrine_n of_o damon_n shall_v prevail_v which_o doctrine_n both_o the_o ingenious_a mr._n mede_n and_o a._n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d adv_fw-la antidico_fw-la marionitas_fw-la haer._n 78._o §._o 23._o a._n epiphanius_n do_v well_o interpret_v to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o worship_v the_o spirit_n of_o dead_a man_n and_o by_o the_o pertinency_n of_o this_o sense_n unto_o st._n augustine_n present_a subject_n we_o have_v good_a reason_n to_o conjecture_v that_o he_o approve_v their_o opinion_n st._n augustine_n second_o answer_n to_o this_o objection_n be_v as_o follow_v l_o follow_v porrò_fw-la si_fw-la aliquis_fw-la in_o hereticorum_fw-la memoriis_fw-la orans_fw-la exauditur_fw-la non_fw-la pro_fw-la merito_fw-la loci_fw-la sed_fw-la pro_fw-la merito_fw-la desiderii_fw-la svi_fw-la recipit_fw-la sive_fw-la matum_fw-la sive_fw-la bonum_fw-la nun_n legimus_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la domino_fw-la deo_fw-la nonnullos_fw-la exauditos_fw-la in_o excelsis_fw-la montium_fw-la judaeae_fw-la quae_fw-la tamen_fw-la excelsa_fw-la ità _fw-la displicebant_fw-la deo_fw-la ut_fw-la reges_fw-la qui_fw-la ea_fw-la non_fw-la everterent_fw-la crâ—lparentur_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la everterent_fw-la laudarentur_fw-la unde_fw-la intelligitur_fw-la magis_fw-la valere_fw-la peâ—entiâ—_n assectium_fw-la â—u_n â—m_n petitioâ—is_fw-la locum_fw-la ib._n p._n 116._o col._n 2._o k._n l_o moreover_o if_o any_o person_n pray_v in_o the_o memorial_n of_o heretic_n be_v hear_v it_o be_v not_o for_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o place_n but_o of_o his_o own_o desire_n that_o he_o receive_v any_o good_a doo_n we_o not_o read_v that_o god_n himself_o hearken_v to_o many_o of_o those_o jew_n who_o pray_v in_o the_o high_a place_n although_o those_o place_n so_o displease_v he_o that_o he_o rebuke_v those_o king_n that_o suffer_v they_o whence_o we_o may_v understand_v that_o the_o affection_n of_o the_o supplicant_n be_v more_o prevail_a than_o the_o place_n of_o prayer_n and_o according_o we_o say_v that_o if_o any_o person_n pray_v to_o these_o saint_n be_v hear_v it_o be_v not_o for_o the_o merit_n of_o this_o prayer_n consider_v as_o direct_v to_o the_o saint_n but_o for_o the_o affection_n of_o his_o heart_n and_o as_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o the_o jew_n to_o pray_v in_o those_o high_a place_n or_o for_o the_o christian_n to_o pray_v in_o the_o memorial_n of_o heretic_n because_o that_o they_o who_o pray_v there_o be_v sometime_o hear_v so_o neither_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o pray_v unto_o the_o saint_n depart_v because_o of_o some_o few_o instance_n that_o they_o who_o have_v thus_o pray_v have_v receive_v the_o desire_a blessing_n three_o say_v st._n austin_n l.m._n austin_n de_fw-fr visis_fw-la autem_fw-la fallacibus_fw-la legunt_fw-la quae_fw-la scriâ—ta_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o quia_fw-la ipse_fw-la satanas_fw-la se_fw-la transfigurat_fw-la tanquam_fw-la angelum_fw-la lucis_fw-la &_o quia_fw-la multos_fw-la seduxerunt_fw-la somnia_fw-la sva_fw-la audiant_fw-la etiam_fw-la quae_fw-la narrant_fw-la pagani_fw-la de_fw-la templis_fw-la &_o diis_fw-la suis_fw-la mirabiliâ—er_fw-la vel_fw-la facta_fw-la vel_fw-la visa_fw-la &_o tamen_fw-la dii_o gentium_fw-la baemonia_n exaudiuntur_fw-la ergo_fw-la multi_fw-la &_o multis_fw-la modis_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la christâ—â—ani_fw-la catholici_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o pagant_a &_o judaei_n &_o haeretici_fw-la variis_fw-la errorâ—lus_fw-la &_o superstiâ—ionibus_fw-la dediti_fw-la exaudiuntur_fw-la autem_fw-la vel_fw-la ab_fw-la spiritibus_fw-la seductoribus_fw-la qui_fw-la tamen_fw-la nihil_fw-la faciunt_fw-la nisi_fw-la permitâ—antur_fw-la deo_fw-la subliâ—iter_fw-la aâ—que_fw-la ineffabiliter_fw-la judieante_fw-la quid_fw-la cuique_fw-la tribuendum_fw-la sit_fw-la sive_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la deo_fw-la vel_fw-la ad_fw-la poenam_fw-la malitiae_fw-la vel_fw-la ad_fw-la solatium_fw-la miseriae_fw-la vel_fw-la ad_fw-la monitionem_fw-la quaerendae_fw-la salutis_fw-la aeternae_fw-la ib_a f._n b._n col._n 2._o l.m._n let_v they_o hear_v what_o the_o pagan_n tell_v of_o the_o wonder_v do_v by_o their_o god_n and_o at_o their_o temple_n and_o yet_o the_o god_n of_o the_o heathen_n be_v but_o daemon_n and_o therefore_o many_o not_o only_a catholic_n but_o pagan_n jew_n and_o heretic_n may_v many_o way_n be_v hear_v either_o by_o those_o seduce_a spirit_n which_o yet_o do_v nothing_o but_o with_o god_n permission_n or_o else_o by_o god_n himself_o either_o for_o castigation_n of_o their_o wickedness_n or_o comfort_n of_o their_o misery_n or_o in_o admonition_n of_o they_o to_o pursue_v eternal_a safety_n which_o answer_v also_o do_v suggest_v these_o thing_n 1._o that_o the_o argument_n be_v vain_a because_o it_o will_v serve_v the_o paegan_n as_o well_o as_o it_o well_o serve_v the_o donatist_n or_o roman_a catholic_n and_o prove_v as_o much_o their_o invocation_n of_o daemon_n to_o be_v lawful_a as_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v which_o be_v now_o practise_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o as_o 8._o as_o quibusdam_fw-la signis_fw-la &_o miraculis_fw-la &_o oraculis_fw-la fidem_fw-la divinitatis_fw-la operatur_fw-la apol._n c._n 21._o §._o 8._o tertullian_n say_v by_o sign_n and_o miracle_n and_o oracle_n they_o obtain_v to_o be_v repute_v go_n 20._o go_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—om_n 6._o p_o 375_o l._n 20._o they_o often_o by_o their_o skill_n have_v cure_v disease_n and_o restore_v to_o health_n those_o that_o be_v sick_a what_o shall_v we_o partake_v therefore_o with_o they_o in_o their_o iniquity_n god_n forbid_v so_o chrysostome_n 2._o chrysostome_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d euseb_n praepar_fw-la evang._n l._n 5._o c._n 2._o the_o wicked_a daemon_n say_v eusebius_n counterfeit_v by_o work_v many_o miracle_n the_o soul_n of_o they_o that_o be_v decease_v and_o thence_o they_o be_v think_v worthy_a to_o be_v celebrate_v with_o great_a service_n 28._o service_n frustra_fw-la tantum_fw-la arrogas_fw-la christo_fw-la cum_fw-la saepe_fw-la alios_fw-la sciamus_fw-la &_o scierimus_fw-la deos_fw-la &_o laborantibus_fw-la plurimis_fw-la dedisse_fw-la medicinas_fw-la &_o multorum_fw-la hominum_fw-la morbos_fw-la valetudiâ—ésque_fw-la cuirass_n arnobius_n l._n 1._o p._n 28._o in_o vain_a say_v they_o you_o arrogate_v so_o much_o to_o christ_n for_o we_o have_v often_o know_v that_o other_o god_n have_v give_v medicine_n to_o and_o heal_v the_o infirmity_n of_o many_o moreover_o these_o benefit_n they_o still_o pretend_v to_o receive_v by_o virtue_n of_o those_o supplication_n which_o they_o offer_v to_o they_o 416._o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apud_fw-la orig._n l_o 8._o p._n 407._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 416._o how_o many_o say_v celsus_n be_v trouble_v that_o they_o have_v no_o child_n have_v by_o they_o enjoy_v their_o wish_n how_o many_o be_v maim_v in_o their_o body_n have_v be_v heal_v by_o they_o hence_o say_v 7._o say_v daut_fw-fr cautelam_fw-la periculi_fw-la mâ—rbâ—s_fw-la medelam_fw-la spem_fw-la afflictis_fw-la opeâ—â—_n mâ—seris_fw-la sâ—latium_fw-la calamitatibus_fw-la laboribus_fw-la levameâ—um_fw-la minur_n p._n 7._o cecilius_n they_o give_v we_o caution_n in_o danger_n and_o medicine_n in_o disease_n hope_v to_o the_o afflict_a help_v to_o the_o miserable_a comfort_n in_o calamity_n ease_n from_o labour_n 2._o this_o argument_n be_v vain_a because_o it_o serve_v the_o heretic_n as_o well_o as_o catholic_n for_o what_o can_v be_v more_o glorious_a than_o what_o philostorgius_n record_v of_o 14._o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d philost_n hist_o eccl._n l_o 2._o §._o 8._o p._n 14._o agapetus_n one_o of_o his_o fellow_n heretic_n that_o he_o wrought_v many_o miracle_n he_o raise_v the_o dead_a and_o heal_v many_o that_o be_v sick_a and_o convert_v many_o to_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o of_o theophilus_n another_o of_o his_o brother_n arrian_n 27._o arrian_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d idem_fw-la l._n 3._o §_o 4._o p._n 27._o that_o his_o wonder_n be_v so_o great_a and_o such_o convince_a demonstration_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n as_o to_o constrain_v the_o obstinacy_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o silence_n all_o their_o contradiction_n last_o hence_o we_o may_v learn_v that_o although_o austin_n shall_v have_v relate_v some_o few_o instance_n of_o person_n heal_v by_o supplication_n tender_v to_o the_o saint_n we_o can_v thence_o infer_v as_o t._n g._n do_v that_o by_o so_o do_v he_o commend_v they_o or_o do_v relate_v they_o as_o pattern_n for_o our_o imitation_n chap._n viii_o the_o content_n the_o judgement_n of_o the_o father_n prove_v to_o be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o of_o protestant_n because_o they_o do_v assert_v
whether_o they_o have_v the_o knowledge_n of_o our_o condition_n yea_o or_o not_o sect._n 4._o four_o that_o the_o forementioned_a father_n do_v often_o speak_v to_o their_o depart_a friend_n as_o present_v although_o they_o do_v not_o think_v they_o so_o to_o be_v sect._n 5._o five_o that_o the_o very_a same_o author_n do_v make_v the_o like_a address_n to_o insensate_a creature_n which_o make_v it_o reasonable_a to_o look_v upon_o they_o as_o rhetorical_a apostrophe_n ibid._n sixthly_a that_o there_o be_v great_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o practice_n which_o then_o begin_v to_o be_v approve_v in_o some_o part_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o v.g._n 1_o that_o no_o instance_n can_v be_v give_v of_o any_o christian_n that_o put_v up_o mental_a prayer_n unto_o they_o or_o dia_z ascribe_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n 2._o that_o they_o pray_v unto_o they_o only_o upon_o supposition_n of_o their_o presence_n at_o their_o tomb_n and_o oratory_n sect._n 6._o the_o author_n cite_v by_o t._n g._n be_v partly_o spurious_a or_o doubtful_a sect._n 7._o partly_o impertinent_a and_o such_o as_o use_v either_o rhetorical_a apostrophe_n or_o only_a wish_n sect._n 8._o or_o such_o as_o only_o do_v ascribe_v unto_o they_o the_o worship_n of_o honour_n and_o affection_n but_o say_v not_o any_o thing_n which_o necessary_o include_v prayer_n sect._n 9_o or_o only_o do_v assert_v that_o they_o do_v pray_v with_o we_o and_o so_o do_v help_v we_o with_o their_o prayer_n sect._n 10._o or_o that_o they_o do_v commend_v themselves_o unto_o their_o prayer_n by_o desire_v god_n that_o for_o their_o intercession_n he_o will_v be_v gracious_a sect._n 11._o §_o 1._o and_o thus_o we_o have_v confirm_v the_o truth_n of_o our_o assertion_n from_o the_o most_o pregnant_a testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n of_o the_o four_o first_o century_n we_o come_v now_o to_o consider_v what_o t.g._n offer_v from_o the_o father_n to_o prove_v the_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v to_o have_v be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n unto_o which_o purpose_n he_o allege_v some_o passage_n of_o gregory_n nazianzen_n and_o nyssen_n st._n cyril_n and_o st._n ambrose_n ruffinus_n st._n basil_n chrysostome_n st._n austin_n to_o which_o we_o answer_v 1._o that_o all_o these_o father_n live_v in_o the_o decline_a time_n of_o the_o four_o century_n or_o after_o the_o conclusion_n of_o it_o bas_n m._n a._n 370._o nazian_n 379._o nissenus_n 380._o ambrose_n 374._o chrysost_n an._n 398._o hierom._n ob_fw-la 420._o ruffinus_n 418._o august_n 396._o cyril_n alex._n 412._o theodoret_n 423._o nor_o can_v one_o item_n of_o such_o a_o practice_n be_v produce_v from_o any_o of_o the_o former_a writer_n so_o that_o if_o all_o these_o father_n do_v express_o say_v what_o t._n g._n do_v contend_v they_o do_v it_o will_v be_v only_o this_o that_o the_o most_o ancient_a father_n of_o the_o three_o first_o century_n and_o to_o the_o middle_n of_o the_o four_o be_v in_o this_o matter_n perfect_a protestant_n whereas_o some_o of_o the_o middle_a father_n who_o live_v in_o the_o decline_a age_n of_o the_o church_n do_v seem_v to_o speak_v in_o favour_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n now_o in_o this_o case_n we_o say_v with_o cyprian_a 14._o cyprian_a si_fw-mi in_o aliquo_fw-la nutaverit_fw-la &_o vacillaverit_fw-la veritas_fw-la ad_fw-la originem_fw-la dominicam_fw-la &_o evangdicam_fw-la &_o apostolicam_fw-la traditionem_fw-la revertamur_fw-la &_o inde_fw-la surgat_fw-la actus_fw-la nestri_fw-la ratiâ—_n unde_fw-la &_o ordo_fw-la &_o origo_fw-la surrexit_fw-la ep._n 74._o sect._n 14._o if_o verity_n do_v warp_v or_o lean_v aside_o we_o must_v look_v back_o and_o return_v to_o divine_a evangelical_n and_o apostolic_a tradition_n and_o derive_v the_o order_n of_o our_o action_n from_o the_o original_a ground_n where_o it_o first_o begin_v and_o with_o tertullian_n 1._o tertullian_n ostendam_fw-la hoc_fw-la exigere_fw-la veritatem_fw-la cvi_fw-la nemo_fw-la praescribere_fw-la potesi_fw-la non_fw-la sputium_fw-la temporum_fw-la non_fw-la patrocinia_fw-la personarum_fw-la non_fw-la privilegium_fw-la regionum_fw-la ex_fw-la his_fw-la enim_fw-la ferè_fw-la consuetudo_fw-la ab_fw-la aliqua_fw-la ignorantia_fw-la vel_fw-la simplieitate_fw-la initium_fw-la sortita_fw-la in_o usam_fw-la per_fw-la successionem_fw-la corroboratur_fw-la &_o ita_fw-la adversus_fw-la veritatem_fw-la vindicatur_fw-la sed_fw-la dominus_fw-la noster_fw-la christus_fw-la veritatem_fw-la senon_fw-mi consuetudinem_fw-la cognominavit_fw-la siquidem_fw-la semper_fw-la christus_fw-la &_o prio_fw-la omnibus_fw-la aeque_fw-la veritas_fw-la sempiterna_fw-la &_o antiqua_fw-la res_fw-la de_fw-fr veland_n virg._n c._n 1._o if_o a_o custom_n proceed_v from_o ignorance_n or_o simplicity_n be_v confirm_v by_o use_n of_o succession_n and_o oppose_v against_o verity_n we_o must_v observe_v that_o neither_o space_n of_o time_n nor_o privilege_n of_o person_n may_v prescribe_v against_o truth_n for_o christ_n be_v eternal_a and_o before_o all_o and_o in_o like_a sort_n verity_n be_v most_o ancient_a for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o above_o 100_o year_n before_o this_o time_n the_o practice_n of_o communicate_v infant_n have_v obtain_v in_o the_o church_n st._n 20._o st._n de_fw-fr lapsis_fw-la sect_n 7._o &_o 20._o cyprian_n make_v mention_n of_o it_o twice_o the_o 13._o the_o l._n 8._o c._n 13._o apostolic_a constitution_n declare_v that_o first_o the_o priest_n communicate_v than_o virgin_n after_o they_o widow_n and_o then_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o their_o little_a infant_n in_o the_o same_o century_n 177_o century_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n apud_fw-la phot._n in_o bibl._n 177_o theodorus_n bishop_n of_o mopsuestia_n in_o sicily_n conclude_v against_o his_o adversary_n that_o infant_n must_v be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o sin_n because_o it_o be_v the_o custom_n to_o administer_v christ_n body_n to_o they_o for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n they_o also_o hold_v that_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o eternal_a life_n for_o infant_n to_o receive_v this_o sacrament_n when_o christ_n say_v if_o you_o eat_v not_o my_o flesh_n you_o shall_v not_o have_v life_n in_o you_o shall_v i_o say_v that_o a_o infant_n shall_v have_v life_n who_o end_v his_o life_n without_o that_o sacrament_n so_o austin_n again_o 20._o again_o dominum_fw-la audiamus_fw-la inquam_fw-la non_fw-la quidam_fw-la hoc_fw-la de_fw-la sacramento_n javacri_fw-la dicentem_fw-la sed_fw-la de_fw-fr sacramento_n sanâ—â—_n monsae_fw-la suae_fw-la quo_fw-la nemo_fw-la ritè_fw-la nisi_fw-la baptizatus_fw-la accedit_fw-la nisi_fw-la manducaâ—â—â—_n it_o be_v carnem_fw-la meam_fw-la &_o biberitis_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la meum_fw-la non_fw-la habebitis_fw-la vitan_fw-mi 〈◊〉_d vobis_fw-la a_o verò_fw-la quisquam_fw-la etiam_fw-la hoc_fw-la dicere_fw-la audebit_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la parâ—â—â—_n los_fw-la haec_fw-la sententia_fw-la non_fw-la pertineat_fw-la possinique_n sine_fw-la participatione_fw-la corpâ—â—â—_n huius_fw-la &_o sanguine_a be_v in_o se_fw-la habere_fw-la vitam_fw-la tom._n 7._o l._n 1._o de_fw-la peccat_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ritis_fw-la &_o remiss_a c._n 20._o let_v we_o hear_v our_o lord_n say_v he_o speak_v of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o holy_a table_n whether_o none_o right_o come_v but_o he_o that_o be_v baptize_v and_o then_o cite_v this_o place_n unless_o you_o eat_v my_o flesh_n etc._n etc._n he_o add_v dare_v any_o say_v that_o this_o sentence_n belong_v not_o to_o child_n but_o that_o they_o may_v without_o the_o participation_n oâ—_n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n have_v life_n in_o themselves_o for_o this_o he_o also_o urge_v the_o testimony_n of_o thâ—_n see_v of_o rome_n for_o then_o this_o doctrine_n 〈◊〉_d well_o as_o practice_n be_v receive_v there_o 101._o there_o ecce_fw-la b._n memoriae_fw-la innocentius_n papa_n sine_fw-la baptismo_fw-la christi_fw-la &_o sine_fw-la participatione_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la christi_fw-la vitam_fw-la non_fw-la habere_fw-la parvulos_fw-la dicit_fw-la to._n 7._o contra_fw-la dvas_fw-la ep._n pelag._n l._n 2._o c._n 4._o p._n 190._o l._n si_fw-mi autem_fw-la cedunt_fw-la pelagiani_n apostolicae_fw-la sedi_fw-la vel_fw-la potiùs_fw-la ipsi_fw-la magistro_fw-la &_o domino_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la qui_fw-la dicit_fw-la non_fw-la habiture_n vitam_fw-la in_o seipsis_fw-la nisi_fw-la manducaverint_fw-la carnem_fw-la silij_fw-la hominis_fw-la etc._n etc._n quod_fw-la nisi_fw-la baptizati_fw-la non_fw-la utâ—que_fw-la possunt_fw-la nempe_fw-la aliquando_fw-la fatebuntur_fw-la parvulos_fw-la non_fw-la baptizatos_fw-la vitam_fw-la habere_fw-la non_fw-la posse_fw-la epist_n ad_fw-la paulinum_n ep._n 106._o p._n 101._o behold_v say_v he_o pope_n innocent_a of_o bless_a memory_n declare_v that_o little_a one_o can_v have_v life_n without_o baptism_n and_o the_o participation_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o paulinus_n if_o the_o pelagian_o say_v he_o will_v yield_v to_o the_o apostle_n seat_n or_o rather_o to_o their_o lord_n and_o master_n say_v that_o except_o we_o eat_v his_o flesh_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n which_o the_o unbaptise_v can_v do_v we_o shall_v not_o have_v life_n they_o will_v at_o last_o confess_v that_o
unbaptised_a infant_n can_v have_v it_o the_o word_n of_o innocentius_n be_v these_o 4._o these_o haec_fw-la enim_fw-la ejus_fw-la verba_fw-la sunt_fw-la illud_fw-la verò_fw-la quod_fw-la eos_fw-la vestra_fw-la fraternitas_fw-la asserit_fw-la praedicare_fw-la parvulos_fw-la aeternae_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la praemiis_fw-la etiam_fw-la sine_fw-la baptismatis_fw-la gratia_n posse_fw-la donari_fw-la perfatuum_fw-la est_fw-la risi_fw-la enim_fw-la manducaverint_fw-la carnem_fw-la silij_fw-la hominis_fw-la august_n contr_n dvas_fw-la epist_n pelag._n l._n 2._o c_o 4._o whereas_o your_o brotherhood_n assert_n that_o the_o pelagian_o say_v that_o infant_n may_v be_v save_v without_o baptism_n this_o be_v a_o very_a fond_a opinion_n for_o unless_o they_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n they_o have_v no_o life_n in_o they_o 624._o they_o hinc_fw-la constat_fw-la inncoentii_fw-la primi_fw-la sentententia_fw-la quae_fw-la 600_o circiter_fw-la annos_fw-la 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st._n hierom_n in_o nepotians_n epitaph_n profess_v he_o belieu_v he_o b._n he_o quicquid_fw-la dixero_fw-la quia_fw-la ille_fw-la non_fw-la audit_n mâ—tum_fw-la videâ—ur_fw-la f._n 8._o b._n scimus_fw-la quidem_fw-la nepotianum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la esse_fw-la cum_fw-la christo_fw-la &_o sanctorum_fw-la mixtum_fw-la châ—ris_fw-la ib._n 1._o fâ—lix_fw-la nepotianus_n qui_fw-la haec_fw-la non_fw-la videt_fw-la felix_fw-la qui_fw-la haec_fw-la non_fw-la audit_n p._n 10._o b._n mingle_v among_o the_o choir_n of_o saint_n and_o yet_o he_o add_v whatsoever_o i_o shall_v say_v will_v be_v but_o speak_v to_o the_o deaf_a because_o he_o hear_v not_o and_o again_o happy_a be_v nepotian_n who_o neither_o hear_v nor_o see_v these_o thing_n 13._o thing_n ibi_fw-la ergo_fw-la sunt_fw-la spiritus_fw-la defunctoruâ—_n ubi_fw-la non_fw-la vident_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la aguntur_fw-la aut_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la in_o isrâ_fw-la vitâ_fw-la hominibus_fw-la de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 13._o the_o spirit_n of_o dead_a man_n be_v there_o where_o whatsoever_o thing_n be_v do_v or_o happen_v in_o this_o life_n to_o man_n they_o do_v not_o see_v they_o so_o st._n augustine_n and_o therefore_o anselm_n in_o his_o interlineal_a gloss_n upon_o that_o text_n abraham_n be_v ignorant_a of_o we_o note_v thus_o austin_n say_v that_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o know_v what_o the_o live_a do_v else_o where_o he_o be_v less_o positive_a and_o only_o say_v a._n say_v respondeo_fw-la magnam_fw-la quidem_fw-la esse_fw-la quaestionem_fw-la utrum_fw-la vel_fw-la quatenus_fw-la vel_fw-la quomodo_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la circa_fw-la nos_fw-la aguntur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d verâ—nt_fw-la
angel_n they_o pray_v thus_o cust_n thus_o huc_fw-la eustos_fw-la igitur_fw-la pervigil_n advola_fw-la avertens_fw-la patria_fw-la de_fw-la tibi_fw-la credita_fw-la tam_fw-la morbos_fw-la animi_fw-la quam_fw-la requiescere_fw-la quicquid_fw-la non_fw-la sinit_fw-la incolas_fw-la brev._n r._n reform_v off._n angeli_fw-la cust_n thou_o watchful_a guardian_n hither_o therefore_o fly_v and_o from_o that_o country_n where_o thy_o charge_n do_v lie_v divert_v what_o ere_o may_v prove_v their_o mind_n disease_n and_o what_o disturb_v the_o people_n quiet_a peace_n and_o again_o angeli_fw-la again_o tu_fw-la es_fw-la spes_fw-la mea_fw-la gloriose_fw-la angelo_n altissimus_fw-la te_fw-la posuit_fw-la &_o mihi_fw-la dedit_fw-la refugium_fw-la tuum_fw-la non_fw-la accedat_fw-la igitur_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o malum_fw-la &_o flagellum_fw-la non_fw-la appropinquet_fw-la tabernaculo_fw-la meo_fw-la mi_fw-mi custos_fw-la gloriose_fw-la i_o consigna_fw-la &_o seruis_fw-la dei_fw-la aggrega_fw-la 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all_o those_o sentence_n of_o scripture_n and_o the_o holy_a father_n which_o attribute_v this_o knowledge_n of_o our_o secret_a thought_n and_o of_o the_o inward_a motion_n of_o the_o heart_n to_o god_n alone_o will_v not_o be_v absolute_o true_a but_o without_o this_o limitation_n viz._n god_n only_o natural_o know_v they_o or_o some_o like_a exception_n they_o will_v be_v absolute_o false_a and_o yet_o this_o limitation_n the_o scripture_n and_o the_o holy_a father_n never_o do_v insinuate_v so_o that_o as_o it_o be_v absolute_o true_a that_o unto_o god_n alone_o belong_v the_o knowledge_n of_o contingent_a being_n although_o he_o sometime_o do_v reveal_v some_o matter_n of_o that_o nature_n to_o his_o priest_n and_o prophet_n nor_o do_v we_o notwithstanding_o think_v that_o such_o a_o knowledge_n do_v belong_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n so_o be_v it_o absolute_o true_a that_o unto_o god_n alone_o belong_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o inward_a thought_n and_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n nor_o have_v we_o any_o reason_n to_o conceive_v that_o such_o a_o knowledge_n ordinary_o belong_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n 4._o §_o 4._o 2._o to_o worship_v any_o creature_n with_o the_o mind_n be_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n this_o be_v the_o ancient_a and_o undoubted_a doctrine_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n for_o this_o st._n austin_n witness_v that_o 34._o that_o divinè_n &_o singulariter_fw-la in_o ecclesla_n catholica_fw-la
traditur_fw-la nullam_fw-la creaturam_fw-la colendam_fw-la esse_fw-la animae_fw-la libentius_fw-la enim_fw-la liquour_n his_fw-la verbis_fw-la quibus_fw-la mihi_fw-la haec_fw-la insinuâ—ta_fw-la sunt_fw-la sed_fw-la ipsum_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la rerum_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la omnium_fw-la creatorem_fw-la august_n l._n de_fw-fr quant_fw-fr animae_fw-la p._n 34._o in_o the_o catholic_n church_n it_o be_v divine_o and_o singular_o deliver_v that_o we_o creature_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v by_o the_o soul_n but_o he_o only_o who_o be_v the_o creator_n of_o all_o thing_n but_o roman_a catholic_n do_v and_o upon_o supposition_n that_o they_o have_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o do_v by_o see_v god_n 418._o p._n 418._o perceive_v the_o secret_n of_o it_o and_o as_o t._n g._n assert_n do_v know_v both_o our_o necessity_n and_o prayer_n concern_v and_o action_n i_o say_v upon_o this_o supposition_n they_o ought_v to_o worship_v saint_n and_o angel_n not_o only_o with_o the_o 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present_a help_n against_o the_o violent_a assault_n of_o a_o temptation_n and_o all_o those_o flood_n of_o evil_n we_o be_v continual_o expose_v to_o with_o we_o consent_v the_o ancient_a father_n in_o this_o matter_n 235._o matter_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n l._n 5._o p._n 234._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 235._o none_o that_o observe_v the_o law_n of_o moses_n do_v worship_n angel_n for_o so_o to_o do_v be_v not_o a_o jewish_a custom_n but_o a_o transgression_n of_o their_o custom_n say_v the_o learned_a origen_n arrian_n origen_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat._n 4._o cont_n arrian_n jacob_n and_o david_n do_v request_v deliverance_n of_o none_o but_o god_n say_v athanasius_n and_o whereas_o t._n g._n and_o the_o roman_a catechism_n 6._o object_n §_o 6._o produce_v those_o word_n of_o jacob_n the_o angel_n that_o redeem_v i_o from_o all_o evil_a bless_v the_o lad_n as_o a_o example_n of_o this_o invocation_n and_o a_o proof_n that_o it_o be_v practise_v by_o the_o ancient_a jew_n if_o we_o consider_v what_o the_o father_n have_v deliver_v upon_o this_o text_n and_o how_o express_o they_o assert_v these_o word_n must_v certain_o be_v understand_v of_o christ_n we_o may_v admire_v that_o any_o roman_a doctor_n who_o stand_v oblige_v by_o his_o oath_n fidei_fw-la oath_n nec_fw-la eam_fw-la unquam_fw-la nisi_fw-la juxta_fw-la unaniman_n consensum_fw-la patrum_fw-la accipiam_fw-la &_o interpretabor_fw-la bulla_n pii_fw-la 4._o super_fw-la forma_fw-la juramenti_fw-la professionis_fw-la fidei_fw-la not_o to_o interpret_v scripture_n but_o according_a to_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n shall_v make_v so_o little_a conscience_n of_o that_o oath_n as_o to_o interpret_v this_o and_o many_o other_o scripture_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o prevail_a judgement_n of_o those_o father_n 2._o it_o be_v admirable_a to_o consider_v with_o what_o incredible_a
both_o in_o their_o council_n and_o ecclesiastical_a judicature_n until_o the_o seven_o century_n and_o which_o be_v cite_v both_o by_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n and_o of_o ephesus_n as_o rom._n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ex_fw-la council_n ephes_n act_n 1._o p._n 2._o p._n 327._o to._n 1._o council_n general_n edit_fw-la rom._n the_o order_n of_o canon_n the_o series_n of_o ecclesiastical_a law_n the_o ecclesastical_a constitution_n and_o council_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act_n 2._o p._n 400._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 426._o v._n p._n 425._o p._n 491._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ex_fw-la council_n calce_v act_n 3._o p._n 241._o tom._n 2._o council_n the_o code_n it_o be_v a_o canon_n of_o that_o code_n to_o which_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n give_v the_o force_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o universal_a law_n in_o these_o expression_n 12._o expression_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act_n 4._o p._n 297._o vic_a justel_n cod._n canon_n p._n 6._o 12._o we_o think_v it_o equal_a that_o the_o canon_n make_v by_o holy_a father_n in_o every_o synod_n until_o now_o shall_v be_v observe_v 1._o can._n 1._o 2._o observe_v that_o what_o the_o canon_n thus_o express_v 3._o §_o 3._o viz._n that_o christian_n shall_v not_o name_v the_o angel_n be_v a_o anathema_n direct_v against_o those_o which_o pray_v to_o angel_n so_o theodoret_n and_o photius_n who_o call_v upon_o they_o for_o help_n or_o introduction_n to_o god_n so_o zonaras_n and_o aristenus_n who_o worship_v they_o locum_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la so_o theodoret_n dionysius_n christonius_n and_o the_o epitome_n of_o canon_n present_v by_o pope_n adrian_n to_o charles_n the_o great_a who_o say_v we_o must_v be_v bring_v to_o god_n by_o angel_n so_o aristenus_n and_o the_o amerbachian_n scholiast_n locum_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la and_o that_o to_o cure_v that_o disease_n the_o council_n do_v command_v all_o christian_n not_o to_o pray_v unto_o they_o so_o theodoret_n and_o oecumenius_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o evident_a it_o be_v that_o zonaras_n do_v true_o say_v that_o to_o name_n angel_n in_o this_o canon_n be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o invoke_v they_o whence_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n for_o two_o whole_a century_n and_o upward_o do_v forbid_v all_o christian_n to_o invoke_v angel_n to_o worship_n or_o to_o call_v upon_o they_o and_o do_v pronounce_v anathema_n on_o they_o that_o do_v so_o 3._o observe_v that_o what_o this_o canon_n do_v forbid_v 4._o §_o 4._o be_v not_o the_o invocation_n of_o wicked_a daemon_n or_o of_o damn_a spirit_n but_o of_o the_o bless_a angel_n for_o 1._o according_a to_o theodoret_n and_o photius_n they_o do_v condemn_v the_o worshipper_n of_o michael_n the_o archangel_n and_o those_o that_o go_v unto_o the_o oratory_n or_o church_n of_o st._n michael_n 2._o the_o canon_n do_v relate_v to_o christian_n who_o sure_o will_v not_o meet_v to_o worship_v devil_n nor_o do_v it_o recall_v they_o to_o good_a angel_n but_o to_o jesus_n christ_n 3._o the_o person_n reprehend_v be_v say_v to_o have_v take_v up_o this_o custom_n of_o go_v thus_o to_o good_a daemon_n from_o a_o pretence_n of_o their_o unworthiness_n to_o go_v to_o god_n or_o christ_n immediate_o and_o from_o a_o appearance_n of_o humility_n so_o chrysostome_n theodoret_n and_o other_o but_o to_o expect_v the_o help_n of_o devil_n to_o introduce_v they_o to_o god_n and_o to_o pretend_v humility_n in_o do_v such_o a_o horrid_a act_n be_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o high_a madness_n 4._o theodoret_n and_o photius_n inform_v we_o that_o they_o who_o bring_v up_o that_o forbid_a practice_n be_v zealous_a for_o the_o law_n now_o that_o most_o strict_o do_v forbid_v the_o worship_n of_o all_o evil_a spirit_n it_o be_v deliver_v not_o by_o they_o but_o by_o the_o bless_a angel_n 4._o that_o which_o be_v here_o forbid_a 4._o §_o 4._o be_v what_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v daily_a practice_n for_o they_o do_v worship_n angel_n say_v the_o roman_a catechism_n 434._o part_n 3._o p._n 434._o this_o be_v and_o have_v be_v their_o perpetual_a custom_n to_o call_v upon_o they_o and_o to_o expect_v their_o help_n and_o patronage_n by_o virtue_n of_o those_o supplication_n hence_o that_o expression_n of_o the_o roman_a missal_n b._n missal_n hos_fw-la fidenter_fw-la deprecemur_fw-la ut_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsis_fw-la adjuvemur_fw-la apud_fw-la deum_fw-la jugiter_fw-la prosa_fw-la ad_fw-la s._n angelos_n f._n 32._o b._n to_o they_o with_o confidence_n let_v we_o pray_v for_o god_n assistance_n every_o day_n they_o do_v expect_v salvation_n from_o their_o intercession_n in_o that_o very_a sense_n in_o which_o theophylact_v assert_n the_o heretic_n expect_v to_o be_v save_v by_o angel_n viz_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o person_n minister_a unto_o our_o introduction_n to_o god_n and_o christ_n hence_o their_o petition_n that_o b._n that_o hostias_fw-la tibi_fw-la domine_fw-la laudis_fw-la offerimus_fw-la suppliciter_fw-la deprecantes_fw-la ut_fw-la easdem_fw-la angelico_n interveniente_fw-la suffragio_fw-la &_o placatus_fw-la accipta_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la nostram_fw-la provenire_fw-la concedas_fw-la missa_fw-la votiva_fw-la de_fw-la angelis_n p._n 5.36_o ed._n aut._n fol._n gaudium_fw-la erit_fw-la tibi_fw-la angelo_n dei_fw-la super_fw-la i_o peccatore_fw-la tuis_fw-la intercessionibus_fw-la deum_fw-la obtinente_fw-la missa_fw-la in_o honorem_fw-la proprii_fw-la angelif_n 16._o b._n ed._n antuerp_n so._n 1577._o angelorum_fw-la concio_fw-la sacra_fw-la &_o archangelorum_fw-la turma_fw-la inclyta_fw-la nostra_fw-la diluant_fw-la jam_fw-la peccata_fw-la praestando_fw-la superacaeli_fw-la gaudia_fw-la prosa_fw-la de_fw-la omnibus_fw-la sanctis_fw-la ibid._n f._n 33._o b._n by_o the_o intercession_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n they_o may_v obtain_v god_n favour_n and_o may_v be_v bring_v to_o life_n eternal_a if_o then_o that_o invocation_n which_o be_v here_o forbid_a be_v idolatry_n the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n must_v be_v so_o too_o 5._o this_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n 6._o §._o 6._o be_v express_o say_v to_o be_v idolatry_n and_o therefore_o if_o it_o be_v not_o true_o so_o this_o synod_n and_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n must_v be_v pronounce_v false_a accuser_n now_o of_o this_o enormity_n they_o can_v not_o just_o be_v accuse_v for_o desert_v christ_n for_o notwithstanding_o this_o they_o do_v not_o look_v upon_o those_o angel_n they_o invoke_v as_o god_n but_o as_o inferior_a creature_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o preson_n instrumental_a and_o subservient_fw-fr unto_o our_o introduction_n to_o god_n and_o therefore_o think_v we_o shall_v procure_v god_n favour_n by_o the_o mean_n of_o angel_n because_o that_o god_n himself_o be_v not_o to_o be_v approach_v or_o apprehend_v and_o because_o christ_n be_v so_o exalt_v that_o they_o dare_v not_o make_v their_o immediate_a address_n to_o he_o now_o to_o think_v christ_n great_a than_o that_o we_o sinful_a creature_n shall_v make_v address_n to_o he_o make_v some_o show_n of_o our_o humility_n but_o can_v possible_o be_v charge_v with_o idolatry_n for_o shall_v any_o man_n conceive_v himself_o unworthy_a to_o appear_v before_o god_n or_o look_v upon_o he_o as_o unaccessable_a by_o one_o of_o so_o defile_v a_o spirit_n and_o therefore_o shall_v entreat_v the_o prayer_n of_o his_o pious_a neighbour_n we_o may_v conclude_v that_o he_o be_v very_o ignorant_a and_o vain_a in_o his_o imagination_n but_o can_v not_o thence_o conclude_v that_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n and_o so_o the_o reader_n see_v that_o notwithstanding_o these_o mistake_n of_o the_o angelick_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v no_o wrong_n do_v they_o when_o we_o charge_v their_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n with_o idolatry_n for_o if_o the_o invocation_n of_o they_o when_o absent_a be_v not_o guilty_a of_o this_o crime_n these_o by-mistakes_a can_v never_o make_v it_o guilty_a of_o that_o imputation_n beside_o the_o synod_n and_o theodoret_n do_v put_v a_o clear_a distinction_n betwixt_o these_o two_o particular_n which_o by_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o roman_a doctor_n be_v confound_v and_o make_v to_o signify_v the_o same_o viz._n desertion_n of_o christ_n and_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n by_o pray_v to_o the_o bless_a angel_n as_o be_v apparent_a from_o this_o expression_n of_o theodoret_n the_o synod_n of_o laodicea_n make_v a_o law_n that_o christian_n shall_v not_o pray_v to_o angel_n nor_o forsake_v the_o lord_n christ_n whosoever_o do_v such_o thing_n say_v they_o accurse_a let_v he_o be_v because_o he_o have_v desert_v christ_n and_o give_v up_o himself_o unto_o idolatry_n last_o we_o do_v not_o find_v that_o they_o do_v so_o reject_v or_o desert_n christ_n as_o to_o deny_v his_o intercession_n in_o the_o heaven_n but_o only_o upon_o this_o account_n because_o they_o 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reason_n to_o discern_v it_o for_o p._n 146_o 159._o we_o have_v this_o triumphant_a argument_n upon_o the_o same_o account_n that_o the_o heathen_a do_v give_v divine_a honour_n to_o their_o inferior_a deity_n those_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v so_o to_o saint_n and_o angel_n and_o how_o unhappy_a t._n g._n be_v in_o his_o attempt_n upon_o this_o argument_n i_o have_v abundant_o evince_v again_o the_o doctor_n argue_v thus_o the_o father_n do_v express_o deny_v that_o invocation_n or_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v make_v to_o angel_n for_o so_o origen_n 158._o p._n 158._o and_o theodoret_n speak_v express_o that_o man_n be_v not_o to_o pray_v to_o angel_n and_o any_o one_o that_o read_v st._n austin_n will_v find_v that_o he_o make_v solemn_a invocation_n to_o be_v as_o proper_a to_o god_n as_o sacrifice_n be_v 2._o on_o what_o account_n shall_v it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o sacrifice_n to_o saint_n and_o angel_n if_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o invocate_v they_o may_v not_o one_o be_v 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the_o very_a ground_n and_o reason_n of_o that_o practice_n viz._n the_o benefit_n we_o may_v receive_v by_o put_v up_o request_n unto_o they_o and_o the_o concernment_n which_o lie_v upon_o we_o so_o to_o do_v in_o order_n to_o our_o preservation_n from_o all_o evil_a and_o the_o obtainment_n of_o the_o great_a blessing_n for_o he_o express_o tell_v we_o our_o care_n must_v be_v to_o get_v his_o favour_n who_o alone_o be_v god_n and_o that_o if_o celsus_n or_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n will_v have_v we_o to_o procure_v the_o favour_n of_o the_o inferior_a being_n he_o must_v know_v that_o all_o good_a spirit_n soul_n and_o angel_n if_o we_o do_v obtain_v god_n favour_n when_o we_o pray_v to_o he_o they_o need_v not_o be_v call_v upon_o for_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o prayer_n for_o they_o will_v pray_v together_o with_o we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o be_v call_v upon_o so_o to_o do_v this_o he_o do_v frequent_o repeat_v and_o indeed_o it_o be_v the_o common_a language_n of_o those_o time_n he_o live_v in_o witness_v the_o like_a expression_n of_o arnobius_n 101._o arnobius_n in_o ho_o omne_fw-la quod_fw-la colendum_fw-la est_fw-la colimus_fw-la quod_fw-la adorari_fw-la convenit_fw-la adoramus_fw-la quod_fw-la obsequium_fw-la venerationis_fw-la exposcit_fw-la venerationibus_fw-la promeremur_fw-la cum_fw-la enim_fw-la divinitatis_fw-la ipsius_fw-la tencamus_fw-la caput_fw-la à _fw-la quo_fw-la ipsa_fw-la divinitas_fw-la divorum_fw-la omnium_fw-la quicunque_fw-la sunt_fw-la ducitur_fw-la supervacuum_fw-la putamus_fw-la personas_fw-la ire_n per_fw-la singulas_fw-la cum_fw-la &_o ipsi_fw-la qui_fw-la sint_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la habeant_fw-la nomina_fw-la nesciamus_fw-la &_o cujus_fw-la sint_fw-la praeterea_fw-la numeri_fw-la neque_fw-la liquidum_fw-la neque_fw-la comprehensum_fw-la neque_fw-la exploratum_fw-la habere_fw-la possimus_fw-la atque_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o terrestribus_fw-la regnis_fw-la necessitate_v nulla_fw-la compellimur_fw-la regalibus_fw-la in_o familiis_fw-la constitutos_fw-la nominatim_fw-la cum_fw-la principibus_fw-la adorare_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o regum_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la cultu_fw-la quicquid_fw-la illis_fw-la annexum_fw-la est_fw-la tacita_fw-la &_o se_fw-la sentit_fw-la honorificentia_fw-la comprehendi_fw-la non_fw-la alia_fw-la ratione_fw-la quicunque_fw-la hi_o dii_fw-la sunt_fw-la quos_fw-la esse_fw-la nobis_fw-la proponitis_fw-la fi_fw-la sint_fw-la progeny_n regius_fw-la &_o principali_fw-la oriuntur_fw-la è_fw-la capite_fw-la etiam_fw-la si_fw-la nullos_fw-la accipiant_fw-la nominatim_fw-la à _fw-la nobis_fw-la cultus_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la se_fw-la tamen_fw-la honorari_fw-la communiter_fw-la cum_fw-la svo_fw-la rege_fw-la atque_fw-la in_o illius_fw-la venerationibus_fw-la contineri_fw-la arnobius_n contra_fw-la gentes_fw-la lib._n 3_o p._n 101._o in_o worship_v the_o father_n and_o the_o lord_n of_o all_o thing_n we_o worship_v all_o thing_n that_o be_v to_o be_v worship_v we_o adore_v all_o thing_n that_o may_v convenient_o be_v adore_v we_o venerate_v all_o that_o call_v for_o veneration_n for_o hold_v to_o the_o head_n from_o whence_o these_o divi_z borrow_v their_o divinity_n we_o think_v it_o needless_a to_o go_v to_o every_o person_n see_v we_o know_v not_o what_o they_o be_v what_o name_v they_o have_v or_o of_o what_o order_n they_o may_v be_v and_o as_o in_o honour_v the_o king_n we_o honour_v all_o that_o do_v belong_v unto_o he_o so_o what_o ever_o god_n you_o do_v propose_v unto_o we_o if_o they_o be_v of_o this_o kingly_a progeny_n and_o do_v belong_v unto_o this_o head_n although_o they_o do_v receive_v no_o worship_n from_o we_o they_o understand_v that_o they_o be_v worship_v together_o with_o their_o king_n and_o be_v include_v in_o that_o veneration_n which_o we_o pay_v to_o he_o 4._o this_o answer_n render_v the_o discourse_n of_o origen_n impertinent_a and_o a_o perfect_a declination_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o he_o and_o celsus_n for_o celsus_n thus_o dispute_v no_o god_n nor_o any_o son_n of_o god_n can_v possible_o descend_v from_o heaven_n but_o if_o you_o do_v assert_v this_o of_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n these_o be_v no_o other_o than_o our_o daemon_n 23â—_n orig._n l._n 7._o 5._o p._n 23â—_n to_o this_o st._n origen_n return_v this_o answer_n 1._o that_o to_o deny_v that_o any_o god_n descend_v from_o heaven_n be_v to_o deny_v what_o be_v esteem_v a_o thing_n common_a by_o the_o heathen_a world_n 2._o that_o christian_n do_v indeed_o confess_v this_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o angel_n to_o come_v down_o from_o and_o to_o ascend_v to_o heaven_n and_o to_o offer_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o man_n to_o god_n but_o yet_o say_v he_o we_o must_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o god_n for_o all_o our_o prayer_n must_v be_v direct_v to_o god_n and_o to_o his_o son_n christ_n jesus_n who_o be_v the_o live_a word_n and_o god_n which_o argument_n if_o it_o have_v any_o strength_n at_o all_o consist_v in_o this_o that_o whiâ—h_v you_o must_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o but_o angel_n you_o must_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n ergo_fw-la angel_n you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o this_o be_v that_o father_n plea_n to_o which_o t._n g._n may_v answer_v in_o behalf_n of_o celsus_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o he_o apparent_o distinguish_v those_o angel_n both_o from_o god_n and_o from_o the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o contend_v that_o we_o shall_v pray_v unto_o they_o as_o to_o that_o god_n who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a but_o only_o as_o to_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n who_o he_o appoint_v to_o preside_v over_o such_o person_n family_n and_o country_n and_o therefore_o he_o be_v content_v only_o that_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_a to_o say_v unto_o they_o as_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o st._n sebastian_n cerne_n familiam_fw-la tuam_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la behold_v thy_o family_n and_o to_o st._n gabriel_n preserve_v thy_o country_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d celsus_n object_n that_o if_o with_o god_n we_o do_v adore_v his_o son_n then_o may_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d venerate_v his_o minister_n to_o this_o st._n origen_n reply_v that_o if_o 386._o if_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la lib._n 8._o p._n 386._o celsus_n by_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n have_v understand_v gabriel_n and_o michael_n and_o other_o angel_n and_o archangel_n and_o have_v contend_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v venerate_v perpaps_o by_o purify_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o the_o action_n of_o the_o venerator_n we_o may_v say_v something_o of_o that_o matter_n i.e._n perhaps_o some_o action_n which_o in_o some_o sense_n may_v bear_v the_o name_n of_o veneration_n may_v be_v perform_v to_o those_o angel_n this_o t._n g._n think_v a_o great_a advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n and_o wonder_n that_o the_o doctor_n will_v produce_v this_o passage_n but_o i_o conceive_v it_o be_v the_o clear_a confutation_n of_o it_o that_o we_o can_v desire_v for_o have_v grant_v this_o and_o then_o restrain_v our_o petition_n unto_o god_n the_o father_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n as_o he_o express_o do_v he_o most_o apparent_o demonstrate_v that_o prayer_n can_v be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o forementioned_a service_n he_o allow_v to_o saint_n 2._o in_o that_o he_o thus_o distinguish_v of_o veneration_n and_o never_o do_v distinguish_v in_o the_o like_a manner_n of_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n or_o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id_fw-la est_fw-la of_o adoration_n and_o worship_n it_o follow_v that_o although_o he_o think_v some_o veneration_n may_v be_v allow_v to_o angel_n in_o some_o inferior_a kind_n yet_o no_o petition_n be_v to_o be_v put_v up_o unto_o they_o and_o that_o no_o worship_n and_o adoration_n shall_v be_v give_v unto_o they_o 3._o when_o origen_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o passage_n say_v ibid._n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ibid._n we_o christian_n venerate_a with_o supplication_n only_a god_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n and_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o god_n by_o his_o only_a son_n if_o he_o do_v understand_v only_o such_o supplication_n as_o be_v make_v to_o he_o as_o to_o the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a he_o be_v as_o vain_a and_o impertinent_a as_o t._n g._n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o dr._n for_o celsus_n only_o do_v contend_v for_o such_o a_o worship_n and_o consequent_o for_o such_o address_n only_o as_o agree_v unto_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n 4._o origen_n plain_o do_v inform_v we_o that_o the_o veneration_n he_o allow_v to_o angel_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 416._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n l._n 8._o p._n 416._o to_o speak_v well_o of_o they_o and_o pronounce_v they_o bless_v and_o imitate_v to_o their_o virtue_n and_o what_o be_v this_o to_o supplication_n 3._o celsus_n object_n that_o daemon_n do_v belong_v to_o god_n and_o therefore_o must_v be_v pray_v unto_o and_o