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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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such_o act_n to_o tell_v it_o unto_o so_o ephes_n 3._o 10._o 21._o 1._o tim._n 3._o 5._o if_o a_o man_n i._n e._n any_o man_n know_v not_o to_o rule_v his_o own_o house_n i._n e._n this_o or_o that_o house_n how_o shall_v he_o take_v care_n of_o the_o church_n i._n e._n this_o or_o that_o church_n 1_o tim._n 3._o 15._o in_o the_o house_n of_o god_n which_o be_v the_o church_n i_o e._n in_o any_o church_n where_o thou_o preside_v 〈◊〉_d tim._n 5_o 16._o let_v not_o the_o church_n be_n charge_v i._n e._n any_o church_n where_o the_o any_o man_n or_o woman_n mention_v by_o the_o apostle_n have_v widow_n do_v reside_v heb._n 2._o 12._o in_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o church_n this_o declare_v praise_n can_v be_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o never_o meet_v upon_o such_o act_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o mean_v of_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a only_o but_o this_o and_o that_o and_o the_o other_o distinct_a indeed_o in_o distinct_a individual_a form_n as_o plato_n &_o socrates_n be_v distinct_a but_o agree_v in_o common_a nature_n inseparable_a inherent_a in_o they_o both_o thus_o it_o be_v say_v the_o wife_n be_v bind_v 1._o cor._n 7._o 39_o every_o particular_a wife_n the_o man_n be_v not_o of_o the_o woman_n 1_o cor._n 11._o 8._o nor_o this_o nor_o that_o man_n nor_o any_o man_n when_o the_o name_n of_o a_o integrum_fw-la be_v give_v to_o a_o part_n it_o be_v not_o so_o because_o its_o a_o part_n but_o because_o of_o the_o common_a nature_n so_o that_o the_o flesh_n of_o john_n and_o the_o flesh_n of_o thomas_n be_v all_o flesh_n as_o well_o as_o the_o flesh_n of_o the_o leg_n and_o arm_n of_o either_o of_o they_o we_o do_v not_o think_v a_o particular_a church_n form_v unto_o fellowship_n according_a to_o institution_n be_v as_o so_o a_o part_n or_o have_v its_o denomination_n for_o part_n sake_n but_o be_v of_o the_o same_o kind_n with_o other_o church_n of_o the_o same_o constitution_n it_o be_v include_v in_o and_o represent_v by_o the_o same_o name_n for_o kind_n sake_n this_o may_v answer_v the_o argument_n from_o the_o apostle_n who_o because_o not_o officer_n to_o a_o certain_a particular_a only_o be_v suppose_v to_o have_v be_v so_o to_o the_o universal_a for_o the_o apostle_n be_v officer_n in_o and_o over_o every_o particular_a by_o virtue_n of_o a_o immediate_a call_n and_o general_a commission_n wherein_o they_o have_v no_o successor_n which_o particular_n though_o not_o part_n as_o be_v already_o express_v may_v be_v signify_v by_o a_o singular_a word_n church_n even_o as_o many_o common_a wealth_n as_o to_o order_n and_o government_n independent_a may_v be_v so_o signify_v and_o it_o may_v be_v proper_o say_v god_n appoint_v for_o a_o commonwealth_n ruler_n judgge_n etc._n etc._n i._n e._n for_o this_o that_o and_o the_o other_o commonwealth_n nor_o be_v it_o ha●d_a to_o imagine_v how_o one_o may_v have_v power_n in_o and_o over_o two_o or_o three_o or_o more_o yet_o they_o have_v no_o dependence_n one_o upon_o a_o other_o a_o father_n may_v have_v ten_o daughter_n and_o each_o daughter_n her_o family_n distinct_a the_o father_n have_v power_n in_o each_o family_n though_o the_o particular_a sister_n or_o their_o o_o fficer_n not_o so_o nor_o be_v the_o argument_n more_o cogent_a take_v from_o baptism_n and_o excommunication_n baptism_n make_v not_o any_o one_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n more_o than_o the_o lords-supper_n nor_o be_v it_o administer_v that_o person_n may_v be_v member_n of_o the_o body_n we_o know_v our_o brethren_n will_v not_o administer_v it_o to_o the_o heathen_n or_o idolater_n but_o to_o person_n call_v from_o idol_n i._n e._n to_o member_n in_o their_o sense_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n we_o know_v our_o brethren_n qualify_v their_o catholic_n notion_n with_o this_o term_n solemn_a intend_v not_o admission_n in_o a_o general_a sense_n but_o solemn_a admission_n as_o the_o enli_a or_o enrolment_n of_o a_o soldier_n be_v his_o admission_n into_o the_o army_n but_o its_o consistency_n with_o their_o other_o principle_n we_o see_v not_o if_o a_o soldier_n be_v cashier_v he_o be_v readmit_v by_o a_o new_a enrolment_n if_o a_o member_n be_v excomunicate_v yet_o when_o absolve_v he_o be_v not_o rebaptise_v we_o need_v say_v no_o more_o to_o this_o argument_n here_o have_v occasion_n to_o meet_v it_o again_o and_z to_o consider_v the_o scripture_n whereon_o it_o be_v build_v we_o rest_v very_o confident_a that_o some_o parent_n master_n or_o neighbour_n who_o through_o providence_n be_v instrumental_a to_o the_o convert_n of_o a_o sinner_n do_v more_o to_o the_o enter_v a_o person_n into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n than_o any_o minister_n ever_o do_v by_o baptism_n or_o can_v do_v though_o baptism_n enter_v not_o a_o member_n into_o any_o church_n yet_o where_o ever_o regular_o perform_v be_v valid_a to_o its_o end_n use_n and_o consequential_a privilege_n in_o every_o church_n not_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o unity_n of_o church_n but_o upon_o a_o other_o account_n suppose_v a_o man_n be_v free_a in_o london_n and_o have_v the_o seal_n of_o his_o freedom_n in_o that_o corporation_n only_o yet_o he_o be_v free_a to_o buy_v and_o sell_v in_o every_o corporation_n in_o england_n and_o interest_v in_o common_a privilege_n where_o ever_o he_o be_v though_o not_o in_o proper_a as_o jurisdiction_n and_o government_n if_o he_o that_o set_v the_o seal_n at_o london_n admit_v not_o into_o every_o company_n and_o corporation_n in_o the_o land_n if_o communion_n with_o every_o corporation_n in_o some_o thing_n do_v not_o prove_v such_o a_o union_n among_o they_o all_o as_o be_v between_o the_o member_n of_o some_o one_o corporation_n the_o argument_n upon_o baptism_n to_o prove_v a_o catholic_n church_n fall_v to_o the_o ground_n excommunication_n indeed_o separate_v the_o person_n excomunicate_v from_o relation_n to_o and_o communion_n with_o the_o body_n from_o which_o he_o be_v cut_v off_o 1_o cor._n 55._o 7._o 13._o but_o as_o a_o member_n forfeit_v his_o freedom_n at_o london_n be_v former_o desfranchise_v there_o where_o he_o be_v actual_o a_o member_n and_o consequent_o incapacitate_v to_o claim_v the_o privilege_n which_o former_o he_o enjoy_v by_o virtue_n of_o that_o freedom_n other_o where_o though_o london_n and_o other_o city_n and_o town_n corporate_a make_v not_o one_o corporation_n so_o it_o be_v in_o this_o case_n mr._n hudson_n object_n postcript_n page_n 5._o several_a corporation_n be_v constitute_v by_o several_a charter_n etc._n etc._n and_o but_o the_o universal_a church_n have_v but_o one_o charter_n from_o our_o sovereign_n under_o the_o same_o systeme_n of_o law_n etc._n etc._n answ_n as_o the_o world_n according_a to_o the_o fellowship_n of_o nature_n have_v one_o jus_fw-la gentium_fw-la and_o law_n of_o nature_n for_o the_o whole_a yet_o according_a to_o the_o fellowship_n of_o order_n must_v of_o necessity_n be_v under_o other_o law_n for_o the_o several_a part_n thereof_o in_o those_o combine_a fellowship_n so_o the_o church_n in_o the_o fellowship_n of_o its_o nature_n or_o the_o whole_a company_n call_v to_o union_n and_o communion_n with_o the_o lord_n jesus_n have_v one_o law_n of_o faith_n obedience_n etc._n etc._n for_o all_o its_o individual_n yet_o not_o one_o law_n for_o the_o whole_a as_o such_o for_o order_n policy_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o church_n in_o the_o fellowship_n of_o order_n have_v law_n suitable_a to_o their_o order_n by_o the_o will_n and_o appointment_n of_o jesus_n christ_n it_o be_v the_o law_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n that_o the_o member_n of_o it_o worship_v the_o lord_n it_o be_v the_o law_n of_o the_o particular_a that_o the_o member_n meet_v and_o worship_v in_o one_o place_n 1_o cor._n 11._o 20._o 14._o 23._o thus_o they_o walk_v together_o in_o ordinance_n so_o that_o walk_v in_o ordinance_n with_o a_o other_o church_n neglect_v it_o in_o this_o be_v sinful_a because_o every_o one_o be_v bind_v to_o walk_v with_o the_o same_o church_n whereof_o he_o be_v a_o member_n that_o text_n be_v yet_o in_o controversy_n 1._o cor._n 12._o 28._o god_n have_v set_v some_o in_o the_o church_n we_o say_v its_o parallel_n to_o god_n have_v set_v the_o member_n every_o one_o in_o the_o body_n verse_n 18_o if_o this_o prove_v not_o a_o catholic_a body_n nor_o do_v that_o prove_v a_o catholic_n church_n d●_n collings_n repli_v the_o body_n be_v totum_fw-la integrale_fw-la if_o member_n have_v be_v enumerate_v not_o confine_v to_o the_o service_n of_o that_o particular_a it_o will_v have_v prove_v a_o universal_a body_n answ_n the_o body_n to_o which_o the_o church_n be_v compare_v be_v totum_fw-la intigrale_fw-la organicum_fw-la but_o particular_a so_o be_v the_o church_n the_o apostle_n have_v place_n and_o power_n over_o more_o than_o this_o
particular_a yet_o as_o church-officer_n no_o place_n in_o nor_o power_n over_o any_o but_o particular_n it_o be_v usual_a to_o apply_v general_a term_n indeterminate_o to_o particular_a thing_n as_o to_o say_v the_o wife_n be_v bind_v the_o man_n be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o woman_n i._n e._n this_o and_o that_o man_n wife_n etc._n etc._n so_o set_v in_o the_o church_n i._n e._n in_o this_o and_o that_o and_o the_o other_o church_n mr._n h._n repli_v further_o several_a body_n be_v one_o body_n generica_o not_o integraty_a because_o not_o unite_v by_o one_o external_a bond_n but_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v unite_v into_o one_o body_n by_o bond_n of_o the_o same_o sovereign_n the_o same_o law_n covenant_n etc._n etc._n pa._n 6._o answ_n either_o particular_a association_n be_v no_o institution_n of_o christ_n or_o they_o have_v several_a union_n law_n act_n and_o end_n man_n as_o man_n have_v their_o union_n law_n act_n etc._n etc._n man_n as_o army_n as_o body_n politic_a have_v their_o union_n law_n act_n differ_v so_o christian_n as_o christian_n have_v their_o law_n proper_a to_o that_o state_n christian_n as_o a_o common_a wealth_n their_o law_n proper_a to_o that_o state_n and_o differ_v from_o the_o other_o law_n if_o church_n union_n be_v one_o and_o that_o catholic_n union_n then_o schism_n the_o breach_n of_o that_o union_n must_v be_v as_o the_o catholic_a breach_n so_o that_o though_o a_o member_n cease_v worship_v with_o this_o assembly_n in_o this_o place_n yet_o if_o he_o worship_v with_o any_o assembly_n part_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_a in_o any_o place_n he_o be_v no_o schismatic_a upon_o which_o reason_n the_o loud_a outcry_n against_o sepration_n be_v unjust_a as_o it_o be_v unreasonable_a upon_o a_o other_o account_n we_o therefore_o yet_o renounce_v the_o name_n and_o thing_n of_o a_o church_n of_o church_n or_o a_o visable_v catholic_n church_n form_v unto_o fellowship_n in_o new_a testament_n ordinance_n in_o which_o term_n we_o declare_v our_o sense_n but_o do_v not_o renounce_v the_o scripture_n nor_o reason_n much_o less_o our_o own_o brother_n as_o dr._n collings_n have_v rash_o affirm_v our_o thought_n for_o this_o abrenuntiation_n be_v confirm_v in_o five_o particular_n wherein_o all_o exception_n consider_v we_o find●_n nothing_o for_o retractation_n 1._o n●_n part_n have_v the_o power_n of_o a_o whole_a in_o it_o every_o particular_a church_n have_v the_o power_n of_o a_o whole_a in_o it_o ergo_fw-la no_o particular_a church_n be_v a_o part_n exception_n dr._n col._n a_o particular_a church_n have_v not_o the_o power_n of_o the_o whole_a because_o not_o power_n to_o make_v a_o synod_n nor_o to_o ordain_v nor_o to_o excommunicate_v answ_n his_o reason_n from_o a_o synod_n be_v reason'esse_n the_o common_a wealth_n of_o england_n be_v a_o whole_a and_o have_v the_o power_n of_o a_o whole_a in_o it●_n yet_o a_o controversy_n arise_v of_o what_o nature_n so_o for_o it_o be_v between_o eng._n and_o another_o commonwealth_n or_o commonwealth_n eng._n have_v no_o power_n to_o constitute_v commissioner_n who_o shall_v debate_v determine_v and_o compose_v that_o difference_n yet_o power_n to_o meet_v in_o a_o treaty_n be_v as_o much_o kingdom_n power_n as_o power_n to_o meet_v in_o a_o synod_n be_v church_n power_n ergo_fw-la either_o england_n power_n be_v incomplete_a or_o the_o drs._n argument_n be_v so_o his_o argument_n from_o ordination_n and_o excommunication_n be_v but_o name_v therefore_o in_o this_o place_n we_o do_v but_o deny_v it_o where_o nothing_o be_v prove_v nothing_o be_v find_v to_o be_v answer_v excep_v mr._n hudson_n a_o particular_a church_n be_v a_o whole_a in_o reference_n to_o its_o own_o member_n but_o in_o reference_n to_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v a_o part_n as_o a_o corporation_n be_v complete_a according_a to_o its_o constitution_n yet_o a_o member_n of_o a_o great_a body_n answ_n if_o a_o corporation_n be_v consider_v with_o reference_n to_o other_o corporation_n to_o which_o it_o stand_v coordinate_a it_o be_v a_o whole_a not_o a_o member_n not_o a_o part_n if_o with_o reference_n to_o a_o kingdom_n to_o which_o it_o stand_v subordinate_a it_o be_v a_o part_n a_o member_n not_o a_o whole_a so_o if_o a_o particular_a congregation_n be_v consider_v with_o reference_n to_o other_o congregation_n to_o which_o it_o stand_v coordinate_a it_o be_v a_o whole_a not_o a_o part_n if_o with_o reference_n to_o a_o church_n to_o which_o it_o stand_v subordinate_a it_o be_v a_o part_n not_o a_o whole_a but_o there_o be_v no_o such_o church_n the_o subordination_n which_o our_o brethren_n plead_v for_o be_v of_o the_o church_n to_o officer_n not_o of_o a_o church_n to_o a_o church_n and_o that_o officer_n be_v not_o call_v the_o church_n in_o scripture_n we_o shall_v show_v and_o that_o by_o their_o own_o principle_n they_o can_v be_v style_v so_o 2._o every_o whole_a be_v real_o distinct_a from_o every_o part_n and_o from_o all_o its_o part_n collective_o consider_v no_o church_n of_o church_n be_v real_o distinct_a from_o all_o particular_a church_n ergo_fw-la there_o be_v no_o such_o church_n except_o dr._n c._n mr._n h._n there_o be_v a_o fallacy_n in_o the_o argument_n it_o be_v a_o maxim_n in_o logic_n totum_fw-la reipsa_fw-la non_fw-la dissert_v a_o partibus_fw-la simul_fw-la sumptis_fw-la &_o vnitis_fw-la answ_n our_o argument_n be_v right_o according_a to_o that_o rule_n part_n simul_fw-la sumptae_fw-la do_v not_o constitute_v a_o totum_fw-la except_o they_o be_v unite_v or_o the_o whole_a differ_v from_o all_o the_o part_n collective_o consider_v though_o unitive_o consider_v it_o differ_v not_o suppose_v ten_o heap_n of_o corn_n in_o one_o room_n contain_v all_o the_o corn_n which_o be_v in_o the_o world_n which_o afterward_o be_v reduce_v into_o one_o great_a heap_n when_o they_o be_v ten_o they_o be_v not_o one_o and_o when_o they_o be_v one_o they_o be_v not_o ten_o of_o the_o suppose_a union_n of_o the_o universal_a political_a church_n something_o have_v be_v speak_v already_o and_o more_o will_v occur_v under_o the_o head_n of_o union_n 3._o there_o be_v no_o universal_a visible_a meeting_n to_o worship_n god_n ergo_fw-la no_o universal_a visible_a church_n for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v congregation_n or_o assembly_n company_n meet_v together_o except_o dr._n collings_n there_o be_v a_o universal_a meeting_n of_o the_o church_n catholic_n visible_a at_o the_o throne_n of_o grace_n etc._n etc._n answ_n we_o wonder_v at_o his_o discourse_n upon_o this_o argument_n for_o from_o our_o instance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o firstborn_a gather_v indeed_o in_o one_o spirit_n unite_v unto_o one_o head_n meet_v invisible_o in_o one_o worship_n he_o will_v obtain_v this_o that_o although_o there_o be_v no_o local_a meeting_n yet_o there_o may_v be_v a_o visible_a church_n when_o it_o speak_v plain_o thus_o much_o viz._n as_o invisible_a union_n and_o invisible_a communion_n be_v necessary_a unto_o the_o be_v of_o the_o invisible_a so_o visible_a union_n &_o visible_a communion_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n although_o we_o may_v be_v present_a with_o dr._n collings_n in_o spirit_n and_o he_o with_o we_o never_o come_v together_o in_o the_o same_o place_n yet_o visible_o present_a we_o can_v be_v nor_o in_o the_o performance_n of_o any_o visible_a work_n exc._n mr._n h._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v a_o call_n out_o not_o a_o call_n together_o the_o particular_a congregation_n be_v rather_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d then_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d answ_n that_o particular_a congregation_n and_o assembly_n of_o people_n whether_o civil_a or_o sacred_a be_v in_o scripture_n always_o term_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d never_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mr_n h._n can_v be_v ignorant_a what_o he_o write_v therefore_o be_v not_o a_o corrective_a from_o the_o writing_n of_o weak_a man_n but_o for_o the_o scripture_n of_o the_o most_o wise_a god_n by_o which_o alone_o we_o desire_v to_o measure_v our_o notion_n and_o expression_n in_o this_o controversy_n be_v it_o so_o that_o the_o scottish_a word_n kirk_n and_o the_o english_a word_n church_n come_v from_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o signify_v the_o lord_n all_o assembly_n be_v not_o so_o proper_o the_o lord_n as_o church-assembly_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yet_o as_o be_v the_o church_n so_o be_v the_o union_n thereof_o so_o the_o work_n and_o meeting_n thereunto_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v the_o general_a assembly_n heb._n 12._o 23._o meeting_n in_o one_o place_n spiritual_o and_o invisible_o they_o be_v all_o come_v to_o mount_n zion_n to_o the_o city_n of_o the_o live_a god_n to_o the_o heavenly_a jerusalem_n heb._n 12._o 22._o they_o be_v all_o choose_v out_o of_o the_o world_n 10._o 15._o 19_o i._n e._n call_v
out_o of_o the_o world_n else_o the_o world_n will_v not_o hate_v they_o they_o be_v all_o gather_v unto_o christ_n gen._n 49._o 10._o the_o particular_a church_n be_v a_o particular_a assembly_n or_o a_o society_n of_o man_n assemble_v together_o for_o the_o celebration_n of_o ordinance_n according_a to_o christ_n appointment_n not_o that_o their_o assemble_v thereunto_o constitute_v they_o a_o church_n but_o it_o be_v a_o main_a end_n of_o their_o union_n and_o the_o fruit_n issue_n and_o manifestation_n of_o their_o constitution_n by_o such_o union_n the_o meeting_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n at_o appoint_a time_n be_v as_o extensive_a as_o the_o church_n itself_o wherefore_o we_o yet_o conclude_v if_o no_o national_a meeting_n no_o national_a church_n if_o no_o universal_a meeting_n no_o universal_a church_n entrust_v with_o the_o administration_n of_o ordinance_n according_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o christ._n 4._o there_o be_v no_o distinct_a officer_n appoint_v for_o such_o a_o church_n ergo_fw-la no_o such_o church_n exc._n dr._n col._n no_o need_n of_o distinct_a officer_n because_o the_o officer_n of_o particular_a congregation_n which_o as_o part_n constitute_v the_o whole_a have_v power_n to_o act_v as_o officer_n in_o any_o of_o those_o part_n which_o unite_v make_v up_o that_o whole_a the_o church_n be_v one_o body_n and_o as_o it_o be_v una_fw-la so_o it_o be_v unita_fw-la in_o one_o common_a profession_n etc._n etc._n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n mr._n h._n every_o minister_n have_v a_o indefinite_a office_n which_o be_v equivalent_a to_o a_o general_n every_o minister_n have_v power_n in_o actu_fw-la primo_fw-la to_o dispense_v the_o word_n in_o any_o sacred_a convention_n and_o though_o not_o a_o actual_a officer_n of_o the_o whole_a yet_o have_v a_o habitual_a power_n etc._n etc._n answ_n it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o in_o all_o civil_a policy_n our_o argument_n stand_v good_a no_o great_a body_n be_v make_v up_o of_o lesser_a but_o it_o have_v a_o great_a authority_n distinct_a in_o law_n and_o government_n from_o the_o lesser_a divers_a town_n unite_v into_o one_o hundred_o divers_a hundred_o into_o one_o county_n diverse_a county_n into_o one_o commonwealth_n be_v in_o their_o several_a subordination_n distinguish_v by_o several_a act_n and_o officer_n appoint_v unto_o they_o if_o diverse_a church_n be_v unite_v into_o one_o church_n sure_o it_o will_v be_v so_o also_o in_o the_o jewish_a polity_n it_o be_v so_o beside_o the_o ruler_n of_o the_o synagogue_n beside_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n through_o every_o tribe_n disperse_v there_o be_v a_o great_a authority_n distinct_a in_o law_n and_o government_n in_o order_n and_o ministration_n from_o they_o viz._n the_o high_a priest_n who_o know_v not_o that_o a_o church_n catholic_n visible_a entrust_v with_o the_o administration_n of_o ordi_fw-la nance_n bath_n be_v hot_o contend_v for_o by_o the_o papist_n as_o a_o fit_a body_n for_o the_o pope_n their_o head_n but_o as_o earnest_o contend_v against_o by_o the_o reform_a they_o see_v no_o truth_n in_o what_o dr._n c._n affirm_v viz._n that_o a_o church_n may_v be_v a_o universal_a visible_a yet_o have_v no_o officer_n over_o it_o or_o act_n perform_v in_o it_o but_o what_o be_v particular_a nor_o will_v it_o salve_v the_o business_n to_o say_v every_o minister_n be_v a_o indefinite_a officer_n with_o habitual_a power_n etc._n etc._n a_o officer_n actu_fw-la primo_fw-la to_o the_o universal_a church_n who_o as_o a_o justice_n of_o peace_n may_v be_v commission_v for_o a_o county_n though_o exercise_v but_o in_o a_o part_n thereof_o for_o a_o justice_n of_o peace_n have_v power_n by_o virtue_n of_o his_o commission_n to_o act_v in_o the_o whole_a county_n without_o any_o other_o call_v &_o fundamentum_fw-la exercitii_fw-la which_o be_v 10._o ans_fw-fr of_o the_o assemb_v pa●_n 10._o deny_v a_o minister_n a_o officer_n actu_fw-la primo_fw-la be_v furnish_v with_o all_o power_n needful_a unto_o and_o productive_a of_o a_o second_o act_n he_o that_o be_v general_a of_o a_o army_n in_o actu_fw-la primo_fw-la have_v power_n over_o the_o army_n exercere_fw-la &_o cocrcere_fw-la a_o particular_a officer_n not_o so_o he_o that_o be_v a_o king_n actu_fw-la primo_fw-la have_v power_n to_o govern_v a_o kingdom_n a_o mayor_n of_o a_o city_n not_o so_o when_o any_o thing_n be_v in_o the_o first_o act_n it_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n for_o a_o second_o act_n in_o nature_n and_o extent_n like_v unto_o the_o first_o if_o a_o minister_n have_v not_o the_o exercise_n of_o power_n in_o every_o church_n if_o he_o have_v not_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o exercise_n in_o any_o but_o his_o particular_a church_n to_o who_o he_o stand_v relate_v as_o their_o minister_n he_o be_v not_o a_o minister_n actu_fw-la primo_fw-la to_o every_o church_n the_o case_n of_o a_o officer_n definite_a to_o some_o viz._n to_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o indefinite_a to_o other_o viz._n to_o a_o catholic_n church_n be_v a_o strange_a case_n instance_n sometime_o give_v in_o lawyer_n physician_n etc._n etc._n reach_v it_o not_o who_o as_o so_o be_v not_o officer_n over_o any_o nor_o have_v they_o office_n rule_v to_o parallel_v it_o there_o be_v no_o church_n great_a than_o that_o which_o have_v power_n to_o hear_v and_o determine_v upon_o offence_n commit_v but_o that_o be_v particular_a exc._n dr._n c._n this_o argument_n be_v nothing_o to_o the_o question_n which_o be_v not_o which_o be_v great_a but_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o catholic_n church_n or_o no_o the_o particular_a church_n have_v not_o power_n of_o final_a determination_n answ_n when_o a_o question_n be_v de_fw-fr toto_fw-la make_v up_o of_o divers_a part_n it_o be_v out_o of_o question_n that_o a_o whole_a be_v great_a than_o its_o part_n he_o that_o prove_v the_o preended_a whole_a not_o great_a than_o the_o suppose_a part_n pr_v ve_z that_o to_o be_v no_o whole_a and_o these_o to_o be_v no_o part_n and_o so_o speak_v to_o the_o question_n and_o resolve_v it_o that_o power_n of_o final_a determination_n be_v in_o the_o particular_a church_n we_o prove_v mat._n 18._o 17._o which_o scripture_n either_o be_v no_o rule_n to_o bring_v the_o offence_n unto_o the_o church_n particular_a at_o all_o or_o be_v a_o rule_n to_o end_v it_o there_o and_o if_o christ_n have_v place_v power_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o seven_o we_o may_v not_o remove_v it_o to_o place_v it_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o seventy_o though_o more_o wise_a and_o judicious_a than_o the_o exc._n mr._n h._n by_o the_o church_n christ_n do_v mean_v the_o elder_n the_o people_n never_o have_v any_o right_n of_o judicature_n among_o the_o jew_n but_o the_o court_n where_o appeal_n be_v from_o three_o judge_n to_o 23._o and_o from_o 23._o to_o the_o sanhedrim_n no_o christian_a congregation_n be_v institute_v when_o christ_n speak_v mat._n 18._o 17._o it_o be_v to_o be_v take_v therefore_o in_o the_o jew_n dialect_n etc._n etc._n answ_n that_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o church_n be_v by_o a_o synecdoche_n call_v a_o church_n in_o scripture_n can_v be_v clear_o evince_v from_o one_o text_n nor_o be_v it_o suitable_a to_o mr._n h._n his_o principle_n to_o attribute_v that_o denomination_n to_o officer_n either_o in_o congregational_a or_o classical_a or_o high_a assembly_n for_o he_o say_v vindic_a p._n 126._o the_o body_n of_o officer_n be_v a_o govern_v body_n but_o the_o whole_a church_n whether_o general_a or_o particular_a be_v not_o a_o govern_v body_n ergo_fw-la say_v we_o the_o body_n of_o officer_n be_v not_o the_o church_n general_a or_o particular_a again_o every_o church_n say_v he_o be_v a_o similar_v part_n of_o the_o catholic_n obtain_v its_o denomination_n upon_o that_o account_n pag._n 123._o and_o elsewhere_o whence_o this_o be_v clear_a that_o the_o eldership_n of_o lesser_a or_o great_a congregation_n be_v not_o a_o church_n such_o a_o body_n indeed_o be_v a_o body_n of_o organ_n not_o a_o organical_a body_n though_o it_o shall_v be_v suppose_v a_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n yet_o can_v it_o not_o be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o singular_a part_n so_o that_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o similarity_n it_o shall_v though_o a_o particular_a bear_v the_o name_n of_o the_o universal_a and_o be_v style_v a_o church_n that_o offence_n among_o the_o jew_n be_v never_o bring_v before_o the_o people_n to_o be_v judge_v and_o sensure_v but_o before_o officer_n meet_v apart_o from_o they_o we_o believe_v not_o mos_fw-la suit_n hebraeis_n rem_fw-la ultimo_fw-la loco_fw-la ad_fw-la multitudinem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n eorum_fw-la qui_fw-la eadem_fw-la instituta_fw-la sectarentur_fw-la producer_n cujus_fw-la tamen_fw-la multitudinis_fw-la juditia_fw-la seniores_fw-la tar_n quam_fw-la preside_v moderabantur_fw-la grot._fw-la in_o mat._n 18._o 17._o and_o this_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o christian_n in_o tertullia_n time_n who_o be_v convert_v to_o the_o faith_n an●o_o
answer_v they_o can_v not_o partly_o because_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v a_o act_n of_o many_o especial_o when_o in_o a_o assembly_n partly_o because_o whatsoever_o be_v put_v to_o suffrage_n may_v be_v determine_v by_o the_o major_a voice_n in_o case_n of_o dissent_n but_o this_o be_v impossible_a where_o there_o be_v but_o two_o for_o paul_n can_v not_o out-vote_n barnabas_n nor_o barnabas_n out-vote_n paul_n if_o paul_n have_v give_v his_o voice_n for_o one_o and_o barnabas_n have_v dissent_v and_o have_v give_v his_o voice_n for_o another_o against_o paul_n we_o ask_v who_o shall_v have_v carry_v it_o when_o the_o word_n denote_v the_o act_n of_o the_o indivisible_a god_n act_v 10_o v._o 41._o it_o be_v not_o take_v proper_o as_o it_o be_v in_o act_n 14._o 23._o but_o figurative_o as_o god_n be_v say_v to_o have_v eye_n ear_n hand_n etc._n etc._n so_o by_o a_o metaphor_n he_o be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o this_o answer_v his_o second_o particular_a vind._n revind_n pag._n 129._o 130._o 3._o the_o greek_n be_v as_o strong_a for_o we_o as_o the_o english_a translation_n for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d denote_v the_o people_n election_n by_o suffrage_n and_o be_v not_o so_o clear_o in_o apposition_n with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o he_o suppose_v but_o rather_o in_o di-junction_a it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o article_n 〈◊〉_d habet_fw-la locum_fw-la in_o divisienibus_fw-la according_a to_o grammar_n and_o if_o the_o pray_n and_o fast_v relate_v not_o to_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o elder_n as_o the_o dr._n say_v pag._n 130._o but_o to_o the_o apostle_n departure_n than_o the_o whole_a verse_n may_v refer_v to_o the_o people_n for_o it_o be_v the_o usual_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n to_o commend_v the_o apostle_n unto_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n by_o solemn_a prayer_n in_o such_o part_n be_v acts._n 14._o 26._o act_n 15._o 40._o and_o paul_n choose_v silas_n and_o depart_v be_v recommend_v by_o the_o brethren_n unto_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n 4._o we_o have_v prove_v that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d must_v be_v take_v for_o election_n or_o choose_n by_o suffrage_n and_o not_o for_o ordination_n and_o thence_o infer_v that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n can_v not_o be_v the_o only_a person_n that_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d our_o argument_n for_o that_o inferrence_n be_v this_o that_o which_o be_v never_o in_o scripture_n give_v to_o the_o officer_n and_o be_v undoubted_o give_v to_o the_o people_n can_v be_v the_o act_n of_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n only_o but_o the_o power_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o choose_v officer_n by_o suffrage_n be_v never_o in_o scripture_n give_v to_o the_o officer_n and_o be_v undoubted_o give_v to_o the_o people_n act_v 6._o ergo_fw-la the_o powe_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o choose_v officer_n by_o suffrage_n can_v be_v the_o act_n of_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n only_o and_o whether_o this_o be_v a_o beg_v the_o question_n or_o a_o prove_v what_o we_o assert_v let_v the_o reader_n judge_n he_o bid_v we_o vind._n revind_n pag._n 131._o see_v if_o there_o be_v one_o word_n in_o the_o epistle_n to_o timothy_n or_o titus_n for_o the_o people_n choice_n we_o turn_v it_o upon_o himself_o let_v he_o see_v if_o there_o be_v one_o word_n in_o those_o epistle_n for_o the_o officer_n choice_n or_o for_o the_o give_v the_o power_n of_o election_n unto_o officer_n what_o he_o add_v vind._n revind_n pag._n 132_o 133._o be_v to_o deny_v that_o every_o particular_a church_n be_v able_a to_o judge_v of_o the_o ability_n of_o a_o minister_n we_o have_v prove_v their_o ability_n from_o john_n 10._o v._o 4._o 5._o see_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 225._o 237._o ob._n 1._o how_o can_v they_o judge_v if_o a_o minister_n be_v able_a to_o convince_v againsay_v socinian_n or_o arminian_n or_o papist_n who_o know_v not_o what_o any_o of_o they_o hold_v vind._n revind_n pag._n 132._o answ_n 1._o it_o be_v possible_a for_o those_o to_o judge_v whether_o a_o man_n be_v able_a to_o convince_v gainsayer_n who_o know_v not_o what_o many_o of_o they_o hold_v the_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n who_o be_v administrator_n of_o ordination_n in_o england_n 10._o 20._o 30._o or_o 40_o year_n ago_o can_v not_o know_v what_o quaker_n and_o other_o blasphemer_n will_v hold_v yet_o sure_o he_o will_v not_o say_v that_o they_o can_v not_o judge_v whether_o those_o which_o they_o ordain_v be_v able_a to_o convince_v gainsayer_n and_o why_o may_v not_o a_o church_n as_o well_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v of_o a_o minister_n ability_n to_o convince_v gainsayer_n though_o it_o know_v not_o what_o socinian_n or_o arminian_o hold_v 2._o although_o some_o church_n member_n know_v not_o error_n by_o the_o name_n of_o socinian_o etc._n etc._n yet_o if_o they_o hear_v they_o broach_v they_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v that_o they_o be_v contrary_a to_o sound_v dostrine_n as_o for_o those_o which_o 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woman_n not_o because_o they_o want_v ability_n about_o which_o the_o present_a question_n be_v 2._o it_o must_v belong_v to_o every_o sheep_n of_o christ_n if_o john_n 10._o v._o 5._o reach_v so_o far_o as_o he_o conclude_v it_o do_v pag._n 133._o for_o such_o sheep_n as_o be_v hearer_n be_v there_o assert_v to_o have_v both_o ability_n and_o liberty_n to_o judge_v what_o teacher_n they_o be_v to_o follow_v and_o who_o they_o be_v to_o avoid_v that_o one_o sell_v v._o 16._o be_v one_o specifical_o jew_n and_o gentile_n have_v one_o kind_n of_o church_n order_n not_o one_o numerical_o all_o do_v not_o make_v up_o one_o church_n of_o church_n but_o how_o he_o can_v reconcile_v his_o own_o expression_n upon_o this_o text_n and_o make_v they_o agree_v in_o one_o we_o know_v not_o for_o he_o tell_v we_o the_o text_n say_v my_o sheep_n not_o my_o fold_n what_o be_v here_o make_v to_o belong_v to_o sheep_n belong_v to_o every_o sheep_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 133._o if_o our_o brethren_n say_v the_o text_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o christ_n sheep_n as_o fold_v together_o in_o the_o church_n we_o grant_v what_o they_o say_v but_o say_v it_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o one_o fold_n ver_fw-la 16._o do_v not_o one_o of_o the_o expression_n deny_v it_o to_o be_v christ_n fold_n and_o the_o other_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v his_o fold_n that_o be_v there_o intend_a 3._o although_o this_o or_o that_o church-member_n take_v single_o may_v want_v ability_n to_o judge_v of_o ministerial_a qualification_n yet_o all_o the_o member_n of_o a_o church_n form_v according_a to_o christ_n institution_n be_v gather_v together_o in_o christ_n name_n to_o wait_v for_o counsel_n at_o his_o mouth_n in_o such_o a_o matter_n will_v be_v able_a and_o so_o it_o may_v well_o belong_v to_o they_o to_o judge_v whether_o a_o man_n hold_v fast_o the_o faithful_a word_n be_v apt_a to_o teach_v and_o be_v able_a by_o sound_a doctrine_n to_o exhort_v and_o convince_v gainsayers_a chap._n vi_o show_v that_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n as_o officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a church_n in_o way_n of_o reply_n to_o mr._n pool_n exception_n in_o the_o three_o first_o chapter_n of_o his_o book_n there_o come_v late_o to_o our_o hand_n a_o book_n entitle_v a_o moderate_a enquiry_n into_o the_o warrantableness_n of_o the_o preach_n of_o gift_a and_o unordained_a person_n write_v by_o mr._n poole_n at_o the_o desire_n and_o appointment_n of_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n of_o london_n in_o way_n of_o reply_n to_o some_o part_n of_o our_o book_n entitle_v the_o preacher_n sent._n we_o shall_v give_v some_o brief_a animadversion_n upon_o the_o most_o considerable_a passage_n of_o his_o book_n and_o
ordinance_n appoint_v for_o his_o good_a be_v according_a to_o mr._n poole_n a_o church-member_n but_o he_o who_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v under_o a_o church-ordinance_n for_o his_o good_a ergo_fw-la according_a to_o mr._n pool_n he_o who_o be_v excomunicate_v for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o church-member_n and_o that_o the_o same_o ordinance_n of_o excommunication_n do_v pass_v upon_o some_o and_o cut_v they_o off_o from_o church-membership_a and_o pass_v upon_o other_o and_o leave_v they_o member_n still_o let_v he_o prove_v 4._o neither_o they_o in_o their_o jus_fw-la divin_n min._n nor_o we_o in_o our_o former_a book_n do_v speak_v of_o the_o cease_n of_o baptism_n as_o to_o the_o actual_a privilege_n of_o it_o or_o as_o to_o man_n account_n only_o or_o chief_o but_o about_o the_o cease_n of_o the_o water_n baptism_n itself_o and_o therefore_o what_o mr._n pool_n s●ith_o p._n 27._o be_v altogether_o beside_o the_o question_n neither_o do_v his_o instance_n of_o circumcision_n help_v he_o for_o if_o any_o turn_v heathen_a or_o idolater_n and_o renounce_v his_o circumcision_n yet_o he_o remain_v a_o circumcise_a person_n and_o his_o circumcision_n may_v be_v a_o witness_n against_o he_o though_o he_o be_v to_o be_v repute_v as_o a_o heathen_a while_o such_o and_o so_o we_o apprehend_v though_o a_o baptize_v person_n cease_v by_o excommunication_n to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o any_o visible_a church_n yet_o this_o baptism_n cease_v not_o but_o if_o it_o do_v real_o cease_v as_o they_o say_v it_o do_v rebaptise_v will_v necessary_o be_v infer_v 5._o if_o baptism_n itself_o about_o which_o the_o question_n be_v do_v cease_v upon_o the_o cessation_n of_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o upon_o the_o person_n repentance_n the_o lord_n shall_v impute_v his_o former_a baptism_n to_o he_o be_v such_o a_o notion_n as_o to_o use_v his_o own_o phrase_n in_o scripture_n there_o be_v ne_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o such_o thing_n 6._o if_o a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v make_v his_o baptism_n cease_v upon_o its_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o that_o as_o they_o assert_v then_o a_o pari_fw-la a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n by_o excommunication_n or_o otherwise_o will_v make_v his_o baptism_n ceasesupon_o its_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o that_o &_o so_o rebaptise_v must_v follow_v upon_o readmission_n so_o that_o this_o fall_v heavy_a upon_o their_o principle_n but_o it_o touch_v not_o we_o because_o we_o deny_v baptism_n to_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o an●_n church_n and_o this_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 27._o he_o say_v pag._n 28._o we_o grant_v that_o baptism_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o a_o man_n admission_n to_o the_o church_n reply_n he_o much_o mistake_v we_o for_o we_o do_v not_o grant_v that_o 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church_n and_o then_o baptism_n can_v be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n we_o say_v baptism_n make_v not_o a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n by_o which_o we_o intend_v only_o this_o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v a_o man_n into_o any_o church_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 28_o call_v this_o a_o monstrous_a paradox_n which_o shall_v not_o have_v be_v dictate_v without_o any_o proof_n etc._n etc._n reply_n we_o have_v not_o mere_o dictate_v it_o but_o have_v give_v clear_a proof_n for_o it_o preacher_n send_v pag._n 284._o 286._o 292_o 293._o himself_n grant_v that_o both_o infant_n and_o otner_n be_v church-member_n inchoate_v before_o baptism_n pag._n 24._o church-membership_a be_v a_o relation_n and_o as_o it_o be_v gross_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o a_o man_n be_v a_o father_n or_o master_n etc._n etc._n inchoate_n but_o not_o a_o complete_a father_n or_o master_n so_o its_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o one_o be_v enchoate_n only_o a_o church-member_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v admit_v not_o by_o but_o before_o baptism_n but_o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o make_v man_n member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v large_o prove_v in_o the_o answer_n of_o new-england_n elder_n to_o the_o 32._o question_n pag._n 12_o to_o 20._o ob._n 1._o we_o be_v all_o baptize_v into_o one_o body_n 1_o corin._n 12._o 13._o by_o which_o it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o baptism_n give_v a_o man_n relation_n to_o some_o body_n etc._n etc._n mr._n pool_n pag._n 28._o ans_fw-fr the_o whole_a stress_n of_o this_o argument_n depend_v upon_o translate_n the_o preposition_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d into_o whereas_o it_o be_v frequent_o use_v to_o signify_v in_o be_v mat._n 2._o ver_fw-la 23._o he_o come_v and_o dwell_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o a_o city_n etc._n etc._n so_o 1_o peter_n 5._o 12._o act_n 2._o 27._o luke_n 11._o 7._o mark_v 1._o v._o 9_o be_v baptize_v of_o john_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o jordan_n and_o hence_o 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