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B08272 Animadversions upon the Antisynodalia americana, a treatise printed in old England; in the name of the dissenting brethren in the synod held at Boston in New England 1662. Tending to clear the elders and churches of New England from those evils and declinings charged upon many of them in the two prefaces before the said book. Together with an answer unto the reasons alledged for the opinion of the dissenters, and a reply to such answers as are given to the arguments of the synod. / by John Allin, pastor of the Church of Christ at Dedham in N. England. Allin, John, 1596-1671. 1664 (1664) Wing A1035; ESTC W19760 64,983 88

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such_o be_v the_o proper_a subject_n thereof_o as_o if_o such_o and_o only_o such_o be_v to_o be_v baptise_a this_o of_o full_a communion_n our_o brethren_n think_v will_v advantage_v their_o cause_n and_o so_o have_v put_v it_o in_o but_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a addition_n to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o whole_o fail_v they_o of_o any_o proof_n yea_o make_v evident_o against_o they_o in_o that_o principal_a place_n act_v 2.38_o 39_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o they_o be_v baptise_a before_o their_o full_a communion_n for_o 1._o peter_n call_v they_o to_o be_v baptise_a upon_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o promise_n ver_fw-la 38._o 2._o they_o be_v baptise_a and_o add_v to_o the_o church_n before_o full_a communion_n ver_fw-la 41_o 42._o 3._o it_o have_v be_v very_o preposterous_a to_o put_v they_o into_o full_a communion_n before_o union_n with_o the_o church_n seal_v by_o baptism_n for_o baptism_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o union_n with_o the_o church_n 1_o cor._n 12.13_o which_o must_v go_v 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stone_n see_v also_o act_v 18.5_o 6._o &_o 19.8_o 9_o and_o therefore_o so_o long_o as_o the_o gentile_a church_n do_v profess_v jesus_n christ_n and_o his_o gospel_n and_o ordinance_n they_o may_v stand_v in_o the_o visible_a covenant_n through_o the_o patience_n of_o god_n though_o they_o or_o many_o of_o their_o member_n do_v not_o hold_v out_o such_o a_o profession_n of_o save_v faith_n visible_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n otherwiser_n we_o must_v unchurch_n many_o such_o society_n of_o christian_n who_o the_o lord_n have_v not_o unchurch_v but_o continue_v to_o they_o the_o mean_n and_o ordinance_n of_o grace_n 3._o i_o deny_v that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o difference_n between_o the_o church-covenant_n and_o that_o of_o grace_n for_o as_o be_v say_v in_o the_o second_o proposition_n premise_v chap._n 2._o there_o be_v indeed_o a_o differ_a dispensation_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n in_o the_o church_n viz._n outward_o in_o the_o privilege_n ordinance_n and_o mean_n of_o grace_n to_o the_o whole_a visible_a church_n or_o inward_o in_o the_o save_v benefit_n thereof_o to_o true_a believer_n now_o that_o the_o dispensation_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n to_o the_o whole_a visible_a church_n be_v the_o dispensation_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v prove_v 1._o because_o god_n give_v himself_o to_o be_v the_o god_n of_o all_o the_o visible_a church_n gen._n 17._o i_o will_v be_v thy_o god_n and_o he_o avouch_v they_o to_o be_v his_o people_n and_o they_o avouch_v he_o to_o be_v their_o god_n deut._n 26.17_o 18._o now_o this_o be_v the_o first_o and_o chief_a benefit_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o contain_v all_o the_o rest_n as_o mr._n cotton_n note_v upon_o that_o covenant_n 2._o because_o the_o mean_n of_o grace_n and_o life_n and_o the_o offer_n of_o christ_n and_o grace_n be_v give_v to_o all_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n rom._n 3.1_o 2_o 3._o &_o 9.4_o 3._o because_o all_o in_o church-covenant_n stand_v bind_v thereby_o to_o believe_v repent_v and_o perform_v the_o condition_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o this_o our_o brethren_n confess_v that_o church-covenant_n require_v they_o shall_v walk_v with_o god_n according_a to_o the_o gospel_n which_o be_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n i_o have_v the_o more_o insist_v on_o this_o passage_n because_o the_o right_a understanding_n hereof_o be_v of_o much_o use_n to_o the_o main_a question_n in_o debate_n that_o these_o in_o the_o five_o proposition_n be_v still_o in_o covenant_n the_o synod_n prove_v because_o they_o be_v once_o in_o covenant_n and_o never_o cut_v off_o from_o it_o ans_fw-fr to_o this_o our_o brethren_n answer_v the_o lord_n himself_o discovenant_n they_o mat._n 3._o joh._n 8.39_o 40_o 41_o 42._o where_o the_o lord_n take_v away_o their_o plea_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o tell_v they_o they_o have_v the_o devil_n for_o their_o father_n and_o that_o without_o any_o act_n of_o church-discipline_n etc._n etc._n they_o may_v reject_v the_o counsel_n of_o god_n against_o themselves_o as_o the_o pharisee_n luke_n 7._o they_o may_v be_v felones_n de_fw-fr se_fw-la as_o mr._n cotton_n speak_v etc._n etc._n there_o be_v other_o ground_n of_o break_v off_o the_o covenant_n beside_o notorious_a sin_n and_o incorrigibleness_n therein_o as_o not_o stand_v by_o faith_n not_o bring_v forth_o f●uit_n mat._n 3.10_o not_o do_v righteousness_n 1_o joh._n 3.10_o reply_n i_o have_v many_o thing_n to_o reply_v here_o 1._o do_v the_o lord_n himself_o discovenant_v all_o those_o out_o of_o his_o visible_a church_n speak_v of_o m●●_n 3_o joh._n 8_o be_v their_o seed_n thereby_o cut_v off_o from_o circumcision_n be_v they_o exclude_v from_o the_o sacrifice_n and_o temple-worship_n who_o can_v believe_v this_o when_o we_o see_v the_o lord_n jesus_n so_o oft_o communicate_v with_o they_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n when_o he_o call_v they_o still_o the_o lose_a sheep_n of_o
not_o to_o break_v it_o 2._o then_o it_o be_v a_o breach_n like_o the_o great_a sea_n to_o deny_v communion_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o those_o that_o have_v lay_v hold_v upon_o the_o covenant_n and_o give_v up_o themselves_o to_o god_n by_o solemn_a profession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n which_o be_v now_o strong_o plead_v for_o reply_n 1._o whether_o these_o be_v not_o regular_o in_o the_o covenant_n let_v the_o reader_n judge_v by_o what_o be_v say_v for_o it_o and_o by_o the_o scripture_n allege_v against_o it_o 2._o to_o deny_v communion_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o such_o be_v not_o plead_v for_o much_o less_o strong_o for_o solemn_z profession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v not_o in_o the_o proposition_n all_o that_o be_v affirm_v be_v that_o the_o church-seed_n manifest_v their_o continuance_n in_o the_o covenant_n by_o such_o qualification_n if_o they_o shall_v still_o be_v want_v in_o ability_n to_o examine_v themselves_o and_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n may_v be_v delay_v till_o they_o give_v satisfaction_n therein_o 3._o our_o brethren_n in_o this_o case_n deal_v very_o hardly_o and_o partial_o with_o we_o while_o so_o oft_o they_o compare_v these_o with_o the_o most_o scandalous_a person_n reprove_v in_o scripture_n and_o with_o they_o discovenant_v as_o they_o pretend_v and_o yet_o at_o other_o time_n they_o lay_v it_o deep_o to_o our_o charge_n that_o we_o do_v not_o receive_v they_o to_o the_o lord_n table_n upon_o such_o term_n as_o be_v deny_v by_o they_o to_o be_v sufficient_a to_o continue_v they_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n arg._n 4._o these_o parent_n be_v confederate_a visible_a believer_n in_o some_o degree_n and_o therefore_o their_o child_n be_v to_o be_v baptise_a ans_fw-fr the_o parent_n in_o question_n be_v not_o such_o if_o we_o speak_v of_o true_a visible_a faith_n which_o be_v require_v rom._n 14.1_o mat._n 12.20_o reply_n be_v it_o grant_v that_o we_o speak_v of_o true_a faith_n visible_o in_o some_o 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