better_a than_o you_o have_v hitherto_a do_v 3._o what_o the_o most_o honourable_a lord_n of_o his_o majesty_n privy_a counsel_n have_v do_v concern_v the_o king_n majesty_n last_o proclamation_n be_v not_o sufficient_o know_v to_o we_o and_o far_o less_o upon_o what_o ground_n and_o motive_n they_o have_v as_o you_o say_v rescind_v their_o approbation_n of_o the_o late_a proclamation_n 4._o his_o majesty_n religious_a and_o righteous_a disposition_n have_v be_v to_o we_o and_o be_v a_o main_a ground_n wherefore_o we_o rest_v and_o rely_v upon_o his_o gracious_a proclamation_n persuade_v ourselves_o that_o he_o intend_v not_o nor_o never_o intend_v any_o innovation_n in_o religion_n 5._o we_o shall_v labour_v by_o all_o mean_n to_o eschew_v every_o thing_n which_o in_o the_o least_o degree_n may_v wrong_v you_o our_o reverend_n and_o worthy_a brethren_n as_o for_o the_o wrong_n already_o do_v by_o we_o to_o you_o as_o you_o pretend_v when-so-eve_a it_o shall_v please_v you_o to_o specify_v they_o we_o hope_v to_o give_v you_o full_a satisfaction_n and_o to_o clear_v ourselves_o of_o that_o imputation_n 6._o the_o work_n of_o god_n towards_o any_o nation_n how_o strange_a and_o wonderful_a soev_a it_o seem_v to_o be_v be_v never_o contrary_a to_o his_o word_n and_o therefore_o we_o fear_v not_o to_o be_v find_v fight_v against_o god_n work_n so_o long_o as_o we_o fight_v not_o against_o his_o truth_n reveal_v in_o his_o word_n that_o all-seeing_a lord_n know_v that_o we_o mentaine_v his_o truth_n according_a to_o the_o light_n of_o our_o conscience_n and_o be_v ready_a to_o join_v heart_n and_o hand_n with_o you_o for_o the_o purity_n and_o peace_n of_o this_o church_n in_o every_o lawful_a way_n &_o course_n as_o sincere_a lover_n of_o truth_n and_o peace_n and_o now_o brethren_n before_o we_o conclude_v again_o we_o entreat_v you_o and_o all_z other_o our_o dear_a countryman_n especial_o our_o reverend_a brother_n of_o the_o holy_a ministry_n to_o judge_v charitable_o of_o we_o and_o of_o our_o proceed_n at_o this_o time_n and_o in_o particular_a of_o these_o our_o demand_n and_o reply_v which_o god_n be_v our_o witness_n neither_o hatred_n of_o any_o man_n person_n nor_o love_n of_o contention_n nor_o any_o worldly_a respect_n but_o only_o the_o conscience_n of_o our_o call_v have_v draw_v from_o we_o and_o as_o for_o our_o argument_n for_o not_o subscrive_v which_o be_v take_v from_o our_o due_a subjection_n and_o obedience_n to_o our_o sovereign_n and_o his_o law_n we_o protest_v and_o declare_v that_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v so_o interpret_v as_o if_o we_o intend_v to_o accuse_v you_o or_o other_o our_o dear_a countryman_n of_o disloyalty_n towards_o our_o most_o gracious_a king_n or_o as_o if_o our_o purpose_n be_v to_o lay_v any_o such_o imputation_n upon_o you_o for_o they_o be_v only_o use_v by_o we_o to_o show_v what_o the_o word_n of_o the_o covenant_n seem_v to_o we_o to_o import_v and_o how_o we_o conceive_v of_o they_o as_o also_o what_o make_v we_o so_o to_o conceive_v of_o they_o we_o doubt_v not_o reverend_a brethren_n but_o you_o know_v that_o as_o we_o owe_v to_o you_o and_o to_o your_o proceed_n the_o favourable_a judgement_n of_o charity_n so_o we_o ought_v to_o judge_v of_o those_o thing_n which_o we_o be_v to_o swear_v and_o subscrive_v with_o the_o strict_a and_o inquisitive_a judgement_n of_o verity_n and_o consequent_o we_o ought_v to_o ponder_v due_o and_o to_o propound_v particular_o and_o full_o to_o other_o especial_o to_o those_o who_o require_v our_o oath_n and_o subscription_n and_o undertake_v to_o satisfy_v our_o conscience_n there-anent_a all_o the_o doubt_n and_o reason_n which_o make_v we_o unwilling_a or_o afraid_a to_o give_v our_o subscription_n thereunto_o john_n forbes_n of_o corse_n doctor_n and_o professor_n of_o divinity_n in_o aberdene_n alexander_z scrogie_n minister_n at_o old_a aberdene_n d._n d._n william_n leslie_n d._n d._n and_o principal_a of_o the_o king_n college_n in_o old_a aberdene_n robert_z baron_n doctor_n and_o professor_n of_o divinity_n and_o minister_n at_o aberdene_n james_n sibbald_n doctor_n of_o divinity_n and_o minister_n at_o aberdene_n alexander_z ross_z doctor_z of_o divinity_n and_o minister_n at_o aberdene_n the_o answeres_fw-la of_o some_o brethren_n of_o the_o ministry_n to_o the_o reply_v of_o the_o minister_n and_o professoures_n of_o divinity_n in_o aberdene_n concern_v the_o late_a covenant_n 2._o chron._n 15._o 15._o and_o all_o juda_n rejoice_v at_o the_o oath_n for_o they_o have_v swear_v with_o all_o their_o heart_n and_o seek_v he_o with_o their_o whole_a desire_n and_o he_o be_v find_v of_o they_o to_o the_o christian_a reader_n that_o you_o may_v know_v our_o proceed_n how_o we_o be_v bring_v upon_o the_o stage_n and_o contrary_a to_o our_o expectation_n be_v put_v in_o print_n come_v to_o aberdene_n on_o friday_n the_o afternoon_n we_o receive_v the_o demand_n of_o our_o reverend_a brethren_n that_o night_n late_o and_o for_o the_o great_a expedition_n without_o delay_n we_o return_v our_o summarie_n answer_v on_o saturnday_n at_o night_n on_o the_o lord_n day_n follow_v we_o desire_v to_o express_v ourselves_o to_o the_o people_n in_o presence_n of_o the_o ministry_n but_o the_o pulpit_n and_o kirk_n be_v altogether_o refuse_v and_o therefore_o in_o the_o most_o convenient_a place_n we_o can_v have_v sub_fw-la dio_fw-mi and_o at_o such_o hour_n as_o be_v vacant_a from_o the_o ordinary_a exercise_n of_o public_a worship_n we_o deliver_v our_o message_n in_o the_o audience_n of_o many_o after_o our_o last_o sermon_n towards_o evening_n we_o find_v that_o our_o labour_n be_v not_o in_o vain_a in_o the_o lord_n for_o dyverse_a person_n of_o special_a note_n both_o for_o place_n and_o wisdom_n with_o willing_a heart_n and_o great_a readiness_n of_o mind_n do_v publicklie_o put_v their_o hand_n to_o the_o covenant_n have_v the_o week_n follow_v see_v some_o part_n of_o the_o country_n where_o beside_o the_o presbytery_n alforde_n and_o deer_n who_o have_v subscrive_v before_o the_o moderator_n and_o dyverse_v of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o aberdene_n the_o presbytery_n and_o people_n of_o turreff_a after_o they_o be_v satisfy_v in_o some_o scruple_n do_v also_o subscrive_v we_o return_v the_o next_o saturnday_n to_o aberdene_n where_o find_v that_o some_o other_o have_v subscrive_v that_o week_n we_o resolve_v to_o preach_v upon_o the_o morn_n that_o night_n we_o receive_v a_o reply_n unto_o which_o before_o our_o return_n home_o we_o have_v make_v a_o answer_n all_o these_o we_o desire_v may_v be_v unpartial_o consider_v &_o if_o it_o shall_v please_v the_o lord_n that_o any_o light_n shall_v come_v from_o our_o labour_n unto_o thy_o mind_n let_v it_o be_v asâ—ryved_v not_o unto_o we_o who_o neither_o have_v time_n nor_o help_n for_o such_o a_o task_n but_o to_o the_o brightness_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o cause_v itself_o and_o to_o the_o father_n of_o light_n to_o who_o be_v all_o glory_n to_o our_o reverend_a brethren_n the_o doctor_n and_o minister_n of_o aberdene_n that_o our_o answer_n reverend_a and_o belove_a brethren_n have_v not_o give_v you_o full_a satisfaction_n as_o it_o may_v be_v impute_v to_o our_o weakness_n in_o the_o defence_n of_o so_o good_a a_o cause_n so_o it_o may_v proceed_v also_o from_o your_o own_o prejudice_n against_o what_o can_v be_v say_v by_o we_o which_o we_o have_v some_o reason_n to_o suspect_v for_o two_o cause_n one_o be_v that_o your_o demand_n which_o we_o conceive_v to_o have_v be_v intend_v mere_o for_o we_o and_o be_v send_v unto_o we_o from_o you_o in_o write_v be_v publish_v before_o our_o come_n in_o print_n like_v as_o you_o have_v now_o print_v and_o publish_v your_o reply_v before_o you_o have_v see_v our_o answer_n unto_o that_o which_o we_o receive_v from_o you_o last_o in_o write_v we_o have_v promise_v to_o the_o bearer_n to_o return_v a_o answer_n short_o ere_o we_o depart_v the_o country_n this_o may_v seem_v rather_o to_o be_v a_o seek_n of_o victory_n from_o prejudice_n than_o a_o search_n of_o verity_n for_o satisfaction_n the_o other_o cause_n of_o our_o suspicion_n be_v that_o the_o ground_n of_o our_o answer_n to_o you_o have_v prove_v satisfactory_a to_o other_o who_o for_o age_n and_o gift_n of_o learning_n and_o understanding_n be_v prime_n man_n in_o this_o church_fw-mi and_o kingdom_n and_o to_o who_o modest_o will_v not_o suffer_v you_o to_o prefer_v yourselves_o but_o whether_o our_o weakness_n or_o your_o prejudice_n be_v the_o cause_n must_v be_v now_o judge_v by_o other_o to_o who_o view_n you_o have_v bring_v we_o who_o therefore_o we_o with_o you_o hearty_o desire_v unpartial_o to_o consider_v our_o first_o and_o second_o answer_v wish_v and_o hope_v that_o partiality_n prejudice_n and_o all_o worldly_a respect_n and_o fear_n lay_v aside_o the_o naked_a truth_n shall_v
you_o have_v his_o princely_a promise_n that_o no_o further_o shall_v be_v urge_v upon_o we_o but_o by_o such_o a_o fair_a and_o legal_a way_n as_o may_v fatisfie_v all_o his_o subject_n 6._o as_o for_o that_o which_o your_o covenant_n by_o your_o own_o confession_n require_v of_o we_o to_o wiâ—_n the_o forbearance_n and_o abstinence_n for_o a_o time_n from_o the_o practise_v the_o article_n of_o pearth_n we_o profess_v sincere_o and_o in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n that_o our_o conscience_n will_v not_o suffer_v we_o to_o subscrive_v that_o part_n of_o your_o covenant_n and_o that_o because_o law_n be_v stand_v for_o they_o and_o our_o lawful_a superioure_n requyre_v obedience_n from_o we_o by_o practise_v they_o to_o swear_v forbearance_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o they_o be_v to_o swear_v disobedience_n and_o to_o wrong_v their_o authority_n 7._o how_o can_v we_o with_o a_o good_a conscience_n abstain_v presen_o from_o private_a baptism_n and_o private_a communion_n be_v require_v thereunto_o by_o sick_a person_n and_o those_o parent_n who_o child_n can_v be_v carry_v to_o the_o church_n commodiouslie_o with_o their_o life_n see_v we_o think_v it_o a_o thing_n very_o unlawful_a in_o such_o case_n to_o refuse_v to_o administrate_n those_o sacrament_n in_o private_a house_n noâ—_n that_o we_o think_v that_o god_n have_v tie_v himself_o or_o his_o grace_n to_o the_o sacrament_n but_o because_o he_o have_v tie_v we_o unto_o they_o by_o his_o precept_n and_o not_o to_o use_v the_o mean_n appoint_v by_o god_n when_o our_o people_n or_o their_o child_n stand_v in_o need_n of_o they_o be_v a_o contempt_n of_o the_o mean_n and_o a_o tempt_a of_o god._n the_o five_o demand_n whether_o or_o no_o we_o can_v sincere_o and_o with_o a_o good_a conscience_n subscrive_v the_o negative_a confession_n as_o it_o be_v expound_v and_o interpret_v by_o the_o contryver_n or_o author_n of_o the_o late_a covenant_n see_v it_o make_v a_o perpetual_a law_n concern_v the_o external_a rite_n of_o the_o church_n which_o god_n have_v not_o make_v as_o if_o these_o rite_n be_v unchangeable_a and_o how_o they_o who_o both_o swear_v the_o positive_a confession_n and_o the_o negative_a thus_o interpret_v can_v eschew_v contradiction_n see_v the_o positive_a confession_n chap._n 21._o evident_o declare_v that_o these_o rite_n be_v changeable_a according_a to_o the_o exigencie_n of_o time_n and_o consequent_o that_o no_o perpetual_a law_n may_v or_o aught_o to_o be_v make_v concern_v they_o likewise_o we_o will_v know_v how_o it_o can_v stand_v with_o truth_n to_o abjure_v all_o these_o rite_n as_o popish_a which_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n without_o divyne_fw-mi institution_n express_v in_o god_n word_n see_v even_o these_o who_o urge_v the_o covenant_n practise_v some_o ceremony_n which_o be_v not_o mention_v in_o god_n word_n as_o the_o celebration_n of_o marriage_n before_o the_o church_n in_o the_o beginning_n or_o at_o the_o end_n of_o divyne_fw-mi service_n with_o all_o the_o particular_n of_o it_o and_o the_o stipulation_n of_o father_n and_o godfather_n for_o the_o child_n in_o baptism_n which_o be_v not_o mere_a circumstance_n as_o they_o use_v to_o distinguish_v but_o also_o ceremony_n proper_o so_o call_v answer_n the_o late_a covenant_n make_v not_o a_o perpetual_a law_n concern_v the_o external_a rite_n of_o the_o church_fw-mi as_o if_o they_o be_v unchangeable_a but_o as_o we_o have_v say_v before_o only_o bind_v we_o for_o a_o time_n to_o forbear_v the_o practice_n of_o innovation_n already_o introduce_v and_o do_v not_o determine_v whether_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v change_v or_o not_o 2._o according_a to_o this_o true_a interpretation_n all_o appearance_n of_o contradiction_n betwixt_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n insert_v in_o the_o act_n of_o parliament_n and_o the_o latter_a confession_n be_v remove_v beside_o that_o the_o article_n 21_o of_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n give_v power_n to_o the_o church_fw-mi in_o matter_n of_o external_a policy_n and_o order_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n be_v expound_v in_o the_o first_o book_n of_o discipline_n distinguish_v between_o thing_n necessary_a to_o be_v observe_v in_o every_o church_fw-mi and_o thing_n variable_a in_o particular_a congregation_n 3._o we_o declare_v again_o that_o the_o covenant_n do_v not_o abjure_v pearth_n article_n as_o popish_a and_o think_v not_o time_n now_o to_o dispute_v of_o significant_a ceremony_n or_o other_o holy_a rite_n and_o whether_o the_o two_o particular_n name_v be_v ceremony_n or_o not_o since_o the_o confession_n condescend_v upon_o on_o both_o side_n abjure_v rite_n which_o be_v add_v without_o the_o word_n of_o god._n replye_n first_o we_o have_v already_o tell_v you_o that_o we_o can_v not_o subscrive_v your_o oath_n of_o forbearance_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o article_n already_o introduce_v without_o violation_n of_o authority_n and_o of_o wrong_v our_o own_o conscience_n who_o think_v private_a baptism_n and_o communion_n not_o to_o be_v indifferent_a but_o also_o necessary_a in_o some_o case_n not_o indeed_o necessitate_v medii_fw-la as_o if_o god_n grace_n be_v tie_v to_o the_o external_a mean_n but_o as_o we_o say_v in_o the_o school_n necessitate_v praecepti_fw-la because_o we_o be_v command_v to_o use_v these_o mean_n 2._o this_o late_a covenant_n lead_v and_o bind_v we_o to_o the_o old_a covenant_n make_v 1581._o and_o that_o old_a covenant_n bind_v we_o perpetual_o to_o that_o discipline_n which_o be_v then_o that_o be_v as_o you_o allege_v to_o the_o whole_a policy_n of_o the_o church_n comprehend_v all_o the_o external_a rite_n of_o it_o and_o so_o à _fw-la primo_fw-la ad_fw-la ultimum_fw-la this_o late_a covenant_n bind_v we_o to_o the_o whole_a policy_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v then_o and_o consequent_o make_v a_o perpetual_a law_n concern_v external_a rite_n of_o the_o church_n as_o if_o they_o be_v unchangeable_a all_o part_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v sure_a for_o by_o your_o late_a covenant_n you_o profess_v yourselves_o bind_v to_o keep_v the_o foresay_a national_n oath_n as_o you_o call_v it_o inviolable_a and_o that_o oath_n or_o covenant_n bind_v we_o to_o continue_v in_o the_o obedience_n not_o only_o of_o the_o doctrine_n but_o also_o of_o the_o discipline_n of_o this_o church_fw-mi where_o by_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_fw-mi you_o understand_v as_o you_o have_v in_o all_o your_o write_n profess_v especialie_a of_o late_a in_o your_o book_n entitle_v a_o dispute_n against_o the_o english_a popish_a ceremony_n part._n 4._o cap._n 8._o sect._n 6._o the_o whole_a external_a policy_n of_o the_o church_n as_o it_o be_v at_o that_o time_n to_o wit_n anno_fw-la 1581._o yea_o you_o confess_v that_o no_o other_o thing_n can_v be_v understand_v by_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_fw-mi but_o that_o which_o we_o have_v say_v already_o and_o consequent_o we_o shall_v be_v tie_v by_o that_o oath_n which_o you_o require_v of_o we_o to_o admit_v and_o practice_v no_o other_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n but_o such_o as_o be_v then_o receive_v in_o our_o church_n we_o can_v no_o way_n pass_v by_o this_o see_v ever_o since_o the_o assembly_n of_o pearth_n in_o your_o public_a sermon_n and_o print_v book_n you_o have_v most_o vehement_o accuse_v we_o of_o perjury_n as_o violate_v the_o oath_n or_o covenant_n make_v anno_fw-la 1581._o and_o that_o in_o respect_n we_o have_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n some_o rite_n or_o ceremony_n which_o be_v not_o in_o it_o the_o foresay_a year_n of_o god._n be_v not_o this_o to_o make_v a_o perpetual_a law_n concern_v the_o external_a rite_n of_o the_o church_n as_o if_o they_o be_v unchangeable_a and_o to_o abjure_v the_o practice_n of_o all_o rite_n introduce_v in_o the_o church_n since_o that_o time_n and_o consequent_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o article_n of_o pearth_n and_o that_o not_o for_o a_o time_n only_o but_o for_o ever_o 3._o see_v the_o negative_a confession_n according_a to_o your_o mind_n and_o conception_n of_o it_o make_v the_o whole_a external_a policy_n of_o the_o church_n as_o it_o be_v anno_fw-la 1581._o to_o be_v unchangeable_a and_o on_o the_o contrary_a the_o confession_n insert_v into_o the_o act_n of_o parliament_n declare_v that_o the_o rite_n belong_v to_o the_o external_a policy_n of_o the_o church_n be_v changeable_a how_o can_v you_o escape_v a_o contradiction_n if_o you_o receive_v both_o these_o confession_n 4._o whereas_o by_o that_o distinction_n mention_v in_o your_o answer_n of_o thing_n necessary_a to_o be_v observe_v and_o of_o thing_n variable_a in_o particular_a congregation_n you_o insinuate_v that_o by_o the_o keep_v of_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_fw-mi as_o it_o be_v then_o to_o which_o we_o be_v bind_v in_o the_o old_a covenant_n you_o understand_v the_o observation_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v observe_v in_o every_o church_fw-mi and_o not_o
practice_v of_o indifferent_a thing_n but_o know_v these_o thing_n in_o themselves_o to_o be_v approvable_a we_o do_v swear_v obedience_n to_o the_o public_a law_n requyre_v our_o practice_n in_o these_o thing_n so_o long_o as_o the_o law_n stand_v in_o vigour_n and_o our_o obedience_n thereto_o be_v require_v by_o our_o lawful_a superioure_n 4._o this_o course_n we_o hold_v to_o be_v more_o agreeable_a to_o our_o duty_n then_o upon_o private_a conception_n of_o scandal_n unnecessary_o take_v to_o break_v off_o our_o due_a obedience_n to_o that_o authority_n which_o god_n have_v set_v over_o we_o 6._o out_o of_o our_o assertion_n reply_n 4._o concern_v the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o private_a place_n to_o sick_a person_n in_o case_n of_o necessity_n you_o do_v collect_v that_o we_o can_v forbear_v the_o practice_n of_o these_o although_o our_o ordinary_n and_o other_o lawful_a superior_n shall_v will_v we_o to_o do_v so_o and_o hence_o you_o infer_v that_o herein_o pearth_n assembly_n for_o which_o we_o stand_v be_v wrong_v by_o we_o two_o way_n 1._o that_o we_o differ_v in_o judgement_n from_o they_o about_o the_o indifferency_n of_o the_o five_o article_n and_o next_o that_o at_o the_o will_n of_o our_o ordinary_a and_o you_o know_v not_o what_o other_o lawful_a superioure_n we_o be_v ready_a to_o forbear_v the_o practice_n of_o these_o thing_n which_o the_o assembly_n have_v appoint_v to_o be_v observe_v 7._o as_o for_o your_o main_a question_n whether_o a_o duty_n necessary_a by_o divyne_fw-mi law_n may_v be_v or_o may_v not_o be_v omit_v in_o case_n our_o ordinary_a &_o other_o lawful_a superioure_n shall_v will_v we_o to_o omit_v it_o before_o we_o answer_v to_o it_o we_o must_v expound_v what_o we_o mean_v by_o our_o other_o lawful_a superior_n because_o of_o your_o jest_a pretence_n of_o ignorance_n hereof_o we_o mean_v hereby_o the_o king_n majesty_n the_o parliament_n the_o secret_a counsel_n and_o other_o magistrate_n and_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n whereunto_o we_o owe_v obedience_n in_o our_o practice_n require_v by_o they_o according_a to_o public_a law_n 8._o the_o question_n itself_o you_o do_v express_v more_o clear_o in_o your_o answer_n to_o our_o 4._o reply_v where_o you_o allege_v that_o we_o find_v some_o of_o the_o pearth_n article_n so_o necessary_a that_o although_o the_o general_a assembly_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v discharge_v they_o yet_o we_o behove_v still_o for_o conscience_n of_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n to_o practice_v they_o thus_o be_v we_o bring_v to_o this_o general_a question_n whether_o or_o no_o any_o thing_n necessary_a or_o command_v by_o divine_a law_n may_v in_o any_o case_n without_o sin_n be_v omit_v when_o public_a humane_a authority_n discharge_v the_o practice_n thereof_o for_o resolve_v of_o this_o question_n we_o desire_v the_o reader_n to_o take_v notice_n of_o these_o theological_a maxim_n receive_v in_o the_o school_n &_o ground_v upon_o holy_a scripture_n 9_o affirmative_a precept_n do_v bind_v at_o all_o time_n but_o not_o to_o all_o time_n but_o only_o as_o place_n and_o time_n require_v that_o be_v when_o opportunity_n occur_v praecepta_fw-la affirmativa_fw-la obligant_fw-la semper_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la ad_fw-la semper_fw-la nisi_fw-la pro_fw-la loco_fw-la &_o tempore_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la quando_fw-la opportunitas_fw-la occurrit_fw-la but_o negative_a precept_n do_v bind_v at_o all_o time_n and_o to_o all_o time_n praecepta_fw-la negativa_fw-la obligant_fw-la semper_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la semper_fw-la 4._o as_o for_o example_n a_o man_n be_v not_o obliedge_v to_o speak_v the_o truth_n at_o all_o time_n for_o he_o may_v be_v some_o time_n lawful_o silent_a but_o he_o may_v never_o lawful_o lie_v 10_o of_o affirmative_a necessary_a duty_n some_o be_v the_o weighty_a matter_n of_o the_o law_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o judgement_n mercy_n and_o faith_n matth._n 23._o 23._o other_o less_o weighty_a such_o as_o be_v those_o of_o the_o pearth_n article_n which_o we_o call_v necessary_a and_o you_o do_v reject_v 11._o the_o exercise_n of_o some_o affirmative_a necessary_a duty_n may_v be_v some_o time_n omit_v by_o authority_n without_o sin_n for_o the_o public_a peace_n or_o some_o press_a necessity_n thus_o moses_n permit_v repudiation_n of_o a_o man_n marry_a wife_n not_o fall_v into_o adultery_n neither_o do_v he_o urge_v strict_o the_o affirmative_a duty_n of_o adherence_n and_o that_o for_o the_o hardness_n of_o their_o heart_n wherein_o moses_n have_v respect_n to_o the_o peace_n and_o unity_n of_o the_o tribs_n of_o israel_n as_o alexander_n alensis_n observe_v in_o his_o sum_n of_o theology_n part._n 3._o qu._n 46._o membro_fw-la 1._o art_n 1._o &_o art_n 2._o david_n do_v not_o execute_v in_o his_o own_o time_n judgement_n against_o joab_n for_o his_o murder_n of_o abner_n and_o amasa_n because_o the_o son_n of_o zeruiah_n be_v too_o hard_o for_o he_o circumcision_n be_v omit_v because_o of_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o their_o abode_n in_o one_o place_n when_o the_o people_n be_v with_o moses_n in_o the_o wilderness_n 12._o exercise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n against_o open_a obstinate_a offender_n be_v a_o affirmative_a duty_n incumbent_a by_o divyne_fw-mi law_n upon_o the_o pastor_n towards_o those_o who_o be_v commit_v to_o their_o charge_n yet_o it_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v forbear_v when_o it_o can_v not_o be_v use_v without_o a_o open_a rupture_n and_o unavoidable_a schism_n because_o in_o such_o a_o case_n the_o public_a peace_n be_v rather_o to_o be_v look_v to_o lest_o in_o our_o inconsiderate_a zeal_n to_o possunt_fw-la separate_v the_o tare_n we_o pluck_v up_o also_o the_o wheat_n and_o what_o we_o can_v not_o get_v correct_v by_o censure_n we_o can_v do_v no_o more_o but_o mourn_v for_o it_o and_o patient_o wait_v till_o god_n amend_v it_o as_o augustin_n prove_v at_o length_n lib._n 3._o contra_fw-la epistolam_fw-la parmeniani_n cap._n 1._o &_o cap._n 2._o &_o lib._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o operibus_fw-la cap._n 5._o for_o in_o this_o time_n say_v gregory_n the_o holy_a church_n do_v correct_v something_o by_o fervour_n something_o she_o tolerate_v by_o mecknes_n some_o thing_n by_o consideration_n she_o dissemble_v &_o bear_v so_o that_o often_o by_o bear_v &_o dissemble_v she_o compesce_v or_o put_v away_o that_o evil_a which_o she_o hate_v and_o prosp._n sai_z for_o this_o cause_n therefore_o they_o most_o with_o gentle_a piety_n be_v bear_v with_o who_o for_o their_o infirmity_n may_v not_o be_v rebuke_v 13._o when_o a_o doctrinal_a error_n not_o be_v fundamental_a prevail_v by_o public_a authority_n in_o any_o church_n a_o private_a pastor_n or_o doctor_n espy_v it_o may_v lawful_o and_o laudable_o sorbear_v public_a strive_v against_o it_o when_o he_o evident_o perceive_v that_o unavoidable_a schism_n will_v follow_v thereupon_o in_o such_o a_o case_n he_o shall_v content_v himself_o to_o seed_v his_o hearer_n with_o that_o wholesome_a milk_n of_o the_o word_n which_o they_o may_v receive_v and_o delay_v the_o give_v of_o strong_a food_n unto_o they_o because_o of_o 1630._o their_o infirmity_n consider_v that_o more_o necessary_a and_o weighty_a duty_n which_o he_o owe_v for_o preservation_n of_o order_n and_o peace_n and_o labour_v in_o a_o mild_a and_o peaceable_a manner_n to_o cure_v they_o to_o this_o purpose_n belong_v that_o say_n of_o gregory_n nazianzen_n let_v no_o man_n therefore_o be_v more_o wise_a than_o be_v convenient_a neither_o more_o legal_a than_o the_o law_n neither_o more_o bright_a than_o the_o light_n neither_o more_o straight_o than_o the_o rule_n neither_o high_a than_o the_o commandment_n but_o how_o shall_v this_o be_v if_o we_o take_v knowledge_n of_o decency_n and_o commend_v the_o law_n of_o nature_n and_o follow_v reason_n and_o despise_v not_o good_a order_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d animum_fw-la and_o that_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o lion_n in_o france_n near_o eight_o hundred_o year_n ago_o who_o do_v not_o calmlie_o and_o peaceable_o moderate_a that_o which_o he_o think_v but_o be_v ready_a incontinent_a to_o contention_n dissension_n and_o scandal_n although_o he_o have_v not_o a_o heretical_a sense_n most_o certain_o he_o have_v a_o heretical_a mind_n 14._o divine_a institution_n by_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o apostle_n crave_v deacon_n ordain_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o all_o their_o life_n time_n act_v 6._o yet_o in_o our_o reform_a church_n of_o scotland_n we_o have_v no_o such_o deacon_n which_o oecomenicall_a defect_n necessitate_v by_o detention_n of_o church_n mantenance_n necessary_a for_o their_o sustentation_n we_o hope_v shall_v not_o be_v impute_v to_o our_o church_n as_o sin_n so_o long_o as_o she_o despise_v not_o that_o institution_n and_o acknowledge_v and_o lament_v this_o deficiency_n and_o endeavour_v by_o peaceable_a lawful_a mean_n to_o have_v it_o remedy_v 15._o although_o some_o affirmative_a duty_n necessary_a by_o divine_a precept_n do_v
in_o brotherly_a love_n exhort_v and_o entreat_v we_o to_o contribute_v our_o best_a endeavour_n for_o extinguish_v the_o common_a combustion_n we_o praise_v god_n for_o your_o pious_a zeal_n and_o for_o the_o lovingnesse_n and_o modesty_n of_o your_o speech_n wherein_o by_o god_n help_n we_o shall_v labour_v to_o keep_v correspondence_n with_o you_o that_o both_o we_o and_o you_o may_v show_v â—â—â—_o self_n to_o have_v learn_v of_o christ_n meekness_n and_o lowliness_n of_o heart_n we_o most_o willing_o promise_v to_o do_v so_o by_o all_o mean_n which_o our_o conscience_n will_v permit_v we_o to_o use_v as_o also_o to_o join_v our_o most_o humble_a and_o hearty_a prayer_n with_o you_o that_o it_o may_v please_v god_n in_o this_o dangerous_a exigent_n to_o do_v good_a in_o his_o good_a pleasure_n to_o our_o zion_n and_o to_o build_v up_o the_o wall_n of_o our_o jerusalem_n †_o 4._o we_o may_v just_o say_v that_o this_o new_a covenant_n be_v substantial_o different_a from_o the_o old_a which_o be_v make_v anno_fw-la 1581._o in_o respect_n it_o not_o only_o contain_v that_o old_a covenant_n or_o confession_n which_o be_v allow_v by_o two_o general_n assembly_n but_o also_o your_o interpretation_n of_o it_o which_o as_o yet_o have_v no_o such_o authority_n or_o approbation_n †_o 5._o no_o band_n of_o mutual_a defence_n against_o all_o person_n whatsoev_a be_v express_v in_o the_o covenant_n make_v 1581._o and_o although_o it_o be_v yet_o the_o case_n be_v very_o unlike_a for_o subject_n may_v make_v such_o a_o covenant_n of_o mutual_a defence_n by_o arm_n with_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o king_n who_o only_o under_o god_n have_v the_o power_n of_o arm_n or_o of_o the_o sword_n in_o this_o kingdom_n but_o they_o who_o make_v this_o late_a covenant_n have_v not_o his_o consent_n as_o that_o former_a or_o old_a covenant_n have_v which_o be_v a_o thing_n so_o evident_a that_o no_o man_n can_v call_v it_o in_o question_n †_o 6._o as_o for_o that_o which_o you_o affirm_v here_o that_o my_o lord_n commissioner_n his_o grace_n be_v well_o satisfy_v with_o your_o declaration_n it_o become_v not_o we_o to_o pry_v narrow_o into_o his_o grace_n do_n but_o true_o we_o have_v more_o than_o reason_n to_o pry_v most_o narrow_o into_o the_o word_n of_o a_o covenant_n which_o be_v offer_v unto_o we_o to_o be_v swear_v and_o subscrybed_n lest_o we_o abuse_v and_o profane_v the_o sacred_a name_n of_o god_n and_o tie_v ourselves_o to_o the_o do_v of_o any_o thing_n which_o be_v displease_v unto_o he_o last_o of_o all_o whereas_o you_o desire_v we_o to_o join_v ourselves_o to_o you_o and_o to_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o confederacy_n who_o be_v as_o you_o affirm_v almost_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o kingdom_n true_o we_o can_v but_o reverence_v such_o a_o multitude_n of_o our_o reverend_a brethren_n and_o dear_a countryman_n and_o be_v ready_a to_o be_v follower_n of_o they_o in_o so_o far_o as_o they_o be_v follower_n of_o christ_n but_o neither_o can_v we_o do_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o truth_n neither_o can_v we_o attribute_v so_o much_o authority_n to_o their_o multitude_n as_o otherwise_o we_o will_v in_o respect_n there_o have_v be_v so_o much_o deal_n for_o subscription_n in_o all_o quarter_n of_o this_o kingdom_n and_o so_o many_o have_v be_v threaten_v to_o give_v their_o consent_n as_o we_o be_v most_o credible_o inform_v the_o second_o demand_n whether_o or_o no_o we_o ought_v to_o subscryve_v the_o foresay_a covenant_n see_v all_o covenant_n of_o mutual_a defence_n by_o force_n of_o arm_n make_v among_o subject_n of_o any_o degree_n upon_o whatsoever_o colour_n or_o pretence_n without_o the_o king_n majesty_n or_o his_o successoures_n privity_n and_o consent_n be_v express_o forbid_v by_o king_n james_n of_o bless_a memory_n and_o the_o three_o estate_n of_o this_o kingdom_n in_o the_o parliament_n hold_v at_o linlithgow_n anno_fw-la 1585._o answer_n the_o act_n of_o parliament_n forbid_v in_o the_o first_o part_n league_n and_o band_n of_o maintenance_n privily_o make_v such_o as_o be_v call_v band_n of_o manrent_a as_o the_o act_n in_o queen_n mary_n time_n to_o which_o it_o have_v relation_n do_v bear_v and_o in_o the_o second_o part_n only_o such_o as_o tend_v to_o the_o public_a disturbance_n of_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o realm_n by_o move_a sedition_n but_o no_o act_n of_o parliament_n do_v discharge_v nor_o can_v any_o just_a law_n forbid_v convention_n or_o covenant_n in_o the_o general_a or_o such_o covenant_n in_o special_a as_o be_v make_v with_o god_n and_o among_o ourselves_o not_o for_o any_o man_n particular_a but_o for_o the_o common_a benefit_n of_o all_o not_o to_o move_v sedition_n but_o to_o preserve_v peace_n and_o to_o prevent_v trouble_n which_o by_o all_o probability_n have_v be_v to_o many_o before_o this_o time_n too_o sensible_a if_o this_o course_n have_v not_o be_v take_v convention_n and_o covenant_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o jurisconsult_v be_v to_o be_v esteem_v and_o judge_v of_o according_a to_o their_o diverse_a end_n good_a or_o bad_a which_o make_v king_n james_n of_o happy_a memory_n to_o take_v it_o for_o a_o undoubted_a maxim_n that_o pro_fw-la aris_fw-la &_o focis_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la patre_fw-la patriae_fw-la the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n shall_v stir_v at_o once_o not_o any_o more_o as_o divide_a member_n but_o as_o one_o consolidate_a lump_n replye_n in_o that_o second_o part_n of_o that_o act_n of_o parliament_n hold_v at_o linlithgo_n anno_fw-la 1585._o be_v forbid_v all_o league_n or_o band_n of_o mutual_a defence_n which_o be_v make_v without_o the_o privity_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o king_n under_o the_o pain_n to_o be_v hold_v and_o execute_v as_o mover_n of_o sedition_n and_o unquietness_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o we_o can_v no_o way_n think_v that_o any_o band_n or_o league_n of_o mutual_a defence_n by_o force_n of_o arm_n be_v there_o permit_v that_o be_v not_o forbid_v see_v first_o the_o word_n of_o the_o act_n be_v so_o general_a for_o in_o it_o be_v discharge_v all_o band_n make_v among_o subject_n of_o any_o degree_n upon_o any_o colour_n what_o soever_o without_o his_o highness_n or_o his_o successor_n privity_n and_o consent_n have_v and_o obtain_v thereunto_o next_o all_o such_o band_n be_v declare_v to_o be_v seditious_a and_o perturbative_a of_o the_o public_a peace_n of_o the_o realm_n or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o be_v appoint_v to_o be_v esteem_v so_o and_o therefore_o we_o can_v not_o see_v how_o any_o band_n of_o that_o kind_n can_v be_v except_v as_o if_o they_o be_v not_o seditious_a 2._o we_o doubt_v not_o but_o the_o late_a covenant_n be_v consider_v according_a to_o the_o main_a intention_n of_o those_o pious_a and_o generous_a gentleman_n baron_n and_o other_o our_o dear_a country_n man_n who_o make_v it_o especial_o our_o reverend_a brethren_n of_o the_o holy_a ministry_n be_v a_o covenant_n make_v with_o god_n and_o proceed_v from_o a_o zealous_a respect_n to_o god_n his_o glory_n and_o to_o the_o preservation_n of_o the_o purity_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o this_o church_n and_o kingdom_n but_o we_o can_v find_v a_o warrant_n in_o our_o conscience_n to_o grant_v that_o such_o covenant_n in_o so_o far_o as_o they_o import_v mutual_a defence_n against_o all_o person_n whatsoev_a none_o be_v except_v no_o not_o the_o king_n as_o it_o seem_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o word_n of_o your_o covenant_n but_o far_o more_o by_o the_o word_n of_o your_o late_a protestation_n the_o 28_o of_o june_n wherein_o you_o promise_v mutual_a defence_n against_o all_o external_a or_o internal_a invasion_n menace_v in_o his_o majesty_n last_o proclamation_n be_v not_o forbid_v by_o any_o band_n nor_o just_o yet_o can_v be_v forbid_v for_o first_o we_o have_v already_o show_v that_o they_o be_v forbid_v in_o the_o foresay_a act_n of_o parliament_n anno_fw-la 1585._o 2._o no_o warrefare_n and_o consequent_o no_o covenant_n import_v warrefare_n be_v lawful_a without_o just_a authority_n which_o we_o be_v persuade_v be_v only_o in_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n and_o and_o in_o those_o who_o have_v power_n and_o employment_n from_o he_o to_o take_v arm_n yea_o so_o far_o as_o we_o know_v all_o moderate_a man_n who_o due_o respect_v authority_n will_v say_v that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o all_o kingdom_n and_o monarchy_n proper_o so_o call_v of_o which_o nature_n be_v this_o his_o majesty_n most_o ancient_a kingdom_n and_o that_o it_o be_v altogether_o unlawful_a to_o subject_n in_o such_o kingdom_n to_o take_v arm_n against_o their_o prince_n for_o which_o cause_n that_o famous_a and_o most_o learned_a doctor_n rivetus_n in_o a_o late_a treatise_n call_v jesuita_fw-la vapulans_fw-la speak_v of_o the_o judgement_n of_o buchannan_n and_o other_o who_o teach_v that_o subject_n may_v take_v arm_n against_o their_o prince_n in_o extraordinary_a
of_o the_o controvert_v word_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o therefore_o humble_o entreat_v that_o no_o man_n any_o more_o upon_o this_o scruple_n withhold_v his_o testimony_n reply_n as_o for_o the_o first_o of_o these_o two_o miss-taking_n if_o you_o have_v not_o give_v out_o that_o interpretation_n of_o the_o negative_a confession_n judicial_o but_o only_o have_v make_v know_v your_o own_o meaning_n according_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o reformer_n as_o you_o allege_v then_o first_o your_o interpretation_n have_v no_o obligatory_a power_n over_o other_o and_o consequent_o you_o ought_v not_o to_o obtrude_v your_o interpretation_n upon_o we_o more_o than_o we_o do_v our_o interpretation_n thereof_o upon_o you_o neither_o ought_v any_o man_n to_o be_v molest_v or_o threaten_v for_o not_o receive_v your_o interpretation_n chief_o see_v all_o who_o be_v of_o your_o confederation_n have_v so_o solemn_o vow_v and_o promise_v to_o be_v good_a example_n to_o other_o of_o all_o godliness_n soberness_n &_o righteousness_n and_o of_o every_o duty_n which_o you_o owe_v to_o god_n and_o man._n second_o as_o for_o the_o mind_n or_o judgement_n of_o our_o reformer_n we_o know_v no_o evidencie_n of_o it_o have_v public_a authority_n to_o obliedge_v the_o subject_n of_o this_o kingdom_n except_o that_o which_o be_v express_v in_o our_o national_n confession_n of_o faith_n ratify_v in_o parliament_n twenty_o year_n before_o the_o negative_a confession_n be_v pen_v wherein_o we_o find_v no_o warrant_n or_o ground_n of_o such_o interpretation_n as_o you_o bring_v three_o the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o negative_a confession_n set_v down_o in_o your_o covenant_n as_o it_o be_v not_o public_a ratione_fw-la personae_fw-la so_o also_o not_o ratione_fw-la medii_fw-la for_o it_o have_v no_o warrant_n for_o aught_o we_o can_v ever_o perceive_v either_o from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n or_o from_o the_o consent_n of_o other_o reform_a church_n or_o from_o our_o national_n confession_n registrate_v in_o parliament_n as_o for_o the_o second_o misstake_v oâ—_n misinterpretation_n of_o the_o word_n of_o the_o late_a covenant_n first_o we_o marvel_v that_o a_o general_n covenant_n appoint_v to_o be_v subscrive_v by_o all_o learned_a and_o unlearned_a shall_v have_v be_v set_v down_o by_o you_o in_o such_o ambiguous_a term_n for_o true_o all_o man_n here_o even_o the_o most_o judicious_a do_v so_o take_v your_o word_n as_o if_o the_o article_n of_o pearth_n be_v in_o they_o abjure_v 2._o we_o have_v again_o more_o attentive_o examine_v the_o word_n of_o the_o late_a covenant_n and_o do_v evident_o perceive_v by_o they_o that_o in_o the_o say_a covenant_n the_o article_n of_o pearth_n and_o episcopacy_n be_v condemn_v and_o abjure_v as_o erroneous_a and_o damnable_a corruption_n for_o where_o you_o profess_v and_o before_o god_n and_o his_o angel_n and_o the_o world_n solemn_o declare_v that_o you_o shall_v labour_v by_o all_o mean_v lawful_a to_o recover_v the_o liberty_n and_o purity_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o it_o be_v establish_v and_o profess_v before_o the_o foresay_a novation_n we_o ask_v you_o what_o be_v that_o period_n of_o time_n to_o which_o your_o word_n have_v reference_n when_o you_o promise_v to_o labour_v to_o recover_v the_o purity_n and_o liberty_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o it_o be_v profess_v &_o establish_v before_o the_o foresay_a novation_n if_o you_o mean_v that_o period_n of_o time_n when_o the_o service-booke_n and_o book_n of_o canon_n be_v urge_v upon_o you_o to_o wit_n the_o last_o year_n bypass_a in_o summer_n than_o you_o acknowledge_v that_o all_o that_o time_n you_o enjoin_v the_o purity_n and_o liberty_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o consequent_o that_o you_o yet_o enjoy_v it_o for_o no_o new_a thing_n have_v since_o that_o time_n be_v publicklie_o receive_v and_o practise_v in_o this_o church_n if_o you_o mean_v as_o undoubtedlie_o we_o think_v you_o do_v the_o time_n precede_v the_o bring_n in_o of_o episcopacy_n and_o the_o act_n of_o pearth_n than_o you_o comprehend_v both_o episcopacy_n and_o the_o act_n of_o pearth_n under_o these_o novation_n for_o the_o remove_n whereof_o you_o promise_v to_o labour_v according_a to_o your_o power_n and_o consequent_o do_v disallow_v and_o condemn_v they_o even_o before_o they_o be_v try_v in_o a_o free_a assembly_n and_o before_o they_o be_v hear_v who_o maintain_v &_o approve_v they_o as_o lawful_a 3._o we_o may_v evidentlie_o demonstrate_v this_o argumento_fw-la ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la as_o we_o say_v in_o the_o school_n for_o those_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n which_o be_v abjure_v in_o the_o negative_a confession_n be_v also_o abjure_v in_o your_o late_a covenant_n which_o as_o you_o say_v be_v all_o one_o with_o the_o negative_a confession_n or_o with_o the_o covenant_n make_v 1581._o but_o the_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n which_o be_v conclude_v in_o pearth_n assembly_n be_v abjure_v as_o you_o say_v in_o the_o covenant_n make_v 1581._o and_o therefore_o they_o be_v also_o abjure_v in_o this_o your_o late_a covenant_n the_o first_o proposition_n be_v evident_a for_o in_o your_o late_a covenant_n speak_v of_o the_o oath_n contain_v in_o that_o old_a covenant_n which_o be_v make_v anno_fw-la 1581._o you_o profess_v that_o the_o present_a and_o succeed_a generation_n in_o this_o land_n be_v bind_v to_o keep_v the_o foresay_a national_n oath_n as_o you_o call_v it_o and_o subscription_n unviolable_a the_o second_o proposition_n also_o can_v be_v deny_v by_o you_o for_o these_o twenty_o year_n bybast_a you_o have_v accuse_v those_o who_o conform_v themselves_o to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o pearth_n of_o perjury_n and_o that_o because_o they_o have_v violate_v the_o oath_n make_v anno_fw-la 1581._o in_o the_o which_o those_o article_n as_o you_o allege_v be_v abjure_v but_o perhaps_o you_o will_v say_v to_o we_o that_o we_o think_v those_o thing_n not_o to_o be_v abjure_v in_o that_o oath_n make_v anno_fw-la 1581._o and_o therefore_o we_o may_v swear_v and_o subscrive_v your_o late_a covenant_n and_o notwithstanding_a of_o our_o oath_n and_o subscription_n be_v tie_v only_o to_o the_o forbearance_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o pearth_n article_n for_o a_o time_n we_o answer_v first_o the_o word_n of_o a_o oath_n shall_v be_v clear_a and_o plain_a or_o if_o they_o be_v any_o way_n ambiguous_a the_o true_a sense_n of_o they_o shall_v be_v so_o declare_v and_o manifest_v that_o all_o may_v know_v it_o 2._o a_o oath_n be_v to_o be_v give_v according_a to_o the_o mind_n and_o judgement_n of_o he_o that_o require_v it_o and_o therefore_o see_v you_o who_o require_v this_o oath_n of_o we_o think_v the_o rite_n or_o ceremony_n conclude_v at_o pearth_n to_o be_v abjure_v in_o that_o oath_n make_v anno_fw-la 1581._o how_o can_v we_o swear_v and_o subâ—rive_v your_o covenant_n which_o renew_v the_o foresay_a oath_n and_o bind_v we_o to_o it_o 3._o if_o we_o shall_v swear_v and_o subscrive_v the_o negative_a confession_n as_o it_o be_v include_v in_o your_o covenant_n than_o you_o who_o think_v the_o article_n of_o pearth_n to_o be_v abjure_v and_o condemn_v in_o the_o negative_a confession_n will_v think_v we_o tie_v by_o our_o own_o personal_a oath_n to_o condemn_v the_o article_n of_o pearth_n 4._o see_v this_o covenant_n be_v pen_v by_o you_o who_o have_v hitherto_o not_o conform_v yourselves_o to_o pearth_n assembly_n and_o have_v oppose_v episcopacy_n and_o see_v you_o all_o condemn_v episcopacy_n as_o if_o it_o be_v that_o popish_a or_o wicked_a hierarchy_n mention_v in_o the_o negative_a confession_n as_o also_o esteem_v the_o thing_n conclude_v in_o pearth_n assembly_n to_o be_v idolatrous_a or_o superstitious_a how_o can_v we_o think_v that_o you_o in_o your_o solemn_a vow_n make_v to_o god_n for_o reformation_n of_o this_o church_n and_o resist_v in_o time_n to_o come_v the_o novation_n &_o corruption_n of_o it_o have_v pass_v by_o these_o thing_n which_o be_v the_o only_a novation_n already_o introduce_v by_o authority_n and_o from_o which_o as_o you_o affirm_v the_o church_n have_v so_o great_a need_n to_o be_v purge_v chief_o see_v you_o think_v they_o as_o popish_a superstitious_a &_o idolatrous_a as_o you_o do_v these_o other_o novation_n which_o be_v not_o as_o yet_o introduce_v 5._o if_o in_o all_o your_o supplication_n plaint_n and_o protestation_n you_o have_v only_o seek_v the_o remove_n and_o discharge_v of_o the_o service_n book_n book_n of_o canon_n and_o the_o new_a high_a commission_n not_o complain_v of_o any_o other_o novation_n and_o see_v his_o majesty_n have_v discharge_v the_o first_o two_o &_o have_v promise_v to_o rectify_v the_o three_o or_o last_o of_o they_o then_o what_o reason_n have_v you_o to_o think_v that_o his_o majesty_n have_v not_o satisfy_v your_o supplication_n for_o all_o the_o novation_n upon_o which_o you_o complain_v be_v remove_v by_o his_o majesty_n and_o
withhold_v his_o subscription_n from_o the_o covenant_n because_o it_o do_v not_o as_o it_o intend_v not_o to_o express_v everâ—â—_n duty_n we_o owe_v to_o the_o king_n majesty_n as_o if_o the_o not_o name_v be_v a_o deny_v of_o the_o duty_n reply_n what_o you_o have_v reply_v in_o your_o answer_n to_o our_o first_o demand_n we_o have_v examine_v in_o our_o confutation_n of_o your_o answer_n 2._o if_o you_o consider_v well_o all_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o make_n of_o your_o covenant_n you_o will_v find_v that_o it_o have_v not_o be_v amiss_o at_o this_o time_n to_o have_v express_v more_o full_o the_o loyalty_n of_o your_o intention_n to_o maintain_v the_o king_n person_n and_o honour_n next_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o express_v it_o yet_o more_o full_o for_o our_o cause_n who_o you_o require_v to_o swear_v &_o subscrive_v your_o covenant_n lest_o we_o do_v any_o thing_n in_o this_o matter_n with_o a_o doubt_a conscience_n which_o be_v a_o grievous_a sin_n that_o be_v doubt_v whither_o or_o no_o we_o be_v tie_v by_o our_o oath_n to_o maintain_v the_o king_n authority_n only_o in_o so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v employ_v in_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o foresay_a true_a religion_n or_o at_o least_o as_o it_o be_v not_o employ_v against_o it_o for_o it_o seem_v to_o we_o unlawful_a to_o swear_v the_o maintenance_n of_o the_o king_n authority_n with_o this_o limitation_n precise_o and_o if_o you_o be_v of_o a_o contrary_a mind_n we_o be_v most_o willing_a to_o confere_v with_o you_o of_o this_o point_n the_o nine_o demand_n whethere_o or_o no_o we_o can_v sincere_o swear_v to_o maintain_v the_o authority_n true_o and_o proper_o monarchical_a of_o the_o king_n and_o withal_o swear_v also_o disobedience_n to_o these_o article_n which_o be_v authorize_v by_o his_o stand_a law_n and_o to_o maintain_v the_o mean_a of_o his_o subject_n against_o he_o in_o their_o disobedience_n of_o his_o law_n as_o yet_o stand_v in_o vigour_n concern_v these_o thing_n answer_n 1._o the_o answer_n to_o the_o first_o demand_v be_v useful_a here_o also_o 2._o forbearance_n of_o practice_n for_o a_o time_n in_o such_o a_o case_n be_v rather_o obedience_n than_o disobedience_n for_o example_n kneel_v be_v think_v convenient_a because_o all_o memory_n of_o superstition_n be_v past_a shall_v it_o not_o therefore_o be_v forbear_v because_o superstition_n be_v now_o revive_v and_o flagrant_a they_o who_o practice_n keep_v the_o letter_n of_o the_o law_n but_o they_o who_o forbear_v keep_v the_o life_n and_o reason_n thereof_o replye_n your_o covenant_n require_v more_o of_o we_o than_o the_o forbearance_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o pearth_n article_n as_o we_o have_v often_o time_n declare_v 2._o we_o have_v also_o show_v that_o the_o forbearance_n of_o obedience_n to_o stand_v law_n without_o licience_n of_o superior_n and_o contrary_a to_o their_o commandment_n especial_o if_o it_o be_v do_v by_o deliberation_n and_o if_o man_n tie_v themselves_o by_o a_o oath_n to_o do_v so_o be_v manifest_a disobedience_n 3._o the_o article_n of_o pearth_n anent_o kneel_v be_v not_o ground_v only_o nor_o yet_o principal_o upon_o that_o narrative_a which_o you_o mention_v but_o rather_o upon_o the_o conveniency_n and_o decency_n of_o the_o gesture_n of_o kneel_v in_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n which_o reason_n do_v yet_o continue_v as_o also_o the_o other_o reason_n which_o you_o mention_v hold_v yet_o for_o the_o body_n of_o the_o people_n of_o this_o church_n be_v never_o papist_n and_o consequent_o have_v no_o memory_n of_o popish_a superstition_n as_o those_o who_o live_v in_o time_n of_o reformation_n 4._o we_o can_v not_o see_v nor_o conceive_v how_o a_o vow_n and_o band_n of_o maintain_v the_o mean_a subject_n of_o this_o kingdom_n against_o all_o person_n whatsoever_o and_o consequent_o against_o the_o king_n himself_o as_o we_o have_v show_v in_o our_o second_o reply_n in_o disobedience_n of_o his_o law_n can_v consist_v with_o that_o love_n reverence_n and_o subjection_n which_o we_o owe_v to_o our_o king_n neither_o have_v you_o bring_v any_o thing_n in_o your_o answer_n to_o satisfy_v we_o in_o this_o point_n and_o because_o you_o allege_v as_o we_o hear_v that_o you_o be_v mistake_v in_o this_o point_n and_o do_v vindicate_v yourselves_o by_o those_o word_n of_o the_o covenant_n wherein_o you_o promise_v to_o maintain_v the_o king_n authority_n we_o pray_v you_o to_o express_v your_o mind_n more_o full_o concern_v it_o and_o to_o show_v we_o 1._o what_o you_o mean_v by_o mantain_v the_o king_n authority_n in_o that_o part_n of_o your_o covenant_n wherein_o you_o express_v your_o loyal_a intention_n to_o maintain_v the_o king_n person_n and_o authority_n and_o in_o special_a whether_o or_o no_o the_o maintain_n of_o the_o king_n authority_n be_v take_v by_o you_o as_o it_o exclude_v all_o resist_n of_o his_o authority_n by_o force_n of_o arm_n even_o although_o he_o shall_v command_v thing_n unlawful_a and_o contrary_a to_o the_o truth_n for_o so_o we_o think_v it_o shall_v be_v take_v and_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v so_o take_v we_o be_v ready_a to_o demonstrate_v neither_o can_v we_o swear_v it_o in_o any_o other_o sense_n 2._o whether_o your_o promise_n of_o mutual_a defence_n in_o the_o same_o cause_n of_o maintain_v the_o true_a religion_n and_o his_o majesty_n authority_n etc._n etc._n aught_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o maintain_v the_o king_n authority_n absolute_o that_o be_v whether_o he_o maintain_v the_o true_a religion_n or_o no_o or_o on_o the_o contrary_a if_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o maintain_v the_o king_n authority_n conditional_o in_o so_o far_o as_o he_o maintain_v the_o true_a religion_n and_o not_o any_o other_o way_n if_o you_o say_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v the_o first_o way_n we_o assent_n to_o that_o part_n of_o your_o covenant_n and_o have_v no_o more_o scruple_n anent_o it_o except_o that_o one_o which_o we_o mention_v in_o our_o reply_n to_o your_o second_o answer_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o word_n of_o your_o protestation_n seem_v to_o import_v more_o and_o that_o your_o paction_n or_o covenant_n be_v make_v without_o the_o king_n privity_n and_o consent_n if_o you_o say_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v the_o second_o way_n than_o we_o continue_v urge_v our_o foresay_a demand_n to_o wit_n how_o a_o man_n can_v maintain_v the_o king_n authority_n and_o withal_o maintain_v the_o mean_a of_o his_o subject_n in_o resist_v his_o authority_n and_o how_o we_o can_v be_v say_v to_o stand_v for_o the_o king_n honour_n when_o we_o vow_v and_o promise_n to_o do_v that_o which_o he_o himself_o profess_v to_o be_v against_o his_o honour_n and_o which_o in_o the_o common_a judgement_n of_o man_n be_v think_v to_o be_v so_o the_o determination_n of_o this_o point_n be_v more_o than_o necessary_a at_o this_o time_n and_o therefore_o let_v we_o in_o sincerity_n and_o brotherly_a love_n confer_v of_o it_o that_o the_o conscience_n of_o other_o who_o doubt_v of_o this_o may_v receive_v satisfaction_n the_o ten_o demand_n whether_o or_o no_o we_o ought_v to_o swear_v to_o such_o a_o covenant_n which_o take_v away_o from_o we_o all_o hope_n of_o a_o free_a assembly_n or_o parliament_n to_o judge_v of_o the_o mattere_n present_o debate_v for_o how_o can_v these_o vote_n free_o of_o any_o matter_n propound_v to_o the_o decision_n and_o deliberation_n of_o the_o church_n and_o estate_n who_o have_v already_o swear_v to_o adheere_v to_o one_o part_n of_o the_o question_n and_o how_o can_v those_o who_o dissent_v from_o they_o submit_v themselves_o to_o their_o judgement_n chief_o see_v they_o be_v possessoures_n and_o have_v law_n civil_a and_o ecclesiastic_a stand_v as_o yet_o for_o they_o answer_n we_o perceive_v that_o this_o ten_o demand_n be_v make_v of_o the_o article_n of_o pearth_n therefore_o we_o answer_v as_o before_o that_o we_o promise_v only_a forbearance_n which_o can_v prejudge_v no_o man_n liberty_n in_o a_o general_n assembly_n replye_n we_o have_v show_v that_o your_o covenant_n and_o oath_n import_v a_o manifest_a abjuration_n of_o the_o article_n of_o pearth_n and_o therefore_o the_o swear_n of_o it_o do_v manifest_o prejudge_v the_o liberty_n of_o vote_v in_o a_o national_n assembly_n for_o how_o can_v they_o free_o either_o reason_n in_o a_o assembly_n concern_v episcopacy_n and_o the_o article_n of_o pearth_n or_o else_o give_v their_o judgement_n without_o prejudice_n concern_v they_o who_o have_v already_o promise_v swear_v and_o vow_v first_o to_o adheere_v to_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_fw-mi that_o be_v according_a to_o your_o interpretation_n to_o the_o whole_a external_a policy_n of_o the_o church_n as_o it_o be_v 1581._o 2._o to_o labour_v by_o all_o mean_v lawful_a to_o remove_v and_o expel_v all_o those_o rite_n and_o
ordinance_n which_o have_v come_v into_o the_o church_n since_o the_o foresay_a year_n of_o god_n that_o the_o church_n may_v be_v restore_v to_o the_o liberty_n and_o purity_n which_o it_o then_o have_v whereby_o you_o declare_v that_o the_o foresay_a article_n and_o episcopacy_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o liberty_n and_o purity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o consequent_o you_o be_v tie_v by_o your_o oath_n to_o vote_n against_o they_o if_o you_o be_v call_v to_o the_o intend_a assembly_n the_o eleven_o demand_n whether_o our_o subscrive_v together_o with_o our_o people_n to_o the_o confession_n of_o this_o nation_n which_o be_v ratify_v and_o registrate_v in_o parliament_n ann._n 1567._o may_v give_v full_a satisfaction_n to_o all_o who_o doubt_n of_o the_o sincerity_n of_o our_o profession_n if_o so_o be_v they_o have_v no_o far_o aim_v but_o only_o to_o know_v and_o see_v our_o willingness_n and_o constant_a resolution_n to_o adheere_v to_o the_o religion_n present_o profess_v and_o to_o oppose_v all_o error_n contrary_a to_o it_o to_o our_o life_n end_v now_o see_v we_o be_v willing_a to_o do_v this_o as_o we_o take_v god_n to_o witness_v we_o be_v how_o be_v we_o hate_v malign_v and_o traduce_v as_o enemy_n of_o the_o truth_n only_o because_o our_o conscience_n do_v not_o suffer_v we_o to_o subscrive_v to_o that_o interpretation_n of_o the_o negative_a confession_n insert_v in_o the_o covenant_n concern_v which_o we_o can_v see_v no_o warrant_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o it_o nor_o lawful_a authority_n bind_v we_o to_o it_o and_o to_o the_o politic_a or_o rather_o military_a part_n of_o that_o covenant_n which_o be_v a_o thing_n without_o the_o compass_n of_o our_o call_v and_o not_o belong_v to_o that_o contend_v for_o the_o faith_n once_o deliver_v to_o the_o saint_n of_o which_o s._n jude_n speak_v in_o his_o epistle_n answer_n since_o no_o other_o mean_a can_v be_v find_v so_o effectual_a for_o hold_v out_o of_o popery_n and_o forbear_v of_o dangerous_a novation_n in_o religion_n such_o as_o the_o service_n book_n and_o canon_n which_o as_o yet_o be_v only_o discharge_v till_o in_o a_o fair_a and_o legal_a way_n they_o may_v be_v introduce_v and_o be_v by_o no_o word_n of_o the_o late_a proclamation_n disallow_v although_o the_o service_n book_n by_o the_o proclamation_n february_n 19_o be_v high_o praise_v as_o serve_v to_o edification_n and_o to_o beat_v out_o all_o superstition_n and_o nothing_o in_o this_o application_n be_v abjure_v but_o what_o be_v abjure_v in_o the_o former_a why_o shall_v we_o forbear_v to_o use_v a_o mean_a so_o just_a and_o so_o powerful_a for_o the_o preservation_n of_o the_o purity_n of_o religion_n replye_n here_o you_o do_v not_o particular_o answer_v to_o our_o demand_n and_o seem_v unwilling_a to_o give_v that_o testimony_n of_o we_o your_o brethren_n concern_v our_o sincerity_n in_o profess_v of_o the_o truth_n which_o all_o who_o know_v and_o judge_v unpartial_o of_o we_o do_v think_v to_o be_v due_a to_o we_o it_o be_v sufficient_o know_v what_o pain_n we_o take_v in_o dispute_v and_o write_v against_o papist_n in_o confute_v their_o error_n in_o our_o pulpit_n in_o lead_v process_n against_o they_o according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o do_v all_o thing_n against_o romish_a error_n which_o can_v be_v expect_v from_o the_o most_o zealous_a professoures_n of_o the_o truth_n if_o you_o or_o any_o other_o of_o our_o reverend_a brethren_n doubt_v of_o the_o sincerity_n of_o our_o profession_n then_o pose_v we_o concern_v any_o article_n controvert_v and_o we_o shall_v be_v most_o ready_a to_o declare_v our_o mind_n concern_v it_o before_o all_o man_n and_o give_v a_o sufficient_a proof_n to_o the_o world_n that_o we_o have_v pry_v as_o narrow_o into_o the_o mystery_n of_o romish_a error_n for_o refutation_n of_o they_o as_o any_o of_o those_o who_o impious_o and_o uncharitablie_o traduce_v we_o as_o favourer_n of_o popery_n 2._o we_o have_v other_o mean_n more_o effectual_a and_o lawful_a whereas_o we_o think_v this_o your_o mean_n to_o be_v unlawful_a for_o hold_v out_o of_o popery_n and_o in_o which_o we_o ought_v to_o conside_fw-la more_fw-it then_o in_o all_o the_o promise_n and_o vow_n of_o man_n yea_o also_o more_o than_o in_o all_o the_o unite_a force_n of_o all_o the_o subject_n of_o this_o land_n to_o wit_n diligent_o preach_v and_o teach_v of_o the_o word_n frequent_a prayer_n to_o god_n humble_v of_o our_o selus_fw-la before_o he_o amendment_n of_o our_o life_n and_o conversation_n and_o arm_v ourselves_o against_o our_o adversary_n by_o diligent_a search_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o use_v all_o other_o mean_n whereby_o we_o may_v increase_v in_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o in_o ability_n to_o defend_v it_o against_o the_o enemy_n of_o it_o 3._o the_o subject_n of_o this_o kingdom_n at_o least_o a_o great_a part_n of_o they_o either_o by_o their_o own_o inclination_n or_o by_o the_o persuasion_n of_o other_o have_v such_o a_o hard_a conceit_n of_o the_o service_n book_n and_o canon_n that_o if_o his_o majesty_n use_v a_o fair_a and_o legal_a way_n of_o bring_v they_o into_o this_o church_n especial_o such_o a_o way_n as_o may_v give_v satisfaction_n to_o all_o his_o subject_n in_o all_o appearance_n we_o need_v not_o to_o fear_v the_o in_o bring_v of_o they_o the_o twelve_o demand_n whereas_o we_o hear_v of_o diverse_a disorder_n and_o violent_a miscarriage_n of_o those_o who_o have_v subscrive_v the_o covenant_n against_o our_o brethren_n of_o the_o holy_a ministry_n who_o continue_v in_o their_o obedience_n to_o the_o law_n of_o the_o church_n and_o kingdom_n which_o miscarriage_n be_v do_v without_o all_o form_n of_o justice_n or_o legal_a proceed_n be_v a_o exercise_v of_o revenge_n by_o private_a authority_n and_o consequent_o be_v forbid_v in_o the_o six_o commandment_n which_o be_v one_o of_o the_o reason_n which_o move_v we_o not_o to_o join_v ourselves_o unto_o their_o society_n we_o will_v gladely_a therefore_o know_v of_o our_o reverend_a brethren_n who_o have_v come_v hither_o to_o recommend_v the_o late_a covenant_n unto_o we_o first_o whether_o or_o no_o they_o do_v allow_v these_o disorder_n 2._o if_o they_o allow_v they_o what_o reason_n have_v they_o so_o to_o do_v and_o if_o they_o allow_v they_o not_o how_o be_v it_o that_o these_o disorder_n and_o miscarriage_n be_v not_o public_o by_o they_o and_o other_o pastor_n of_o their_o confederacy_n condemn_v and_o sharp_o rebuke_v in_o their_o pulpit_n why_o be_v the_o actor_n of_o they_o not_o try_v and_o censure_v and_o why_o do_v they_o delay_v to_o give_v out_o some_o public_a declaration_n either_o in_o print_n or_o writ_n to_o this_o effect_n be_v long_o since_o exhort_v to_o do_v so_o answer_n 1._o hardly_o can_v a_o zealous_a people_n assemble_v in_o a_o church_fw-mi for_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n be_v keep_v from_o tumult_n when_o book_n and_o a_o worship_n which_o they_o either_o know_v or_o conceive_v to_o be_v popish_a be_v sudden_o and_o imperious_o obtrude_v upon_o they_o by_o the_o leader_n and_o how_o far_o the_o keep_n of_o the_o material_a kirkes_n from_o the_o pollution_n of_o worship_n belong_v to_o the_o people_n and_o community_n of_o he_o faithful_n shall_v be_v consider_v 2._o violence_n do_v in_o other_o place_n and_o upon_o other_o occasion_n we_o no_o more_o allow_v than_o we_o do_v approve_v the_o aspersion_n of_o perjury_n rebellion_n etc._n etc._n which_o some_o man_n do_v put_v upon_o we_o replye_n it_o belong_v not_o to_o the_o people_n or_o community_n of_o the_o faithful_a to_o contemn_v authority_n and_o the_o lord_n service_n do_v in_o his_o own_o house_n on_o his_o own_o day_n so_o far_o as_o to_o put_v violent_a hand_n in_o praelate_n and_o pastor_n in_o time_n of_o divyne_fw-mi worship_n while_o they_o be_v practise_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v enjoin_v by_o the_o king_n and_o his_o counsel_n such_o disorder_n and_o contemptuous_a carriage_n do_v not_o beseem_v those_o who_o christ_n invit_v to_o come_v to_o he_o and_o to_o learn_v of_o he_o meekness_n and_o lowliness_n of_o heart_n chief_o see_v there_o be_v many_o other_o way_n whereby_o people_n may_v testify_v their_o aversation_n of_o those_o book_n and_o worship_n which_o they_o conceive_v to_o be_v popish_a if_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n in_o parent_n to_o provoke_v their_o child_n to_o wrath_n much_o more_o be_v it_o a_o sin_n in_o child_n to_o provoke_v their_o parent_n especial_o patrem_fw-la patriae_fw-la the_o common_a father_n of_o the_o country_n so_o to_o wrath_n 2._o the_o keep_n of_o god_n house_n from_o the_o pollution_n of_o worship_n belong_v to_o those_o who_o be_v clothe_v with_o lawful_a authority_n 3._o we_o not_o only_o ask_v of_o you_o whether_o or_o no_o you_o do_v allow_v the_o miscarriage_n towards_o our_o
the_o warrant_n which_o the_o old_a covenant_n have_v from_o king_n counsel_n and_o assembly_n remain_v virtual_o and_o be_v never_o yet_o discharge_v we_o answer_v it_o remain_v not_o and_o that_o because_o king_n james_n of_o bless_a memory_n disalow_v that_o little_a confession_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o inconveniency_n of_o the_o multitude_n of_o negative_n as_o be_v clear_a by_o his_o majesty_n word_n publish_v in_o the_o print_a sum_n of_o the_o conference_n hold_v at_o hampton_n court_n anno_fw-la 1603._o and_o no_o former_a act_n of_o counsel_n make_v in_o the_o time_n of_o any_o former_a king_n do_v sufficient_o warrant_v our_o conscience_n to_o subscrive_v any_o oath_n now_o which_o seem_v to_o we_o to_o be_v disagreable_a to_o the_o act_n of_o parliament_n and_o which_o our_o present_a dread_a sovereign_n lord_n the_o king_n majesty_n by_o his_o public_a proclamation_n and_o other_o intimation_n of_o his_o royal_a pleasure_n forbid_v we_o to_o subscrive_v and_o as_o for_o the_o act_n of_o these_o two_o assembly_n which_o do_v enjoin_v subscription_n to_o the_o say_v little_a confession_n they_o be_v relative_a to_o the_o king_n mandate_n which_o be_v now_o expire_v by_o his_o own_o declaration_n and_o with_o his_o royal_a breath_n according_a to_o that_o common_a maxim_n morte_fw-la mandatoris_fw-la expirat_fw-la mandatum_fw-la extra_n dâ—_n officio_fw-la &_o potestate_fw-la judicis_fw-la delegati_fw-la cap._n 19_o relatum_fw-la est_fw-la in_o glossa_fw-la for_o the_o injunction_n be_v give_v for_o that_o time_n only_o as_o we_o conceive_v being_n warrand_v by_o the_o word_n of_o these_o assembly_n 11._o these_o that_o be_v suspect_v of_o papistry_n among_o we_o have_v not_o be_v urge_v by_o we_o to_o subscrive_v that_o negative_a confession_n but_o only_o some_o article_n relative_a to_o the_o national_n confession_n and_o as_o â—or_a such_o as_o receive_v degree_n in_o philosophy_n in_o our_o college_n they_o do_v swear_v only_o to_o the_o true_a reform_a religion_n as_o it_o be_v public_o profess_v and_o preach_v according_a to_o god_n word_n in_o this_o church_fw-mi of_o scotland_n and_o establish_v by_o public_a authority_n with_o a_o general_a abjuration_n of_o all_o both_o popish_a and_o other_o heresy_n contrary_a thereto_o and_o those_o who_o receive_v degree_n of_o divinity_n do_v more_o express_o swear_v to_o the_o orthodox_n determination_n of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a church_fw-mi as_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o word_n of_o the_o oath_n whereof_o the_o tenor_n follow_v e_o god_n a._n b._n sancte_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la animo_fw-la coram_fw-la omniscio_fw-la &_o omnipotent_a deo_fw-la consiteor_fw-la &_o profiteo_fw-la sidem_fw-la eam_fw-la quae_fw-la de_fw-la sancta_fw-la trinitate_fw-la &_o mediatore_fw-la emmanuele_n à _fw-la sanctis_fw-la patribus_fw-la in_o sex_n primis_fw-la oecumenicis_fw-la conciliis_fw-la contra_fw-la pauli_n samosateni_n sabellii_n arii_n macedonii_fw-la apollinaris_n nestoriâ—_n euâ—â—chetis_n &_o mon_fw-fr thelitarum_fw-la haereses_fw-la proposita_fw-la explicata_fw-la &_o defensa_fw-la est_fw-la esse_fw-la veer_fw-la christianam_fw-la orthodoxam_fw-la catholicam_fw-la ex_fw-la sacris_fw-la canonicis_fw-la scripture_n haâ—stam_fw-la symbolum_n quoque_fw-la sancti_fw-la a_fw-la hanasii_fw-la ut_fw-la similiter_fw-la orthodoxum_fw-la i_o recipere_fw-la item_n i_o ex_fw-la animo_fw-la deâ—estari_fw-la haeresin_fw-la pelaginam_fw-la ejusque_fw-la reliquias_fw-la semipelagianas_n &_o eas_fw-la haereses_fw-la quae_fw-la imaginibus_fw-la aut_fw-la ulli_fw-la merae_fw-la creaturae_fw-la religiosam_fw-la concedunt_fw-la adâ—rationem_fw-la item_n i_o monarchiam_fw-la papae_fw-la romani_fw-la in_o universam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la &_o ejus_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o spiritualibus_fw-la tùm_fw-la in_o temporalibus_fw-la primatum_fw-la &_o judicii_fw-la papalis_fw-la in_o religionis_fw-la controversiis_fw-la infallibilitatem_fw-la tanquam_fw-la antichristiana_fw-la deliramenta_fw-la rejiceâ—e_fw-la omnes_fw-la etiam_fw-la alius_fw-la haereses_fw-la tum_fw-la olâ—m_fw-la invectas_fw-la tum_fw-la recens_fw-la sub_fw-la romani_fw-la pontificis_fw-la tyranmde_v natas_fw-la anathematizo_fw-la agnosco_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la in_o canonicis_fw-la v._n &_o n._n testamenti_fw-la scripture_n per_fw-la prophetas_fw-la evangelistas_n &_o apostolos_fw-la loquentem_fw-la esse_fw-la nobis_fw-la unicum_fw-la supremuâ—_fw-la infallibilem_fw-la &_o ordinarium_fw-la omnium_fw-la de_fw-la fide_fw-la vitaque_fw-la christiana_n contraversiarum_fw-la judicem_fw-la et_fw-fr s._n scripturam_fw-la canonicis_fw-la v._o aâ—_n n._n testamenti_fw-la libris_fw-la comprehensam_fw-la esse_fw-la unicam_fw-la certam_fw-la stabilem_fw-la perfectam_fw-la totalem_fw-la regulam_fw-la fidei_fw-la vitaeque_fw-la christianae_n tum_fw-la quoad_fw-la textum_fw-la tum_fw-la quoad_fw-la interpretationem_fw-la authenticam_fw-la seu_fw-la divinae_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la &_o hanc_fw-la quae_fw-la hodie_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la scoticana_fw-la palam_fw-la &_o publica_fw-la authoritate_fw-la ex_fw-la sacro_fw-la d_o e_o i_o verbo_fw-la proponitur_fw-la decredendis_fw-la sperandis_fw-la amandis_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la esse_fw-la orthodoxam_fw-la catholicam_fw-la et_fw-la ipsam_fw-la hanc_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la scoticanae_n doctrinam_fw-la â—e_n ad_fw-la extremum_fw-la usque_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la meae_fw-la haliâ—um_fw-la constant_a per_fw-la d_o e_o i_o gratiam_fw-la professurum_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la â—â—â—_o vocatione_n defensurum_fw-la sancte_fw-la promitto_fw-la juro_fw-la insuper_fw-la almae_fw-la hâ—iâ—_n universitati_fw-la câ—i_fw-la hunc_fw-la scholasticum_fw-la docturae_fw-la theologicae_fw-la honoreâ—â—_n dâ—â—ebo_fw-la i_o nunquam_fw-la ingratum_fw-la futurum_fw-la sed_fw-la semper_fw-la ei_fw-la ex_fw-la animo_fw-la faâ—turum_fw-la ejusque_fw-la commoda_fw-la pie_n serio_fw-la sedulo_fw-la fideliter_fw-la promoturum_fw-la sanctâ—_n etiam_fw-la â—oram_fw-la eodem_fw-la omniscio_fw-la &_o omnipotent_a d_o e_z o_fw-la promitto_fw-la juro_fw-la we_o who_o be_v graduate_v here_o do_v swear_v this_o oath_n and_o now_o for_o satisfaction_n of_o other_o we_o all_o do_v sincere_o attest_v god_n that_o we_o do_v and_o shall_v adhere_v to_o it_o constant_o all_o the_o day_n of_o our_o life_n 12._o you_o do_v again_o object_v to_o we_o that_o we_o have_v presume_v to_o disallow_v your_o explanation_n of_o the_o late_a covenant_n which_o have_v be_v public_o allow_v by_o his_o majesty_n commissioner_n add_v thereto_o that_o we_o will_v have_v the_o kingdom_n guilty_a of_o combination_n against_o authority_n &_o that_o we_o will_v not_o have_v the_o king_n to_o be_v satisfy_v whence_o you_o infer_v that_o our_o deal_n be_v more_o suitable_a to_o papist_n and_o such_o incendiary_n then_o for_o we_o who_o desire_v to_o prove_v good_a patriot_n in_o use_v all_o mean_n of_o pacification_n but_o certain_o you_o wrong_v we_o â—or_a what_o be_v do_v by_o his_o majesty_n commissioner_n anent_o your_o declaration_n and_o explanation_n of_o your_o covenant_n be_v evident_a by_o his_o grace_n own_o letter_n late_o write_v to_o we_o of_o that_o matter_n whereby_o his_o grace_n have_v declare_v that_o he_o be_v no_o way_n content_v therewith_o and_o that_o his_o majesty_n have_v not_o receive_v any_o satisfaction_n thereby_o the_o same_o be_v evident_a also_o by_o his_o grace_n own_o manifesto_n prefix_v to_o our_o demand_n your_o first_o answer_n and_o our_o first_o reply_v reprint_v at_o edinburgh_n by_o his_o gr._n special_a command_n to_o the_o which_o manifesto_n or_o declaration_n of_o his_o majesty_n high_a commissioner_n we_o remit_v the_o reader_n for_o his_o full_a satisfaction_n in_o this_o and_o some_o other_o point_n of_o your_o answer_n 13._o we_o intend_v not_o to_o bear_v upon_o you_o and_o your_o associate_n who_o take_v to_o yourselves_o the_o name_n of_o the_o kingdom_n here_o in_o this_o your_o answer_n guiltiness_n of_o combination_n against_o authority_n as_o we_o have_v protest_v and_o declare_v in_o the_o end_n of_o our_o â—romer_fw-ge reply_v but_o in_o the_o tenderness_n of_o our_o conscience_n we_o do_v upright_o signify_v to_o you_o our_o scruple_n which_o hinder_v we_o from_o approve_v or_o subscâ—iving_v your_o covenant_n and_o we_o be_v so_o free_a of_o that_o odious_a imputation_n of_o take_v part_n with_o any_o incendiary_n or_o imitate_v any_o proceed_n of_o that_o kind_n as_o we_o hearty_o wish_v and_o shall_v endeavour_v to_o prove_v good_a patriot_n aâ—d_a christian_n in_o such_o evident_a love_n of_o truth_n and_o peace_n as_o it_o shall_v be_v manifest_a that_o we_o neither_o have_v be_v nor_o shall_v be_v author_n or_o fomenâ—ers_n oâ—_n this_o miserable_a combustion_n 14._o you_o be_v sorry_a you_o say_v that_o we_o shall_v account_v your_o covenant_n to_o be_v a_o confederacy_n against_o the_o truth_n and_o you_o affirm_v that_o you_o labour_v with_o man_n to_o join_v with_o you_o in_o sincerity_n and_o not_o through_o humane_a fear_n now_o reverend_a brethren_n in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n lay_v aside_o all_o humane_a fear_n we_o do_v sincere_o declare_v that_o if_o we_o think_v your_o covenant_n in_o all_o point_v agreeable_a to_o the_o â—rueâ—h_n we_o shall_v make_v no_o opposition_n thereto_o and_o we_o do_v hearty_o wish_v that_o according_a as_o you_o do_v here_o profess_v â—o_o indeed_o no_o man_n be_v threaten_v wiâ—h_o worldly_a terroure_n to_o go_v your_o way_n we_o aim_v indeed_o at_o the_o same_o end_n which_o you_o profess_v to_o wit_n at_o the_o truth_n and_o purity_n of_o religion_n and_o peace_n of_o church_n and_o kingdom_n but_o we_o
be_v not_o as_o yet_o persuade_v that_o your_o way_n be_v lawful_a and_o convenient_a for_o attain_v to_o this_o end_n the_o ii_o duply._n we_o desire_v all_o trouble_n to_o be_v prevent_v by_o allowable_a mean_n but_o be_v not_o persuade_v to_o reckon_v in_o that_o number_n this_o your_o covenant_v and_o convention_n which_o we_o esteem_v to_o have_v be_v the_o occasion_n of_o much_o trouble_n as_o concern_v your_o question_n whereunto_o you_o so_o earnest_o require_v our_o answer_n to_o wit_n whether_o we_o will_v have_v receive_v the_o book_n of_o service_n and_o canon_n or_o use_v such_o mean_n as_o you_o have_v use_v for_o avoid_v they_o you_o shall_v know_v that_o if_o we_o have_v be_v of_o your_o judgement_n concern_v those_o book_n we_o will_v neither_o have_v receive_v they_o nor_o yet_o use_v any_o mean_n unlawful_a for_o oppose_v of_o they_o such_o we_o think_v your_o covenant_n and_o convention_n prohibit_v by_o authority_n to_o be_v until_o we_o be_v better_o inform_v but_o will_v have_v use_v humble_a supplication_n to_o his_o majesty_n for_o remove_v those_o evil_n and_o if_o we_o have_v find_v no_o remeed_n thereby_o will_v have_v resolve_v according_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o ancient_a christian_n either_o to_o â—â—ee_v his_o majesty_n dominion_n or_o else_o patient_o to_o suffer_v whatsoever_o punishment_n it_o shall_v have_v please_v he_o to_o insâ—ict_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n concern_v those_o book_n of_o service_n and_o canon_n we_o rest_v content_a with_o his_o majesty_n gracious_a proclamation_n and_o if_o hereafter_o our_o opinion_n of_o they_o shall_v be_v ask_v by_o authority_n we_o shall_v sincere_o and_o unpartial_o deciare_v it_o 2._o your_o urge_n of_o we_o again_o with_o the_o say_n of_o king_n james_n forâ—eth_v we_o to_o manifest_v his_o meaning_n by_o his_o own_o word_n perhaps_o contrary_a to_o your_o wish_n or_o expectation_n that_o most_o wise_a and_o religious_a king_n near_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o book_n concern_v the_o powder_n treason_n write_v express_o that_o such_o a_o rise_n up_o of_o the_o body_n pro_fw-la aris_fw-la &_o focis_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la patre_fw-la patriae_fw-la aught_o to_o be_v according_a to_o every_o one_o calling_n and_o faculty_n which_o word_n at_o least_o do_v import_n that_o the_o move_n of_o the_o politic_a body_n in_o whole_a or_o in_o parâ—_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v against_o the_o will_n &_o direction_n of_o the_o head_n this_o be_v clear_a by_o that_o which_o the_o same_o king_n have_v write_v in_o his_o book_n entitle_v the_o true_a law_n of_o free_a monarchy_n whereby_o many_o strong_a argument_n he_o do_v aâ—_n length_n demonstrate_v that_o in_o a_o free_a monarchy_n such_o he_o prove_v this_o his_o ancient_a kingdom_n of_o scotland_n to_o be_v the_o subject_n for_o no_o occasion_n or_o pretext_n whatsoever_o may_v take_v arm_n without_o power_n from_o the_o king_n and_o much_o less_o against_o he_o whether_o he_o be_v a_o good_a king_n or_o a_o oppressor_n whether_o godly_a or_o ungodlie_a although_o the_o people_n have_v might_n and_o strength_n humane_a and_o comprehend_v the_o sum_n of_o all_o his_o discourse_n concern_v this_o matter_n in_o these_o word_n follow_v short_o then_o to_o 201._o take_v up_o in_o two_o or_o three_o sentence_n ground_v upon_o all_o these_o argument_n out_o of_o the_o law_n of_o god_n the_o duty_n and_o alleadgeâ—nce_n of_o the_o people_n to_o their_o lawful_a king_n their_o obedience_n i_o say_v aught_o to_o be_v to_o he_o as_o to_o god_n lieutenant_n in_o earth_n obey_v his_o command_n in_o all_o thing_n except_o direct_o against_o god_n as_o the_o command_n of_o god_n minister_n acknowledge_v he_o a_o judge_n set_v by_o god_n over_o they_o have_v power_n to_o judge_v they_o but_o to_o be_v judge_v only_o by_o god_n who_o to_o only_o he_o must_v give_v count_n of_o his_o judgement_n fear_v he_o as_o their_o judge_n love_v he_o as_o their_o father_n pray_v for_o he_o as_o their_o protector_n for_o his_o continuance_n if_o he_o be_v good_a for_o his_o amendment_n if_o he_o be_v wicked_a follow_v and_o obey_v his_o lawful_a command_n eschew_v and_o flee_v his_o fury_n in_o his_o unlawful_a without_o resistance_n but_o by_o sob_n and_o tear_n to_o god_n according_a to_o that_o sentence_n use_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o persecution_n preces_fw-la &_o lachrymae_fw-la sunt_fw-la arma_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la that_o be_v prayer_n and_o tear_n be_v the_o arm_n of_o the_o church_n 3._o you_o tell_v we_o before_o and_o now_o again_o do_v repeat_v it_o that_o the_o first_o parâ—_n of_o the_o act_n of_o parliament_n 1585._o be_v relative_a to_o another_o act_n in_o queen_n mary_n time_n forbid_v band_n of_o manrent_a we_o know_v that_o sufficient_o before_o you_o tell_v it_o and_o pass_v by_o that_o part_n of_o your_o answer_n as_o not_o percinent_a for_o our_o argument_n so_o that_o you_o need_v not_o now_o again_o to_o put_v we_o in_o mind_n of_o it_o but_o we_o may_v just_o challenge_v you_o for_o not_o answer_v that_o which_o we_o object_v concern_v the_o second_o part_n of_o that_o act_n for_o it_o reach_v far_o than_o that_o act_n make_v in_o queen_n mary_n time_n and_o of_o new_a statute_v and_o ordain_v that_o in_o time_n come_v no_o league_n or_o band_n be_v make_v among_o his_o majesty_n subject_n of_o any_o degree_n upon_o whatsoever_o colour_n or_o preâ—ence_n without_o his_o highness_n or_o his_o successoures_n privity_n and_o consent_n have_v and_o obtain_v thereto_o under_o the_o paiâ—e_n to_o be_v hold_v and_o execute_v as_o mover_n of_o sedition_n and_o unquyetnesse_n etc._n etc._n whereunto_o also_o be_v consonant_a the_o 131._o act_n make_v in_o the_o 8_o parliament_n of_o king_n james_n the_o six_o anno_fw-la 1584._o where_o it_o be_v â—â—atuted_v and_o ordain_v by_o the_o king_n and_o his_o three_o estate_n that_o none_o of_o his_o highness_n subject_n of_o whatsoever_o quality_n estate_n or_o function_n they_o be_v of_o spiritual_a or_o temporal_a presume_v or_o take_v upon_o hand_n to_o convocate_v conveane_v or_o assemble_v themselves_o together_o for_o hold_v of_o counsel_n convention_n or_o assembly_n to_o treat_v consult_v and_o determinate_a in_o any_o matter_n of_o estate_n civil_a or_o ecclesiastical_a except_o in_o the_o ordinary_a judgement_n without_o his_o majesty_n special_a commandment_n or_o express_v licence_n have_v and_o obtain_v to_o that_o effect_n under_o the_o paiâ—es_v ordain_v by_o the_o law_n and_o act_n of_o parliament_n against_o such_o as_o unlawful_o convocate_v the_o king_n liedge_n and_o whereas_o you_o find_v fault_n that_o we_o dispute_v from_o the_o act_n of_o parliament_n and_o that_o we_o do_v precise_o adhere_v to_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o law_n we_o pray_v you_o to_o consider_v that_o the_o nature_n of_o this_o question_n lead_v we_o to_o the_o act_n of_o parliament_n beside_o it_o seem_v strange_a that_o you_o shall_v challenge_v we_o in_o this_o kind_n since_o for_o justify_v of_o your_o union_n as_o you_o call_v it_o you_o have_v amass_v a_o great_a number_n of_o act_n oâ—_n parliament_n and_o insert_v they_o in_o the_o book_n of_o your_o covenant_n we_o omit_v the_o misapply_n of_o these_o act_n which_o be_v make_v against_o popery_n and_o not_o against_o all_o these_o thing_n which_o you_o do_v now_o resist_v as_o popish_a neither_o can_v we_o perceive_v how_o these_o act_n of_o parliament_n adduce_v by_o you_o to_o justisie_n your_o union_n prove_v that_o point_n moreover_o some_o of_o these_o act_n cite_v by_o you_o as_o namely_o the_o 114_o act_n make_v in_o parliament_n anno_fw-la 1592._o in_o so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v against_o episcopal_a government_n and_o all_o other_o of_o that_o sort_n be_v express_o rescind_v by_o a_o posterior_n act_n make_v in_o parliament_n anno_fw-la 1612._o how_o can_v you_o in_o a_o legal_a dispute_n for_o justify_v your_o union_n produce_v rescinded_a act_n as_o if_o they_o be_v stand_v law_n and_o pass_v by_o the_o posterior_n act_n which_o be_v yet_o law_n stand_v in_o vigour_n whereby_o these_o other_o act_n be_v rescind_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o e._n constitutiones_fw-la tempore_fw-la posteriores_fw-la poâ—â—ores_fw-la sunt_fw-la his_o quâ—_n ipsas_fw-la praecesserunt_fw-la â—â—_o de_fw-la constitutionibus_fw-la principum_fw-la l._n 4._o 4._o we_o do_v adhere_v in_o our_o former_a reply_n not_o only_o to_o the_o letter_n but_o also_o according_a to_o our_o conception_n without_o prejudice_n of_o better_a information_n to_o the_o very_a reason_n and_o life_n of_o the_o law_n the_o sentence_n cite_v by_o you_o to_o wit_n salus_fw-la reipub._n suprema_fw-la lex_fw-la esto_fw-la or_o the_o esto_fw-la safety_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n shall_v be_v the_o chief_a law_n serve_v for_o a_o good_a direction_n to_o ruler_n in_o make_v or_o change_v of_o law_n or_o in_o judge_v according_a to_o they_o whence_o in_o the_o law_n of_o
the_o 12_o table_n these_o word_n be_v apply_v to_o this_o purpose_n this_o be_v observe_v by_o king_n james_n of_o bless_a memory_n in_o his_o often_o mention_a book_n of_o the_o true_a law_n of_o free_a monarchy_n for_o albeit_o say_v he_o that_o i_o have_v at_o length_n prove_v that_o the_o king_n be_v above_o the_o law_n as_o both_o the_o author_n and_o giver_n of_o strength_n thereto_o yet_o a_o good_a king_n will_v not_o only_a delyte_n to_o rule_v his_o subject_n by_o the_o law_n but_o even_o will_v conform_v himself_o in_o his_o own_o action_n thereunto_o always_o keep_v that_o ground_n that_o the_o health_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n be_v his_o chief_a law_n and_o where_o he_o see_v the_o law_n doubtsome_a or_o rigorous_a he_o may_v interpret_v or_o mitigate_v the_o same_o lest_o otherwise_o summum_fw-la jus_o be_v summa_fw-la injuria_fw-la but_o this_o sentence_n do_v nowayes_o warrant_v subject_n to_o refuse_v obedience_n to_o stand_a law_n against_o the_o will_n of_o the_o supreme_a lawgiver_n who_o be_v a_o speak_v law_n for_o this_o be_v to_o open_v a_o door_n to_o all_o confusion_n which_o will_v not_o prove_v the_o safety_n but_o the_o ruin_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n as_o for_o that_o which_o you_o say_v before_o of_o the_o general_n band_n and_o confession_n of_o faith_n and_o which_o here_o again_o you_o do_v allege_v for_o your_o covenant_n we_o have_v signify_v our_o opinion_n thereof_o in_o our_o precede_a dup_o the_o response_n and_o verdict_n of_o jurisconsults_a concern_v your_o covenant_n be_v not_o know_v to_o â—s_n nor_o yet_o the_o reason_n and_o inducement_n which_o move_v they_o to_o give_v out_o their_o declaration_n in_o your_o favoure_v as_o you_o allege_v of_o obedience_n due_a by_o subject_n to_o authority_n 5._o the_o point_n touch_v royal_a authority_n be_v not_o so_o full_a of_o thorn_n and_o rock_n as_o you_o give_v out_o if_o man_n will_v be_v please_v unpartial_o to_o hold_v the_o plain_a and_o patent_n way_n lay_v before_o we_o by_o holy_a scripture_n and_o by_o orthodox_n antiquity_n and_o by_o many_o eminent_a divine_n in_o the_o reform_a church_n and_o learned_a politic_n which_o we_o shall_v here_o make_v manifest_a after_o the_o vindication_n of_o those_o three_o famous_a theologue_n whitaker_n bilson_n and_o rivet_n who_o you_o will_v have_v the_o reader_n to_o esteem_v favourer_n of_o your_o opinion_n 6._o doctor_n whitaker_n word_n against_o william_n raynold_n translate_v into_o english_a out_o of_o the_o latin_a edition_n at_o oppenheme_n anno_fw-la 1612._o pag._n 51._o be_v these_o he_o relate_v the_o timult_n and_o trouble_n which_o be_v raise_v for_o religion_n in_o germany_n france_n and_o boheme_n as_o if_o that_o one_o thing_n be_v sufficient_a to_o condemn_v they_o because_o once_o they_o do_v oppose_v themselves_o and_o resist_v the_o violence_n offer_v to_o god_n truth_n and_o to_o themselves_o whereas_o notwithstanding_o faith_n oath_n and_o public_a edict_n &_o final_o the_o law_n themselves_o give_v they_o warrant_n to_o do_v the_o same_o i_o will_v not_o say_v more_o of_o this_o matter_n which_o be_v nowise_o pertinent_a to_o the_o present_a purpose_n especial_o see_v not_o only_o their_o just_a apology_n but_o also_o the_o edict_n of_o the_o prince_n themselves_o have_v liberate_v they_o from_o the_o crime_n of_o rebellion_n by_o these_o word_n of_o doctor_n whitaker_n which_o you_o have_v cite_v the_o reader_n may_v easy_o perceive_v that_o he_o do_v nowayes_o mantain_n or_o allow_v take_v of_o arm_n by_o subject_n without_o warrant_n of_o the_o public_a law_n and_o approbation_n of_o the_o prince_n but_o excuse_v what_o be_v do_v in_o those_o war_n by_o the_o allowance_n of_o the_o law_n and_o edict_n of_o prince_n 7._o so_o also_o doctor_n bilson_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v the_o true_a difference_n betwixt_o christian_a subjection_n and_o unchristian_a rebellion_n print_v at_o oxford_n anno_fw-la 1585._o pag._n 382._o in_o the_o word_n cite_v by_o you_o declare_v evident_o that_o he_o speak_v of_o such_o republicke_n and_o state_n as_o have_v defence_n warrand_v by_o fundamental_a covenant_n in_o that_o government_n but_o what_o be_v that_o doctor_n mind_n concern_v the_o duty_n of_o subject_n in_o a_o free_a and_o absolute_a monarchy_n be_v evident_a by_o his_o own_o word_n in_o that_o same_o book_n pag._n 380_o where_o dispute_v against_o a_o jesuit_n he_o say_v war_n for_o the_o catholic_n religion_n be_v both_o lawful_a and_o honourable_a you_o say_v you_o must_v add_v of_o the_o subject_n against_o their_o prince_n or_o else_o you_o range_v clean_o beside_o our_o question_n we_o strive_v not_o what_o cause_n may_v lead_v christian_a prince_n to_o make_v war_n on_o their_o neighbour_n but_o whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a or_o tollorable_a for_o the_o subject_a to_o bear_v arm_n against_o his_o natural_a and_o absolute_a prince_n you_o prove_v which_o be_v nothing_o to_o our_o purpose_n but_o sir_n in_o this_o enterprise_n the_o person_n must_v bâ—_n respect_v as_o well_o as_o the_o cause_n be_v the_o cause_n never_o so_o just_a if_o the_o person_n be_v not_o authorize_v by_o god_n to_o draw_v the_o sword_n they_o be_v no_o just_a nor_o lawful_a war_n private_a man_n may_v not_o venture_v on_o war_n unless_o they_o be_v direct_o warrand_v by_o he_o that_o have_v the_o sword_n from_o god._n and_o again_o in_o that_o same_o book_n pag._n 502_o our_o saviour_n for_o teach_v he_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v bring_v before_o king_n and_o ruler_n and_o put_v to_o death_n and_o hate_v of_o all_o man_n for_o his_o name_n sake_n add_v not_o as_o you_o will_v have_v it_o and_o he_o that_o first_o rebell_v but_o he_o that_o endure_v to_o the_o end_n shall_v be_v save_v and_o again_o not_o with_o violence_n restrain_v they_o but_o in_o patience_n prossesse_v your_o own_o soul_n this_o be_v the_o way_n for_o all_o christian_a subject_n to_o conquer_v tyrant_n &_o this_o be_v the_o remedy_n provide_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n against_o all_o persecution_n not_o to_o â—esist_v power_n which_o god_n have_v ordain_v lest_o we_o be_v damn_v but_o with_o all_o meekness_n to_o suffer_v that_o we_o may_v be_v crown_v and_o pag._n 513._o he_o show_v that_o manifold_a form_n of_o commonwealth_n make_v diverse_a man_n speak_v diverse_o of_o the_o magistrate_n sword_n and_o pag._n 518_o he_o plead_v that_o the_o subject_n in_o england_n have_v not_o that_o lawful_a warrant_n to_o draw_v the_o sword_n without_o consent_n of_o their_o prince_n as_o the_o german_n have_v without_o consent_n of_o the_o emperor_n and_o this_o discourse_n he_o prosecute_v in_o â—ome_v follow_v page_n 8._o the_o same_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o doctor_n râ—vet_n as_o we_o take_v it_o in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o psalm_n 68_o where_o he_o distinguish_v between_o a_o absolute_a principality_n and_o such_o a_o principality_n as_o be_v only_o conditional_a pactionall_a conventionall_a of_o this_o second_o sort_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v his_o word_n of_o just_a and_o necessary_a defence_n but_o of_o the_o absolute_a principality_n speak_v in_o that_o same_o place_n he_o recommend_v to_o subject_n rather_o suffer_v of_o martyrdom_n and_o this_o to_o be_v his_o meaning_n appear_v more_o clear_o by_o his_o last_o declaration_n concern_v this_o question_n in_o his_o late_a treatise_n entitle_v jesuita_fw-la vapulaâ—s_fw-la where_o be_v press_v by_o a_o advesary_a he_o handle_v this_o question_n of_o purpose_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n we_o wonder_v very_o much_o that_o you_o have_v not_o direct_o answer_v to_o these_o remarkable_a word_n of_o doctor_n rivet_n allege_v by_o we_o in_o our_o reply_n wherein_o he_o plain_o aver_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o buâ—hanâ—â—â—_n knox_n and_o goodman_n concern_v subject_n resist_v their_o lawful_a prince_n be_v not_o approve_v by_o any_o sound_a protestant_n we_o expect_v from_o you_o a_o full_a and_o particular_a answer_n and_o now_o again_o we_o will_v glad_o hear_v whether_o you_o approve_v the_o judgement_n of_o rivet_n concern_v that_o doctrine_n of_o these_o writer_n or_o not_o 9_o thus_o have_v vindicate_v these_o three_o divyne_n which_o you_o allege_v for_o you_o we_o come_v now_o to_o those_o testimony_n which_o we_o promise_v for_o clear_v of_o the_o plainness_n of_o the_o way_n touch_v authority_n first_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o holy_a scripture_n that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o subject_n in_o a_o monarchical_a estate_n such_o as_o be_v this_o kingdom_n of_o scotland_n to_o take_v arm_n for_o religion_n or_o for_o any_o other_o pretence_n without_o warrant_n and_o power_n from_o the_o prince_n and_o supreme_a migistrate_n for_o the_o scripture_n teach_v we_o that_o the_o sword_n belong_v only_o to_o the_o king_n and_o to_o they_o who_o be_v send_v by_o he_o rom._n 13._o 1._o pet._n 2._o 13._o 14._o that_o we_o ought_v to_o keep_v the_o king_n commandment_n and_o that_o
in_o regard_n of_o the_o oath_n of_o god_n eccles._n 8._o 2._o and_o that_o we_o shall_v be_v subject_a not_o only_o for_o wrath_n but_o also_o for_o conscience_n sake_n because_o the_o power_n that_o be_v be_v ordain_v of_o god_n whosoever_o therefore_o say_v s._n paul_n resist_v the_o power_n resist_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o they_o that_o resist_v shall_v receive_v to_o themselves_o damnation_n rom._n 13._o in_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n s_o paul_n there_o be_v a_o remarkable_a opposition_n betwixt_o subjection_n and_o resistance_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d imply_v that_o all_o military_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whether_o defensive_a or_o offensive_a if_o it_o be_v against_o the_o superior_a power_n which_o god_n have_v set_v over_o we_o be_v forbid_v in_o like_a manner_n we_o read_v matth._n 26._o 52._o that_o all_o they_o that_o take_v the_o sword_n shall_v perish_v with_o the_o sword_n now_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o in_o a_o free_a monarchy_n subject_n have_v not_o the_o sword_n from_o god_n except_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o king_n to_o who_o only_o god_n have_v immediate_o give_v it_o and_o therefore_o whosoever_o take_v the_o sword_n without_o his_o warrant_n have_v just_a reason_n to_o fear_v the_o foresay_a warning_n of_o our_o saviour_n many_o other_o place_n of_o scripture_n may_v be_v adduce_v to_o this_o purpose_n which_o for_o brevity_n we_o omit_v and_o do_v proceed_v in_o the_o next_o room_n to_o some_o testimony_n of_o ancient_a father_n and_o other_o writer_n 10._o tâ—rtullian_n in_o his_o apologeticke_n chap._n 30._o and_o 33._o and_o 37._o tell_v we_o that_o the_o ancient_a christian_n in_o his_o time_n although_o have_v aâ—_n heathen_a and_o persecute_v emperor_n do_v honour_v he_o as_o choose_v of_o god_n and_o second_o from_o god_n and_o first_o after_o god_n and_o do_v choose_v rather_o to_o suffer_v then_o to_o make_v resistance_n by_o force_n of_o arm_n although_o they_o lack_v not_o number_n and_o strength_n to_o do_v it_o 11._o the_o like_a example_n have_v we_o in_o that_o renown_a thebean_a legion_n of_o 6666_o christian_a soldier_n call_v agaunenses_n from_o the_o place_n of_o their_o suffering_n who_o without_o make_v resistance_n as_o they_o have_v strength_n of_o hand_n to_o have_v do_v suffer_v themselves_o rather_o to_o be_v slay_v for_o their_o christian_a profession_n by_o the_o officer_n of_o maximian_n the_o emperor_n executor_n of_o his_o cruel_a commandment_n against_o they_o this_o fall_v out_o in_o the_o 18_o year_n of_o diocletian_a as_o ado_n viennensis_n write_v in_o his_o chronicle_n which_o be_v the_o year_n of_o god_n 297_o as_o cardinal_n baronius_n reckon_v in_o his_o annal_n and_o of_o that_o their_o christian_a cowrage_n and_o pious_a resolution_n venantius_n fortunatus_n a_o ancient_a bishop_n of_o poitiers_n have_v leave_v unto_o we_o these_o encomiasticke_a line_n in_o the_o second_o book_n of_o his_o poem_n biblioth_n patr._n tom._n 8._o edit_fw-la 4._o pag._n 781._o queis_fw-la positis_fw-la gladiis_fw-la sunt_fw-la armaè_fw-la dogmate_fw-it pauli_n nomine_fw-la pro_fw-la christi_fw-la dulcius_fw-la esse_fw-la mori_fw-la pectore_fw-la belligero_fw-la poterant_fw-la qui_fw-la vincere_fw-la ferro_fw-la invitant_fw-la jugulis_fw-la vulnera_fw-la chara_fw-la suis._n 12._o gregory_n nazianzen_n in_o his_o first_o oration_n speak_v of_o the_o persecution_n by_o julian_n the_o apostate_n when_o the_o christian_n be_v more_o in_o number_n and_o strong_a in_o might_n of_o hand_n to_o have_v make_v open_a resistance_n if_o they_o have_v in_o their_o conscience_n find_v it_o agreeable_a to_o their_o christian_a profession_n declare_v plain_o that_o they_o have_v no_o other_o remedy_n against_o that_o persecution_n but_o patient_a suffering_n for_o christ_n with_o gloriation_n in_o christ._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 13._o s._n ambrose_n have_v receive_v imperial_a commandment_n to_o deliver_v the_o sacred_a house_n or_o church_n to_o be_v possess_v by_o the_o arian_n declare_v what_o he_o think_v convenient_a to_o be_v do_v in_o such_o a_o case_n to_o wâ—t_v neither_o to_o obey_v in_o that_o which_o he_o can_v not_o perform_v with_o a_o good_a conscience_n noâ—_n yet_o to_o resist_v by_o force_n of_o arm_n his_o word_n to_o the_o people_n conâ—ione_n 1._o contra_fw-la auxentium_fw-la be_v these_o resistere_fw-la why_o then_o be_v you_o trouble_v i_o shall_v never_o willing_o leave_v you_o if_o i_o be_v compel_v i_o can_v not_o gain-stand_a i_o may_v be_v sorry_a i_o may_v weep_v i_o may_v sigh_v against_o arm_n soldier_n the_o goth_n also_o my_o tear_n be_v arm_n for_o such_o be_v the_o guard_n of_o a_o priest_n otherwise_o i_o neither_o ought_v nor_o may_v resist_v and_o in_o the_o second_o book_n of_o his_o epistle_n and_o 14_o epistle_n to_o his_o sister_n marcellina_n speak_v of_o that_o same_o purpose_n he_o say_v debeo_fw-la i_o shall_v not_o fortify_v myself_o with_o a_o multitude_n of_o people_n about_o i_o we_o beseech_v o_o emperor_n we_o fight_v not_o i_o may_v not_o deliver_v the_o church_n but_o i_o ought_v not_o make_v resistance_n 14._o such_o also_o be_v they_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o many_o other_o great_a light_n which_o shine_v in_o the_o day_n of_o julian_n the_o apostate_n and_o in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o arrian_n emperor_n and_o gothicke_a arrian_n king_n 15._o s._n augustine_n write_v of_o a_o lawful_a war_n acknowledge_v that_o only_a to_o be_v lawful_a which_o have_v authority_n from_o the_o prince_n for_o it_o be_v 75._o much_o to_o be_v regard_v say_v he_o for_o what_o cause_n and_o by_o who_o authority_n man_n undertake_v war_n but_o that_o natural_a order_n which_o be_v accommodate_v to_o the_o peace_n of_o mortal_a man_n require_v this_o that_o the_o authority_n and_o counsel_n of_o undertake_v war_n be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o prince_n 16._o the_o imperial_a law_n do_v say_v the_o same_o ff_n ad_fw-la legem_fw-la juliam_fw-la majestatis_fw-la leg._n 3_o eadem_fw-la lege_fw-la tenetur_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la injussu_fw-la principis_fw-la bellum_fw-la gesserit_fw-la delectumuâ—_n habuerit_fw-la exâ—rcitum_fw-la comparaverit_fw-la et_fw-la cod._n ut_fw-la armorum_fw-la usus_fw-la inscio_fw-la principe_fw-la interdictus_fw-la sit_fw-la nulli_fw-la prorsus_fw-la nobis_fw-la insciis_fw-la atque_fw-la inconsultis_fw-la quorum_fw-la libet_fw-la armorum_fw-la movendorum_fw-la copia_fw-la tribuatur_fw-la these_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o emperor_n valentinian_n and_o valens_n et_fw-la cod._n de_fw-fr â—e_n militari_fw-la leg._n 13._o nemo_fw-la mile_n nemo_fw-la mile_n vel_fw-la sibi_fw-la vacet_fw-la vel_fw-la aliena_fw-la obsequia_fw-la â—e_n nutu_fw-la principali_fw-la peragere_fw-la audeat_fw-la etc._n etc._n 17._o bodin_n in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr republica_n cap._n 10._o num._n 155_o and_o 156._o pag._n 244._o edit_fw-la latin_n 4._o ursell_n anno_fw-la 1601._o reckon_v among_o the_o proper_a right_n of_o majesty_n the_o right_a and_o power_n to_o make_v war_n and_o this_o he_o show_v to_o appertain_v in_o a_o free_a monarchy_n to_o the_o prince_n only_o 18._o to_o this_o meaning_n say_v peter_n martyr_n as_o concern_v the_o efficient_a cause_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o war_n may_v not_o be_v make_v without_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o prince_n for_o paul_n say_v that_o he_o bear_v the_o sword_n therefore_o he_o may_v give_v it_o to_o who_o he_o will_v and_o may_v take_v it_o from_o who_o he_o will_v loc._n com._n class_n 4._o cap._n 16._o §_o 2._o and_o a_o little_a after_o to_o wit_n §_o 7._o he_o recite_v and_o commend_v a_o say_n of_o hostiensis_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n 19_o calvin_n in_o the_o fourâ—h_a book_n of_o his_o institution_n in_o the_o last_o chapter_n of_o that_o book_n dispute_v the_o question_n at_o length_n and_o by_o many_o strong_a argument_n evince_v and_o conclude_v that_o it_o be_v nowise_o lawful_a for_o subject_n to_o resist_v their_o prince_n by_o force_n of_o arm_n whether_o the_o prince_n be_v godly_a and_o just_a or_o ungodly_a and_o unjust_a in_o his_o conversation_n and_o commandment_n and_o that_o nothing_o remain_v to_o subject_n in_o such_o a_o case_n but_o to_o obey_v or_o suffer_v where_o understand_v that_o fleing_n be_v a_o sort_n of_o suffer_v neither_o be_v his_o word_n subjoin_v in_o the_o 31_o sect._n to_o wit_n i_o speak_v alwise_o of_o private_a man_n etc._n etc._n contrary_a to_o this_o for_o first_o calvin_n in_o this_o dispute_n indifferent_o use_v the_o name_n of_o private_a man_n and_o subject_n and_o therefore_o in_o the_o 22_o sect._n at_o the_o begin_n of_o it_o he_o term_v those_o of_o who_o duty_n he_o dispute_v subject_n 6._o and_o indeed_o whosoever_o be_v a_o subject_a be_v also_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o supreme_a ruler_n a_o private_a man_n although_o magistrate_n who_o be_v under_o the_o king_n be_v public_a person_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o inferior_n yet_o be_v consider_v with_o relation_n to_o he_o that_o be_v supreme_a 1._o pet._n 2._o 13._o
uniformity_n of_o divyne_fw-mi service_n throughout_o this_o national_n kirk_n and_o a_o more_o perfect_a form_n than_o we_o yet_o have_v that_o the_o public_a service_n be_v not_o permit_v to_o the_o several_a judgement_n and_o private_a choice_n of_o every_o minister_n and_o reader_n which_o also_o be_v think_v convenient_a by_o the_o national_n assembly_n of_o the_o kirk_n of_o scotland_n hold_v at_o aberdene_n anno_fw-la 1616._o 2._o whether_o that_o service_n book_n now_o discharge_v contain_v any_o innovation_n of_o religion_n or_o any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o protestant_a religion_n as_o you_o allege_v we_o do_v not_o dispute_v now_o but_o we_o do_v assure_o believe_v the_o piety_n and_o sincerity_n of_o his_o majesty_n intention_n ever_o to_o have_v be_v and_o still_o constant_o to_o be_v as_o it_o be_v gracious_o declare_v by_o his_o majesty_n late_a proclamation_n and_o we_o be_v certain_o persuade_v that_o his_o majesty_n have_v give_v order_n to_o discharge_v all_o the_o act_n of_o counsel_n make_v anent_o the_o canon_n and_o service_n book_n and_o be_v credible_o inform_v that_o they_o be_v discharge_v by_o act_n of_o counsel_n at_o holy-rood-house_n the_o five_o of_o jullie_n last_o according_o to_o the_o order_n give_v by_o his_o majesty_n also_o we_o see_v no_o such_o just_a cause_n of_o fear_n as_o may_v import_v your_o allege_v necessity_n of_o covenant_v see_v his_o majesty_n will_v not_o press_v any_o thing_n of_o that_o nature_n but_o in_o such_o a_o fair_a and_o legal_a way_n as_o shall_v satisfy_v all_o his_o love_a subject_n that_o he_o neither_o intend_v innovation_n in_o religion_n nor_o law_n as_o we_o declare_v in_o our_o former_a reply_n to_o which_o you_o have_v not_o sufficient_o answer_v neither_o be_v it_o necessary_a for_o remove_v of_o any_o just_a fear_n that_o his_o sacred_a majesty_n shall_v disallow_v that_o service_n book_n as_o you_o require_v but_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o discharge_v it_o in_o manner_n foresay_a 3._o you_o do_v conclude_v your_o answer_n unto_o our_o three_o reply_n with_o a_o uncouth_a and_o incredible_a position_n whereof_o you_o bring_v no_o proof_n at_o all_o but_o only_o this_o bare_a assertion_n whosoever_o profess_v themselves_o to_o be_v perfect_o satisfy_v with_o the_o proclamation_n do_v proclaim_v in_o the_o ear_n of_o all_o the_o kingdom_n that_o they_o be_v better_o please_v with_o the_o service_n book_n and_o canon_n then_o with_o the_o religion_n as_o it_o have_v be_v profess_v in_o this_o land_n since_o the_o reformation_n this_o your_o thesis_n be_v so_o evident_o weak_a that_o we_o need_v no_o more_o for_o the_o overthrow_n thereof_o but_o to_o oppose_v thereunto_o this_o our_o plain_n and_o undeniable_a antithesis_fw-la who_o profess_v themselves_o to_o be_v perfect_o satisfy_v with_o that_o proclamation_n whereby_o the_o service_n book_n and_o canon_n be_v discharge_v and_o the_o religion_n profess_v in_o this_o land_n since_o the_o reformation_n be_v establish_v do_v proclaim_v in_o the_o ear_n of_o all_o the_o kingdom_n that_o they_o be_v better_o please_v with_o the_o religion_n profess_v in_o this_o land_n since_o the_o reformation_n then_o with_o the_o service_n book_n and_o canon_n the_o iv._o duply._n yeâ—_n allege_v before_o and_o now_o again_o do_v affirm_v that_o we_o have_v mistake_v your_o interpretation_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n as_o if_o it_o have_v be_v give_v out_o judicial_o by_o you_o and_o as_o if_o you_o have_v intend_v to_o enforce_v it_o upon_o other_o to_o free_v yourselves_o of_o this_o imputation_n you_o say_v in_o your_o first_o answer_n that_o you_o intend_v only_o to_o make_v know_v your_o own_o meaning_n according_a to_o the_o mind_n our_o reformer_n and_o in_o charity_n to_o recommend_v it_o to_o other_o hence_o we_o infer_v in_o our_o reply_n that_o you_o ought_v nor_o to_o obtrude_v your_o interpretation_n upon_o we_o nor_o molest_v any_o man_n for_o not_o receive_v the_o same_o to_o this_o now_o you_o say_v in_o your_o second_o answer_n although_o you_o neither_o use_v threaten_n nor_o obtrude_v your_o interpretation_n upon_o we_o yet_o we_o must_v pardon_v you_o if_o you_o match_v we_o not_o with_o the_o great_a part_n of_o this_o kingdom_n in_o who_o name_n by_o all_o fair_a mean_n you_o recommend_v it_o to_o we_o true_o brethren_n we_o be_v not_o offend_v with_o you_o for_o prefer_v the_o judgement_n of_o so_o many_o to_o our_o judgement_n who_o be_v but_o few_o in_o number_n neither_o need_v you_o to_o crave_v pardon_n of_o we_o for_o this_o but_o concern_v these_o fair_a mean_n and_o that_o force_n of_o reason_n whereby_o you_o say_v you_o recommend_v your_o interpretation_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n to_o we_o pardon_v we_o if_o the_o experience_n we_o have_v both_o of_o your_o write_n and_o proceed_n make_v we_o to_o oppose_v this_o your_o assertion_n for_o in_o your_o write_n we_o expect_v indeed_o but_o have_v not_o find_v that_o force_n of_o reason_n whereof_o you_o speak_v and_o as_o for_o the_o proceed_n of_o those_o who_o have_v subscrive_v your_o covenant_n we_o of_o all_o man_n have_v least_o reason_n to_o believe_v that_o they_o use_v no_o threaten_n see_v we_o hear_v daily_a so_o much_o their_o threaten_n against_o ourselves_o 2._o whereas_o for_o clear_v of_o that_o which_o you_o say_v before_o concern_v the_o mind_n of_o our_o reformer_n you_o affirm_v that_o the_o authoritative_a judgement_n of_o our_o reformer_n be_v evident_a not_o only_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n ratify_v in_o parliament_n but_o also_o by_o the_o book_n of_o discipline_n act_n of_o general_n assembly_n and_o by_o their_o own_o write_v first_o we_o marvel_v how_o you_o can_v say_v that_o the_o private_a write_n of_o master_n knox_n and_o other_o who_o with_o he_o be_v instrument_n of_o that_o great_a work_n of_o reformation_n have_v public_a authority_n to_o obliedge_v the_o subject_n of_o this_o kingdom_n the_o legislative_a and_o obligatory_a power_n of_o the_o church_n be_v only_o in_o synod_n or_o convention_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n and_o not_o in_o particular_a person_n express_v their_o mind_n apart_o next_o this_o church_n in_o the_o former_a age_n by_o abrogate_a the_o office_n of_o superintendant_o establish_v in_o the_o first_o book_n of_o discipline_n have_v declare_v that_o the_o statute_n and_o ordinance_n contain_v in_o those_o book_n be_v not_o of_o a_o authority_n perpetual_o obligatory_a but_o may_v be_v alter_v or_o abrogate_a by_o the_o church_n according_a to_o the_o exigencie_n of_o tyme._n the_o same_o likewise_o be_v manifest_a by_o the_o abrogation_n of_o summary_n excommunication_n which_o this_o church_n do_v abolish_v although_o it_o be_v establish_v in_o general_n assembly_n wherein_o master_n knox_n and_o other_o reformer_n be_v present_a we_o need_v not_o to_o insist_v much_o in_o this_o see_v so_o many_o of_o you_o who_o be_v subscribent_n misregard_n the_o ordinance_n of_o our_o reformer_n prefix_v to_o the_o psalm_n book_n concern_v the_o office_n of_o superintendant_o or_o bishop_n funeral_n sermon_n and_o set_v form_n of_o prayer_n which_o they_o appoint_v to_o be_v public_o read_v in_o the_o church_n hence_o the_o reader_n may_v perceive_v that_o you_o have_v no_o warrant_n for_o your_o interpretation_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n from_o the_o authoritative_a and_o obligatory_a judgement_n of_o the_o reformer_n see_v you_o can_v not_o ground_v it_o upon_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n ratify_v in_o parliament_n as_o for_o those_o other_o mean_v mention_v by_o we_o to_o wit_n scripture_n antiquity_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n that_o they_o true_o make_v for_o we_o and_o against_o you_o the_o unpartial_a reader_n may_v perceive_v by_o these_o our_o disput_n whether_o or_o not_o episcopacy_n and_o pearth_n article_n be_v abjure_v in_o the_o late_a covenant_n 3._o as_o for_o the_o second_o mistake_v mention_v by_o you_o in_o your_o answer_n we_o do_v show_v in_o our_o reply_n that_o in_o your_o covenant_n pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n be_v abjure_v and_o for_o prove_v of_o this_o we_o ask_v of_o you_o what_o you_o mean_v by_o the_o recovery_n and_o liberty_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o it_o be_v establish_v and_o profess_v before_o the_o foresay_a novation_n and_o what_o be_v that_o period_n of_o time_n to_o which_o your_o word_n there_o have_v reference_n that_o be_v whether_o it_o be_v that_o period_n of_o time_n when_o the_o service_n book_n and_o book_n of_o canon_n be_v urge_v upon_o you_o or_o if_o it_o be_v the_o time_n when_o pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n be_v receive_v in_o this_o church_n but_o true_o your_o answer_n to_o this_o be_v nowise_o satisfactory_a nor_o have_v so_o much_o as_o a_o show_n of_o satisfaction_n for_o you_o be_v afraid_a to_o express_v that_o period_n of_o time_n lest_o you_o beforce_v to_o grant_v that_o which_o we_o before_o object_v and_o yet_o your_o
speech_n bewray_v you_o for_o see_v you_o answer_v only_o to_o that_o which_o we_o say_v concern_v the_o last_o of_o these_o two_o period_n we_o collect_v that_o by_o the_o recovery_n of_o the_o liberty_n and_o purity_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o it_o be_v establish_v before_o the_o foresaid_a novation_n you_o mean_v the_o reduce_n of_o the_o policy_n of_o this_o church_n unto_o that_o estate_n in_o which_o it_o be_v before_o pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n be_v establish_v and_o hence_o we_o infer_v as_o we_o do_v before_o that_o in_o that_o part_n of_o your_o covenant_n you_o condemn_v and_o abjure_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n as_o contrary_a to_o the_o purity_n and_o liberty_n of_o the_o gospel_n 4._o you_o seem_v to_o answer_v that_o in_o that_o part_n of_o your_o covenant_n you_o condemn_v not_o pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n but_o those_o abuse_n &_o corruption_n which_o have_v accompany_v they_o such_o as_o the_o superstitious_a observe_v of_o day_n cessation_n from_o work_n on_o those_o day_n feast_v guysing_n and_o the_o gross_a abuse_n which_o have_v enter_v in_o the_o sacrament_n upon_o kneel_v before_o the_o element_n and_o that_o in_o respect_n of_o these_o abuse_n we_o who_o allow_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n may_v swear_v without_o prejudice_n of_o our_o cause_n to_o recover_v the_o purity_n and_o liberty_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o it_o be_v establish_v and_o profess_v before_o these_o novation_n 5._o but_o first_o let_v any_o indifferent_a or_o unpartial_a man_n who_o know_v the_o state_n of_o our_o church_n judge_n whether_o or_o not_o it_o be_v likely_a that_o your_o vow_n of_o the_o recover_v the_o liberty_n and_o purity_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o it_o be_v before_o episcopacy_n and_o pearth_n article_n be_v introduce_v import_v only_o a_o intention_n of_o remove_v of_o the_o consequent_n of_o pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n and_o not_o of_o the_o remove_n of_o those_o thing_n themselves_o true_o we_o be_v persuade_v that_o they_o who_o know_v the_o state_n of_o this_o church_n and_o your_o mind_n concern_v these_o thing_n will_v think_v this_o your_o gloss_n of_o your_o own_o word_n to_o be_v violent_a and_o excogitated_a for_o elude_v our_o argument_n 6._o second_o who_o can_v think_v that_o you_o and_o other_o contryver_n of_o the_o late_a covenant_n who_o condemn_v pâ—arth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n as_o much_o as_o you_o do_v the_o consequent_n of_o they_o have_v only_o vow_v to_o remove_v their_o consequent_n and_o not_o remove_v themselves_o 7._o three_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o any_o can_v promise_v and_o vow_n to_o labour_v for_o the_o cure_n of_o so_o many_o and_o so_o great_a pretend_a disease_n of_o this_o church_n we_o mean_v these_o abuse_n which_o you_o say_v have_v accompany_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n promise_n and_o intend_v nothing_o concern_v the_o remove_n of_o the_o cause_n of_o they_o 8._o four_o how_o can_v we_o without_o great_a prejudice_n of_o our_o cause_n acknowledge_v that_o these_o gross_a abuse_n mention_v by_o you_o have_v enter_v in_o the_o sacrament_n by_o kneel_v before_o the_o element_n you_o shall_v have_v say_v at_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o element_n for_o see_v kneel_v at_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v confess_v by_o we_o to_o be_v a_o matter_n indifferent_a if_o in_o our_o oath_n we_o acknowledge_v these_o gross_a abuse_n to_o have_v enter_v in_o upon_o kneel_v it_o will_v probable_o follow_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o some_o and_o in_o our_o judgement_n who_o recommend_v this_o oath_n unto_o we_o it_o will_v follow_v infallible_o that_o kneel_v for_o the_o evil_a consequence_n thereof_o aught_o to_o be_v remove_v do_v you_o not_o here_o cunning_o deal_v with_o we_o for_o although_o you_o urge_v we_o not_o as_o you_o say_v to_o swear_v and_o promise_v the_o remove_n of_o kneel_v yet_o you_o urge_v we_o by_o your_o own_o confession_n to_o promise_v the_o remove_n of_o these_o abuse_n occasion_v by_o kneel_v which_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o we_o you_o will_v then_o take_v upon_o you_o to_o demonstrate_v that_o kneel_v itself_o aught_o to_o be_v remove_v for_o you_o hold_v it_o for_o a_o maxim_n that_o thing_n indifferent_a be_v abuse_v and_o pollute_v with_o superstition_n shall_v be_v abolish_v we_o can_v sufficient_o marvel_v how_o you_o who_o be_v of_o this_o mind_n can_v say_v to_o we_o that_o we_o who_o allow_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n may_v swear_v to_o recover_v the_o liberty_n and_o purity_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o it_o be_v before_o etc._n etc._n for_o you_o mean_v that_o we_o may_v do_v so_o without_o prejudice_n of_o our_o cause_n but_o we_o have_v already_o show_v that_o according_a to_o your_o judgement_n and_o doctrine_n if_o we_o swear_v that_o which_o you_o will_v have_v we_o to_o swear_v our_o cause_n shall_v be_v much_o prejudge_v yea_o utter_o lose_v 9_o five_o how_o can_v we_o swear_v to_o remove_v those_o gross_a abuse_n enter_v in_o upon_o kneel_v as_o you_o allege_v see_v we_o think_v that_o no_o such_o abuse_n have_v enter_v in_o upon_o it_o yea_o our_o people_n try_v they_o who_o please_v will_v show_v that_o they_o be_v as_o free_v from_o all_o erroneous_a conceit_n concern_v that_o holy_a sacrament_n as_o any_o live_n in_o these_o congregation_n where_o kneel_v be_v daily_a cry_v down_o 10._o sixth_o as_o for_o these_o abuse_n and_o corruption_n reckon_v up_o by_o you_o as_o the_o consequent_n of_o the_o observation_n of_o festival_n day_n to_o pass_v by_o that_o which_o before_o we_o mark_v concern_v kneel_v to_o wit_n that_o the_o grant_n of_o this_o be_v a_o great_a prejudice_n to_o our_o cause_n some_o of_o these_o be_v not_o abuse_n at_o all_o as_o cessation_n from_o work_n again_o some_o of_o they_o have_v not_o come_v in_o upon_o the_o observation_n of_o the_o article_n of_o pearth_n as_o guysing_n and_o feast_v you_o mean_v excessive_a feast_v for_o otherwise_o it_o be_v not_o a_o abuse_n which_o only_o fall_v forth_o on_o christmas_n festivitie_n for_o sure_o we_o be_v that_o these_o abuse_n have_v not_o come_v by_o the_o anniversary_n commemoration_n of_o christ_n nativity_n in_o the_o which_o by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o pearth_n assembly_n all_o superstition_n observation_n and_o profanation_n of_o that_o day_n or_o any_o other_o day_n be_v prohibit_v and_o appoint_v to_o be_v rebuke_v this_o the_o reverend_a and_o learned_a bishop_n of_o edinburgh_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o act_n of_o pearth_n assembly_n concern_v festivity_n pag._n 63._o prove_v because_o say_v he_o we_o have_v lack_v preach_v upon_o christmasday_n these_o fifty_o seven_o year_n by-gone_a in_o our_o church_n yet_o riot_n prophannesse_n surfeit_n and_o drunkenness_n have_v not_o be_v want_v 11._o seven_o as_o for_o superstitious_a observation_n of_o day_n whereof_o hitherto_o we_o have_v have_v no_o experience_n we_o marvel_v that_o you_o can_v reckon_v it_o among_o the_o consequent_n of_o the_o observation_n of_o day_n see_v in_o your_o judgement_n it_o be_v all_o one_o with_o the_o observation_n of_o day_n for_o you_o think_v the_o observation_n of_o any_o day_n except_o the_o lord_n day_n to_o be_v in_o the_o own_o nature_n of_o it_o superstitious_a and_o will-worship_n 12._o as_o for_o the_o last_o part_n of_o your_o answer_n to_o our_o argument_n concern_v the_o foresay_a period_n of_o time_n where_o you_o allege_v that_o many_o corruption_n of_o popish_a and_o arminian_n doctrine_n have_v enter_v in_o the_o church_fw-mi etc._n etc._n we_o ask_v you_o whether_o you_o design_v here_o another_o period_n of_o time_n than_o you_o do_v before_o or_o if_o you_o design_v only_o this_o self_n same_o period_n of_o time_n in_o the_o which_o both_o the_o foresay_a practical_a abuse_n and_o these_o doctrinal_a corruption_n have_v enter_v into_o this_o church_n accompany_v as_o you_o allege_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n or_o last_o of_o all_o if_o you_o design_v no_o period_n of_o time_n at_o all_o if_o you_o take_v you_o to_o this_o last_o profess_v that_o you_o have_v here_o design_v no_o period_n of_o time_n than_o you_o answer_v not_o our_o argument_n wherein_o we_o particular_o and_o express_o pose_v you_o concern_v that_o period_n of_o time_n unto_o which_o your_o word_n cite_v oft_o before_o have_v reference_n if_o you_o design_v the_o same_o period_n of_o time_n then_o look_v how_o you_o can_v escape_v our_o precede_a argument_n concern_v that_o period_n of_o time_n 13._o but_o if_o you_o design_v a_o other_o period_n of_o time_n than_o we_o ask_v you_o whether_o it_o be_v prior_n or_o posterior_n to_o the_o period_n of_o time_n already_o mention_v to_o wit_n the_o time_n precede_v the_o bring_n in_o of_o the_o article_n of_o pearth_n you_o can_v not_o say_v that_o it_o be_v posterior_n to_o it_o for_o you_o complain_v
hominem_fw-la have_v be_v anticipate_v because_o it_o will_v not_o have_v be_v pertinent_a for_o they_o but_o you_o be_v deceive_v for_o we_o have_v ever_o look_v principal_o to_o these_o who_o be_v the_o first_o contryver_n of_o the_o late_a covenant_n or_o have_v special_a hand_n in_o it_o that_o be_v to_o yourselves_o and_o to_o other_o who_o these_o many_o year_n by-gone_a have_v oppose_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n as_o popish_a corruption_n abjure_v in_o the_o old_a covenant_n and_o consequent_o have_v in_o this_o late_a covenant_n in_o the_o which_o that_o former_a covenant_n be_v renew_v by_o your_o own_o personal_a oath_n abjure_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n if_o then_o that_o other_o sort_n of_o commissioner_n have_v come_v unto_o we_o we_o will_v have_v say_v to_o they_o that_o we_o can_v not_o swear_v the_o late_a covenant_n because_o pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n be_v in_o it_o abjure_v and_o this_o we_o will_v have_v prove_v by_o the_o like_a argument_n ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la that_o be_v by_o a_o argument_n ground_v upon_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o contriver_n of_o the_o late_a covenant_n as_o you_o may_v easy_o perceive_v 20._o three_o you_o say_v that_o we_o have_v perceive_v the_o insufficiency_n of_o our_o argument_n because_o we_o object_v this_o to_o ourselves_o that_o see_v we_o think_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n not_o to_o be_v abjure_v in_o the_o old_a covenant_n we_o may_v subscrive_v the_o new_a covenant_n in_o the_o which_o that_o old_a covenant_n be_v revew_v true_o you_o may_v have_v allege_v this_o if_o we_o have_v propound_v that_o objection_n and_o have_v leave_v it_o unanswered_a but_o we_o answer_v it_o and_o bring_v some_o reason_n which_o you_o wise_o do_v pass_v by_o perceive_v the_o force_n of_o they_o to_o show_v that_o we_o can_v not_o convenient_o subscrive_v your_o late_a covenant_n notwithstanding_o of_o our_o judgement_n of_o rather_o opinion_n of_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n we_o say_v opinion_n for_o to_o speak_v true_o what_o we_o think_v we_o doubt_v and_o so_o do_v other_o with_o we_o concern_v the_o meaning_n of_o some_o part_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n touch_v matter_n of_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n and_o have_v not_o so_o full_a a_o persuasion_n in_o our_o mind_n concern_v those_o part_n as_o may_v be_v to_o we_o a_o warrant_n of_o our_o oath_n 21._o four_o whereas_o you_o say_v that_o it_o be_v not_o for_o we_o to_o inquire_v in_o your_o private_a opinion_n concern_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o late_a covenant_n in_o that_o part_n of_o it_o where_o it_o tie_v we_o to_o the_o inviolable_a observation_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n noâ—_n be_v it_o necessary_a for_o you_o to_o make_v it_o know_v to_o we_o we_o answer_v that_o we_o inquire_v not_o your_o private_a opinion_n but_o the_o common_a judgement_n of_o all_o those_o who_o with_o you_o these_o twenty_o year_n bypass_v have_v accuse_v we_o of_o perjury_n for_o the_o allege_v violation_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n swear_v by_o our_o predecessor_n and_o true_o we_o have_v more_o than_o reason_n to_o do_v so_o because_o we_o most_o just_o fear_v that_o you_o who_o have_v so_o oft_o accuse_v we_o of_o perjury_n for_o practise_v rite_n and_o ceremony_n abjure_v as_o you_o allege_v in_o the_o old_a covenant_n swear_v by_o our_o predecessor_n will_v much_o more_o vehement_o yea_o also_o with_o a_o great_a show_n of_o probability_n accuse_v we_o of_o perjury_n for_o violation_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n swear_v and_o ratify_v by_o ourselves_o in_o this_o late_a covenant_n if_o we_o shall_v stand_v to_o the_o defence_n of_o pearth_n article_n in_o time_n to_o come_v it_o become_v we_o therefore_o for_o eschew_v of_o this_o inconvenient_a to_o inquire_v of_o you_o and_o you_o also_o sincere_o and_o plain_o to_o declare_v to_o we_o whether_o or_o not_o we_o may_v subscrive_v and_o swear_v the_o new_a covenant_n as_o it_o include_v and_o ratify_v the_o old_a and_o yet_o be_v real_o free_a from_o all_o abjuration_n or_o condemn_v of_o pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n and_o likewise_o whither_o or_o not_o you_o and_o all_o other_o who_o be_v of_o your_o mind_n will_v hold_v and_o esteem_v we_o free_a from_o abjuration_n of_o they_o notwithstanding_o of_o our_o subscrive_v of_o your_o covenant_n these_o question_n require_v a_o punctual_a answer_n for_o if_o our_o subscrive_v of_o your_o covenant_n may_v either_o import_v a_o real_a abjuration_n of_o pearth_n article_n or_o if_o it_o may_v make_v you_o to_o think_v that_o by_o virtue_n of_o our_o subscription_n we_o be_v real_o and_o indeed_o bind_v to_o reject_v they_o for_o ever_o neither_o can_v we_o with_o a_o good_a conscience_n subscrive_v your_o covenant_n neither_o can_v you_o with_o a_o good_a conscience_n require_v it_o of_o we_o 22._o five_o from_o our_o refuse_v to_o subscrive_v the_o late_a covenant_n in_o so_o far_o as_o it_o renew_v the_o old_a covenant_n or_o little_a confession_n because_o that_o confessiâ—_n according_a to_o your_o interpretation_n or_o conception_n of_o it_o import_v a_o abjuration_n of_o pearth_n article_n you_o collect_v first_o that_o upon_o this_o ground_n we_o will_v not_o have_v subscrive_v the_o late_a confession_n any_o time_n bypass_v second_o that_o we_o can_v not_o sweat_v the_o confession_n of_o any_o church_n no_o not_o the_o article_n of_o the_o creed_n petition_n of_o the_o lord_n prayer_n nor_o precept_n of_o the_o ten_o commandment_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o diverse_a interpretation_n which_o man_n give_v of_o they_o we_o answer_v first_o that_o since_o the_o little_a confession_n be_v not_o of_o divine_a authority_n and_o since_o the_o humane_a authority_n which_o it_o have_v have_v these_o many_o year_n by-gone_a cease_v as_o the_o peaceable_a warn_v late_o give_v to_o the_o subject_n in_o scotland_n prove_v we_o will_v have_v refuse_v our_o subscription_n unto_o it_o ever_o since_o we_o hear_v that_o it_o import_v a_o abjuration_n of_o all_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n which_o be_v not_o receive_v in_o our_o church_n in_o the_o year_n 1681_o except_o we_o have_v get_v some_o evidence_n to_o the_o contrary_a sufficient_o satisfy_v our_o mind_n second_o as_o for_o the_o creed_n lord_n prayer_n and_o ten_o commandment_n your_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o variety_n of_o man_n exposition_n of_o they_o be_v far_o from_o the_o purpose_n for_o since_o we_o be_v persuade_v that_o the_o author_n or_o penman_n of_o they_o neither_o intend_a nor_o yet_o deliver_v any_o thing_n in_o they_o but_o truth_n and_o that_o their_o expression_n be_v authentic_a we_o be_v bind_v to_o embrace_v and_o receive_v they_o notwithstanding_o of_o the_o variety_n of_o interpretation_n which_o man_n give_v of_o they_o neither_o be_v it_o lawful_a to_o we_o to_o refuse_v our_o subscription_n or_o assent_v to_o they_o whatsoever_o be_v the_o judgement_n or_o assent_n of_o those_o who_o require_v it_o of_o we_o be_v alwise_o bind_v to_o acknowledge_v the_o infallible_a authority_n of_o they_o even_o when_o we_o doubt_v of_o the_o true_a meaning_n of_o they_o three_o as_o for_o any_o of_o these_o late_a confession_n of_o church_n if_o the_o case_n be_v such_o as_o now_o it_o be_v in_o this_o particular_a of_o this_o late_a covenant_n that_o be_v if_o we_o be_v not_o bind_v by_o any_o stand_a law_n to_o subscrive_v it_o and_o if_o it_o be_v so_o liable_a to_o the_o variety_n of_o interpretation_n that_o it_o may_v probable_o import_v that_o which_o we_o think_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o truth_n and_o if_o these_o who_o require_v our_o subscription_n be_v in_o our_o judgement_n opposer_n of_o the_o truth_n in_o any_o point_n contain_v in_o that_o confession_n and_o may_v make_v advantage_n of_o our_o subscription_n alleadgeing_n that_o we_o be_v tie_v by_o it_o to_o consent_v to_o their_o doctrine_n or_o practice_n we_o may_v just_o in_o such_o a_o case_n deny_v our_o subscription_n to_o that_o confession_n for_o the_o ambiguity_n of_o it_o and_o much_o more_o may_v desire_v those_o who_o urge_v we_o to_o subscrive_v it_o to_o declare_v unto_o we_o before_o we_o give_v our_o subscription_n whether_o or_o not_o that_o confession_n in_o their_o judgement_n will_v tie_v we_o to_o their_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n 23._o last_o of_o all_o in_o modesty_n as_o you_o say_v but_o with_o a_o jest_a compliment_n you_o present_v unto_o we_o a_o dish_n of_o our_o own_o dress_n you_o mean_v the_o like_a argument_n ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la which_o be_v this_o the_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n which_o be_v not_o abjure_v in_o the_o negative_a confession_n be_v not_o abjure_v in_o this_o late_a covenant_n but_o the_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n which_o be_v conclude_v in_o pearth_n assembly_n be_v not_o abjure_v as_o you_o say_v in_o the_o negative_a confession_n make_v ann_n 1581._o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o abjure_v in_o this_o
late_a covenant_n the_o first_o proposition_n as_o you_o say_v be_v evident_a because_o in_o the_o late_a covenant_n we_o be_v bind_v no_o far_o concern_v the_o negative_a confession_n but_o to_o keep_v it_o inviolable_a and_o therefore_o what_o rite_n be_v not_o abjure_v there_o be_v not_o abjure_v here_o likewise_o you_o say_v that_o the_o second_o proposition_n can_v no_o be_v deny_v by_o we_o in_o respect_n these_o twenty_o year_n by-gone_a we_o have_v think_v ourselves_o free_a of_o perjury_n notwithstanding_o the_o of_o oath_n make_v 1581._o and_o of_o our_o conform_v ourselves_o to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o pearth_n good_a brethren_n you_o have_v retort_v this_o argument_n very_o weak_o upon_o we_o for_o first_o we_o flat_o deny_v the_o major_a of_o your_o syllogism_n and_o withal_o do_v repel_v the_o confirmation_n of_o it_o for_o although_o pearth_n article_n be_v not_o abjure_v in_o the_o late_a covenant_n in_o so_o far_o as_o it_o renew_v the_o negative_a confession_n yet_o they_o may_v be_v and_o as_o it_o be_v already_o prove_v they_o be_v abjure_v in_o that_o other_o part_n of_o your_o late_a covenant_n where_o you_o vow_v and_o promise_n to_o recover_v the_o liberty_n and_o purity_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o it_o be_v establish_v and_o profess_v before_o the_o foresay_a novation_n next_o as_o for_o your_o minor_n or_o second_o proposition_n we_o suspend_v our_o judgement_n of_o it_o until_o we_o be_v better_o inform_v and_o advise_v doubt_v as_o we_o say_v before_o concern_v the_o meaning_n of_o those_o part_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n which_o concern_v matter_n of_o rite_n or_o ceremony_n neither_o do_v the_o confirmation_n of_o your_o minor_a trouble_n we_o for_o we_o have_v think_v ourselves_o free_a of_o perjury_n these_o twenty_o year_n by-gone_a not_o for_o any_o certain_a persuasion_n which_o we_o have_v that_o pearth_n article_n be_v not_o abjure_v in_o the_o old_a covenant_n but_o because_o we_o do_v not_o personal_o swear_v that_o covenant_n and_o be_v not_o tie_v to_o it_o by_o the_o oath_n of_o those_o who_o do_v subscrive_v it_o which_o we_o be_v ready_a to_o demonstrate_v by_o irrefragable_a argument_n you_o see_v then_o your_o argument_n retort_v upon_o we_o pierce_v we_o not_o at_o all_o and_o the_o reader_n may_v perceive_v that_o our_o argument_n have_v be_v so_o forcible_o throw_v upon_o you_o that_o you_o have_v not_o take_v upon_o you_o to_o answer_v any_o part_n of_o it_o if_o you_o have_v have_v evidence_n of_o the_o truth_n for_o you_o you_o will_v not_o only_o have_v retort_v our_o argument_n but_o also_o by_o answer_v it_o punctual_o show_v that_o it_o strait_v not_o you_o and_o if_o you_o have_v be_v exact_a resolver_n you_o will_v not_o have_v go_v about_o to_o have_v satisfy_v we_o with_o a_o naked_a argument_n in_o contrarium_fw-la 24._o before_o we_o leave_v this_o point_n that_o it_o may_v be_v know_v to_o all_o what_o reason_n we_o have_v to_o insist_v in_o this_o our_o argument_n ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la and_o that_o we_o have_v propon_v it_o not_o to_o catch_v advantage_n of_o you_o but_o to_o get_v satisfaction_n to_o our_o own_o mind_n concern_v the_o covenant_n and_o your_o sincerity_n in_o urge_v we_o to_o subscrive_v it_o we_o will_v collect_v out_o of_o that_o which_o have_v be_v already_o say_v some_o interrogatory_n which_o we_o pray_v you_o to_o answer_v punctual_o if_o you_o intend_v to_o give_v we_o satisfaction_n the_o first_o be_v whether_o or_o not_o your_o declaration_n of_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o late_a covenant_n to_o wit_n that_o it_o extend_v not_o itself_o to_o the_o abjuration_n of_o pearth_n article_n be_v not_o only_a vera_fw-la true_a in_o itself_o but_o also_o verax_fw-la that_o be_v consonant_n to_o your_o mind_n and_o to_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o chief_a contriver_n of_o it_o the_o reason_n wherefore_o we_o propone_v this_o question_n you_o will_v perceive_v by_o these_o that_o follow_v second_o see_v you_o and_o other_o the_o chief_a recommender_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n have_v be_v ever_o of_o this_o mind_n that_o pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n be_v abjure_v in_o it_o we_o ask_v whether_o you_o all_o tie_v yourselves_o by_o this_o late_a covenant_n to_o the_o inviolable_a observation_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n have_v tie_v yourselves_o to_o it_o in_o all_o the_o particular_a point_n which_o you_o conceive_v to_o be_v contain_v in_o it_o or_o only_o in_o some_o of_o they_o do_v you_o by_o mental_a reservation_n except_o any_o part_n of_o that_o old_a covenant_n or_o in_o particular_a do_v you_o except_o that_o part_n of_o it_o in_o the_o which_o perpetual_a continuance_n in_o the_o doctrine_n and_o discipline_n of_o this_o church_n be_v promise_v or_o if_o that_o part_n be_v not_o except_v do_v you_o put_v any_o new_a gloss_n upon_o it_o which_o it_o have_v not_o before_o and_o if_o you_o do_v not_o whether_o or_o not_o you_o renew_v the_o oath_n of_o perpetual_a observation_n of_o the_o doctrine_n and_o discipline_n of_o this_o church_n as_o it_o be_v anno_fw-la 1581._o have_v not_o only_o real_o but_o also_o according_a to_o your_o own_o conception_n of_o that_o part_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n abjure_v all_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n add_v to_o the_o discipline_n of_o this_o church_n since_o the_o foresay_a year_n and_o consequent_o the_o article_n of_o pearth_n and_o episcopacy_n three_o see_v you_o so_o confident_o aver_v that_o pearth_n article_n be_v abjure_v in_o the_o old_a covenant_n how_o can_v you_o deny_v they_o to_o be_v abjure_v in_o the_o new_a covenant_n except_o you_o acknowledge_v a_o substantial_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o old_a and_o new_a covenant_n four_o if_o you_o grant_v that_o they_o be_v real_o and_o indeed_o abjure_v in_o the_o late_a covenant_n how_o can_v you_o faithful_o and_o sincere_o say_v to_o we_o or_o to_o any_o other_o that_o they_o be_v not_o abjure_v in_o it_o five_o how_o can_v you_o and_o all_o other_o who_o with_o you_o have_v real_o and_o also_o according_a to_o your_o own_o conception_n of_o the_o old_a covenant_n abjure_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n by_o renew_v of_o it_o voice_n free_o in_o the_o intend_a assembly_n concern_v these_o thing_n see_v you_o be_v tie_v by_o your_o oath_n to_o condemn_v and_o abrogate_v they_o six_o how_o can_v we_o concur_v with_o you_o in_o a_o oath_n wherein_o we_o be_v infallible_o persuade_v that_o you_o have_v abjure_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n seven_o if_o we_o concur_v with_o you_o in_o that_o oath_n will_v you_o not_o as_o we_o object_v in_o our_o reply_n but_o you_o have_v not_o answer_v it_o think_v we_o bind_v by_o our_o oath_n to_o condemn_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n and_o will_v not_o you_o think_v yourselves_o bind_v in_o conscience_n to_o tell_v we_o and_o all_o other_o that_o which_o you_o think_v to_o be_v truth_n and_o may_v make_v much_o for_o your_o cause_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o word_n of_o the_o covenant_n have_v but_o one_o sense_n and_o that_o in_o that_o one_o sense_n pearth_n article_n be_v abjure_v 25._o you_o and_o all_o other_o may_v now_o see_v how_o injust_o you_o say_v that_o we_o will_v have_v the_o covenanter_n against_o their_o intention_n and_o whether_o they_o will_v or_o not_o to_o disallow_v and_o condemn_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopal_a government_n lest_o they_o be_v try_v in_o a_o free_a assembly_n god_n know_v how_o far_o we_o detest_v all_o such_o deal_n and_o this_o vindication_n of_o our_o two_o argument_n we_o add_v also_o a_o three_o but_o you_o have_v swallow_v it_o bring_v by_o we_o to_o prove_v that_o pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n be_v abjure_v in_o your_o late_a covenant_n will_v sufficient_o clear_v we_o of_o this_o imputation_n to_o all_o unpartial_a reader_n 26._o we_o do_v not_o only_o allege_v as_o you_o say_v that_o your_o supplication_n to_o his_o majesty_n be_v full_o satisfy_v by_o the_o last_o proclamation_n but_o ground_v a_o argument_n upon_o your_o answer_n to_o our_o four_o demand_n we_o reason_v thus_o if_o in_o all_o your_o supplication_n you_o have_v only_o seek_v the_o remove_n of_o the_o service_n book_n book_n of_o canon_n and_o new_a high_a commission_n not_o complain_v of_o any_o other_o novation_n already_o introduce_v and_o see_v his_o majesty_n have_v grant_v this_o unto_o you_o what_o reason_n have_v you_o to_o say_v that_o his_o majesty_n have_v not_o satisfy_v your_o supplication_n this_o our_o argument_n you_o have_v turn_v to_o a_o mere_a alleadgeance_n lest_o you_o shall_v have_v trouble_v yourselves_o with_o answer_v it_o whether_o or_o not_o we_o may_v forbear_v the_o practice_n of_o pearth_n article_n until_o they_o be_v try_v in_o a_o free_a assembly_n 27._o we_o come_v now_o to_o the_o consideration_n of_o that_o which_o your_o covenant_n by_o your_o own_o confession_n tie_v we_o to_o
commandment_n of_o our_o superior_n 45._o again_o you_o say_v that_o when_o scandal_n of_o weak_a brethren_n may_v be_v fear_v the_o precept_n of_o obedience_n be_v not_o obligatory_a in_o respect_n the_o thing_n command_v by_o our_o superior_n although_o it_o be_v in_o itself_o lawful_a yet_o it_o become_v unexpedient_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o scandal_n which_o may_v follow_v upon_o it_o now_o say_v you_o the_o ordinance_n of_o our_o superior_n be_v not_o obligatory_a when_o the_o thing_n command_v by_o they_o be_v unexpedient_a we_o on_o the_o contrary_a say_v that_o when_o our_o superior_n require_v of_o we_o obedience_n to_o their_o lawful_a commandment_n the_o precept_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n be_v not_o obligatory_a in_o respect_n we_o ought_v not_o for_o scandal_n causeless_o take_v omit_v necessary_a duty_n which_o god_n in_o his_o law_n require_v of_o we_o in_o which_o number_n we_o most_o just_o do_v reckon_v the_o duty_n of_o obedience_n which_o we_o owe_v to_o the_o lawful_a commandment_n of_o our_o superior_n 46._o as_o for_o that_o which_o you_o say_v that_o when_o scandal_n may_v be_v take_v at_o the_o do_v of_o the_o thing_n command_v than_o the_o thing_n command_v become_v inexpedient_a and_o so_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v obey_v that_o you_o be_v not_o more_o deceive_v by_o this_o error_n we_o pray_v you_o mark_v that_o a_o thing_n comcomand_v by_o our_o superior_n in_o church_n or_o policy_n may_v be_v two_o way_n inexpedient_a to_o wit_n either_o in_o respect_n of_o some_o particular_a person_n who_o through_o weakness_n or_o malice_n do_v stumble_v at_o it_o or_o else_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o body_n in_o general_a because_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o order_n decency_n and_o edification_n if_o the_o thing_n command_v be_v inexpedient_a the_o first_o way_n only_o we_o may_v indeed_o in_o such_o a_o case_n for_o eschew_v the_o scandal_n of_o the_o weak_a forbear_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o thing_n command_v hîc_fw-la &_o nunc_fw-la in_o some_o particular_a place_n and_o time_n provide_v alwise_o we_o do_v this_o without_o offence_n of_o our_o superior_n and_o without_o the_o scandal_n of_o other_o who_o by_o our_o forbearance_n may_v be_v make_v to_o vilipend_v the_o authority_n of_o law_n but_o we_o can_v not_o in_o such_o a_o case_n total_o and_o absolute_o deny_v obedience_n to_o a_o law_n as_o we_o have_v already_o prove_v neither_o be_v your_o argument_n bring_v to_o the_o contrary_a valide_fw-la in_o respect_n we_o aught_o more_o to_o look_v to_o the_o utility_n and_o benefit_n which_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n may_v receive_v by_o the_o thing_n command_v and_o by_o our_o obedience_n to_o our_o superioure_n then_o to_o the_o harm_n which_o some_o particular_a person_n may_v receive_v thereby_o 47._o if_o the_o thing_n command_v be_v in_o our_o private_a judgement_n inexpedient_a the_o second_o way_n we_o ought_v not_o for_o that_o to_o deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o law_n of_o the_o church_n for_o when_o the_o inexpediency_n of_o a_o thing_n be_v questionable_a and_o probable_a argument_n may_v be_v bring_v pro_fw-la and_o contrae_fw-la concern_v the_o expediencie_n of_o it_o we_o have_v sufficient_a warrant_n to_o practice_v it_o if_o the_o church_n by_o her_o public_a decree_n have_v declare_v that_o she_o think_v it_o expedient_a your_o error_n who_o be_v of_o the_o contrary_a mind_n be_v very_o dangerous_a and_o may_v prove_v most_o pernicious_a to_o the_o church_n for_o it_o make_v the_o church_n obnoxious_a to_o perpetual_a schism_n and_o disconformity_n in_o matter_n of_o external_a policy_n in_o respect_n man_n ordinary_o be_v divyde_v in_o judgement_n concern_v the_o expediencie_n of_o these_o thing_n suppon_o then_o that_o in_o a_o synod_n consist_v of_o a_o hundred_o pastor_n threescore_o of_o they_o think_v this_o or_o that_o particular_a ceremony_n to_o be_v expedient_a for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o plurality_n of_o their_o voice_n make_v a_o act_n to_o be_v conclude_v for_o the_o establish_n of_o it_o shall_v the_o remnant_n fourâ—y_n who_o be_v of_o the_o contrary_a judgement_n deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o act_n of_o the_o synod_n because_o they_o be_v persuade_v that_o the_o thing_n conclude_v be_v inexpedient_a and_o shall_v they_o by_o do_v so_o rend_v the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n true_o if_o we_o be_v all_o of_o your_o mind_n we_o shall_v never_o have_v peace_n nor_o unity_n in_o this_o church_n you_o will_v say_v perhaps_o that_o this_o our_o argument_n be_v popish_a and_o lead_v man_n to_o acquiesce_v without_o trial_n or_o examination_n in_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n we_o answer_v that_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n the_o truth_n whereof_o may_v be_v infallible_o conclude_v out_o of_o god_n word_n we_o ought_v not_o without_o trial_n to_o acquiesce_v into_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o this_o respect_n we_o dissent_v from_o the_o papist_n who_o ascrive_v too_o much_o to_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n as_o if_o their_o decree_n be_v infallible_a but_o in_o matter_n of_o policy_n if_o we_o be_v certain_a that_o in_o their_o own_o nature_n they_o be_v indifferent_a and_o if_o the_o expediencie_n of_o they_o only_o be_v call_v in_o question_n see_v no_o certain_a conclusion_n concern_v their_o expediency_n can_v be_v infallible_o draw_v out_o of_o god_n word_n which_o have_v not_o determine_v whether_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a rite_n be_v agreeable_a to_o order_n decency_n and_o edification_n we_o ought_v to_o acquiesoe_n into_o the_o decree_n or_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n although_o it_o be_v not_o of_o infallible_a authority_n and_o that_o partly_o because_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o otherwise_o we_o can_v agree_v in_o one_o conclusion_n concern_v matter_n of_o this_o nature_n and_o partly_o because_o if_o we_o deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n in_o such_o matter_n our_o disobedience_n shall_v prove_v far_o more_o unexpedient_a and_o hurtful_a to_o the_o church_n than_o our_o obedience_n can_v be_v 48._o see_v then_o whatsoever_o you_o have_v hitherto_o say_v concern_v the_o question_n propon_v by_o we_o may_v be_v easy_o answer_v with_o a_o retortion_n of_o the_o argument_n upon_o yourselves_o that_o we_o may_v eschew_v all_o such_o logomachie_n we_o must_v take_v some_o other_o course_n and_o try_v which_o of_o these_o two_o precept_n be_v in_o itself_o of_o great_a moment_n and_o obligation_n for_o thence_o we_o may_v collect_v which_o of_o these_o two_o precept_n do_v obliedge_v we_o in_o the_o case_n foresay_a the_o other_o give_v place_n to_o it_o and_o not_o obliedge_v we_o at_o all_o in_o that_o case_n if_o you_o say_v that_o the_o precept_n which_o forbid_v we_o to_o do_v that_o whereby_o our_o weak_a brother_n may_v be_v scandalize_v be_v in_o itself_o more_o obligatory_a or_o do_v more_o strict_o tie_v we_o to_o the_o obedience_n of_o it_o as_o be_v of_o great_a moment_n you_o must_v bring_v a_o solid_a reason_n for_o you_o which_o we_o think_v you_o will_v hardly_o find_v we_o know_v you_o say_v that_o the_o precept_n concern_v scandal_n be_v more_o obligatory_a and_o of_o great_a moment_n because_o it_o concern_v the_o loss_n of_o the_o soul_n of_o a_o brother_n but_o this_o reason_n be_v not_o valide_fw-la first_o in_o respect_n our_o brother_n if_o he_o be_v scandalize_v by_o our_o obedience_n to_o our_o superioure_n sin_v not_o by_o our_o default_n who_o do_v obey_v for_o our_o carriage_n in_o give_v obedience_n be_v such_o as_o may_v rather_o edify_v our_o brother_n second_o the_o precept_n which_o forbid_v disobedience_n concern_v the_o loss_n both_o of_o our_o own_o soul_n and_o of_o the_o soul_n of_o other_o who_o may_v be_v entyse_v to_o that_o sin_n by_o our_o deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o lawful_a commandment_n of_o our_o superioure_n three_o if_o that_o precept_n of_o eschew_v scandal_n causeless_o take_v do_v so_o strict_o obliedge_v we_o when_o our_o superioure_n require_v obedience_n of_o we_o it_o may_v happen_v that_o a_o man_n shall_v be_v in_o a_o inextricable_a perplexity_n not_o know_v whether_o he_o shall_v obey_v or_o deny_v obedience_n to_o the_o commandment_n of_o his_o superioure_n in_o respect_n he_o may_v fear_v the_o scandal_n of_o the_o weak_a whether_o he_o obey_v or_o deny_v obedience_n for_o as_o we_o say_v before_o many_o be_v most_o ready_a to_o be_v scandalize_v by_o our_o deny_v obedience_n to_o our_o superioure_n in_o thing_n lawful_a and_o otherwise_o expedient_a and_o that_o because_o we_o by_o nature_n be_v most_o unwilling_a to_o be_v curb_v and_o to_o have_v our_o liberty_n restrain_v by_o the_o law_n of_o our_o superioure_n for_o this_o cause_n as_o calvin_n judicious_o note_v instit._fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 8._o §_o 35._o god_n to_o allure_v we_o to_o the_o duty_n of_o obedience_n to_o our_o superioure_n call_v all_o
now_o we_o think_v they_o to_o be_v so_o necessary_a that_o although_o the_o general_a assembly_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v discharge_v they_o we_o behove_v still_o to_o practice_v they_o we_o answer_v first_o that_o the_o assembly_n of_o pearth_n have_v determine_v nothing_o of_o the_o indifferency_n or_o necessity_n of_o these_o thing_n second_o if_o any_o who_o allow_v these_o article_n do_v at_o that_o time_n in_o their_o discourse_n and_o speech_n call_v they_o indifferent_a they_o mean_v only_o that_o in_o the_o celebration_n of_o these_o sacrament_n the_o circumstance_n of_o place_n and_o time_n be_v thing_n indifferent_a of_o their_o own_o nature_n or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o that_o we_o be_v not_o so_o tie_v to_o the_o administration_n of_o they_o in_o the_o church_n and_o at_o time_n appoint_v for_o sermon_n but_o we_o may_v celebrate_v they_o in_o private_a house_n and_o at_o other_o time_n but_o judicious_a and_o learned_a man_n even_o than_o think_v the_o deny_v of_o these_o sacrament_n to_o person_n who_o can_v not_o come_v or_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o church_n to_o be_v a_o restrain_v of_o the_o mean_n of_o grace_n altogether_o unwarrandable_a by_o god_n word_n whence_o you_o may_v collect_v whether_o or_o not_o they_o think_v it_o to_o be_v unlawful_a three_o you_o have_v no_o warrant_n from_o our_o reply_n to_o say_v that_o we_o will_v not_o abstain_v from_o private_a baptism_n and_o communion_n although_o our_o national_a assembly_n shall_v discharge_v they_o for_o as_o we_o be_v very_o unwilling_a to_o omit_v any_o necessary_a duty_n of_o our_o call_v so_o we_o carry_v a_o singular_a respect_n to_o lawful_a authority_n and_o to_o the_o peace_n and_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n abhor_v schism_n as_o the_o very_a pest_n of_o the_o church_n but_o of_o this_o we_o shall_v speak_v hereafter_o in_o the_o thirteen_o duply_v 53_o next_o you_o say_v if_o we_o have_v the_o same_o judgement_n of_o kneel_v in_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o communion_n and_o of_o festival_n day_n it_o come_v to_o pass_v among_o we_o which_o have_v be_v incident_a to_o the_o church_n in_o former_a age_n that_o thing_n have_v be_v first_o bring_v in_o as_o indifferent_a then_o urge_v as_o necessary_a certain_o brethren_n none_o be_v so_o guilty_a of_o this_o as_o yourselves_o and_o your_o associate_n for_o you_o have_v now_o make_v some_o thing_n to_o be_v esteem_v necessary_a by_o your_o follower_n which_o have_v be_v account_v indifferent_a not_o only_o since_o the_o reformation_n but_o these_o fifteen_o hundred_o year_n by-gone_a and_o in_o some_o other_o thing_n which_o the_o ancient_a church_n do_v wise_o forbid_v you_o do_v now_o make_v the_o liberty_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o consist_v as_o for_o we_o we_o stand_v as_o we_o stand_v before_o and_o do_v yet_o think_v kneel_v in_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o five_o festival_n day_n to_o be_v rite_n indifferent_a in_o their_o own_o nature_n but_o indeed_o very_o profitable_a and_o edificative_a if_o pastor_n will_v do_v their_o duty_n in_o make_v their_o people_n sensible_a of_o the_o lawfulness_n &_o expediency_n of_o they_o 54._o we_o be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n concern_v confirmation_n which_o calvin_n write_v upon_o hebr._n 6._o 2._o acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v undoubted_o deliver_v to_o the_o church_n by_o the_o apostle_n and_o with_o the_o same_o author_n in_o the_o four_o book_n of_o his_o institut_n cap._n 19_o §_o 14._o we_o wish_v that_o the_o use_n of_o it_o be_v again_o restore_v so_o far_o be_v we_o from_o that_o partial_a deal_n with_o the_o article_n of_o pearth_n which_o you_o object_v unto_o we_o what_o have_v move_v our_o most_o reverend_a prelate_n to_o abstain_v hitherto_o from_o the_o practise_n of_o it_o we_o know_v not_o they_o can_v themselves_o best_o satisfy_v you_o in_o this_o point_n and_o we_o modest_o judge_v that_o this_o omission_n have_v proceed_v from_o weighty_a and_o regardable_a cause_n it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o we_o to_o have_v a_o care_n of_o our_o own_o duty_n in_o our_o particular_a station_n but_o the_o urge_n and_o press_v of_o that_o practice_n upon_o the_o bishop_n require_v high_a authority_n then_o we_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n you_o know_v the_o bishop_n never_o disclaim_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o act_n of_o pearth_n concern_v confirmation_n or_o of_o any_o other_o of_o these_o act_n as_o you_o have_v do_v who_o have_v be_v hitherto_o profess_v and_o avow_a disobeyer_n of_o they_o all_o wherefore_o we_o wish_v you_o hereafter_o not_o to_o bring_v this_o omission_n of_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o confirmation_n as_o a_o argument_n for_o that_o forbearance_n of_o pearth_n article_n which_o you_o require_v of_o we_o for_o there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o omission_n of_o a_o duty_n command_v by_o a_o law_n and_o a_o avow_a or_o profess_v yea_o swear_a disobedience_n of_o the_o law_n 55._o last_o of_o all_o whereas_o you_o say_v that_o we_o by_o mantain_v the_o necessity_n of_o private_a baptism_n and_o communion_n do_v condemn_v the_o practice_n of_o this_o our_o church_n from_o the_o reformation_n till_o pearth_n assembly_n and_o put_v no_o small_a guiltiness_n upon_o other_o reform_a church_n who_o use_v not_o private_a baptism_n and_o communion_n at_o all_o but_o abstain_v from_o they_o as_o dangerous_a we_o answer_v that_o we_o have_v in_o all_o modesty_n propon_v our_o own_o judgement_n concern_v private_a baptism_n and_o private_a communion_n nominem_fw-la judicaâ—tes_fw-la as_o cyprian_n say_v of_o old_a in_o consilio_fw-la carthag_n in_o praefat_fw-la nor_o take_v upon_o we_o to_o censure_v or_o condemn_v the_o practice_n either_o of_o this_o church_n in_o time_n precede_v pearth_n assembly_n or_o of_o other_o reform_a church_n we_o can_v not_o indeed_o deny_v but_o we_o dissent_v from_o they_o and_o if_o this_o be_v a_o condemn_v of_o they_o we_o may_v no_o less_o just_o say_v to_o you_o that_o you_o condemn_v the_o practice_n and_o doctrine_n not_o only_o of_o our_o reformer_n in_o the_o particular_n mention_v before_o in_o this_o same_o dup_o but_o also_o of_o diverse_a reform_a church_n and_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n as_o we_o declare_v in_o our_o six_o demand_n and_o shall_v again_o speak_v of_o it_o in_o our_o six_o duply_v a_o defence_n of_o our_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n concern_v the_o celebration_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n in_o private_a place_n 56._o you_o desire_v we_o wise_o to_o consider_v whether_o the_o desire_n which_o our_o people_n have_v of_o baptism_n and_o communion_n in_o time_n of_o sickness_n be_v not_o occasion_v by_o prevail_v of_o popery_n and_o through_o a_o superstitious_a conceit_n that_o people_n have_v of_o these_o sacrament_n as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n we_o be_v loath_a to_o come_v short_a of_o you_o in_o duty_n of_o charity_n especial_o in_o good_a wish_n and_o therefore_o we_o likewise_o wish_v you_o wise_o to_o consider_v whether_o the_o neglect_n of_o these_o sacrament_n in_o the_o time_n of_o sickness_n which_o be_v in_o many_o part_n of_o the_o kingdom_n proceed_v not_o from_o some_o want_n of_o a_o sufficient_a knowledge_n and_o due_a esteem_n of_o the_o fruit_n of_o these_o high_a and_o heavenly_a mystery_n 57_o it_o be_v well_o that_o you_o acknowledge_v that_o we_o minister_v these_o sacrament_n in_o private_a as_o necessary_a only_o by_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n but_o withal_o you_o conceive_v that_o our_o people_n imagine_v or_o seem_v to_o imagine_v they_o to_o be_v so_o necessary_a mean_n as_o that_o god_n have_v tie_v his_o grace_n to_o they_o we_o desire_v you_o to_o judge_v charitable_o of_o those_o who_o be_v unknown_a to_o you_o and_o withal_o we_o declare_v that_o neither_o we_o do_v teach_v our_o people_n nor_o do_v they_o think_v for_o aught_o we_o do_v ever_o know_v that_o baptism_n be_v so_o necessary_a a_o mean_a unto_o salvation_n that_o without_o it_o god_n can_v not_o or_o will_v not_o say_v any_o yea_o on_o the_o contrary_a we_o be_v confident_a that_o when_o baptism_n be_v earnest_o seek_v for_o or_o unfeigned_o desire_v and_o yet_o can_v not_o be_v have_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o parent_n and_o of_o the_o church_n be_v accept_v by_o god_n in_o stead_n of_o the_o ordinary_a mean_a the_o use_n whereof_o be_v hinder_v by_o unavoidable_a necessity_n and_o so_o in_o this_o we_o depart_v from_o the_o 32._o rigid_a tenet_n of_o papist_n on_o the_o other_o part_n we_o likewise_o teach_v and_o according_o our_o people_n learn_v that_o baptism_n be_v the_o ordinary_a mean_a of_o our_o entrance_n into_o the_o church_n and_o of_o our_o regeneration_n to_o the_o use_n whereof_o god_n by_o his_o commandment_n have_v tie_v we_o 58._o if_o the_o commandment_n of_o our_o saviour_n matth._n 28._o 19_o go_v you_o therefore_o and_o teach_v all_o
that_o your_o answer_n to_o our_o first_o exception_n take_v from_o the_o obedience_n due_a to_o authority_n and_o from_o our_o judgement_n concern_v the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o die_a person_n in_o private_a place_n have_v not_o give_v satisfaction_n 2._o we_o ask_v of_o you_o in_o our_o five_o demand_n how_o we_o can_v subscrive_v the_o negative_a confession_n as_o it_o be_v propound_v by_o you_o without_o contradict_v the_o positive_a confession_n approve_v by_o parliament_n hold_v aâ—no_fw-mi 1567._o since_o the_o positive_a confession_n chap._n 21._o declare_v that_o rite_n be_v changeable_a according_a to_o the_o exigency_n of_o time_n and_o consequent_o that_o no_o perpetual_a law_n may_v or_o aught_o to_o be_v make_v of_o they_o and_o the_o negative_a confession_n make_v a_o perpetual_a law_n concern_v the_o external_a râ—â—es_n of_o the_o church_n at_o least_o according_a to_o your_o judgement_n who_o urge_v the_o subsâ—riving_n of_o this_o covenant_n and_o confession_n upon_o we_o we_o urge_v fâ—râ—her_o in_o our_o reply_n that_o the_o late_a covenant_n bind_v we_o to_o the_o old_a covenant_n make_v anno_fw-la 1581._o for_o by_o your_o late_a covenant_n you_o profess_v yourselves_o bind_v to_o keep_v the_o foreâ—aid_n national_a oath_n as_o you_o call_v it_o inviolable_a and_o that_o old_a covenant_n or_o oath_n bind_v we_o to_o the_o discipline_n which_o be_v then_o and_o that_o discipline_n comprehend_v all_o the_o external_a rite_n of_o it_o as_o you_o have_v in_o all_o your_o write_n profess_v especial_o in_o that_o late_a book_n entitle_v the_o dispute_n against_o the_o english_a popish_a ceremony_n whence_o in_o your_o sermon_n and_o print_v book_n since_o the_o assembly_n of_o pearth_n you_o have_v be_v still_o accuse_v we_o of_o perjury_n so_o from_o the_o first_o to_o the_o last_o the_o laâ—e_a covenant_n bind_v we_o to_o the_o policy_n which_o be_v then_o and_o consequent_o make_v a_o perpetual_a law_n concern_v the_o rite_n of_o the_o church_n as_o if_o they_o be_v unchangeable_a 3._o your_o answer_n to_o this_o argument_n be_v not_o sufficient_a nor_o to_o the_o purpose_n 1._o you_o put_v off_o without_o any_o answer_n that_o which_o we_o allege_v out_o of_o a_o dispute_n against_o the_o english_a popish_a ceremony_n and_o in_o stead_n of_o answer_v wish_v that_o what_o we_o have_v thence_o or_o from_o any_o other_o treatise_n of_o that_o kind_n be_v keep_v to_o another_o time_n pardon_v we_o that_o we_o wish_v great_a ingenuity_n and_o a_o more_o direct_a answer_n consider_v the_o word_n of_o that_o treatise_n before_o cite_v part._n 4._o cap._n 8._o sect._n 8._o no_o man_n among_o we_o can_v certain_o know_v that_o the_o discipline_n mean_v and_o speak_v of_o in_o the_o oath_n by_o those_o that_o swear_v it_o comprehend_v not_o under_o it_o those_o point_n of_o discipline_n for_o which_o we_o now_o contend_v and_o which_o this_o church_n have_v in_o use_n at_o the_o swear_n of_o the_o oath_n shall_v we_o then_o put_v the_o breach_n of_o the_o oath_n in_o a_o fair_a hazard_n god_n forbid_v the_o same_o we_o find_v to_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o other_o also_o who_o have_v oppose_v the_o article_n of_o pearth_n and_o episcopal_a government_n since_o therefore_o we_o desire_v to_o be_v resolve_v concern_v the_o right_a meaning_n of_o the_o negative_a confession_n lest_o by_o it_o we_o condradict_v the_o positive_a confession_n approve_v in_o parliament_n have_v we_o not_o reason_n to_o propone_v this_o difficulty_n to_o you_o who_o require_v our_o subscription_n and_o come_v hither_o to_o resolve_v our_o scruple_n if_o you_o condemn_v the_o judgement_n of_o these_o your_o brethren_n who_o be_v author_n of_o these_o treatise_n why_o do_v you_o not_o open_o profess_v that_o you_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o late_a covenant_n disallow_v it_o if_o you_o do_v approve_v it_o as_o we_o have_v great_a reason_n to_o think_v you_o do_v since_o you_o have_v still_o oppose_v the_o article_n of_o pearth_n and_o episcopacy_n and_o do_v express_o refer_v we_o to_o those_o treatise_n in_o your_o nine_o answer_n how_o do_v you_o not_o see_v that_o with_o a_o good_a conscience_n you_o can_v not_o require_v we_o to_o swear_v and_o subscrive_v that_o which_o you_o know_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o our_o mind_n remember_v we_o pray_v you_o the_o word_n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n in_o the_o place_n before_o cite_v put_v the_o case_n it_o be_v doubtful_a and_o questionable_a what_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o word_n discipline_n in_o the_o oath_n yet_o pars_fw-la tutior_fw-la the_o safe_a way_n be_v to_o be_v choose_v which_o be_v affirm_v there_o to_o be_v this_o that_o the_o point_v practise_v by_o we_o be_v abjure_v in_o the_o negative_a confession_n 4._o second_o whereas_o you_o say_v that_o none_o of_o you_o will_v refuse_v to_o swear_v the_o short_a confession_n because_o we_o have_v expound_v some_o article_n of_o it_o contrary_a to_o your_o mind_n we_o reply_v that_o this_o answer_n satisfy_v not_o for_o you_o swear_v the_o negative_a confession_n notwithstanding_o of_o the_o contrary_a interpretation_n of_o they_o who_o differ_v in_o judgement_n from_o you_o show_v not_o how_o the_o apparent_a contradiction_n betwixt_o it_o and_o the_o positive_a confession_n object_v by_o we_o be_v reconcile_v by_o you_o the_o propounder_n and_o urger_n of_o it_o moreover_o if_o we_o do_v urge_v you_o to_o subscrive_v the_o negative_a confession_n when_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n we_o be_v persuade_v that_o our_o interpretation_n of_o the_o article_n thereof_o be_v contrary_a to_o your_o judgement_n we_o be_v bind_v to_o labour_v to_o inform_v your_o judgement_n before_o we_o do_v exact_v your_o oath_n and_o consequent_o by_o the_o law_n of_o charity_n and_o equity_n you_o be_v obliedge_v not_o to_o require_v our_o oath_n till_o first_o you_o do_v that_o which_o be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v our_o judgement_n conform_v to_o you_o which_o as_o yet_o you_o have_v not_o do_v 5._o three_o you_o say_v your_o desire_n be_v that_o both_o of_o we_o keep_v our_o meaning_n of_o the_o negative_a confession_n according_a to_o our_o diverse_a measure_n of_o light_n and_o only_o promise_v forbearance_n which_o you_o say_v we_o may_v do_v because_o that_o we_o think_v the_o point_n controvert_v to_o be_v indifferent_a we_o answer_v that_o you_o still_o flee_v the_o point_n in_o question_n for_o it_o be_v another_o thing_n for_o we_o to_o keep_v our_o meaning_n and_o another_o thing_n for_o we_o to_o swear_v a_o covenant_n when_o we_o be_v not_o persuade_v of_o the_o truth_n thereof_o you_o may_v and_o may_v still_o enjoy_v your_o meaning_n for_o we_o but_o how_o we_o can_v keep_v our_o meaning_n and_o subscrive_v your_o covenant_n we_o see_v not_o since_o we_o think_v the_o one_o repugnant_a to_o the_o other_o neither_o be_v it_o forbearance_n only_o that_o be_v require_v as_o we_o have_v show_v before_o nor_o yet_o can_v we_o swear_v forbearance_n the_o law_n stand_v still_o in_o vigour_n and_o authority_n requyre_v obedience_n last_o we_o think_v not_o all_o the_o point_v controvert_v to_o be_v indifferent_a as_o be_v before_o declare_v 6._o thus_o it_o may_v appear_v how_o you_o have_v deal_v with_o our_o sorite_n as_o you_o call_v it_o the_o like_a deal_n we_o find_v anent_o our_o dilemma_n the_o horn_n whereof_o as_o you_o speak_v you_o labour_v to_o turn_v against_o ourselves_o by_o ask_v to_o which_o of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o distinction_n we_o refer_v pearth_n article_n and_o episcopacy_n if_o say_v you_o they_o be_v abjure_v in_o the_o negative_a confession_n we_o be_v perjure_v for_o the_o practise_n of_o they_o and_o if_o leave_v indifferent_a by_o that_o confession_n we_o may_v notwithstanding_o of_o that_o confession_n forbear_v the_o practice_n of_o they_o first_o your_o question_n be_v not_o pertinent_a for_o the_o distinction_n be_v not_o we_o but_o you_o and_o to_o what_o purpose_n be_v it_o to_o you_o to_o know_v to_o what_o member_n of_o your_o distinction_n we_o refer_v the_o article_n of_o pearth_n and_o episcopacy_n second_o there_o be_v no_o strength_n in_o either_o of_o the_o horn_n of_o your_o dilemma_n for_o by_o turn_v it_o wrong_v you_o have_v make_v it_o your_o own_o the_o one_o horn_n be_v that_o if_o the_o article_n of_o pearth_n and_o episcopacy_n be_v leave_v indifferent_a by_o the_o short_a confession_n we_o may_v forbear_v the_o practice_n of_o they_o first_o this_o meet_v not_o the_o horn_n of_o our_o dilemma_n which_o be_v if_o we_o be_v not_o tie_v by_o the_o negative_a confession_n to_o the_o ommission_n of_o these_o thing_n then_o why_o have_v you_o in_o all_o your_o write_n against_o we_o exprobrate_v to_o we_o perjury_n for_o violate_v of_o the_o oath_n contain_v in_o that_o confession_n to_o this_o no_o word_n by_o you_o be_v answer_v here_o second_o suppone_v these_o
thing_n be_v leave_v indifferent_a by_o the_o negative_a confession_n yet_o may_v we_o not_o forbear_v the_o practice_n of_o they_o because_o since_o that_o confession_n law_n have_v pass_v on_o they_o which_o remain_v in_o vigour_n require_v our_o obedience_n as_o we_o say_v before_o 7._o the_o other_o horn_n of_o your_o dilemma_n be_v that_o if_o these_o point_n be_v abjure_v for_o ever_o before_o pearth_n assembly_n than_o we_o who_o practise_v they_o be_v perjure_v to_o which_o we_o answer_v that_o it_o follow_v not_o for_o we_o never_o do_v swear_v to_o that_o negative_a confession_n and_o therefore_o though_o these_o point_n be_v abjure_v therein_o yet_o be_v we_o free_a from_o all_o guiltiness_n of_o perjury_n and_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n you_o have_v not_o resolve_v how_o he_o who_o be_v persuade_v of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o those_o point_n can_v swear_v the_o negative_a confession_n if_o by_o it_o the_o swearer_n be_v tie_v to_o the_o abjure_v of_o those_o point_n which_o be_v the_o other_o part_n of_o our_o dilemma_n thus_o if_o you_o will_v consider_v right_o you_o may_v perceive_v that_o our_o dilemma_n stand_v unmoved_a with_o the_o horn_n of_o it_o still_o towards_o you_o you_o far_o insinuate_v that_o our_o reason_n be_v not_o solid_a and_o grave_a but_o velitation_n of_o such_o a_o sort_n as_o you_o look_v not_o for_o let_v the_o judicious_a reader_n pronounce_v his_o sentence_n of_o this_o only_o we_o wish_v that_o you_o have_v choose_v rather_o to_o satisfy_v then_o to_o contemn_v our_o reason_n that_o which_o you_o here_o again_o add_v concern_v the_o change_n of_o commissioner_n be_v answer_v in_o our_o four_o duply_v 8._o to_o give_v light_n to_o your_o former_a discourse_n you_o subjoine_v a_o distinction_n of_o discipline_n into_o three_o member_n first_o you_o say_v it_o be_v take_v for_o the_o rule_n of_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o censure_n of_o manner_n by_o office_n bearer_n appoint_v by_o christ_n and_o thus_o you_o say_v it_o be_v unchangeable_a second_o for_o constitution_n of_o counsel_n and_o act_n of_o parliament_n about_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o thus_o you_o say_v it_o be_v alterable_a or_o constant_a according_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o particular_a object_n three_o for_o the_o order_n of_o circumstance_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o all_o action_n divyne_fw-mi and_o humane_a and_o so_o you_o say_v it_o be_v variable_a first_o by_o these_o distinction_n the_o matter_n seem_v rather_o to_o be_v obscure_v then_o clear_v for_o you_o do_v not_o express_v in_o which_o of_o these_o sense_n the_o discipline_n mention_v in_o the_o negative_a confession_n be_v to_o be_v take_v which_o be_v the_o point_n require_v of_o you_o 9_o second_o you_o seem_v by_o this_o distinction_n to_o entangle_v yourselves_o yet_o more_o for_o first_o if_o you_o take_v the_o name_n of_o discipline_n in_o any_o one_o or_o any_o two_o of_o these_o sense_n what_o say_v you_o to_o these_o follow_a word_n of_o your_o dispute_n against_o the_o english_a popish_a ceremmy_n parte_fw-la 4._o cap._n 8._o sect._n 8._o the_o bishop_n do_v but_o needless_o question_n what_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o discipline_n whereof_o the_o oath_n speak_v for_o howsoever_o in_o ecclesiastical_a use_n it_o signify_v often_o time_n that_o policy_n which_o stand_v in_o the_o censure_v of_o manner_n yet_o in_o the_o oath_n it_o must_v be_v take_v in_o the_o large_a sense_n namely_o for_o the_o whole_a policy_n of_o the_o church_n for_o 1._o the_o whole_a policy_n of_o this_o church_n do_v at_o that_o time_n go_v under_o the_o name_n of_o discipline_n and_o those_o two_o book_n wherein_o this_o policy_n be_v contain_v be_v call_v the_o book_n of_o discipline_n and_o without_o all_o doubt_n they_o who_o swear_v the_o oath_n mean_v by_o discipline_n that_o whole_a policy_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v contain_v in_o those_o book_n 10._o second_o when_o that_o little_a confession_n be_v frame_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v only_o by_o presbyter_n and_o not_o by_o bishop_n and_o therefore_o if_o you_o think_v that_o the_o name_n of_o discipline_n in_o that_o confession_n comprehend_v under_o it_o the_o first_o part_n of_o your_o distinction_n which_o as_o we_o conceive_v you_o will_v noâ—_n deny_v you_o may_v easy_o perceive_v that_o we_o be_v urge_v by_o you_o to_o swear_v and_o subscrive_v against_o our_o conscience_n since_o we_o think_v the_o rule_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n which_o then_o be_v to_o be_v changeable_a and_o that_o the_o government_n be_v lawful_o change_v by_o follow_v assembly_n and_o parliament_n from_o presbyter_n to_o bishop_n 11._o three_o if_o these_o constitution_n of_o counsel_n concern_v object_n alterable_a mention_v in_o the_o second_o member_n of_o your_o distinction_n be_v one_o &_o the_o same_o with_o order_v of_o variable_a circumstance_n mention_v in_o the_o three_o member_n why_o have_v you_o distinguish_v the_o one_o from_o the_o other_o but_o if_o they_o be_v different_a than_o you_o grant_v that_o ecclesiastic_a constitution_n may_v 5._o be_v make_v concern_v some_o alterable_a matter_n of_o religion_n which_o be_v not_o bare_a circumstance_n which_o be_v repugnant_a to_o your_o ordinary_a doctrine_n whereby_o you_o mantain_n that_o nothing_o changeable_a be_v leave_v to_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o church_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n but_o only_a circumstance_n of_o action_n we_o can_v not_o see_v how_o you_o can_v mantain_n this_o doctrine_n and_o yet_o oppose_v the_o determination_n of_o the_o church_n concern_v ceremony_n which_o be_v indifferent_a 12._o we_o have_v reason_n to_o inquire_v your_o judgement_n concern_v rite_n or_o ceremony_n which_o be_v not_o of_o divine_a institution_n whether_o they_o be_v lawful_a or_o not_o though_o you_o still_o shun_v the_o declare_v of_o it_o since_o by_o your_o covenant_n you_o intend_v a_o reformation_n of_o religion_n and_o a_o recover_n of_o the_o liberty_n and_o purity_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o you_o speak_v if_o you_o in_o your_o judgement_n condemn_v such_o ceremony_n as_o you_o insinuate_v we_o can_v not_o expect_v but_o that_o if_o you_o obtain_v your_o desire_n all_o such_o rite_n shall_v be_v expel_v and_o condemn_v especial_o since_o by_o this_o your_o late_a covenant_n you_o tie_v yourselves_o to_o that_o old_a covenant_n wherein_o you_o disclaim_v and_o detest_v all_o rite_n bring_v into_o the_o church_n without_o the_o word_n of_o god._n etc._n now_o we_o can_v not_o concur_v with_o you_o for_o promove_v this_o end_n because_o such_o a_o judgement_n be_v plain_a contrary_a to_o we_o yea_o contrary_a to_o the_o universal_a judgement_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o ancient_n church_fw-mi repugnant_a also_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n and_o most_o famous_a divine_n therein_o as_o may_v appear_v by_o the_o quotation_n on_o the_o margin_n but_o if_o you_o be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n with_o we_o and_o think_v that_o there_o be_v some_o rite_n of_o that_o kind_a lawful_a why_o do_v you_o hide_v your_o mind_n from_o we_o and_o other_o since_o the_o acknowledgement_n and_o manifest_v of_o this_o truth_n will_v be_v no_o small_a advancement_n to_o your_o cause_n by_o remove_v this_o great_a offence_n of_o matrimonial_a benediction_n and_o godfather_n in_o baptism_n 13._o as_o for_o solemn_a blessing_n of_o marriage_n we_o ask_v what_o warrant_v you_o have_v for_o it_o by_o precept_n or_o practice_n set_v down_o in_o god_n word_n in_o your_o answer_n you_o insinuate_v that_o it_o be_v a_o blessing_n of_o the_o people_n command_v in_o the_o law_n and_o more_o plain_o we_o find_v this_o set_v down_o in_o the_o dispute_n against_o the_o english_a popish_a ceremony_n part._n 3._o cap._n 2._o sect._n 10._o yet_o plain_a it_o be_v from_o scripture_n itself_o that_o matrimonial_a benediction_n aught_o to_o be_v give_v by_o a_o pastor_n for_o god_n have_v command_v his_o minister_n to_o bless_v his_o people_n numb_a 6._o first_o who_o ever_o before_o you_o do_v ground_n the_o necessity_n of_o solemn_a blessing_n of_o marriage_n upon_o these_o word_n numb_a 6._o 23._o speak_v unto_o aaron_n and_o unto_o his_o son_n say_v on_o this_o wise_a you_o shall_v bless_v the_o child_n of_o israel_n say_v unto_o they_o the_o lord_n bless_v thou_o and_o keep_v thou_o etc._n etc._n learned_a melanchton_n be_v not_o so_o well_o verse_v in_o scripture_n as_o to_o see_v this_o for_o he_o say_v in_o his_o epistle_n pag._n 328._o you_o see_v that_o the_o rite_n of_o the_o ancient_n be_v that_o the_o bridegroom_n and_o bride_n be_v join_v before_o the_o altar_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n and_o with_o the_o incal_v of_o god._n which_o custom_n undoubted_o have_v be_v ordain_v by_o the_o first_o father_n that_o we_o may_v consider_v that_o this_o conjunction_n be_v appoint_v by_o god_n and_o be_v assist_v by_o he_o 14._o second_o by_o this_o
majesty_n we_o do_v hearty_o &_o thankful_o acknowledge_v they_o to_o be_v true_o conform_v to_o his_o majesty_n gracious_a declaration_n in_o that_o his_o last_o proclamation_n and_o indeed_o it_o become_v both_o you_o and_o we_o to_o think_v sâ—_n of_o they_o neither_o do_v we_o take_v upon_o we_o to_o harbour_v in_o our_o breast_n any_o uncharitable_a suspicion_n concern_v the_o intention_n of_o those_o other_o of_o who_o you_o speak_v see_v they_o stand_v or_o fall_v to_o their_o own_o master_n and_o the_o thought_n of_o their_o heart_n be_v unknown_a both_o to_o you_o and_o we_o and_o in_o a_o matter_n uncertain_a it_o be_v sure_a to_o judge_v charitable_o yea_o we_o have_v maâ—â—y_a pregnaâ—â—_n argument_n to_o persuade_v we_o that_o those_o reverend_a prelate_n and_o their_o associate_n have_v no_o such_o intention_n as_o you_o judge_v 8._o you_o make_v mention_n of_o three_o wrong_n do_v by_o we_o to_o you_o the_o one_o in_o the_o warn_v whereof_o you_o have_v a_o answer_n already_o give_v in_o our_o 12._o dup_o where_o you_o do_v use_v great_a exaggeration_n then_o either_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o warner_n do_v merit_v â—â—_o become_v your_o chartiy_n and_o profession_n and_o by_o your_o repetition_n of_o it_o in_o thâ—â—_n place_n you_o show_v that_o you_o have_v too_o great_a delight_n to_o dwell_v upon_o such_o expostulation_n whereas_o theological_a reason_n of_o the_o matter_n in_o controversy_n will_v better_o become_v you_o in_o such_o a_o disput._n the_o second_o wrong_n be_v that_o as_o you_o allege_v we_o have_v wrong_v you_o in_o withhold_a our_o hand_n and_o help_v from_o so_o good_a a_o cause_n of_o purge_v religion_n est_fw-la &_o reform_v the_o kirk_n from_o so_o many_o gross_a abuse_n and_o oppose_v all_o those_o who_o have_v modest_o labour_v for_o reformation_n but_o certain_o the_o wrong_n be_v do_v to_o we_o by_o you_o in_o that_o you_o do_v without_o warraâ—â—_n of_o authority_n obtrude_v upon_o we_o and_o those_o commit_v to_o our_o charge_n the_o swear_n of_o a_o oath_n which_o be_v against_o our_o own_o conscience_n and_o because_o of_o our_o just_a refusal_n &_o opposition_n you_o do_v wrong_v we_o also_o in_o misinterpret_v our_o pious_a and_o upright_a meaning_n and_o in_o make_v and_o stir_v up_o collateral_a and_o personal_a quarrel_n against_o we_o and_o threaten_v we_o therewith_o thus_o if_o god_n by_o his_o special_a grace_n do_v not_o uphold_v we_o may_v we_o be_v drive_v by_o worldly_a terror_n to_o do_v against_o the_o light_n of_o our_o own_o conscience_n 9_o the_o three_o wrong_n wherewith_o you_o charge_v we_o and_o for_o the_o which_o you_o do_v infinuate_v that_o we_o may_v fear_v trouble_n be_v as_o you_o allege_v in_o our_o speech_n in_o public_a and_o private_a and_o in_o our_o missive_n etc._n etc._n hereunto_o we_o answer_v â—â—_o in_o our_o former_a reply_v that_o whensoever_o it_o shall_v please_v you_o to_o specify_v these_o speech_n we_o hope_v to_o give_v you_o and_o all_o peaceable_o dispose_v christian_n full_a satisfaction_n and_o to_o clear_v ourselves_o of_o that_o imputation_n so_o that_o none_o shall_v have_v just_a reason_n to_o work_v we_o any_o trouble_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n if_o our_o ingenuity_n will_v permit_v we_o as_o it_o dothnot_v to_o think_v it_o a_o decent_a course_n to_o make_v use_n of_o hearkener_n and_o catcher_n of_o word_n and_o to_o wait_v for_o the_o halt_n of_o our_o brethren_n some_o of_o your_o own_o speech_n may_v be_v represent_v unto_o you_o wherein_o you_o will_v find_v weakness_n 10._o as_o for_o these_o owtward_a or_o external_a argument_n which_o you_o bring_v here_o to_o prove_v your_o covenant_n to_o be_v the_o work_n of_o god_n from_o the_o success_n of_o your_o enterprise_n from_o the_o multitude_n of_o subscriver_n and_o from_o their_o contentment_n &_o from_o their_o good_a carriage_n which_o we_o will_v wish_v in_o many_o of_o they_o to_o be_v more_o charitable_a and_o peaceable_a and_o so_o more_o christian_n than_o it_o be_v we_o can_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v a_o commentary_n write_v by_o the_o lord_n own_o hand_n as_o you_o pretend_v in_o approbation_n of_o your_o covenant_n unless_o you_o first_o clear_o show_v we_o the_o text_n or_o substance_n of_o your_o covenant_n to_o be_v write_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n in_o all_o point_n thereof_o especial_o in_o those_o point_n wherein_o you_o and_o we_o do_v controvert_v and_o which_o only_o at_o this_o time_n can_v be_v pretend_v against_o we_o see_v we_o make_v oppsition_n only_o in_o those_o point_n and_o we_o wish_v hearty_o that_o leave_v these_o weak_a note_n of_o truth_n to_o the_o papist_n chief_a acclaimer_n of_o they_o among_o christian_n that_o we_o speak_v nothing_o of_o alien_n from_o christianity_n you_o will_v be_v please_v to_o adhere_v with_o we_o into_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o the_o only_a sure_a &_o perfect_a rule_n of_o true_a religion_n and_o the_o heavenly_a lamp_n which_o god_n have_v give_v we_o to_o show_v we_o the_o way_n of_o truth_n &_o peace_n wherein_o the_o god_n of_o truth_n and_o peace_n direct_v all_o our_o step_n for_o jesus_n christ_n our_o saviour_n who_o be_v our_o peace_n to_o he_o be_v glory_n for_o ever_o amen_n john_n forbes_n of_o corse_n doctor_n and_o professor_n of_o divinity_n in_o aberdene_n robert_z baron_n doctor_n and_o professor_n of_o divinity_n and_o minister_n in_o aberdene_n alexander_z scrogie_n minister_n at_o old_a aberdene_n d._n d._n william_n leslie_n d._n d._n and_o principal_a of_o the_o king_n college_n in_o aberdene_n ja_n sibbald_n d._n of_o divinity_n and_o minister_n at_o aberdene_n all_o rosse_n d._n of_o divinity_n and_o minister_n at_o aberdene_n finis_fw-la lond_n edit_fw-la ann_n 1616_o pag._n 200._o 201._o xii_o tabularum_fw-la fragmenta_fw-la de_fw-la officio_fw-la consulis_fw-la regio_fw-la imperio_fw-la duo_fw-la sunto_fw-la iique_fw-la praeeundo_fw-la indicando_fw-la consulendo_fw-la praetores_fw-la judices_fw-la consules_a appel_n lantor_n militiae_fw-la summum_fw-la jus_o habento_fw-la ne_fw-la mini_fw-la paren_a to_o salus_fw-la populi_fw-la suprema_fw-la lex_fw-la esto_fw-la esto_fw-la quid_fw-la ergo_fw-la turbamini_fw-la volens_fw-la nunquam_fw-la vos_fw-la deseram_fw-la coactus_fw-la repugnare_fw-la non_fw-la novi_fw-la dolere_fw-la potero_fw-la potero_fw-la slere_fw-la potero_fw-la gemere_fw-la adversus_fw-la arma_fw-la milites_fw-la gothos_n quoque_fw-la laâ—rhymae_fw-la mea_fw-la arma_fw-la sunt_fw-la talia_n enim_fw-la munimenta_fw-la sunt_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la aliter_fw-la nec_fw-la debeo_fw-la nec_fw-la possum_fw-la resistere_fw-la resistere_fw-la non_fw-la ego_fw-la mi_fw-mi vallabo_fw-la circumfusione_fw-la populorum_fw-la rogamus_fw-la auguste_fw-la non_fw-la pugnamus_fw-la tradere_fw-la basilicam_fw-la non_fw-la possum_fw-la sed_fw-la repugnare_fw-la non_fw-la debeo_fw-la interest_n enim_fw-la quibque_fw-la causis_fw-la quibusque_fw-la authoribê°_n homines_fw-la gerenda_fw-la bella_fw-la suscipiant_fw-la ordo_fw-la tamen_fw-la ille_fw-la naturalis_fw-la mortalium_fw-la paâ—i_fw-la accomodatus_fw-la hoc_fw-la poscit_fw-la ut_fw-la suscipiendi_fw-la belli_fw-la authoritas_fw-la atquâ—_n consilium_fw-la penes_fw-la principem_fw-la sit_fw-la aug._n lib._n 22._o contra_fw-la faustum_n cap._n 75._o hugo_n grorius_n de_fw-la jure_fw-la belli_fw-la &_o pacis_fw-la lâ—b_fw-la 1_o cap._n 4._o num_fw-la 6._o averroeâ—_n 5._o metaphys_n comment_n 6._o see_v hugo_n grotius_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la belli_fw-la &_o pacis_fw-la pag._n 66._o where_o he_o cit_v sundry_a ancient_a author_n rivet_n in_o his_o jesuita_fw-la vapulans_fw-la cap._n 13._o ambrose_n in_o obitum_fw-la valâ—tiniani_n see_v doctor_n field_n in_o his_o 3._o book_n of_o the_o church_n cap._n 32._o altar_n da_n mascen_n p._n 828._o and_o 853._o re-examination_n of_o the_o assembly_n of_o pearth_n pag._n 227._o in_o regulis_fw-la juris_fw-la in_o sexto_fw-la reg._n 42._o gregory_n nazianz._n orat._n 40._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d upon_o these_o word_n nicetas_n his_o interpreter_n speak_v thus_o baptismum_fw-la suscipe_fw-la quamdâ—u_fw-la minime_fw-la circum_fw-la te_fw-la pugnant_fw-la be_v qui_fw-la te_fw-la baptismi_fw-la aqua_fw-la tingere_fw-la parat_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la poecuniarum_fw-la tuarum_fw-la haeres_fw-la futurus_fw-la est_fw-la ille_fw-la videlicet_fw-la studiose_fw-la ageâ—s_fw-la atque_fw-la contendens_fw-la ut_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la exitum_fw-la necessaria_fw-la sunt_fw-la suppeditet_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la te_fw-la salutari_fw-la aqua_fw-la tingat_fw-la &_o dominicum_fw-la corpus_fw-la impertiat_fw-la hic_fw-la contra_fw-la ut_fw-la testamento_fw-la haeres_fw-la scribatur_fw-la consilium_fw-la nicenum_n can._n 13._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d balsamon_n his_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d altar_n da_n maâ—cen_n p._n 341._o disp_n against_o the_o english_a popish_a ceremony_n part._n 3._o cap._n 1._o see_v they_o dispute_v against_o the_o english_a popish_a ceremony_n part_n 3._o cap_n 7._o sect_n 5._o the_o late_a confession_n of_o helvetia_n cap._n 27_o confession_n of_o bohem._n cap._n 15._o english_a confession_n art_n 15._o confession_n of_o auspurg_n art_n 15._o art_n 7._o confession_n of_o wirtemberg_n art_n 35._o confession_n of_o sweveland_n cap._n 14._o calvin_n institut_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 10._o §._o