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A16183 A large examination taken at Lambeth, according to his Maiesties direction, point by point, of M. G. Blakwell, made Arch-priest of England, by Pope Clement 8 Vpon occasion of a certaine answere of his, without the priuitie of the state, to a letter lately sent vnto him from Cardinall Bellarmine, blaming him for taking the oath of Allegeance. Together with the Cardinals letter, and M. Blakwels said answere vnto it. Also M. Blakwels letter to the Romish Catholickes in England, aswell ecclesiasticall, as lay. Blackwell, George, 1546 or 7-1613.; Bellarmino, Roberto Francesco Romolo, Saint, 1542-1621. 1609 (1609) STC 3104; ESTC S121306 104,118 220

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speak_v of_o the_o pope_n authority_n in_o temporalibus_fw-la indirect_o sect._n 63._o do_v add_v these_o other_o equivalent_a phrase_n to_o the_o word_n indirect_o viz_n per_fw-la accidens_fw-la and_o by_o a_o certain_a consequence_n but_o refuse_v to_o insert_v there_o the_o word_n casualiter_fw-la and_o upon_o some_o other_o occasion_n do_v let_v fall_n from_o he_o that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o inherent_a authority_n in_o temporalibus_fw-la either_o direct_o or_o indirect_o in_o ordine_fw-la adspiritualia_fw-la or_o per_fw-la accidens_fw-la or_o by_o any_o consequence_n but_o that_o which_o he_o have_v he_o have_v it_o casual_o forasmuch_o as_o this_o word_n casual_o may_v so_o be_v understand_v as_o that_o it_o may_v quite_o dash_v and_o overthrow_v all_o that_o former_o have_v be_v say_v by_o this_o examinate_a for_o the_o clear_n of_o his_o allegiance_n to_o his_o majesty_n he_o be_v straight_o urge_v to_o open_v this_o mystery_n sincere_o and_o true_o thief_n have_v no_o 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