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A12557 Paralleles, censures, observations Aperteyning: to three several writinges, 1. A lettre written to Mr. Ric. Bernard, by Iohn Smyth. 2. A book intituled, the Seperatists schisme published by Mr. Bernard. 3. An answer made to that book called the Sep. Schisme by Mr. H. Ainsworth. Whereunto also are adioyned. 1. The said lettre written to Mr. Ric. Bernard divided into 19. sections. 2. Another lettre written to Mr. A.S. 3. A third letter written to certayne bretheren of the seperation. By Iohn Smyth. Smyth, John, d. 1612. 1609 (1609) STC 22877; ESTC S103006 171,681 180

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though_o it_o occupy_v the_o place_n or_o a_o natural_a part_n so_o a_o hypocrite_n or_o one_o that_o continue_v not_o to_o the_o end_n possess_v only_o a_o room_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n &_o be_v not_o indeed_o a_o true_a member_n you_o will_v demand_v then_o why_o we_o receive_v hypocrite_n among_o we_o whereto_o i_o answer_v we_o can_v discern_v a_o hypocrite_n &_o therefore_o we_o be_v to_o judge_n of_o man_n according_a to_o that_o we_o see_v measure_v they_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o which_o be_v conceal_v from_o we_o we_o be_v not_o to_o pry_v into_o wherefore_o our_o judgement_n must_v alter_v &_o change_v as_o occasion_n vary_v &_o so_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o a_o righteous_a man_n forsake_v his_o righteousness_n ezech._n 18.24_o whereas_o in_o truth_n the_o gift_n &_o call_v of_o god_n be_v without_o repentance_n rom._n 11.29_o bree_o therefore_o to_o deliver_v unto_o you_o the_o truth_n i_o hold_v concern_v this_o point_n 1._o the_o visible_a church_n 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