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the_o prince_n who_o begin_v the_o war_n think_v his_o title_n to_o be_v certain_a and_o the_o other_o title_n not_o to_o be_v probable_a and_o moreover_o the_o title_n for_o which_o they_o make_v war_n may_v be_v mere_o temporal_a which_o belong_v not_o to_o our_o case_n as_o you_o shall_v see_v beneath_o but_o let_v we_o go_v on_o to_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o objection_n sect._n 11._o objection_n and_o if_o a_o probable_a title_n say_v you_o be_v not_o sufficient_a excuse_n for_o the_o dispossess_v of_o the_o right_n object_n object_n which_o a_o other_o hould_v it_o be_v as_o good_a have_v no_o title_n at_o all_o as_o a_o probable_a title_n without_o possession_n answer_n 1_o but_o first_o answ_n answ_n your_o consequence_n be_v not_o good_a for_o no_o title_n be_v good_a for_o nothing_o but_o a_o probable_a title_n without_o possession_n in_o subject_n be_v good_a for_o this_o to_o call_v the_o title_n in_o question_n and_o to_o have_v it_o examine_v &_o decide_v by_o a_o lawful_a and_o undoubted_a judge_n and_o in_o absolute_a prince_n who_o have_v no_o superior_n in_o temporal_n it_o be_v good_a in_o the_o opinion_n of_o some_o divine_n to_o have_v the_o matter_n put_v to_o arbitrement_n or_o compromise_n which_o if_o the_o prince_n who_o be_v in_o possession_n refuse_v the_o other_o prince_n may_v according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o these_o divine_n wherewith_o i_o will_v not_o meddle_v make_v war_n against_o he_o for_o the_o wrong_n do_v he_o in_o not_o admit_v arbiter_n also_o a_o probable_a title_n without_o possession_n be_v better_a than_o no_o title_n for_o that_o it_o be_v good_a after_o the_o decease_n of_o they_o who_o have_v possession_n to_o have_v the_o matter_n decide_v by_o the_o kingdom_n or_o commonwealth_n to_o who_o it_o belong_v as_o well_o observe_v vasquez_n to_o determine_v doubtful_a title_n when_o none_o be_v in_o possession_n as_o also_o according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o all_o divine_n it_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n or_o spiritual_a kingdom_n of_o christ_n which_o a_o general_a council_n do_v represent_v to_o determine_v and_o decide_v the_o doubtful_a title_n of_o two_o pope_n although_o both_o of_o they_o be_v partly_o in_o possession_n 2_o second_o your_o consequent_a for_o as_o much_o as_o concern_v the_o make_n of_o war_n upon_o a_o probable_a title_n without_o possession_n vasquez_n will_v not_o fear_v to_o admit_v for_o it_o be_v not_o absurd_a to_o grant_v that_o a_o probable_a title_n without_o possession_n be_v as_o good_a as_o no_o title_n for_o the_o make_n of_o war_n against_o a_o prince_n who_o have_v both_o a_o probable_a title_n and_o also_o possession_n as_o also_o it_o be_v no_o absurdity_n to_o grant_v but_o rather_o a_o most_o certain_a doctrine_n that_o aprobable_a matter_n of_o baptism_n be_v in_o some_o case_n for_o as_o much_o as_o concern_v practice_v as_o good_a as_o no_o matter_n 4._o see_v vasques_n 1.2_o disp_n 63_o &_o disp_a 64_o cap._n 4._o for_o that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a in_o some_o case_n to_o baptize_v with_o a_o probable_a matter_n to_o wit_n when_o we_o may_v use_v a_o certain_a and_o undoubted_a matter_n and_o a_o probable_a medicine_n be_v in_o some_o case_n as_o good_a as_o no_o medicine_n for_o that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o apply_v to_o one_o a_o probable_a medicine_n when_o a_o undoubted_a medicine_n may_v be_v apply_v sect._n 12._o objection_n now_o in_o this_o contention_n say_v you_o betwixt_o the_o pope_n object_n object_n &_o the_o prince_n though_o the_o prince_n have_v a_o probable_a title_n after_o deprivation_n and_o also_o possession_n it_o be_v houlden_v with_o wrong_a to_o the_o church_n &_o prejudice_n to_o christ_n flock_n who_o good_a be_v more_o to_o be_v respect_v than_o the_o private_a good_a of_o a_o temporal_a prince_n and_o so_o it_o seem_v he_o may_v be_v deprive_v of_o his_o right_n upon_o a_o probable_a title_n though_o absolute_o abstract_v from_o such_o case_n it_o may_v not_o be_v do_v answer_n 1_o but_o this_o have_v be_v full_o answer_v above_o answ_n answ_n for_o it_o be_v a_o most_o false_a and_o seditious_a doctrine_n to_o hold_v that_o a_o prince_n in_o keep_v the_o possession_n of_o his_o crown_n to_o which_o as_o you_o confess_v he_o have_v a_o probable_a right_n after_o deprivation_n do_v any_o wrong_n or_o injury_n to_o the_o church_n or_o any_o unjust_a prejudice_n to_o christ_n flock_n or_o that_o the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n or_o of_o christ_n flock_n be_v to_o be_v respect_v or_o obtain_v by_o unjust_a mean_n and_o with_o the_o wrong_n of_o any_o man_n much_o less_o of_o prince_n who_o in_o use_v &_o defend_v their_o probable_a right_n be_v in_o possession_n do_v no_o man_n wrong_v for_o if_o it_o be_v no_o wrong_n as_o you_o in_o vasquez_n judgement_n false_o and_o absurd_o suppose_v for_o the_o pope_n or_o prince_n who_o have_v only_o a_o probable_a title_n without_o possession_n to_o invade_v and_o assault_v a_o other_o prince_n who_o have_v both_o a_o probable_a title_n and_o also_o possession_n much_o more_o it_o be_v no_o wrong_n for_o this_o prince_n so_o assault_v to_o defend_v himself_o and_o therefore_o you_o must_v not_o be_v so_o mindful_a of_o the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n or_o other_o good_a end_n that_o you_o forget_v that_o the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n and_o all_o good_a end_n must_v be_v obtain_v by_o good_a mean_n for_o as_o you_o know_v bonum_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la integra_fw-la causa_fw-la etc._n etc._n good_a proceed_v from_o and_o entier_fw-fr cause_n nom_fw-fr dionysius_n areo_fw-la pag._n 4._o cap._n de_fw-fr diu_fw-la nom_fw-fr but_o evil_a from_o every_o defect_n 2_o second_o i_o do_v not_o well_o understand_v that_o exception_n you_o make_v in_o your_o last_o word_n though_o absolute_o abstract_v from_o such_o case_n it_o may_v not_o be_v do_v for_o i_o do_v not_o see_v but_o that_o according_a to_o the_o principle_n of_o your_o doctrine_n if_o a_o heretical_a or_o wicked_a prince_n be_v deprive_v by_o the_o pope_n his_o kingdom_n must_v always_o be_v hold_v by_o he_o with_o wrong_n to_o the_o church_n and_o prejudice_n to_o christ_n flock_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o that_o exception_n of_o you_o whereby_o you_o will_v seem_v to_o limit_v your_o former_a false_a assertion_n be_v in_o my_o conceit_n to_o little_a purpose_n and_o moreover_o whether_o it_o better_a for_o god_n glory_n and_o the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n paulo_n leo_fw-la serm_n 1._o the_o ss_z petro_n &_o paulo_n to_o have_v sometime_o persecution_n whereby_o as_o s._n leo_n say_v the_o church_n be_v not_o diminish_v but_o increase_v etc._n etc._n we_o can_v so_o easy_o know_v and_o therefore_o we_o ought_v rather_o to_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o he_o who_o make_v a_o man_n that_o be_v a_o hypocrite_n reign_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o people_n 34._o job._n 34._o than_o over_o rash_o to_o judge_v of_o the_o secret_n of_o god_n providence_n sect._n 13._o objection_n again_o though_o in_o your_o conceit_n and_o opinion_n say_v you_o the_o pope_n and_o prince_n have_v a_o superior_a or_o head_n to_o judge_v the_o controversy_n betwixt_o they_o object_n object_n to_o wit_n a_o general_a council_n yet_o in_o the_o opinion_n of_o other_o who_o hold_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v above_o the_o council_n and_o consequent_o have_v no_o head_n it_o seem_v the_o pope_n may_v as_o other_o prince_n may_v without_o injury_n go_v about_o to_o depose_v a_o prince_n deprive_v upon_o a_o probable_a title_n though_o in_o full_a possession_n of_o his_o right_n and_o dominion_n answer_n 1_o my_o conceit_n indeed_o be_v that_o it_o be_v very_o probable_a that_o a_o general_a council_n exclude_v the_o pope_n be_v above_o atrue_a and_o undoubted_a pope_n answ_n answ_n and_o that_o to_o conceive_v the_o contrary_n be_v altogether_o improbable_a and_o absurd_a now_o to_o
and_o direct_v by_o the_o learned_a who_o if_o through_o ignorance_n negligence_n want_v of_o due_a examination_n inconsiderate_a zeal_n or_o partiality_n either_o towards_o pope_n or_o prince_n they_o direct_v they_o amiss_o the_o chief_a fault_n be_v in_o the_o direrector_n and_o instructor_n for_o which_o they_o be_v great_o to_o answer_v at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o how_o far_o these_o ignorant_a man_n be_v guide_v and_o instruct_v amiss_o be_v to_o be_v excuse_v in_o conscience_n and_o before_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n i_o will_v not_o judge_v but_o leave_v it_o to_o his_o judgement_n who_o be_v the_o searcher_n of_o all_o man_n heart_n this_o only_a i_o wish_v they_o to_o remember_v that_o temporal_a prince_n do_v not_o in_o their_o tribunal_n meddle_v with_o their_o conscience_n but_o only_o with_o their_o external_a action_n for_o which_o they_o may_v sometime_o be_v just_o punish_v by_o the_o external_a magistrate_n although_o their_o conscience_n be_v never_o so_o clear_a in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n 6._o three_o if_o some_o either_o can_v not_o or_o can_v but_o will_v not_o conform_v themselves_o to_o wiiddringtons_n conceit_n and_o explication_n of_o the_o oath_n to_o which_o nevertheless_o other_o both_o can_v and_o do_v conform_v themselves_o will_v you_o therefore_o infer_v from_o hence_o that_o the_o oath_n be_v of_o itself_o unlawful_a or_o not_o minister_v to_o they_o by_o lawful_a authority_n call_v to_o mind_n how_o above_o in_o your_o exception_n against_o the_o second_o branch_n you_o affirm_v without_o any_o proof_n at_o all_o that_o to_o deny_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o pope_n authority_n to_o depose_v be_v not_o to_o deny_v the_o power_n and_o authority_n itself_o and_o yet_o now_o from_o the_o denial_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o lawful_a authority_n to_o minister_v the_o oath_n to_o some_o who_o can_v not_o conform_v themselves_o to_o widdringtons_n conceit_n and_o explication_n of_o the_o oath_n you_o will_v infer_v also_o without_o any_o proof_n a_o denial_n of_o the_o authority_n itself_o to_o minister_v lawful_o the_o oath_n to_o they_o but_o the_o plain_a truth_n be_v as_o i_o observe_v there_o that_o a_o denial_n of_o all_o effect_n and_o practice_n of_o any_o power_n or_o authority_n be_v a_o virtual_a denial_n of_o the_o power_n and_o authority_n itself_o but_o a_o denial_n of_o some_o particular_a effect_n &_o practice_n be_v not_o a_o sufficient_a or_o virtual_a denial_n of_o the_o authority_n itself_o and_o therefore_o although_o we_o shall_v grant_v as_o we_o do_v not_o that_o the_o state_n can_v not_o lawful_o or_o without_o sin_n minister_v this_o oath_n to_o those_o who_o can_v conform_v themselves_o to_o widdringtons_n conceit_n and_o explication_n of_o the_o oath_n to_o which_o nevertheless_o other_o catholic_n both_o can_v and_o do_v conform_v themselves_o yet_o it_o can_v not_o be_v infer_v from_o hence_o that_o the_o oath_n be_v not_o minister_v to_o they_o by_o lawful_a authority_n as_o also_o although_o we_o shall_v admit_v as_o we_o do_v not_o that_o a_o judge_n can_v lawful_o or_o without_o sin_n minister_v a_o oath_n to_o he_o who_o he_o moral_o know_v will_n swear_v false_o and_o against_o his_o conscience_n yet_o it_o can_v be_v infer_v from_o hence_o that_o the_o judge_n have_v not_o good_a and_o full_a power_n and_o authority_n to_o minister_v the_o oath_n to_o he_o for_o one_o may_v have_v authority_n to_o a_o thing_n which_o nevertheless_o in_o some_o case_n he_o can_v lawful_o do_v as_o a_o priest_n be_v in_o mortal_a sin_n have_v authority_n to_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n for_o example_n of_o penance_n and_o yet_o as_o a_o priest_n he_o can_v lawful_o minister_v they_o be_v in_o mortal_a sin_n and_o therefore_o although_o he_o commit_v sin_n by_o use_v and_o exercise_v his_o office_n irreligious_o yet_o the_o sacrament_n be_v valid_a because_o his_o be_v in_o sin_n do_v not_o deprive_v he_o of_o his_o authority_n neither_o do_v he_o sin_n in_o that_o manner_n as_o he_o shall_v do_v who_o minister_v the_o say_a sacrament_n without_o priestly_a authority_n see_v widdrington_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o master_n fitzherb_n part_n 2._o chap._n 10._o nu_fw-la 33._o pag._n 286._o et_fw-la seq_fw-la where_o he_o handle_v this_o matter_n more_o at_o large_a 7._o four_o according_a to_o your_o manner_n of_o argue_v you_o may_v also_o prove_v that_o the_o king_n have_v not_o authority_n to_o minister_v a_o oath_n to_o his_o subject_n that_o they_o shall_v acknowledge_v his_o majesty_n to_o be_v their_o sovereign_a lord_n in_o temporal_n and_o yet_o fa._n parson_n himself_o affirm_v 16._o in_o the_o judgement_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 13_o 16._o that_o there_o be_v no_o catholic_a who_o stick_v or_o make_v difficulty_n to_o acknowledge_v and_o swear_v the_o same_o and_o becanus_n also_o in_o the_o first_o edition_n of_o his_o controversia_fw-la anglicana_n pag._n 101._o affirm_v that_o it_o be_v certain_a to_o he_o that_o king_n james_n be_v the_o sovereign_a lord_n in_o temporall_n over_o his_o dominion_n for_o to_o use_v the_o like_a argument_n you_o frame_v above_o if_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o nothing_o be_v exact_v by_o the_o aforesaid_a oath_n but_o temporal_a allegiance_n than_o we_o may_v not_o only_o swear_v but_o also_o be_v bind_v to_o swear_v that_o such_o a_o oath_n be_v minister_v by_o lawful_a authority_n but_o when_o it_o be_v questionable_a and_o uncertain_a whether_o the_o king_n majesty_n or_o the_o pope_n holiness_n be_v the_o sovereign_a lord_n in_o temporall_n not_o only_o of_o this_o kingdom_n but_o according_a to_o the_o canonist_n doctrine_n which_o most_o learned_a victoria_n affirm_v to_o be_v altogether_o improbable_a as_o in_o very_a deed_n it_o be_v of_o all_o the_o christian_a kingdom_n in_o the_o world_n and_o consequent_o whether_o the_o king_n exact_v such_o a_o oath_n of_o his_o subject_n shall_v cause_v they_o wrong_v the_o pope_n or_o church_n or_o make_v they_o swear_v a_o thing_n uncertain_a or_o with_o the_o hurt_n of_o their_o conscience_n not_o be_v able_a many_o of_o they_o to_o conform_v themselves_o to_o those_o conceit_n which_o the_o divine_n who_o be_v opposite_a therein_o to_o the_o canonist_n do_v make_v of_o such_o a_o oath_n though_o they_o be_v true_a for_o that_o they_o can_v perceive_v no_o solid_a ground_n therefore_o i_o see_v not_o how_o we_o may_v lawful_o swear_v that_o such_o a_o oath_n be_v minister_v unto_o we_o by_o lawful_a authority_n but_o how_o insufficient_a this_o manner_n of_o argue_v be_v i_o have_v show_v partly_o in_o this_o section_n and_o partly_o above_o in_o the_o second_o 8._o five_o if_o we_o follow_v m._n widdringtons_n first_o answer_n which_o you_o can_v not_o convince_v to_o be_v improbable_a to_o wit_n that_o the_o immediate_a object_n of_o this_o oath_n be_v only_o our_o sincere_a acknowledgement_n and_o persuasion_n that_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o any_o lawful_a power_n or_o authority_n to_o depose_v the_o king_n and_o not_o the_o absolute_a proposition_n than_o the_o argument_n you_o make_v here_o be_v of_o no_o force_n at_o all_o for_o of_o this_o our_o acknowledgement_n we_o must_v be_v and_o be_v most_o certain_a and_o assure_v and_o nevertheless_o you_o know_v right_a well_o that_o to_o prove_v any_o branch_n of_o the_o oath_n unlawful_a you_o must_v impugn_v all_o the_o explication_n m._n widdrington_n have_v make_v of_o that_o branch_n &_o that_o not_o only_o with_o probable_a exception_n but_o with_o evident_a and_o convince_a demonstration_n sect._n 17._o objection_n last_o ob._n ob._n i_o do_v not_o see_v say_v you_o how_o and_o one_o that_o be_v not_o altogether_o of_o your_o opinion_n in_o all_o these_o point_n belong_v to_o the_o oath_n can_v swear_v that_o he_o do_v it_o willing_o for_o that_o none_o do_v willing_o swear_v against_o his_o own_o opinion_n although_o he_o may_v perhaps_o do_v it_o if_o the_o opinion_n be_v probable_a unless_o we_o take_v willing_o for_o 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