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xx._n of_o hell-gate_n not_o prevail_v against_o the_o church_n another_o general_a objection_n they_o make_v against_o our_o divide_v from_o they_o if_o say_v they_o it_o be_v for_o such_o damnable_a error_n and_o superstition_n as_o the_o protestant_n charge_v the_o roman_a church_n with_o then_o have_v the_o gate_n of_o hell_n contrary_a to_o our_o saviour_n promise_n prevail_v against_o the_o church_n we_o answer_v by_o deny_v the_o consequence_n for_o from_o the_o charge_v of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o be_v but_o a_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n with_o such_o error_n it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o hell-gate_n have_v prevail_v contrary_a to_o our_o saviour_n promise_n for_o they_o may_v have_v total_o prevail_v against_o the_o roman_a church_n to_o a_o utter_a subversion_n of_o it_o as_o of_o other_o particular_a church_n and_o yet_o our_o saviour_n promise_n stand_v firm_a how_o far_o they_o have_v prevail_v against_o that_o church_n the_o examination_n of_o her_o doctrine_n for_o belief_n and_o practice_n make_v appear_v we_o acknowledge_v indeed_o that_o hel-gate_n do_v not_o prevail_v against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o a_o subversion_n of_o the_o faith_n in_o it_o or_o to_o a_o total_a infection_n of_o the_o member_n of_o it_o with_o all_o the_o error_n and_o superstition_n that_o prevail_v in_o it_o and_o be_v advance_v from_o time_n to_o time_n chief_o by_o those_o that_o have_v chief_a place_n in_o that_o church_n but_o as_o to_o the_o catholic_a church_n we_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v never_o prevail_v to_o a_o subversion_n either_o of_o all_o the_o part_n of_o it_o or_o of_o save_a faith_n in_o it_o there_o shall_v always_o be_v a_o church_n and_o that_o a_o church_n wherein_o save_v faith_n shall_v be_v preserve_v and_o may_v be_v have_v and_o so_o saint_n augustine_n de_fw-fr symb._n ad_fw-la catech._n l._n 1._o c._n 5._o seem_v to_o render_v the_o sense_n of_o that_o promise_n when_o he_o repeat_v it_o thus_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o overthrow_v or_o conquer_v it_o and_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n seem_v plain_o to_o acknowledge_v what_o faith_n it_o be_v against_o which_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v not_o the_o now_o roman_a faith_n for_o by_o that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n have_v far_o prevail_v upon_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o the_o ancient_a apostolic_a faith_n once_o deliver_v in_o all_o age_n profess_v and_o by_o we_o protestant_n retain_v for_o be_v meet_v at_o trent_n to_o establish_v their_o new_a faith_n they_o begin_v their_o meeting_n as_o the_o ancient_a council_n do_v with_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n repeat_v only_o that_o ancient_a apostolic_a faith_n or_o creed_n and_o then_o add_v this_o be_v the_o firm_a and_o only_a foundation_n against_o which_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v sess_n secund_a council_n trid._n unto_o this_o passage_n i_o have_v in_o private_a this_o reply_n or_o cavil_v rather_o return_v if_o the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n import_v so_o much_o then_o may_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n cast_v off_o baptism_n and_o return_v to_o circumcision_n and_o yet_o hold_v the_o foundation_n because_o profess_v that_o faith_n but_o this_o cavil_n or_o inference_n be_v first_o inconsequent_a as_o to_o the_o particular_a instance_n baptism_n and_o circumcision_n for_o the_o one_o the_o nicene_n creed_n tell_v we_o what_o a_o necessary_a conjunction_n it_o have_v with_o the_o belief_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n in_o render_v the_o article_n thus_o i_o believe_v one_o baptism_n for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o for_o the_o other_o the_o apostle_n tell_v we_o how_o inconsistent_a it_o be_v with_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n gal._n 5.2.3_o second_o it_o be_v impertinent_a as_o to_o my_o application_n of_o that_o confession_n at_o trent_n for_o i_o allege_v it_o not_o to_o ground_v any_o such_o inference_n upon_o it_o against_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n as_o if_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n can_v prevail_v against_o it_o whole_o in_o all_o sort_n of_o error_n save_v the_o verity_n and_o profession_n of_o those_o article_n of_o the_o creed_n but_o see_v they_o make_v that_o creed_n the_o confession_n of_o their_o faith_n at_o trent_n according_a to_o the_o manner_n of_o ancient_a council_n and_o acknowledge_v it_o in_o plain_a word_n to_o be_v the_o only_a foundation_n etc._n etc._n i_o infer_v first_o that_o a_o church_n hold_v that_o foundation_n may_v gross_o err_v in_o other_o thing_n not_o so_o immediate_a to_o it_o and_o yet_o be_v a_o church_n and_o indeed_o the_o romish_a church_n for_o these_o many_o age_n have_v have_v no_o tolerable_a plea_n to_o the_o title_n and_o be_v of_o a_o church_n but_o so_o far_o forth_o as_o have_v hold_v that_o foundation_n however_o clog_v with_o many_o error_n second_o that_o according_a to_o this_o their_o confession_n their_o new_a and_o additional_a faith_n of_o trent_n be_v not_o that_o catholic_a faith_n against_o which_o as_o pretend_v the_o gate_n of_o hell_n can_v prevail_v and_o last_o it_o show_v the_o intolerable_a boldness_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n or_o court_n which_o after_o the_o tridentine_a meeting_n fear_v not_o to_o add_v their_o new_a article_n to_o that_o former_a creed_n which_o they_o have_v confess_v to_o be_v the_o only_a foundation_n as_o make_v up_o one_o entire_a catholic_a faith_n and_o to_o subjoin_v athanasius_n his_o clause_n to_o it_o all_o haec_fw-la est_fw-la fides_fw-la catholica_fw-la extra_fw-la quam_fw-la etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o catholic_a faith_n without_o which_o no_o salvation_n as_o appear_v by_o pius_fw-la quartus_fw-la his_o bull_n and_o the_o oath_n which_o every_o bishop_n in_o that_o church_n take_v but_o that_o the_o catholic_a church_n have_v a_o promise_n in_o that_o large_a sense_n cardinal_n perron_n speak_v it_o lib._n 1._o cap._n 18._o to_o continue_v
sound_v propter_fw-la convenientiorem_fw-la institutionem_fw-la seu_fw-la principium_fw-la that_o church_n be_v from_o saint_n peter_n and_o saint_n paul_n and_o therefore_o the_o most_o convenient_a example_n to_o show_v the_o succession_n of_o pastor_n and_o doctrine_n for_o from_o thence_o he_o fetch_v his_o argument_n to_o confute_v those_o heretic_n that_o be_v press_v with_o scripture_n do_v accuse_v it_o as_o he_o say_v of_o obscurity_n as_o not_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o they_o who_o be_v ignorant_a of_o tradition_n therefore_o he_o confute_v they_o by_o the_o undeniable_a succession_n of_o the_o church_n and_o because_o longum_n est_fw-fr say_v he_o omnium_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la enumerare_fw-la successiones_fw-la therefore_o he_o single_v out_o the_o roman_a as_o that_o which_o be_v maxima_fw-la omnibus_fw-la cognita_fw-la &_o à _fw-la gloriosissimis_fw-la apostolis_n petro_n &_o paulo_n fundata_fw-la &_o instituta_fw-la there_o be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o 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general_o hold_v in_o the_o church_n yet_o be_v there_o a_o pretence_n make_v to_o it_o and_o great_a confidence_n and_o boast_n among_o they_o of_o the_o father_n not_o that_o they_o know_v they_o have_v indeed_o advantage_n by_o they_o as_o to_o the_o due_a prove_v of_o their_o cause_n but_o because_o the_o protestant_n have_v free_o and_o ingenuous_o speak_v their_o judgement_n of_o the_o father_n and_o their_o authority_n therefore_o the_o romanist_n make_v advantage_n of_o it_o with_o their_o own_o proselyte_n as_o if_o the_o protestant_n decline_v all_o trial_n that_o way_n now_o shall_v we_o speak_v with_o that_o liberty_n of_o the_o father_n writing_n as_o they_o do_v of_o the_o scripture_n load_v it_o with_o imputation_n of_o obscurity_n imperfection_n corruption_n etc._n etc._n it_o may_v i_o hope_v be_v so_o much_o more_o justifiable_a in_o we_o as_o the_o divine_a authority_n of_o scripture_n surpass_v all_o humane_a writing_n but_o this_o we_o profess_v however_o they_o be_v oblige_v to_o disparage_v the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n and_o a_o miserable_a cause_n it_o must_v be_v which_o oblige_v man_n to_o such_o a_o plea_n yet_o be_v not_o we_o oblige_v to_o detract_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o due_a worth_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n for_o take_v their_o write_n as_o they_o be_v we_o aver_v that_o the_o popish_a faith_n can_v prove_v itself_o to_o be_v catholic_n by_o they_o yet_o if_o we_o say_v the_o father_n be_v man_n and_o subject_a to_o error_n which_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o we_o do_v but_o say_v what_o they_o oft_o acknowledge_v themselves_o if_o we_o say_v they_o have_v err_v in_o several_a age_n and_o that_o many_o of_o they_o together_o with_o a_o general_a consent_n as_o in_o the_o millenary_a belief_n the_o infant_n communion_n and_o the_o place_n of_o faithful_a soul_n out_o of_o heaven_n till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n we_o do_v but_o say_v what_o the_o romanist_n can_v deny_v who_o do_v acknowledge_v the_o father_n err_v in_o these_o if_o therefore_o we_o say_v they_o be_v no_o rule_n of_o faith_n to_o we_o we_o do_v but_o say_v what_o they_o of_o the_o age_n follow_v think_v that_o they_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o follow_v they_o in_o these_o error_n after_o they_o be_v once_o detect_v and_o what_o the_o romanist_n must_v acknowledge_v for_o they_o also_o have_v forsake_v they_o in_o these_o if_o again_o we_o say_v the_o write_n of_o the_o father_n have_v come_v through_o ill_a hand_n unto_o we_o which_o have_v corrupt_v or_o maim_v the_o true_a and_o patch_v false_a and_o supposititious_a writing_n to_o they_o the_o romanist_n can_v but_o acknowledge_v we_o have_v great_a cause_n to_o think_v there_o be_v more_o providence_n of_o god_n in_o the_o preserve_n of_o scripture_n entire_a than_o the_o write_n of_o the_o father_n only_o here_o be_v the_o mischief_n again_o they_o be_v oblige_v to_o speak_v any_o casualty_n that_o happen_v to_o scripture_n and_o to_o make_v a_o noise_n of_o corruption_n obscurity_n etc._n etc._n because_o they_o find_v it_o too_o plain_a against_o they_o and_o be_v afraid_a the_o people_n shall_v see_v it_o too_o but_o of_o the_o father_n writing_n more_o rare_o do_v they_o acknowledge_v any_o such_o thing_n not_o because_o they_o have_v cause_n to_o joy_n of_o they_o as_o plain_a and_o full_a for_o the_o romish_a faith_n but_o because_o their_o advantage_n be_v by_o their_o forge_a writing_n and_o the_o corruption_n of_o the_o true_a one_o also_o because_o those_o writing_n come_v through_o their_o hand_n for_o several_a age_n and_o so_o the_o false_a deal_n that_o have_v be_v use_v become_v chargeable_a upon_o the_o professor_n of_o their_o cause_n false_a deal_v i_o say_v what_o by_o the_o cunning_a of_o monk_n that_o have_v those_o write_n in_o manuscript_n what_o by_o their_o several_a edition_n of_o the_o father_n what_o by_o their_o expurgatory_n index_n in_o all_o which_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o see_v what_o labour_v there_o have_v be_v to_o 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therefore_o can_v be_v no_o ground_n for_o necessary_a faith_n whether_o we_o consider_v the_o matter_n of_o they_o or_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o they_o our_o argument_n brief_o be_v i._o such_o as_o show_v the_o scripture_n sufficient_a for_o salvation_n as_o joh._n 5._o ver_fw-la 39_o for_o in_o they_o you_o think_v you_o have_v salvation_n where_o our_o saviour_n suppose_v they_o think_v true_a in_o it_o or_o else_o his_o reason_n have_v not_o be_v good_a for_o because_o they_o may_v have_v salvation_n by_o they_o i._n e._n know_v all_o thing_n necessary_a to_o it_o therefore_o he_o bid_v they_o search_v the_o scripture_n and_o they_o shall_v find_v they_o testify_v of_o he_o so_o 2_o tim._n 3.15_o express_o they_o be_v able_a to_o make_v wise_a unto_o salvation_n etc._n etc._n they_o have_v two_o shift_n here_o 1._o that_o scripture_n be_v profitable_a to_o that_o end_n for_o that_o word_n profitable_a the_o romanist_n lie_v hold_v on_o because_o the_o apostle_n say_v there_o all_o scripture_n be_v profitable_a for_o doctrine_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o say_v they_o be_v every_o book_n profitable_a to_o that_o end_n though_o not_o sufficient_a and_o so_o they_o will_v have_v the_o whole_a scripture_n but_o partial_o profitable_a but_o we_o answer_v sufficiency_n belong_v to_o the_o whole_a scripture_n though_o in_o proportion_n also_o to_o every_o book_n and_o the_o other_o expression_n of_o the_o apostle_n there_o show_v this_o to_o be_v only_o a_o shift_n for_o he_o say_v before_o that_o scripture_n be_v able_a to_o make_v wise_a to_o salvation_n can_v that_o be_v say_v to_o be_v able_a to_o make_v a_o man_n wise_a to_o such_o a_o purpose_n and_o only_o to_o do_v it_o in_o part_n and_o imperfect_o teach_v he_o only_o some_o knowledge_n to_o that_o purpose_n also_o he_o say_v after_o ver_fw-la 17._o by_o the_o scripture_n the_o man_n of_o god_n be_v thorough_o furnish_v or_o perfect_v to_o every_o good_a work_n i.e._n to_o doctrine_n instruction_n etc._n etc._n 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condition_n yet_o let_v we_o see_v how_o they_o or_o we_o stand_v bind_v to_o they_o for_o the_o first_o thing_n believe_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n the_o romanist_n can_v challenge_v we_o protestant_n for_o not_o believe_v what_o they_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n do_v so_o believe_v with_o a_o due_a and_o full_a consent_n and_o for_o the_o point_v controvert_v which_o they_o challenge_v we_o for_o not_o believe_v let_v they_o if_o they_o can_v give_v we_o so_o general_a a_o consent_n of_o father_n for_o they_o as_o we_o find_v in_o those_o former_a age_n agree_v in_o the_o millenary_a belief_n in_o the_o place_n of_o faithful_a soul_n out_o of_o heaven_n till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n in_o the_o communion_n give_v to_o infant_n as_o necessary_a for_o their_o salvation_n and_o some_o other_o and_o yet_o neither_o the_o cardinal_n nor_o any_o romanist_n hold_v himself_o bind_v to_o believe_v in_o these_o thing_n put_v they_o in_o what_o rank_n they_o will_v as_o necessary_a 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or_o practise_v by_o the_o romish_a church_n the_o cardinal_n his_o other_o rule_n be_v in_o his_o four_o observation_n in_o the_o same_o letter_n let_v that_o be_v hold_v say_v he_o as_o true_o ancient_a and_o to_o have_v the_o mark_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n which_o be_v find_v to_o be_v believe_v and_o practise_v universal_o by_o the_o father_n of_o the_o time_n of_o the_o four_o first_o counsel_n and_o when_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o thing_n testify_v by_o they_o be_v not_o hold_v for_o doctrine_n and_o observance_n spring_v up_o in_o their_o time_n but_o as_o perpetual_o practise_v in_o the_o church_n from_o the_o age_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o there_o be_v not_o find_v in_o the_o former_a author_n testimony_n against_o they_o but_o in_o all_o place_n where_o there_o be_v occasion_n to_o mention_v they_o agreeable_a and_o favourable_a so_o he_o this_o indeed_o be_v reasonable_a fair_a as_o to_o the_o trial_n between_o they_o and_o we_o yet_o not_o this_o of_o itself_o to_o give_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o belief_n for_o how_o will_v it_o hold_v in_o the_o forementioned_a instance_n of_o infant-communion_n and_o the_o place_n of_o man_n soul_n till_o the_o resurrection_n in_o which_o both_o they_o and_o we_o reject_v what_o be_v general_o believe_v and_o practise_v in_o those_o age_n where_o still_o by_o generally_n be_v mean_v more_o general_o believe_v or_o practise_v and_o so_o the_o cardinal_n word_n universal_o in_o his_o rule_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v but_o as_o to_o the_o point_v controvert_v how_o can_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n hold_v to_o this_o or_o stand_v by_o it_o when_o she_o be_v never_o able_a to_o show_v her_o doctrine_n so_o attest_v believe_v practise_v nay_o when_o as_o we_o be_v able_a to_o show_v the_o beginning_n of_o many_o of_o they_o but_o spring_v up_o in_o or_o after_o those_o age_n as_o purgatory_n invocation_n of_o saint_n image-worship_n transubstantiation_n half-communion_n nay_o when_o their_o own_o author_n give_v we_o reason_n why_o the_o apostle_n and_o those_o of_o the_o first_o age_n do_v not_o teach_v as_o chap._n 21._o be_v note_v above_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o image-worship_n to_o the_o first_o christian_n yet_o must_v these_o pass_v for_o catholic_n doctrine_n universal_o believe_v and_o practise_v from_o the_o age_n of_o the_o apostle_n a_o cause_n this_o that_o need_v the_o great_a wit_n of_o that_o cardinal_n to_o make_v antiquity_n appear_v for_o it_o in_o so_o fair_a a_o show_n and_o then_o to_o persuade_v man_n so_o far_o out_o of_o their_o wit_n as_o to_o believe_v it_o do_v so_o indeed_o whereas_o these_o general_a hint_n that_o have_v be_v give_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o 30_o chap_n may_v suffice_v to_o let_v any_o man_n that_o have_v reason_n know_v it_o can_v be_v no_o good_a appearance_n which_o be_v make_v of_o antiquity_n but_o a_o cunning_a disguise_n and_o that_o the_o trent_n article_n can_v be_v no_o catholic_n or_o perpetual_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n but_o novel-point_n of_o romish_a persuasion_n creep_v at_o first_o some_o in_o one_o age_n some_o in_o another_o into_o opinion_n or_o practice_n and_o so_o by_o degree_n gather_v strength_n till_o they_o be_v assert_v by_o the_o most_o and_o chief_a in_o that_o communion_n and_o defend_v for_o the_o doctrine_n of_o that_o church_n and_o at_o length_n coin_v into_o article_n of_o i'faith_o as_o the_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o all_o age_n and_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n the_o end_n the_o content_n of_o the_o division_n of_o the_o english_a and_o romish_a church_n upon_o the_o reformation_n 1_o chap._n i._o we_o set_v not_o up_o a_o new_a church_n but_o be_v the_o same_o christian_a church_n before_o and_o after_o the_o reformation_n 4_o chap._n ii_o the_o demand_n of_o professor_n in_o all_o age_n we_o can_v show_v it_o better_o than_o they_o 9_o chap._n iii_o how_o they_o and_o we_o be_v say_v to_o differ_v in_o essential_o 12_o chap._n iu_o particular_a churckes_n may_v reform_v especial_o when_o a_o general_a council_n can_v be_v expect_v 15_o chap._n v._o we_o not_o guilty_a of_o schism_n the_o guilt_n of_o the_o breach_n lie_v on_o the_o romanist_n 20_o chap._n vi_o how_o necessity_n of_o divide_v communion_n arise_v 24_o chap._n vii_o sectary_n can_v make_v the_o plea_n that_o we_o do_v 28_o chap._n viii_o of_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n and_o judgement_n in_o private_a man_n 31_o chap._n ix_o of_o dissent_v from_o the_o public_a judgement_n 35_o chap._n x._o possibility_n of_o just_a dissent_v 39_o chap_n xi_o how_o far_o the_o romanist_n leave_v man_n the_o use_n of_o their_o reason_n and_o judgement_n 47_o chap._n xii_o of_o know_v the_o church_n by_o the_o mark_n of_o eminency_n perpetuity_n etc._n etc._n 51_o chap._n xiii_o our_o way_n open_v not_o a_o gap_n to_o sectary_n 57_o chap._n fourteen_o the_o romanist_n vain_a pretence_n of_o infallibility_n 63_o chap._n xv._o divide_v from_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v not_o a_o divide_n from_o the_o catholic_n 66_o chap._n xvi_o the_o greek_a church_n a_o church_n and_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n 69_o chap._n xvii_o of_o agreement_n and_o external_a communion_n betwixt_o the_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n 73_o chap._n xviii_o the_o want_n of_o that_o do_v not_o always_o make_v guilty_a of_o schism_n 75_o chap._n xix_o our_o case_n and_o that_o of_o the_o donatist_n not_o alike_o 78_o chap._n xx._n of_o hell-gate_n not_o prevail_v against_o the_o church_n 82_o chap._n xxi_o of_o the_o trial_n of_o doctrine_n by_o scripture_n 91_o chap._n xxii_o sufficient_a perfection_n of_o the_o scripture_n as_o a_o rule_n 95_o chap._n xxiii_o of_o tradition_n which_o we_o allow_v 96_o chap._n xxiv_o their_o argument_n against_o scripture_n sufficiency_n and_o for_o tradition_n 103_o chap._n xxv_o the_o evidence_n of_o antiquity_n in_o the_o point_n 114_o chap._n xxvi_o of_o the_o perspicuity_n and_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n 119_o chap._n xxvii_o of_o a_o visible_a infallible_a judge_n or_o interpreter_n 125_o chap._n xxviii_o of_o certainty_n of_o belief_n and_o whether_o they_o or_o we_o have_v better_a mean_n for_o it_o 146_o chap._n xxix_o of_o the_o other_o rule_n of_o trial_n by_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n and_o the_o romanist_n vain_a boast_n of_o the_o father_n 157_o chap._n xxx_o application_n of_o the_o rule_n to_o their_o doctrine_n in_o several_a pâ—ints_n 161_o chap._n xxxi_o card_n perron_n two_o rule_n for_o know_v who_o and_o what_o be_v catholic_n according_a to_o antiquity_n 179_o the_o end_n of_o the_o table_n ¶_o a_o catalogue_n of_o some_o book_n print_v for_o richard_n royston_n at_o the_o angel_n in_o ivy-lane_n by_o h._n ferne_n d._n d._n episcopacy_n and_o presbytery_n consider_v in_o 4o._o a_o sermon_n preach_v at_o the_o isle_n of_o wight_n before_o his_o majesty_n in_o 4o._o now_o in_o the_o press_n a_o compendious_a discourse_n upon_o the_o case_n as_o it_o stand_v between_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o of_o rome_n on_o the_o one_o side_n and_o again_o between_o the_o same_o church_n of_o england_n and_o those_o congregation_n which_o of_o what_o persuasion_n soever_o have_v divide_v from_o it_o on_o the_o other_o side_n part_n i._o in_o 12o._o