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note_n be_v ch_z 5._o 8._o ch_n 6._o 10._o ch_n 8._o 3._o which_o we_o shall_v touch_v below_o but_o hear_v what_o he_o say_v in_o his_o next_o disputation_n postremo_fw-la disputation_n non_fw-la fuisse_fw-la morem_fw-la in_fw-la v._o tâ—â—adeundi_fw-la sanctos_fw-la intercessores_fw-la erat_fw-la etiam_fw-la olim_fw-la periculum_fw-la idololatriae_fw-la salm._n disp_n 8._o sect_n postremo_fw-la it_o be_v not_o their_o manner_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n to_o use_v the_o saint_n as_o intercessor_n the_o reason_n because_o they_o be_v not_o then_o glorify_v and_o because_o of_o old_a there_o be_v danger_n of_o idolatry_n mark_v the_o danger_n of_o the_o romish_a practice_n in_o religion_n and_o worship_n but_o be_v there_o not_o danger_n under_o the_o new_a testament_n he_o acknowledge_v it_o say_v it_o be_v not_o express_v but_o be_v leave_v to_o tradition_n secret_o to_o be_v deliver_v which_o he_o call_v ibid._n call_v tacitam_fw-la spiritus_fw-la suggestionem_fw-la ibid._n the_o 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ordinariè_fw-la cognoscere_fw-la preces_fw-la etc._n etc._n 20_o sect_n sed_fw-la dices_fw-la for_o he_o will_v confine_v it_o to_o the_o old_a testament_n acknowledge_v it_o be_v not_o the_o custom_n then_o to_o say_v holy_a abraham_n pray_v for_o we_o and_o his_o reason_n be_v because_o they_o do_v not_o see_v god_n and_o can_v not_o ordinary_o i._n e._n without_o special_a revelation_n know_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_n neither_o be_v the_o cardinal_n so_o ingenuous_a with_o we_o as_o be_v his_o fellow_n salmeron_n for_o albeit_o he_o give_v reason_n why_o prayer_n be_v not_o make_v to_o they_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n which_o reason_n be_v good_a against_o their_o invocation_n till_o our_o saviour_n ascension_n yet_o he_o bring_v place_n out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n for_o a_o seem_a proof_n of_o it_o some_o of_o they_o indeed_o concern_v invocation_n of_o angel_n as_o that_o gen._n 48.16_o &_o job_n 5.1_o to_o which_o we_o brief_o answer_v 9_o answer_v chap._n ii_o nu_fw-la 9_o above_o and_o though_o the_o cardinal_n reason_n which_o exclude_v the_o saint_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n do_v not_o conclude_v against_o the_o angel_n which_o do_v see_v god_n face_n and_o as_o well_o hear_v and_o know_v what_o be_v say_v and_o do_v below_o on_o earth_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o after_o yet_o salmerons_n reason_n may_v prevail_v against_o invocation_n of_o they_o because_o of_o danger_n of_o idolatry_n then_o and_o it_o will_v have_v seem_v strange_a and_o hard_a to_o the_o jew_n and_o albeit_o they_o have_v cherubin_n in_o the_o picture_n yet_o not_o angel_n in_o their_o worship_n which_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o azor_n and_o vasquez_n and_o that_o out_o of_o several_a father_n clear_v the_o jewish_a church_n from_o worship_v of_o angel_n or_o image_n and_o something_o to_o this_o purpose_n be_v say_v 10._o say_v chap._n iii_o nu_fw-la 10._o above_o now_o for_o the_o place_n out_o of_o the_o revelation_n invocation_n place_n 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a_o fraud_n and_o falsification_n as_o he_o complain_v here_o but_o that_o he_o may_v see_v and_o acknowledge_v how_o answerable_a the_o manner_n of_o speech_n in_o the_o one_o be_v to_o the_o other_o it_o follow_v david_n say_v of_o it_o or_o of_o that_o water_n be_v not_o this_o the_o blood_n of_o these_o man_n answerable_a to_o these_o sacramental_a speech_n of_o the_o text_n in_o hand_n but_o of_o this_o manner_n of_o speech_n more_o hereafter_o the_o second_o part_n of_o his_o answer_n be_v by_o deny_v the_o consequence_n substance_n a_o rule_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o change_n of_o substance_n therefore_o he_o give_v the_o same_o in_o substance_n which_o he_o take_v the_o bread_n which_o he_o take_v be_v change_v as_o he_o will_v have_v it_o into_o his_o body_n which_o he_o give_v as_o when_o in_o gallilee_n the_o water_n be_v turn_v into_o wine_n it_o can_v not_o be_v thence_o prove_v that_o as_o the_o servant_n fill_v the_o vessel_n with_o natural_a water_n so_o they_o draw_v 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this_o half_a communion_n the_o sequel_n of_o the_o former_a article_n of_o real_a presence_n and_o acknowledge_v that_o without_o the_o establish_n of_o the_o one_o the_o other_o can_v be_v defend_v so_o p._n 322_o 323._o we_o see_v then_o what_o goodly_a fruit_n the_o romish_a real_a presence_n have_v bring_v forth_o to_o the_o great_a and_o just_a offence_n of_o christian_a people_n in_o deny_v they_o the_o cup_n beside_o other_o goodly_a sequels_fw-fr of_o it_o as_o adoration_n and_o circumgestation_n it_o be_v not_o real_a presence_n true_o grant_v no_o not_o such_o as_o the_o romanist_n will_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v true_a that_o give_v a_o ground_n for_o half_a communion_n or_o make_v it_o defensible_a for_o they_o grant_v as_o we_o see_v here_o p._n 123._o the_o lutheran_n convince_v of_o this_o mystery_n i._n e._n to_o believe_v a_o true_a real_a presence_n but_o can_v say_v they_o be_v convince_v of_o this_o sequel_n or_o that_o it_o follow_v then_o may_v the_o communion_n 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he_o show_v we_o what_o word_n what_o imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o other_o ceremony_n be_v there_o for_o that_o purpose_n be_v our_o saviour_n then_o confer_v order_n or_o institute_v the_o eucharist_n or_o can_v he_o with_o the_o same_o word_n action_n and_o ceremony_n institute_v and_o administer_v two_o several_a sacrament_n do_v this_o he_o say_v and_o that_o be_v all_o they_o can_v pretend_v to_o but_o if_o by_o this_o the_o disciple_n be_v make_v priest_n than_o they_o do_v what_o our_o saviour_n do_v must_v also_o ordain_v other_o so_o oft_o as_o they_o administer_v the_o eucharist_n now_o the_o whole_a importance_n of_o that_o precept_n do_v this_o concern_v the_o whole_a company_n priest_n and_o people_n as_o be_v plain_a by_o 1_o cor._n 11.25_o 26._o and_o it_o be_v general_o hold_v by_o the_o ancient_n that_o the_o disciple_n then_o represent_v the_o whole_a church_n or_o company_n of_o faithful_a and_o that_o they_o receive_v order_n or_o priesthood_n after_o his_o resurrection_n jo._n 20.22_o last_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n give_v not_o the_o sacrament_n in_o both_o kind_n to_o priest_n when_o they_o be_v not_o conficientes_fw-la consecrator_n or_o administer_v of_o it_o as_o the_o disciple_n than_o be_v not_o but_o leave_v this_o senseless_a assertion_n and_o novel_a device_n of_o our_o saviour_n make_v they_o priest_n when_o he_o say_v do_v this_o let_v we_o come_v to_o the_o main_a viz._n the_o whole_a substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n under_o each_o kind_n he_o that_o receive_v under_o one_o kind_n say_v mr._n spencer_n receive_v a_o true_a sacrament_n kind_n whether_o the_o whole_a substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v in_o one_o kind_n p._n 326._o he_o that_o receive_v may_v we_o say_v according_a to_o the_o romish_a church_n in_o one_o kind_n he_o do_v not_o receive_v a_o true_a sacrament_n or_o not_o the_o true_a sacrament_n because_o not_o the_o outward_a part_n true_o and_o whole_o as_o it_o be_v purpose_v and_o appoint_v at_o the_o institution_n so_o that_o definition_n which_o he_o give_v here_o may_v pass_v for_o a_o complete_a definition_n of_o a_o sacrament_n in_o general_n but_o be_v not_o complete_o use_v when_o apply_v only_o to_o one_o of_o the_o kind_n or_o outward_a part_n of_o this_o sacrament_n for_o there_o be_v as_o he_o note_v p._n 324._o something_o particular_a in_o this_o sacrament_n not_o the_o particular_a he_o there_o note_n that_o the_o whole_a substance_n may_v be_v receive_v in_o each_o kind_n but_o that_o it_o stand_v in_o two_o kind_n or_o sign_n or_o outward_a element_n both_o which_o together_o make_v the_o complete_a sign_n of_o the_o spiritual_a grace_n signify_v and_o exhibit_v in_o this_o sacrament_n each_o sign_n apart_o can_v represent_v and_o exhibit_v the_o whole_a spiritual_a grace_n of_o this_o sacrament_n he_o acknowledge_v a_o different_a grace_n confer_v here_o kind_n a_o different_a grace_n confer_v in_o each_o kind_n one_o of_o spiritual_a meat_n the_o other_o of_o spiritual_a drink_n only_o he_o will_v have_v both_o in_o each_o kind_n p._n 327._o which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v the_o effect_n of_o drink_n be_v show_v and_o exhibit_v by_o the_o meat_n we_o eat_v and_o the_o effect_n of_o meat_n by_o the_o drink_n we_o take_v so_o with_o equal_a absurdity_n to_o say_v that_o the_o blood_n shed_v be_v show_v by_o the_o blood_n in_o the_o vein_n of_o unshed_a for_o so_o it_o be_v give_v with_o the_o body_n under_o one_o kind_n and_o that_o the_o blood_n be_v drink_v when_o we_o eat_v the_o flesh_n for_o though_o it_o be_v true_a that_o he_o who_o receive_v christ_n by_o faith_n receive_v whole_a christ_n and_o by_o that_o mouth_n of_o faith_n eat_v his_o flesh_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n be_v real_o make_v partaker_n of_o his_o body_n give_v and_o his_o blood_n shed_v for_o he_o thus_o without_o the_o sacrament_n and_o when_o we_o come_v to_o receive_v he_o in_o the_o sacrament_n the_o same_o act_n of_o faith_n receive_v he_o in_o one_o kind_n as_o under_o the_o bread_n can_n and_o do_v at_o the_o same_o time_n receive_v also_o his_o blood_n christi_fw-la totum_fw-la christum_fw-la not_o totum_fw-la christi_fw-la or_o whole_a christ_n yet_o do_v he_o not_o receive_v his_o blood_n sacramental_o as_o blood_n shed_v and_o so_o not_o all_o of_o christ_n or_o christ_n whole_o thus_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o act_n of_o faith_n he_o that_o receive_v but_o in_o one_o kind_n out_o of_o necessity_n may_v be_v assure_v that_o he_o be_v not_o defraud_v of_o the_o participation_n of_o christ_n blood_n shed_v but_o he_o can_v be_v so_o assure_v that_o wilful_o receive_v but_o in_o one_o kind_n because_o though_o there_o be_v a_o concomitancy_n of_o flesh_n and_o blood_n in_o christ_n body_n as_o to_o the_o natural_a condition_n of_o it_o yet_o not_o a_o concomitancy_n of_o his_o flesh_n and_o bloodshed_n as_o to_o the_o sacramental_a consideration_n of_o they_o which_o therefore_o be_v set_v out_o in_o the_o sacrament_n apart_o by_o two_o several_a element_n also_o because_o such_o a_o one_o be_v a_o transgressor_n of_o our_o saviour_n institution_n and_o enemy_n to_o his_o own_o comfort_n fall_v short_a of_o the_o benefit_n thereof_o therefore_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v cause_n to_o say_v though_o not_o to_o the_o purpose_n he_o will_v have_v it_o p._n 326._o in_o the_o distribution_n of_o the_o bread_n the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n preserve_v thy_o and_z then_o add_v the_o cup_n to_o say_v there_o also_o preservethy_o and_o this_o conformable_o as_o to_o our_o saviour_n institution_n so_o to_o his_o say_n except_o you_o eat_v and_o drink_v jo_n 6.53_o and_o to_o the_o apostle_n in_o what_o he_o receive_v from_o the_o lord_n 1_o cor._n 11.28_o this_o author_n be_v force_v to_o confess_v that_o if_o by_o a_o complete_a sign_n be_v mean_v a_o full_a and_o express_a
utramque_fw-la attingimus_fw-la por_fw-mi fidem_fw-la and_o say_v we_o attain_v to_o both_o sort_n of_o righteousness_n by_o faith_n then_o he_o put_v the_o question_n upon_o which_o of_o these_o righteousness_n we_o ought_v to_o rely_v or_o hold_v ourselves_o justify_v before_o god_n and_o account_v righteous_a he_o conclude_v ibid._n justitiâ_fw-la christi_fw-la nobis_fw-la donatâ_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la sanctitate_fw-la &_o gratiâ_fw-la nobis_fw-la inhaerente_fw-la ibid._n it_o must_v be_v upon_o the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n give_v we_o not_o upon_o the_o sanctity_n or_o grace_n inherent_a in_o we_o and_o add_v the_o reason_n peccemus_fw-la inchoata_fw-la &_o imperfecta_fw-la quae_fw-la tueri_fw-la nos_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la quin_fw-la in_o multis_fw-la offendamus_fw-la &_o assidue_fw-la peccemus_fw-la because_o that_o which_o be_v in_o we_o be_v but_o inchoate_n and_o imperfect_a which_o can_v keep_v we_o from_o offend_v often_o offendit_fw-la idcircò_fw-la in_o conspectu_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la possumus_fw-la ob_fw-la hanc_fw-la est_fw-la vera_fw-la &_o perfecia_fw-la justitia_fw-la quaeomnino_fw-la placet_fw-la oculis_fw-la dei_fw-la in_fw-la qua_fw-la nihil_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la deum_fw-la offendit_fw-la and_o sin_v daily_o and_o therefore_o have_v daily_o need_v to_o say_v forgive_v we_o our_o debt_n therefore_o we_o can_v be_v account_v just_a in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n for_o this_o our_o righteousness_n but_o the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n give_v to_o we_o be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o perfect_a righteousness_n which_o be_v altogether_o please_v in_o the_o eye_n of_o god_n and_o in_o which_o there_o be_v nothing_o that_o offend_v he_o unto_o this_o the_o same_o author_n apply_v phil._n 3.9_o not_o have_v my_o own_o righteousness_n but_o the_o righteousness_n which_o be_v through_o faith_n he_o give_v we_o withal_o a_o good_a lesson_n it_o be_v find_v by_o experience_n say_v he_o that_o holy_a man_n ibid._n man_n quantò_fw-la magis_fw-la in_o sanclitate_fw-la proficiunt_fw-la tanto_fw-la minùs_fw-la sibi_fw-la placere_fw-la &_o tanto_fw-la magìs_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la se_fw-la indigere_fw-la christo_fw-la &_o justitia_fw-la christi_fw-la sibi_fw-la donata_fw-la ideóque_fw-la se_fw-la relinquunt_fw-la &_o soli_fw-la christo_fw-la incumbunt_fw-la contar._n ibid._n the_o more_o they_o advance_v in_o sanctity_n the_o less_o be_v they_o please_v to_o themselves_o and_o the_o more_o do_v they_o understand_v how_o they_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o righteousness_n give_v unto_o they_o therefore_o they_o forsake_v themselves_o and_o rely_v upon_o christ_n only_o he_o answer_v also_o to_o some_o place_n of_o scripture_n object_v as_o that_o the_o psalmist_n say_v often_o judge_v i_o o_o lord_n according_a to_o my_o righteousness_n and_o the_o lord_n reward_v i_o according_a to_o my_o righteousness_n for_o i_o have_v keep_v the_o way_n of_o the_o lord_n ps_n 18.20_o 21._o if_o david_n have_v say_v and_o mean_v this_o so_o deo_fw-la it_o à _fw-la ut_fw-la putasset_fw-la se_fw-la propterea_fw-la justificatum_fw-la esse_fw-la coram_fw-la deo_fw-la as_o to_o think_v himself_o therefore_o justify_v before_o god_n he_o have_v speak_v as_o arrogant_o as_o the_o pharisee_fw-mi luc._n mendacia_fw-la scd_v &_o essent_fw-la mera_fw-fr mendacia_fw-la 18._o nay_o he_o have_v speak_v mere_a lie_n all_o this_o be_v speak_v in_o regard_n of_o his_o enemy_n especial_o saul_n and_o absalon_n of_o who_o he_o have_v deserve_v well_o and_o not_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o righteousness_n before_o god_n also_o to_o that_o place_n of_o deut._n 6.25_o it_o shall_v be_v our_o righteousness_n if_o we_o observe_v all_o these_o commandment_n he_o answer_v christo_fw-la answer_v justitia_fw-la nostra_fw-la legalis_fw-la est_fw-la custedire_fw-la omniâ—_n sed_fw-la quia_fw-la nullus_fw-la servet_fw-la omne_fw-la praecepta_fw-la legis_fw-la ergò_fw-la sub_fw-la maledicto_fw-la omnes_fw-la ideoque_fw-la omnes_fw-la indigemus_fw-la christo_fw-la our_o legal_a righteousness_n be_v to_o observe_v all_o but_o because_o there_o be_v none_o that_o keep_v all_o the_o precept_n of_o the_o law_n therefore_o all_o lie_n under_o the_o curse_n or_o condemnation_n and_o all_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o righteousness_n thus_o that_o cardinal_n be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o protestant_a doctrine_n in_o this_o point_n or_o question_n between_o impute_a and_o inhaerent_a righteousness_n acknowledge_v the_o imperfection_n of_o the_o inhaerent_a as_o to_o its_o effect_n of_o justify_v and_o that_o the_o impute_a be_v to_o be_v rely_v on_o we_o may_v to_o these_o add_v what_o the_o colen_n divine_v in_o their_o antididagma_n justific_n antidida_fw-la gma_fw-la tit._n justific_n or_o book_n oppose_v to_o the_o reformation_n endeavour_v by_o hermannus_n the_o archbishop_n do_v acknowledge_v speak_v of_o the_o cause_n of_o justification_n apprehenditur_fw-la 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justification_n by_o inhaerent_a righteousness_n which_o may_v all_o be_v answer_v with_o this_o one_o exception_n they_o may_v prove_v that_o there_o be_v a_o inhaerent_a righteousness_n but_o not_o that_o there_o be_v justification_n by_o it_o to_o instance_n in_o the_o chief_a of_o they_o his_o first_o place_n be_v rom._n 5.19_o make_v sinner_n real_o inhaerent_o we_o grant_v it_o true_a and_o answerable_o make_v righteous_a by_o christ_n but_o be_v we_o make_v sinner_n only_o so_o by_o adam_n disobedience_n be_v we_o not_o also_o make_v so_o by_o imputation_n the_o cardinal_n himself_o acknowledge_v it_o itaque_fw-la bell._n the_o aâ—_n miss_v gâ—a_fw-la l._n 5._o c._n 17._o sect_n itaque_fw-la and_o then_o be_v we_o not_o also_o make_v righteous_a by_o imputation_n of_o the_o second_o adam_n obedience_n the_o cardinal_n as_o we_o see_v 4._o see_v nu._n 4._o above_o in_o three_o place_n acknowledge_v the_o imputation_n of_o christ_n satisfaction_n and_o merit_n for_o free_v we_o from_o the_o offence_n of_o sin_n and_o and_o the_o guilt_n of_o eternal_a death_n and_o therefore_o from_o that_o condemnation_n under_o which_o we_o be_v by_o the_o first_o adam_n disobedience_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o condemnation_n the_o apostle_n here_o vers_n 18._o set_v against_o justification_n and_o so_o in_o this_o antithesis_fw-la vers_fw-la 19_o between_o make_v sixner_n and_o make_v righteous_a must_n first_o stand_v good_a in_o regard_n of_o condemnation_n and_o justification_n take_v proper_o then_o between_o the_o inhaerent_a depravation_n and_o the_o inhaerent_a righteousness_n take_v what_o the_o ancient_a commentator_n here_o say_v be_v mean_v by_o make_v sinner_n 〈◊〉_d chrys_n in_o locum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrysost_n and_o after_o he_o occumenius_n and_o theophylact_fw-mi to_o the_o like_a purpose_n expound_v it_o make_v subject_a to_o punishment_n and_o condemn_v to_o death_n that_o be_v the_o first_o sense_n of_o make_v sinner_n and_o unto_o that_o be_v justification_n in_o the_o first_o and_o proper_a sense_n oppose_v the_o cardinal_n second_o testimony_n be_v rom._n suprá_fw-fr bel._n quo_fw-la suprá_fw-fr 3.24_o here_o he_o will_v find_v all_o the_o cause_n of_o justification_n and_o in_o the_o word_n grace_v take_v for_o inherent_a righteousness_n he_o fix_v the_o formal_a cause_n gratis_o of_o grace_n and_o gratis_o that_o it_o be_v take_v for_o the_o gift_n of_o grace_n inhaerent_a and_o not_o for_o the_o favour_n of_o god_n he_o will_v prove_v by_o the_o word_n gratis_o free_o which_o be_v enough_o to_o set_v out_o the_o favour_n of_o god_n and_o his_o love_n to_o mankind_n but_o the_o cardinal_n here_o also_o be_v impertinent_a and_o his_o argument_n inconsequent_a for_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gratis_o free_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o put_v here_o to_o set_v forth_o the_o true_a cause_n of_o our_o justification_n viz._n 〈◊〉_d viz._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n gracious_a favour_n so_o much_o as_o to_o exclude_v the_o false_a cause_n viz._n any_o cause_n desert_n motive_n on_o man_n part_n free_o that_o be_v without_o any_o price_n pay_v by_o we_o without_o any_o cause_n give_v by_o we_o or_o any_o worth_n in_o we_o thus_o gratis_o be_v take_v in_o scripture_n and_o though_o it_o consequent_o
apostle_n purposely_o make_v in_o say_v death_n be_v the_o wage_n or_o stipend_n of_o sin_n but_o not_o say_v so_o of_o life_n eternal_a there_o be_v another_o place_n cite_v out_o of_o st._n august_n that_o make_v a_o great_a noise_n of_o justice_n in_o give_v the_o reward_n justitiae_fw-la aug._n the_o nat_n &_o gra_fw-mi c._n 2._o non_fw-fr est_fw-fr injustus_fw-la deus_fw-la ut_fw-la justos_fw-la fraudet_fw-la mercede_fw-la justitiae_fw-la god_n be_v not_o unjust_a say_v he_o that_o he_o shall_v defraud_v or_o disappoint_v the_o just_a of_o the_o reward_n of_o their_o justice_n or_o righteousness_n but_o upon_o what_o respect_n god_n be_v say_v to_o be_v just_o in_o reward_v be_v show_v 3._o show_v nu._n 3._o above_o in_o answer_n to_o those_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o speak_v god_n justice_n in_o that_o particular_a and_o the_o same_o answer_n may_v serve_v all_o those_o testimony_n which_o the_o cardinal_n or_o other_o bring_v out_o of_o the_o father_n say_v in_o some_o loftiness_n of_o language_n that_o man_n by_o good_a deed_n may_v make_v god_n his_o debtor_n the_o wiseman_n in_o effect_n say_v so_o prov._n 19.17_o and_o that_o proverbial_a way_n of_o speech_n may_v bear_v it_o that_o say_v of_o st._n aug._n which_o in_o this_o controversy_n of_o merit_n truth_n have_v force_v the_o cardinal_n thrice_o to_o mention_v will_v clear_o unfold_v how_o god_n become_v and_o may_v be_v call_v man_n debtor_n and_o answer_v all_o plea_n of_o merit_n make_v from_o such_o speech_n of_o the_o father_n the_o lord_n say_v he_o promittendo_fw-la aug._n ps_n 83._o debitorem_fw-la dominus_fw-la ipse_fw-la se_fw-la secit_fw-la non_fw-la accipiendo_fw-la sed_fw-la promittendo_fw-la make_v himself_o a_o debtor_n and_o how_o be_v that_o not_o by_o receive_v from_o we_o but_o promise_v unto_o we_o to_o this_o purpose_n it_o be_v what_o the_o same_o father_n say_v elsewhere_o 4._o elsewhere_o aug._n l._n 1._o confess_v c._n 4._o o_o thou_o that_o pay_v debt_n or_o render_v what_o be_v due_a yet_o owe_v nothing_o to_o any_o man_n qui_fw-la reddis_fw-la debita_fw-la nulli_fw-la debes_fw-la where_o debita_fw-la debt_n be_v promissa_fw-la his_o promise_n and_o promisisti_fw-la and_o aug._n serm_n 16._o de_fw-la verb._n apost_n red_a quia_fw-la accepisti_fw-la sedâ—edde_n quia_fw-la promisisti_fw-la elsewhere_o we_o do_v not_o say_v to_o god_n render_v because_o thou_o have_v receive_v but_o render_v because_o thou_o have_v promise_v the_o cardinal_n pretend_v he_o can_v easy_o answer_v all_o this_o and_o reply_n thus_o it_o be_v say_v so_o by_o st._n jussisti_fw-la bel._n l._n 5._o the_o justif_a c._n 18._o sect_n sed_fw-la facilis_fw-la absolutè_fw-la sed_fw-la solum_fw-la ex_fw-la promissione_n &_o dono_fw-la svo_fw-la quod_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la sola_fw-la promissione_n sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la ex_fw-la opere_fw-la nostro_fw-la deus_fw-la efficiatur_fw-la debtor_n docet_fw-la aug._n cum_fw-la subjungit_fw-la red_a quod_fw-la promisisti_fw-la quia_fw-la fecimus_fw-la quod_fw-la jussisti_fw-la aug._n because_o god_n owe_v nothing_o to_o any_o man_n absolute_o but_o only_o by_o his_o promise_n and_o his_o own_o bounty_n and_o gift_n this_o be_v fair_a and_o true_a but_o nothing_o to_o his_o advantage_n and_o therefore_o not_o many_o line_n after_o he_o sup_v it_o up_o again_o with_o the_o same_o breath_n say_v nevertheless_o that_o god_n be_v make_v our_o debtor_n not_o only_o by_o his_o promise_n but_o by_o our_o work_n too_o st._n aug._n teach_v when_o he_o subjoin_v we_o may_v say_v render_v what_o thou_o have_v promise_v for_o we_o have_v do_v what_o thou_o command_v if_o this_o may_v be_v say_v to_o god_n almighty_a yet_o with_o such_o caution_n that_o it_o can_v as_o bold_a as_o it_o be_v be_v a_o plea_n for_o merit_n for_o it_o must_v be_v say_v with_o respect_n to_o the_o bounty_n and_o promise_n of_o god_n appoint_v such_o a_o reward_n for_o they_o that_o do_v so_o and_o so_o and_o with_o acknowledgement_n of_o his_o freegrace_n help_v we_o to_o do_v so_o wherefore_o it_o follow_v immediate_o in_o st._n apost_n et_fw-la hoc_fw-la tuâ—fecisti_fw-la qui_fw-la laborantes_fw-la juvisti_fw-la aug._n ser._n 16._o de_fw-la verbis_fw-la apost_n aug._n which_o the_o cardinal_n think_v good_a to_o omit_v and_o this_o thou_o have_v do_v which_o have_v help_v those_o that_o labour_n or_o strive_v to_o do_v well_o if_o we_o take_v it_o not_o as_o say_v in_o such_o a_o respect_n st._n aug._n himself_o will_v judge_v it_o a_o proud_a and_o presumptuous_a say_n for_o so_o it_o be_v censure_v by_o he_o merit_n against_o the_o plea_n of_o merit_n upon_o ps_n 142._o vers_fw-la 2._o enter_v not_o into_o judgement_n where_o he_o bring_v in_o the_o presumptuous_a justifier_n of_o themselves_o say_v faceres_fw-la say_v aug._n in_o ps_n 142._o jejunavimus_fw-la &_o non_fw-la vidisti_fw-la fecimus_fw-la quod_fw-la jussisti_fw-la quare_fw-la non_fw-la reddis_fw-la quod_fw-la promisesti_fw-la ut_fw-la accipias_fw-la quod_fw-la promisi_fw-la ego_fw-la dediut_a faceres_fw-la we_o have_v fast_v and_o thou_o see_v not_o we_o have_v do_v what_o thou_o have_v command_v why_o do_v thou_o not_o render_v what_o thou_o have_v promise_v to_o such_o say_v he_o god_n will_v answer_v that_o thou_o may_v receive_v what_o i_o promise_v i_o give_v unto_o thou_o to_o do_v final_o the_o prophet_n speak_v to_o such_o proud_a one_o etc._n etc._n if_o therefore_o man_n may_v so_o plead_v render_v what_o thou_o have_v promise_v for_o we_o have_v do_v what_o thou_o have_v command_v it_o must_v be_v with_o such_o correction_n we_o have_v do_v what_o thou_o command_v what_o thou_o gracious_o do_v require_v of_o we_o and_o accept_v as_o condition_n of_o obtain_v what_o thou_o have_v bountiful_o promise_v we_o have_v do_v but_o what_o be_v our_o duty_n antecedent_o to_o thy_o gracious_a promise_n do_v what_o thou_o may_v have_v require_v of_o we_o without_o such_o reward_n do_v what_o thou_o do_v help_v and_o enable_v we_o to_o do_v and_o do_v it_o but_o imperfect_o so_o that_o it_o need_v thy_o merciful_a acceptation_n and_o still_o we_o need_v to_o say_v merit_n testimony_n of_o father_n a_o against_o romish_a merit_n enter_v not_o into_o judgement_n with_o thy_o servant_n o_o lord_n now_o to_o proceed_v to_o the_o testimony_n of_o father_n against_o romish_a merit_n first_o we_o allege_v their_o say_n whereby_o they_o plain_o deny_v merit_n or_o that_o we_o be_v worthy_a and_o here_o we_o must_v observe_v as_o to_o the_o sense_n of_o those_o word_n we_o those_o that_o deny_v merit_n and_o worthiness_n in_o we_o merit_n and_o worthy_a in_o this_o controversy_n a_o great_a difference_n between_o those_o say_n of_o the_o father_n which_o bare_o affirm_v our_o merit_n or_o worthiness_n &_o those_o which_o deny_v the_o same_o i_o say_v a_o great_a difference_n between_o the_o force_n of_o the_o one_o and_o of_o the_o other_o for_o when_o they_o affirm_v they_o speak_v according_a 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punctual_o &_o distinct_o of_o merit_n and_o worth_n as_o concern_v in_o this_o controversy_n st._n basil_n speak_v home_o 〈◊〉_d home_o basil_n in_o ps_n 114._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d eternal_a rest_n say_v he_o remain_v for_o they_o that_o have_v strive_v lawful_o in_o this_o life_n not_o render_v according_a to_o debt_n unto_o their_o work_n but_o give_v according_a to_o the_o grace_n of_o a_o bountiful_a god_n he_o speak_v it_o with_o reverence_n to_o those_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n henceforth_o a_o crown_n be_v lay_v up_o for_o i_o 2_o tim._n 4._o and_o a_o distinction_n borrow_v from_o the_o same_o apostle_n rom._n 4.4_o of_o grace_n or_o of_o debt_n and_o so_o cut_v out_o all_o the_o core_n of_o pretend_a merit_n which_o the_o romanist_n will_v fix_v in_o the_o former_a place_n of_o 2_o tim._n 4._o 6._o bel._n l._n 5._o the_o inâ—â—â—f_n c._n 6._o the_o cardinal_n cite_v this_o testimony_n of_o st._n basil_n as_o object_v by_o protestant_n and_o shuffle_n pitiful_o in_o his_o reply_n to_o it_o first_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d
of_o the_o cathari_n show_v that_o after_o this_o life_n end_v the_o condition_n be_v unalterable_a the_o receptacle_n seal_v up_o the_o crown_n give_v not_o so_o if_o soul_n true_o penitent_a go_v to_o purgatory_n for_o of_o such_o soul_n he_o speak_v there_o against_o the_o novatian_o thus_o much_o of_o the_o place_n of_o soul_n we_o come_v now_o to_o the_o second_o head_n purgatory_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a infer_v not_o purgatory_n that_o be_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a from_o which_o the_o romanist_n will_v infer_v purgatory_n and_o for_o scripture_n proof_n they_o give_v we_o 2_o machab._n 12.43_o a_o fit_a foundation_n for_o such_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n the_o book_n of_o all_o the_o apocryphal_o least_o considerable_a which_o will_v easy_o appear_v to_o he_o that_o lay_v together_o what_o the_o author_n himself_o say_v of_o his_o own_o work_n in_o his_o 2._o chap._n v._o 23_o 24_o 26._o and_o chap._n 15.38_o 39_o evidence_n enough_o of_o a_o mere_a humane_a work_n do_v by_o the_o labour_n of_o the_o brain_n not_o the_o inspiration_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n st._n aug._n indeed_o sometime_o call_v these_o book_n canonical_a according_a to_o the_o large_a acception_n of_o the_o african_a church_n but_o be_v put_v to_o answer_v a_o argument_n of_o the_o donatist_n ground_v upon_o the_o machab._n the_o machab._n example_n of_o razis_n he_o much_o lessen_v the_o authority_n of_o they_o as_o not_o to_o be_v compare_v with_o the_o book_n of_o the_o law_n and_o psalm_n legatur_fw-la aug._n contra_fw-la gauden_n l._n 2._o c_o 23._o quibus_fw-la dominus_fw-la testimonium_fw-la perhibet_fw-la tanquam_fw-la testibus_fw-la suis_fw-la luc._n 24_o 44._o recepta_fw-la non_fw-la inutiliter_fw-la si_fw-la sobrie_fw-la legatur_fw-la and_o the_o prophet_n to_o which_o say_v he_o our_o lord_n give_v testimony_n as_o to_o his_o witness_n but_o this_o write_n of_o the_o mach._n be_v receive_v of_o the_o church_n not_o unprofitable_o if_o it_o be_v read_v sober_o gregory_n bishop_n of_o rome_n cite_v a_o place_n out_o of_o these_o book_n 13._o greg._n moral_a l._n 19_o c._n 13._o excuse_n it_o because_o he_o do_v it_o out_o of_o book_n not_o canonical_a in_o moral_a l._n 19_o c._n 13._o again_o he_o that_o well_o consider_v the_o place_n will_v easy_o distinguish_v between_o the_o fact_n of_o judas_n and_o the_o mistake_a collection_n or_o misapplication_n of_o the_o writer_n of_o that_o book_n judas_n no_o doubt_n do_v pious_o for_o he_o see_v their_o sin_n or_o sacrilege_n as_o the_o cause_n why_o they_o be_v slay_v vers_fw-la 40._o fall_v to_o his_o devotion_n pray_v and_o send_v a_o sin-offering_n to_o jerusalem_n v._o 42.43_o not_o for_o the_o sin_n of_o they_o that_o die_v that_o be_v the_o mistake_n of_o this_o writer_n but_o upon_o occasion_n of_o their_o sin_n to_o divert_v the_o wrath_n from_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o army_n as_o joshua_n think_v himself_o concern_v upon_o the_o sin_n of_o achan_n josh_n 7.10_o also_o it_o be_v apparent_a that_o they_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n the_o thing_n they_o have_v steal_v be_v find_v about_o they_o which_o argue_v both_o the_o incogitancy_n of_o this_o writer_n who_o vers_fw-la 45._o suppose_n they_o die_v godly_a and_o the_o impertinency_n of_o the_o romanist_n who_o suppose_v they_o in_o purgatory_n whither_o they_o send_v none_o that_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n but_o only_o justify_v person_n they_o also_o urge_v 2_o tim._n 1.18_o for_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a whereas_o that_o prayer_n for_o onesiphorus_n suppose_v he_o dead_a at_o that_o time_n have_v but_o reference_n to_o the_o mercy_n which_o shall_v be_v impart_v at_o the_o last_o day_n to_o which_o also_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n do_v much_o refer_v and_o make_v nothing_o for_o purgatory_n and_o therefore_o all_o the_o testimony_n they_o bring_v out_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n or_o council_n for_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a be_v impertinent_a as_o to_o the_o prove_v of_o a_o purgatory_n there_o be_v other_o reason_n for_o such_o pray_n as_o we_o shall_v see_v a_o wilful_a pervert_n it_o be_v of_o that_o ancient_a practice_n to_o draw_v it_o off_o as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v do_v from_o the_o first_o intent_n and_o purpose_n to_o fasten_v it_o upon_o their_o conceit_n of_o purgatory_n pain_n we_o shall_v see_v this_o better_a by_o the_o trial_n follow_v the_o ancient_n when_o they_o set_v themselves_o to_o give_v reason_n of_o the_o church_n pray_v for_o the_o dead_a prayer_n other_o purpose_n of_o such_o prayer_n give_v not_o this_o of_o purgatory_n which_o have_v be_v most_o obvious_a and_o most_o fit_a to_o stop_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o adversary_n have_v it_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n but_o other_o reason_n they_o allege_v differ_v from_o or_o inconsistent_a with_o purgatory_n this_o appear_v by_o epiphanius_n who_o be_v put_v to_o it_o by_o aerius_n question_v the_o prayer_n make_v in_o the_o church_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o by_o dionysius_n in_o his_o hierarchy_n who_o put_v himself_o to_o answer_v the_o like_a question_n in_o both_o of_o they_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o intent_n of_o the_o church_n by_o those_o prayer_n be_v main_o this_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o live_n and_o the_o confirm_v of_o their_o hope_n see_v first_o what_o epiphanius_n say_v he_o call_v this_o practice_n a_o seemly_a preach_n or_o publish_v 〈◊〉_d epiph._n har._n 75._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o what_o of_o the_o happy_a estate_n and_o rest_n of_o those_o that_o die_v in_o christ_n whereby_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o live_n be_v confirm_v and_o their_o hope_n raise_v what_o more_o profitable_a say_v he_o then_o that_o the_o live_a shall_v believe_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o that_o be_v depart_v be_v in_o be_v and_o do_v live_v with_o the_o lord_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o again_o there_o be_v hope_n say_v he_o to_o they_o while_o they_o pray_v for_o their_o brethren_n as_o now_o in_o their_o peregrination_n or_o absence_n insinuate_v that_o albeit_o they_o be_v depart_v or_o go_v from_o they_o yet_o they_o shall_v meet_v again_o also_o to_o show_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o which_o be_v more_o perfect_a which_o must_v refer_v to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o next_o life_n for_o say_v he_o while_o we_o be_v here_o in_o the_o world_n we_o offend_v often_o and_o last_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d because_o all_o man_n do_v offend_v and_o slip_v in_o this_o life_n more_o or_o less_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d therefore_o we_o pray_v for_o all_o even_a for_o patriarch_n etc._n etc._n to_o separate_v christ_n from_o all_o other_o for_o he_o be_v without_o sin_n altogether_o be_v not_o to_o be_v pray_v for_o but_o to_o be_v pray_v unto_o and_o worship_v these_o be_v all_o the_o reason_n he_o give_v of_o their_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a which_o we_o see_v do_v respect_n and_o provide_v for_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o live_n and_o do_v not_o imply_v any_o such_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a in_o pain_n and_o grief_n as_o purgatory_n suppose_v but_o the_o contrary_a now_o see_v we_o what_o the_o romanist_n endeavour_v to_o pick_v out_o of_o word_n because_o he_o say_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v profitable_a ibid._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d epiph._n ibid._n although_o it_o cut_v not_o off_o sin_n all_o or_o whole_o they_o infer_v thence_o therefore_o it_o do_v cut_v off_o sin_n in_o part_n we_o answer_v as_o epiphanius_n do_v not_o say_v that_o so_o neither_o can_v he_o mean_v it_o for_o first_o we_o must_v suppose_v he_o will_v not_o answer_v impertinent_o to_o aerius_n who_o object_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_n altogether_o profit_v the_o dead_a then_o let_v no_o man_n live_v godly_a etc._n etc._n therefore_o epiphanius_n his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d must_v answer_v to_o aerius_n his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o must_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o sin_n of_o such_o person_n as_o aerius_n speak_v of_o such_o as_o have_v no_o care_n of_o their_o life_n but_o leave_v it_o to_o their_o live_a friend_n to_o pray_v for_o they_o after_o death_n now_o if_o epiphanius_n shall_v mean_v that_o prayer_n do_v in_o part_n cut_v off_o such_o man_n sin_n then_o must_v he_o speak_v according_a to_o that_o merciful_a opinion_n of_o mitigate_a the_o pain_n of_o the_o damn_a by_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_n with_o which_o conceit_n some_o of_o the_o ancient_n be_v taint_v as_o we_o shall_v see_v below_o but_o this_o will_v be_v nothing_o to_o purgatory_n second_o if_o his_o meaning_n have_v be_v as_o the_o romanist_n will_v have_v it_o that_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o cut_v off_o such_o man_n sin_n but_o that_o there_o be_v another_o sort_n of_o sinner_n
before_o they_o how_o shall_v we_o not_o they_o move_v and_o make_v god_n propitious_a while_o we_o pray_v for_o they_o that_o be_v depart_v here_o again_o the_o romanist_n triumph_n as_o if_o st._n chrysost_o make_v their_o pray_v for_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o apostle_n whereas_o he_o plain_o restrain_v this_o ordinance_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o above_o he_o do_v the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o spirit_n to_o that_o which_o the_o church_n do_v in_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n and_o that_o concern_v only_o they_o who_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o christ_n nothing_o of_o soul_n in_o pain_n and_o torment_n be_v mention_v in_o the_o ancient_a liturgy_n or_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n as_o for_o this_o father_n speak_v of_o prayer_n for_o such_o sinner_n as_o he_o describe_v in_o all_o the_o forementioned_a place_n such_o as_o be_v go_v to_o endless_a pain_n yet_o may_v receive_v as_o he_o think_v a_o little_a case_n thereby_o we_o must_v reckon_v it_o as_o a_o private_a opinion_n and_o misapplication_n of_o that_o practice_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o indeed_o he_o seem_v to_o acknowledge_v so_o much_o himself_o for_o in_o his_o forementioned_a hom._n 61._o in_o jo._n he_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o relation_n to_o those_o his_o exhortation_n for_o such_o prayer_n and_o offering_n these_o thing_n i_o speak_v not_o as_o one_o give_v precept_n or_o set_v a_o law_n but_o as_o one_o allow_v and_o condescend_v to_o the_o affection_n and_o frailty_n of_o man_n the_o romanist_n here_o reply_v that_o st._n chrysost_o and_o other_o seem_v to_o urge_v prayer_n for_o all_o because_o they_o know_v not_o who_o die_v in_o the_o state_n of_o repentance_n and_o so_o they_o pray_v for_o all_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n yet_o hold_v those_o prayer_n appliable_a to_o and_o available_a for_o only_o those_o that_o die_v in_o that_o state_n and_o go_v to_o purgatory_n pain_n this_o be_v a_o mere_a shift_n for_o st._n chrysost_o do_v plain_o suppose_v that_o those_o sinner_n he_o speak_v of_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n such_o 〈◊〉_d chrys_n hom_n 61._o in_o lo._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o if_o god_n have_v see_v they_o will_v have_v change_v he_o will_v not_o have_v cut_v they_o off_o before_o their_o repentance_n as_o we_o have_v it_o above_o such_o as_o he_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v thus_o of_o of_o such_o a_o one_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n to_o rejoice_v but_o only_o because_o the_o course_n of_o his_o wicked_a life_n be_v cut_v off_o yet_o for_o such_o he_o exhort_v to_o pray_v and_o offer_v and_o help_v he_o as_o they_o can_v and_o indeed_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o extend_v the_o benefit_n of_o prayer_n to_o such_o sinner_n be_v not_o any_o supposal_n of_o purgatory_n but_o of_o some_o mitigate_a and_o ease_v of_o those_o eternal_a pain_n to_o which_o such_o sinner_n be_v adjudge_v and_o this_o in_o part_n according_a to_o that_o merciful_a opinion_n and_o the_o motion_n of_o humane_a affection_n of_o which_o st._n aug._n speak_v in_o his_o enchiridion_n c._n 111._o as_o we_o note_v above_o and_o to_o which_o affection_n st._n chrysost_o give_v too_o much_o scope_n as_o we_o see_v in_o the_o forementioned_a passage_n of_o prayer_n &_o oblation_n for_o such_o sinner_n but_o as_o for_o purgatory_n pain_n which_o be_v suppose_v to_o begin_v at_o death_n &_o to_o end_v before_o the_o resurrection_n he_o know_v no_o such_o pain_n as_o evident_o appear_v by_o that_o exact_a distribution_n of_o the_o several_a sort_n of_o punishment_n make_v by_o this_o father_n and_o cite_v below_o nu._n 11._o what_o we_o have_v say_v of_o some_o expression_n of_o chrysost_n apply_v prayer_n and_o relief_n to_o such_o sinner_n as_o before_o be_v describe_v may_v be_v say_v of_o that_o place_n which_o the_o romanist_n much_o urge_v out_o of_o st._n 〈◊〉_d cyril_n mist_n â—atech_n 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n who_o tell_v we_o they_o pray_v simple_o for_o all_o and_o account_v it_o a_o great_a help_n to_o those_o soul_n for_o which_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o great_a and_o holy_a sacrifice_n be_v offer_v and_o the_o great_a power_n which_o that_o prayer_n have_v to_o help_v he_o set_v out_o by_o the_o similitude_n of_o a_o king_n entreat_v to_o pardon_n and_o call_v back_o one_o that_o be_v banish_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d according_a to_o the_o same_o manner_n say_v he_o we_o pray_v for_o sinner_n render_v god_n propitious_a now_o if_o it_o be_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n then_o by_o the_o force_n of_o this_o similitude_n it_o must_v be_v employ_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n may_v obtain_v pardon_n for_o sinner_n not_o reconcile_v to_o god_n before_o their_o death_n for_o so_o the_o banish_a person_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v not_o reconcile_v to_o his_o prince_n and_o then_o it_o sound_v to_o like_a purpose_n as_o those_o passage_n in_o chrysostom_n do_v and_o be_v but_o a_o private_a application_n or_o misapplication_n of_o that_o ancient_a practice_n neither_o agreeable_a to_o the_o intent_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n remember_v in_o her_o prayer_n and_o offering_n only_o those_o that_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o christ_n as_o by_o the_o form_n of_o those_o prayer_n may_v appear_v nor_o make_v any_o thing_n for_o purgatory_n which_o suppose_v the_o person_n reconcile_v and_o justify_v before_o he_o come_v there_o but_o if_o the_o sinner_n which_o cyril_n here_o say_v be_v pray_v for_o be_v take_v in_o a_o more_o remiss_a sense_n for_o such_o as_o the_o romish_a church_n send_v to_o purgatory_n then_o the_o pray_v for_o they_o come_v to_o no_o more_o than_o what_o we_o say_v above_o to_o epiphanius_n and_o dionysius_n that_o such_o prayer_n have_v reference_n to_o the_o passage_n of_o such_o soul_n and_o their_o appear_v in_o judgement_n not_o to_o their_o be_v in_o pain_n after_o death_n for_o that_o such_o person_n must_v appear_v in_o judgement_n the_o first_o and_o the_o last_o judgement_n and_o 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