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A19142 A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part Ames, William, 1576-1633. 1633 (1633) STC 555; ESTC S100154 485,880 929

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mischief_n will_v make_v that_o mud_n hurry_v innocent_a 4._o the_o mischief_n be_v so_o great_a as_o fearful_a horror_n of_o conscience_n in_o some_o rej._n p._n 9_o harden_v fople_a and_o distemper_a the_o conscience_n in_o other_o silence_v of_o so_o many_o hundred_o good_a minister_n and_o keep_v off_o more_o from_o the_o ministry_n trouble_v unsettle_v and_o vex_v of_o thousand_o among_o the_o people_n encorage_v of_o popish_a and_o profane_a man_n with_o discorage_v and_o martyr_v the_o mind_n of_o many_o good_a the_o mischief_n i_o say_v be_v so_o unaestimable_a that_o they_o can_v in_o no_o proportion_n be_v recompense_v by_o all_o human_a ceremony_n that_o be_v in_o the_o world_n the_o ceremony_n which_o have_v such_o sequell_n year_n after_o year_n be_v much_o more_o hurtful_a than_o the_o cart_n and_o horse_n that_o be_v drive_v over_o child_n in_o the_o street_n and_o their_o urger_n of_o they_o more_o guilty_a than_o such_o carter_n or_o coach_n man_n as_o drive_v they_o the_o def._n therefore_o &_o rej._v which_o pronounce_v both_o innocent_a and_o do_v not_o rather_o find_v the_o cerem_fw-la forfeit_v and_o call_v the_o driver_n of_o they_o to_o the_o bar_n be_v neither_o good_a crowner_n nor_o fit_a to_o be_v of_o that_o jurye_n luther_n annot._n in_o math._n 15._o give_v a_o better_a verdict_n viz._n all_o human_a tradition_n or_o ceremony_n even_o those_o which_o in_o his_o judgement_n may_v in_o some_o case_n be_v observe_v have_v two_o property_n of_o the_o devil_n as_o be_v liar_n and_o murderer_n when_o they_o continue_v and_o be_v not_o contemn_v such_o innocent_n god_n deliver_v his_o people_n from_o evil_a ceremony_n as_o they_o be_v urge_v be_v more_o than_o cause_n by_o accident_n of_o evil_a 5._o it_o be_v the_o very_a nature_n of_o such_o human_a ceremony_n as_o we_o where_o they_o be_v urge_v and_o use_v as_o with_o we_o to_o do_v hurt_v 1._o because_o they_o be_v vain_a toy_n as_o former_o be_v show_v and_o therefore_o prejudicial_a 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concur_v with_o papist_n cerem_fw-la press_v our_o ceremon_n upon_o the_o same_o condition_n as_o they_o in_o the_o former_a consideration_n the_o like_a be_v true_a also_o touch_v holiness_n now_o because_o some_o of_o these_o thing_n which_o i_o have_v affirm_v concern_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o papist_n about_o cerem_fw-la may_v seem_v strange_a to_o those_o that_o take_v the_o measure_n of_o their_o opinion_n not_o from_o they_o but_o from_o the_o occasional_a and_o imperfect_a say_n of_o their_o adversary_n party_n it_o shall_v be_v necessary_a to_o hear_v themselves_o speak_v first_o let_v we_o hear_v cassander_n with_o his_o allegation_n who_o so_o much_o consent_v with_o d._n burges_n that_o his_o rej._n may_v better_o have_v be_v call_v and_o entitle_v cassander_n anglicanus_n then_o m._n sprint_n book_n be_v save_v only_o that_o there_o be_v more_o passion_n show_v in_o it_o than_o cassander_n temper_n and_o profess_a moderation_n can_v be_v bring_v unto_o contemnant_fw-la cassand_n in_o consult_v art_n 7._o illud_fw-la falsum_fw-la e●le_fw-la existimo_fw-la aliquos_fw-la docuisse_fw-la externos_fw-la lilos_fw-la ritus_fw-la &_o cerem_fw-la e●le_fw-fr cultus_fw-la necessarios_fw-la ad_fw-la promerendam_fw-la justificationem_fw-la coram_fw-la deo_fw-la nec_fw-la aliud_fw-la i●us_fw-la nubus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d quam_fw-la quod_fw-la corum_fw-la externa_fw-la observatio_fw-la de_fw-la vero_fw-la &_o interno_fw-la cultu_fw-la nos_fw-la admoneat_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la eum_fw-la manu_fw-la ducat_n &_o 〈◊〉_d ex_fw-la vera_fw-la in_o christum_fw-la fide_fw-la &_o obedientiae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la christi_fw-la fiant_fw-la cvi_fw-la christus_fw-la obtempe●ari_fw-la praecepit_fw-la ead_n apud_fw-la deum_fw-la laudem_fw-la habent_fw-la quam_fw-la cetera_fw-la pieratis_fw-la opera_fw-la id_fw-la autem_fw-la ingenue_n omnes_fw-la confitentur_fw-la in_fw-la ijs_fw-la fiduciam_fw-la saluvis_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la collocandam_fw-la idem_fw-la pag._n 869._o opinionem_fw-la falsam_fw-la cultus_fw-la meriti_fw-la necessitatis_fw-la pontisicij_fw-la ipsi_fw-la quibus_fw-la illam_fw-la assignat_fw-la mell._n non_fw-la agnoscunt_fw-la sed_fw-la fals●_n sibi_fw-la attribu●_fw-la dicunt_fw-la sic_fw-la thomas_n &_o b●el_n apud_fw-la cundem_fw-la pag_n 871.872_o idem_fw-la pa._n 875._o st._n huiusmodi_fw-la praerepterum_fw-la positivorun_v explicatione_n consideretur_fw-la haud_fw-la multum_fw-la ●_o consilio_fw-la sous_fw-fr exhortatione_n differre_fw-la comperientur_fw-la etc._n etc._n si_fw-mi quorundam_fw-la sentent_fw-fr a_o rigidior_fw-la high_a videtur_fw-la nemo_fw-la c●edo_fw-la ●rohibebit_fw-la mitiorem_fw-la sentennam_fw-la sequi_fw-la quae_fw-la a_o gersone_n ut_fw-la a_o multis_fw-la optimisque_fw-la viris_fw-la gersonem_fw-la imitantibus_fw-la ●xplicatur_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o hujusmodi_fw-la praeceptorum_fw-la transgre_fw-la tone_n in_o sole_a scandal_n &_o contemptu_fw-la peccatum_fw-la mortale_fw-la ●●ll●c●nt_fw-la idem_fw-la ibid._n alphonsus_n 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