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do_v true_o hold_v about_o this_o point_n which_o heretyk_n will_v never_o suffer_v their_o reader_n sincere_o to_o understand_v we_o shall_v come_v to_o examine_v what_o s_n r._n f._n repli_v to_o the_o discovery_n of_o all_o those_o cavil_n and_o falsehood_n wherein_o the_o warder_n take_v he_o trip_v they_o be_v four_o if_o you_o remember_v or_o will_v vouchsafe_v to_o look_v back_o upon_o they_o to_o all_o which_o he_o answer_v no_o one_o word_n in_o particular_a but_o only_o this_o in_o general_a what_o say_v i_o more_o in_o my_o accusation_n about_o 〈…〉_o know_v to_o be_v true_a 〈…〉_o a_o general_a answer_n it_o 〈…〉_o he_o mean_v i_o know_v not_o 〈…〉_o he_o have_v a_o world_n of_o 〈…〉_o he_o may_v have_v allege_v 〈…〉_o we_o in_o all_o this_o world_n 〈…〉_o one_o of_o these_o four_o 〈…〉_o which_o in_o this_o place_n be_v 〈…〉_o his_o charge_n by_o the_o warder_n and_o so_o have_v save_v his_o honour_n in_o this_o behalf_n but_o have_v produce_v none_o after_o so_o much_o brag_v in_o his_o watchword_n and_o so_o much_o battery_n in_o the_o wardword_n now_o to_o come_v and_o cry_v again_o that_o he_o have_v a_o world_n with_o he_o when_o the_o time_n have_v be_v to_o have_v bring_v some_o forth_o be_v a_o pitiful_a plight_n for_o so_o honourable_a a_o knight_n to_o see_v himself_o in_o but_o what_o do_v he_o answer_v nothing_o at_o all_o in_o particular_a think_v you_o to_o all_o these_o charge_n of_o untruth_n lay_v unto_o he_o but_o only_o that_o the_o whole_a world_n know_v his_o assertion_n to_o be_v true_a yes_o 69._o ibid._n pag._n 69._o for_o thus_o it_o follow_v in_o the_o same_o place_n the_o cath._n doctrine_n be_v as_o our_o champion_n say_v that_o the_o pope_n and_o church_n indulgence_n avayle_v not_o to_o remove_v mortal_a sin_n etc._n etc._n neither_o do_v the_o pardon_n remove_v the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n but_o sir_n whatsoever_o your_o doctrine_n be_v in_o this_o point_n your_o practice_n be_v quite_o contrary_a etc._n etc._n mark_v 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chief_a controversy_n handle_v in_o these_o two_o encounter_n in_o the_o first_o encounter_n who_o be_v proper_o catholyk_v and_o who_o heretyk_v by_o the_o old_a law_n of_o cath._n christian_n emperor_n and_o whether_o the_o law_n make_v against_o heretyk_n by_o these_o emperor_n do_v touch_v protestant_n or_o papist_n at_o this_o day_n in_o england_n annotat_fw-la upon_o the_o epist_n of_o o.e._n &_o cap._n 2._o num_fw-la 2._o how_o a_o man_n may_v make_v a_o most_o clear_a and_o evident_a deduction_n of_o cath._n religion_n by_o the_o foresaid_a imperial_a law_n if_o no_o other_o proof_n be_v and_o whether_o ever_o any_o christian_a be_v punishable_a before_o our_o time_n for_o stick_v to_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n in_o religion_n ibid._n num_fw-la 12.13.27.28_o etc._n etc._n how_o old_a christian_a emperor_n do_v promulgate_v law_n about_o religion_n &_o against_o the_o transgressor_n thereof_o &_o how_o different_a a_o thing_n it_o be_v from_o that_o which_o protestant_a prince_n 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high_a and_o divine_a power_n give_v to_o priest_n upon_o earth_n especial_o to_o the_o high_a priest_n ibid._n whether_o protestant_n have_v union_n among_o they_o or_o any_o mean_a to_o make_v union_n or_o to_o find_v out_o certainty_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n cap._n 4._o num_fw-la 10._o item_n cap._n 5.6.14.15.16.17_o what_o synod_n and_o counsel_n conference_n conventicle_n and_o other_o meeting_n protestant_n have_v have_v throughout_o the_o world_n to_o procure_v some_o show_n of_o union_n but_o eveâ—_o have_v depart_v more_o disagree_v then_o before_o cap._n 4._o num_fw-la 12.13_o whether_o lutheran_n and_o caluinist_n may_v any_o way_n be_v say_v to_o be_v brethren_n or_o of_o one_o church_n as_o both_o s._n f._n &_o john_n fox_n do_v hold_v cap._n 3_o 4.5_o etc._n etc._n whether_o zwinglian_o and_o caluinist_n and_o other_o sacramentary_a protestans_fw-la be_v true_o heretic_n according_a to_o the_o judgement_n and_o sentence_n of_o martin_n luther_n and_o what_o blessing_n he_o give_v they_o as_o to_o bastard_n child_n ca._n 5._o n._n 1.2.3_o etc._n etc._n whether_o english_a protestant_n and_o puritan_n do_v agree_v in_o jesus_n christ_n crucify_v as_o s._n f._n say_v or_o may_v be_v account_v true_a brethren_n &_o of_o one_o church_n ca._n 6._o &_o 10_o n._n 8._o etc._n etc._n 12._o n._n 6._o whether_o liberty_n for_o all_o unlearned_a to_o read_v scripture_n in_o english_a without_o difference_n or_o restraint_n be_v a_o blessing_n or_o a_o curse_n profitable_a or_o hurtful_a to_o the_o people_n ca._n 8._o &_o enc._n 2._o c._n 3._o whether_o publyke_a service_n in_o english_a be_v a_o hurt_n or_o benefit_n to_o all_o sort_n of_o people_n cap._n 8._o num_fw-la 7._o &_o cap._n 9_o whether_o and_o how_o the_o merit_n of_o holy_a man_n may_v stand_v with_o merit_n &_o satisfaction_n of_o christ._n cap._n 9_o num_fw-la 7.8.9_o whether_o abundance_n of_o good_a work_n be_v a_o peculiar_a blessing_n of_o protestant_n or_o no_o as_o s._n f._n defend_v cap._n 10._o n._n 2.3_o 4.5_o &_o cap._n 17._o &_o 18._o whether_o english_a nobility_n and_o commonalty_n be_v rich_a at_o this_o day_n then_o in_o old_a time_n by_o change_n of_o religion_n cap._n 11._o num_fw-la 7.8.9_o etc._n etc._n whether_o it_o be_v a_o special_a grace_n and_o bless_a nature_n of_o protestant_n to_o persecute_v no_o man_n for_o religion_n cap._n 10._o whether_o freedom_n from_o exaction_n long_a peace_n great_a power_n in_o other_o country_n great_a wealth_n of_o the_o land_n and_o more_o abundant_a multiply_v of_o child_n then_o before_o be_v special_a benefit_n and_o benediction_n bring_v into_o england_n by_o change_n of_o religion_n cap._n 11._o whether_o the_o universal_a church_n may_v be_v say_v proper_o to_o teach_v we_o or_o no_o which_o o._n e._n deni_v cap._n 11._o num_fw-la 12._o whether_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n be_v a_o new_a invention_n or_o no_o and_o whether_o the_o number_n of_o 7._o sacrament_n be_v not_o agree_v on_o before_o the_o late_a council_n of_o trent_n as_o o.e._n affirm_v cap._n 13._o num_fw-la 7.8.9.10_o etc._n etc._n how_o far_o catholyke_a man_n do_v depend_v of_o the_o pope_n for_o the_o certainty_n of_o their_o religion_n ca._n 16._o n._n 17.18.19_o enc._n 2._o c._n 13._o n._n 16._o whether_o any_o one_o new_a or_o old_a heresy_n can_v be_v prove_v true_o to_o be_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o papist_n at_o this_o day_n and_o how_o that_o there_o be_v many_o proper_o and_o formal_o hold_v by_o protestant_n cap._n 16._o num_fw-la 20._o what_o difference_n of_o doctrine_n or_o opinion_n may_v be_v among_o cath._n man_n without_o heresy_n or_o breach_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a father_n cap._n 16._o num_fw-la 6._o how_o contemptuous_o the_o protestant_n do_v speak_v not_o only_o of_o the_o old_a father_n but_o also_o of_o their_o own_o writer_n when_o they_o make_v against_o they_o cap._n 17._o num_fw-la 17._o whether_o temporal_a blessing_n enter_v into_o england_n 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no_o cap._n 3._o num_fw-la 5.6_o etc._n etc._n whether_o john_n husse_v and_o martin_n luther_n offer_v disputation_n to_o catholyk_n or_o no_o and_o whether_o they_o be_v of_o one_o and_o thesame_a religion_n or_o that_o any_o of_o they_o do_v agree_v full_o with_o s._n francis_n and_o o._n e._n in_o their_o religion_n now_o profess_v cap._n 3._o &_o 4._o whether_o the_o catholyk_n or_o hugonote_v minister_n in_o the_o conference_n at_o poysy_n in_o france_n anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1561._o have_v the_o better_a cap_n 4._o num_fw-la 14._o whether_o catholyk_n do_v ever_o hold_v it_o for_o heresy_n to_o read_v scripture_n in_o english_a or_o have_v ever_o put_v man_n or_o woman_n to_o death_n for_o that_o fact_n only_o cap._n 4._o &_o 5._o &_o 6._o num_fw-la 12._o &_o 15._o &_o cap._n 9_o num_fw-la 3._o whether_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v use_v to_o pray_v to_o saint_n and_o
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which_o be_v the_o proper_a idolator_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n that_o adore_v their_o own_o fancy_n selfe-wil_a and_o judgment_n all_o other_o external_a idolatry_n be_v abolish_v by_o christ_n come_v and_o his_o religion_n who_o proper_a work_n be_v prophesy_v to_o be_v to_o destroy_v idolatry_n all_o this_o then_o be_v against_o himself_o as_o most_o clear_o may_v be_v show_v by_o exposition_n of_o all_o antiquity_n if_o we_o have_v time_n to_o stand_v thereon_o but_o above_o all_o the_o rest_n most_o notorious_o against_o himself_o be_v his_o discourse_n that_o follow_v wherein_o true_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_v both_o at_o his_o folly_n and_o impudence_n in_o set_v it_o down_o his_o word_n be_v these_o and_o i_o pray_v the_o gentle_a reader_n note_v the_o whole_a matter_n to_o the_o effect_n before_o mentyon_v of_o punish_v catholic_n 7._o rom._n 16._o pag._n 7._o the_o apostle_n say_v he_o writing_n to_o the_o roman_n exhort_v they_o to_o mark_v such_o diligent_o as_o shall_v cause_v division_n and_o offence_n among_o they_o contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n which_o they_o have_v learn_v and_o to_o avoid_v they_o the_o emperor_n gratiâ—m_n valentinian_n and_o theodosius_n put_v heretical_a teacher_n to_o perpetual_a silence_n 62._o â—_o omnâ—s_n cod_n de_fw-fr haeret_fw-la &_o maâ—ich_a cuncti_fw-la ibid._n atriani_fw-la ibid._n lib._n 1._o contr_n ep._n parmen_fw-la c._n 6._o &_o â—p_n 166_o &_o ep_v 62._o and_o charge_v inferior_a officer_n not_o to_o wink_v at_o they_o arcadius_n &_o honorius_n depâ—yved_v they_o of_o all_o exercise_n of_o their_o false_a religion_n theodosius_n and_o valentinian_n the_o young_a banish_a arrian_n manichee_n and_o all_o heretic_n out_o of_o the_o roman_a empire_n and_o for_o this_o cause_n do_v s._n augustine_n high_o commend_v the_o emperor_n justice_n and_o teach_v that_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o all_o heretical_a teacher_n shall_v be_v repress_v and_o correct_v loe_o here_o his_o discourse_n which_o first_o you_o must_v understand_v be_v quite_o contrary_a to_o sir_n f._n hastings_n who_o in_o the_o sixth_o encounter_n affirm_v s._n augustine_n sentence_n and_o word_n to_o be_v that_o it_o never_o please_v any_o good_a man_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n 6._o 〈◊〉_d 6._o that_o heretic_n shall_v be_v put_v to_o death_n which_o there_o i_o do_v refute_v by_o diverse_a evident_a testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n himself_o and_o do_v show_v the_o place_n by_o he_o to_o be_v egregious_o falsify_v and_o here_o it_o be_v contradict_v also_o by_o his_o champion_n o._n e._n who_o say_v that_o s._n augustine_n high_o commend_v the_o emperor_n justice_n and_o albeit_o he_o say_v only_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o heretical_a preacher_n shall_v be_v repress_v and_o correct_v yet_o that_o the_o say_v emperor_n justice_n pass_v further_o appear_v clear_o by_o the_o decree_n of_o theodosius_n and_o valentinian_n who_o word_n be_v manichaeis_n etiam_fw-la ex_fw-la civitate_fw-la pellendis_fw-la arâ—ian_n cod._n lib._n 1._o cit_fw-la 5_o leg_n arâ—ian_n &_o ultimo_fw-la supplicio_fw-la tradendis_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o the_o manichee_n shall_v not_o only_o be_v dryven_v out_o of_o the_o city_n but_o also_o be_v put_v to_o death_n and_o thus_o much_o for_o a_o note_n of_o contradiction_n among_o themselves_o to_o wit_v the_o knight_n and_o his_o champion_n &_o now_o to_o the_o matter_n by_o o._n e._n here_o treat_v which_o contain_v principal_a point_n at_o you_o see_v that_o will_v require_v a_o long_a treatise_n if_o i_o shall_v handle_v they_o all_o at_o large_a the_o first_o be_v out_o of_o s._n paul_n the_o second_o out_o of_o the_o emperor_n decree_n the_o three_o out_o of_o s._n augustine_n all_o against_o himself_o i_o shall_v say_v a_o word_n or_o two_o of_o each_o one_o in_o order_n and_o thereby_o vow_n shall_v discern_v the_o man_n judgement_n himself_o s._n paul_n allege_v by_o o._n e._n against_o himself_o the_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n be_v direct_o against_o sectary_n that_o make_v division_n among_o they_o that_o be_v in_o peace_n and_o unity_n of_o religion_n before_o and_o do_v bring_v in_o new_a doctrine_n different_a from_o that_o which_o they_o have_v learned_a and_o receive_v public_o before_o which_o make_v the_o case_n of_o our_o controversy_n very_o clear_a for_o whether_o martin_n luther_n vldericus_n zuinglius_fw-la john_n caluyn_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o crew_n have_v do_v this_o or_o no_o in_o our_o age_n and_o whether_o the_o protestant_n in_o england_n find_v catholic_n in_o peace_n and_o unity_n have_v do_v like_o office_n in_o bring_v in_o new_a opinion_n and_o dissension_n which_o be_v not_o before_o let_v all_o the_o world_n judge_v sure_o i_o be_o they_o can_v say_v that_o we_o find_v they_o in_o unity_n do_v trouble_v their_o peace_n or_o go_v out_o from_o they_o so_o as_o this_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n be_v whole_o against_o themselves_o and_o this_o to_o the_o first_o point_n the_o second_o for_o we_o and_o against_o they_o be_v of_o the_o emperor_n decree_n against_o heretic_n cite_v by_o this_o minister_n and_o it_o be_v strange_a that_o ever_o he_o world_n bring_v they_o in_o but_o that_o of_o all_o other_o protestant_n that_o ever_o write_v this_o fellow_n seem_v the_o most_o impudent_a it_o may_v be_v for_o that_o he_o go_v mask_v o.e._n emperor_n decree_n allege_v against_o himself_o and_o he_o by_o o.e._n he_o blush_v not_o to_o affirm_v that_o which_o all_o his_o fellow_n have_v deny_v until_o this_o day_n as_o after_o you_o shall_v see_v in_o a_o number_n of_o point_n and_o here_o now_o i_o will_v ask_v he_o why_o he_o bring_v in_o these_o emperor_n decree_n of_o punish_a heretic_n what_o heretic_n they_o be_v how_o they_o be_v defyne_v by_o what_o they_o be_v distinguish_v from_o catholic_n why_o and_o for_o what_o cause_v they_o be_v punish_v the_o decree_n begin_v thus_o arriani_n macedoniani_n etc._n etc._n arrian_n haereticia_fw-la leg._n arriani_n cod._n de_fw-fr haereticia_fw-la macedonian_n apollinarian_o novatians_n sabatians_n valentinian_o montanist_n donatist_n and_o the_o like_a name_v in_o this_o place_n to_o the_o number_n of_o 34._o be_v command_v to_o be_v punish_v for_o heretic_n by_o these_o catholic_a emperor_n theodosian_a and_o valentinian_n in_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 428._o and_o in_o the_o very_a next_o decree_n after_o they_o say_v thus_o damnato_fw-la portentosae_fw-la superstitionis_fw-la authore_fw-la nestorio_n damâ—â—â—â—_n cod._n lib._n 1._o â—â—t_n â—â—g_v damâ—â—â—â—_n etc._n etc._n see_v that_o nestorius_n the_o author_n of_o a_o most_o monstrous_a superstition_n for_o say_v that_o the_o bless_a virgin_n be_v not_o mother_n of_o god_n but_o of_o man_n only_o be_v now_o condemn_v by_o the_o late_a council_n of_o ephesus_n we_o will_v that_o his_o follower_n have_v the_o note_n of_o a_o fit_a name_n duâ—_n unto_o they_o to_o wit_n that_o they_o be_v call_v not_o christian_n but_o nestorian_n of_o nestorius_n as_o the_o follower_n of_o arrius_n be_v call_v by_o the_o law_n of_o constantyne_n our_o predecessor_n of_o happy_a memory_n arrian_n and_o the_o follower_n of_o the_o sect_n and_o heresy_n of_o porphirius_fw-la porphirians_fw-la etc._n etc._n this_o be_v their_o sentence_n for_o name_v heretic_n after_o their_o author_n etc._n name_n of_o lutheran_n caluinist_n etc._n etc._n and_o do_v you_o not_o think_v that_o if_o luther_n zwinglius_fw-la and_o caluyn_n have_v be_v in_o their_o day_n also_o and_o have_v raise_v such_o a_o company_n of_o sectarye_n after_o they_o as_o they_o do_v will_v they_o not_o have_v call_v they_o as_o we_o do_v lutheran_n zwinglians_n &_o caluinist_n yes_o true_o for_o that_o by_o any_o other_o name_n they_o can_v not_o be_v understand_v but_o hear_v yet_o a_o further_a distinction_n give_v by_o the_o same_o emperor_n between_o heretic_n &_o catholic_n qâ—cunque_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la sacra_fw-la urbe_fw-la etc._n etc._n whosoever_o in_o this_o holy_a city_n etc._n etc._n or_o other_o wheâ—e_n
lib_n de_fw-fr praescrip_n contr_n hâ—r_n cap._n 1â—_n fides_n in_o regulae_fw-la posita_fw-la est_fw-la cedat_fw-la curiositas_fw-la fides_fw-la certè_fw-la aut_fw-la non_fw-la obstrepant_fw-la aut_fw-la quiescant_fw-la adversus_fw-la regulam_fw-la etc._n etc._n faith_n consist_v in_o rule_n let_v curiosity_n yield_v to_o faith_n and_o let_v heretic_n either_o not_o prate_v or_o be_v silent_a against_o this_o rule_n so_o say_v he_o and_o in_o a_o other_o place_n if_o say_v he_o we_o will_v doubt_v or_o ask_v question_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n let_v we_o inquyre_v oâ—_n our_o own_o man_n to_o wit_n catholykes_n ibid._n ibid._n and_o in_o such_o matter_n as_o salua_fw-la regula_fw-la fidei_fw-la possit_fw-la in_o quaestiâ—nem_fw-la devenire_fw-la which_o without_o breach_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n may_v be_v call_v into_o controversy_n by_o all_o which_o say_n we_o see_v of_o what_o account_n this_o rule_n of_o faith_n be_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o that_o it_o contain_v in_o deed_n the_o very_a sum_n and_o corpse_n of_o christian_a doctrine_n deliver_v at_o the_o begin_n by_o the_o miracle_n &_o preach_n of_o the_o apostle_n 1â—_n 1._o cor._n 1â—_n whereof_o s._n paul_n say_v to_o the_o corinthian_n sic_fw-la praedicavimus_fw-la sic_fw-la credidistis_fw-la so_o we_o have_v preach_v and_o so_o you_o have_v believe_v and_o afterward_o partly_o by_o writing_n and_o partly_o by_o tradition_n continue_v and_o conserve_v to_o posterity_n by_o the_o general_a consent_n and_o succession_n of_o the_o catholyke_a church_n and_o her_o governor_n and_o among_o other_o thing_n this_o rule_n contain_v the_o symboâ—um_n or_o creed_n of_o the_o apostle_n 12._o what_o the_o old_a rule_n of_o faith_n contain_v tert._n lib._n count_n heres_fw-la cap._n 13._o rom._n 12._o tertullian_n express_o testify_v and_o besides_o this_o it_o comprehend_v many_o thing_n more_o in_o particular_a as_o explication_n of_o diverse_a hide_a mystery_n with_o direction_n how_o to_o understand_v scripture_n as_o be_v plain_a by_o s._n paul_n before_o allege_v where_o he_o will_v have_v prophesy_v or_o exposition_n of_o scripture_n to_o be_v according_a to_o the_o anology_n &_o proportion_n of_o this_o rule_n of_o faith_n to_o wit_n that_o no_o exposition_n shall_v be_v make_v according_a to_o the_o private_a spirit_n of_o any_o man_n but_o according_a to_o that_o faith_n and_o belief_n which_o before_o be_v general_o receyve_v 1._o 2._o pet._n 1._o as_o s._n peter_n express_o advise_v we_o whereby_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v as_o say_v epiphanius_n that_o no_o heretyke_a can_v ever_o put_v up_o his_o head_n and_o begin_v any_o thing_n against_o this_o rule_n but_o that_o present_o by_o the_o force_n thereof_o he_o be_v discover_v and_o discomfyte_v even_o as_o now_o o.e._n in_o this_o place_n as_o you_o see_v go_v about_o to_o reject_v puritan_n and_o exclude_v they_o from_o his_o society_n for_o that_o they_o dissent_v from_o his_o particular_a new_a rule_n establish_v by_o a_o few_o in_o the_o church_n &_o parliament_n of_o england_n &_o this_o rule_n of_o his_o make_v but_o yesterday_o and_o by_o a_o few_o and_o not_o yet_o thorough_o agree_v upon_o among_o themselves_o be_v think_v of_o such_o force_n as_o it_o can_v exclude_v &_o reject_v so_o many_o learned_a of_o their_o own_o side_n how_o much_o more_o the_o ancient_a rule_n make_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o continue_v ever_o since_o by_o all_o the_o catholyke_a world_n be_v sufficient_a to_o condemn_v all_o new_a sectary_n of_o our_o time_n that_o dare_v jangle_n against_o it_o and_o this_o may_v be_v sufficient_a for_o declaration_n of_o this_o rule_n the_o antiquity_n force_n &_o use_v thereof_o but_o that_o i_o can_v not_o well_o omit_v a_o piece_n of_o one_o example_n out_o of_o old_a tertulian_n above_o 14._o hundred_o year_n ago_o who_o after_o the_o word_n before_o cite_v where_o he_o say_v this_o rule_n be_v the_o fullness_n of_o the_o apostle_n preach_v and_o note_v that_o he_o say_v preach_v and_o not_o wryre_v come_v down_o in_o the_o church_n by_o dissent_n and_o tradition_n he_o not_o only_o teach_v but_o use_v also_o the_o same_o rule_n &_o the_o eminent_a force_n thereof_o against_o all_o heretic_n of_o his_o time_n who_o as_o we_o do_v now_o pretend_v that_o this_o rule_n &_o corpse_n of_o faith_n deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n may_v perchance_o be_v corrupt_v alter_v misunderstand_v or_o change_v by_o their_o successor_n and_o that_o the_o late_a church_n be_v not_o so_o pure_a as_o the_o former_a and_o consequent_o this_o rule_n so_o much_o urge_v of_o tradition_n and_o universal_a consent_n may_v not_o be_v infallible_a to_o which_o absurdity_n after_o many_o other_o reason_n &_o reprehension_n tertulian_n say_v as_o follow_v 26._o tertul_n lib._n the_o pâ—esâ—_n contr_n haeret_fw-la cap._n 26._o age_fw-la nunc_fw-la omnes_fw-la erraverint_fw-la etc._n etc._n go_v to_o now_o let_v we_o grant_v that_o all_o church_n or_o the_o most_o of_o they_o after_o the_o apostle_n have_v err_v &_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n send_v for_o this_o cause_n by_o christ_n heretic_n a_o notable_a discourse_n of_o old_a tertul._n against_o all_o heretic_n and_o for_o this_o cause_n demand_v of_o his_o father_n to_o be_v the_o teacher_n of_o truth_n unto_o they_o have_v not_o respect_v they_o and_o that_o this_o steward_n of_o god_n and_o vicar_n of_o christ_n have_v neglect_v his_o office_n upon_o earth_n permit_v the_o church_n of_o christianity_n to_o believe_v otherwise_o and_o to_o understand_v matter_n different_o from_o that_o which_o the_o self_n same_o holy_a ghost_n do_v preach_v by_o the_o apostle_n but_o tell_v mâ—_n be_v it_o likely_a that_o so_o many_o &_o so_o great_a church_n over_o christendom_n have_v all_o err_v and_o yet_o have_v agree_v in_o one_o faith_n error_n of_o doctrine_n by_o all_o liklihood_n will_v have_v bring_v in_o as_o it_o have_v do_v among_o protestant_n variety_n also_o of_o doctrine_n among_o those_o church_n but_o that_o which_o it_o find_v to_o be_v one_o traditâ—_n quod_fw-la apud_fw-la multos_fw-la unâ—_n invenituâ—_n not_o est_fw-fr erratuâ—â—_n sed_fw-la traditâ—_n and_o the_o self_n same_o among_o many_o be_v not_o to_o be_v think_v to_o come_v by_o error_n but_o by_o tradition_n and_o can_v any_o man_n dare_v to_o say_v that_o they_o do_v err_v who_o leave_v behind_o they_o those_o tradition_n but_o howsoever_o you_o shall_v call_v it_o error_n yet_o this_o error_n reign_v for_o truth_n until_o heresy_n rise_v up_o to_o impugn_v it_o belike_o truth_n be_v oppress_v expect_v the_o come_n of_o marcâ—onithes_n and_o valâ—ntinians_n to_o deliver_v she_o out_o of_o captivity_n and_o in_o the_o mean_a space_n all_o preach_v be_v in_o error_n protestanâ—â—_n a_o scorn_n of_o tertullian_n fall_v just_o upon_o protestanâ—â—_n all_o believe_v in_o error_n so_o many_o thousand_o of_o thousand_o baptize_v in_o error_n so_o many_o good_a work_v of_o faith_n do_v in_o error_n so_o many_o virtue_n so_o many_o grace_n &_o miracle_n wrought_v in_o error_n so_o many_o priesthood_n and_o mystery_n exercise_v in_o error_n and_o final_o so_o many_o martyrdom_n crown_v by_o error_n etc._n etc._n thus_o far_o and_o much_o far_a pass_v on_o tertullian_n to_o urge_v and_o convince_v the_o heretic_n of_o his_o age_n by_o force_n of_o this_o rule_n deliver_v by_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n receyve_v by_o christendom_n and_o conserve_v by_o the_o apostle_n successor_n unto_o his_o time_n and_o the_o same_o rule_n of_o general_a consent_n deliver_v by_o succession_n of_o bishop_n do_v urge_v all_o old_a ancient_a father_n in_o like_a sort_n each_o one_o in_o his_o age_n after_o tertullian_n 27._o august_n vine_n lyâ—_n lib._n contr_n heres_fw-la cap._n 27._o but_o in_o steed_n of_o all_o let_v s._n augustine_n be_v red_a urge_v this_o rule_n against_o all_o sort_n of_o heretic_n but_o especial_o and_o more_o large_o against_o the_o donatest_n and_o pelagian_n and_o after_o he_o again_o the_o very_a next_o age_n vincentius_n lirenensis_fw-la who_o after_o a_o long_a discourse_n to_o this_o purpose_n urge_v the_o word_n of_o s._n paul_n to_o timothy_n 6._o 1._o tim._n 6._o o_o timothee_n depositum_fw-la custodâ—_n etc._n etc._n o_o tymothy_n keep_v well_o thy_o pledge_n or_o pawn_n leave_v with_o thou_o which_o pawn_n as_o well_o this_o father_n as_o the_o rest_n do_v interpret_v to_o be_v the_o foresaid_a rule_n of_o tradition_n of_o faith_n quid_fw-la est_fw-la depositum_fw-la say_v he_o what_o be_v the_o pledge_n or_o pawn_n leave_v by_o the_o apostle_n with_o timothy_n and_o other_o bishop_n of_o the_o church_n and_o he_o answer_v present_o id_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la tibi_fw-la creditum_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la quod_fw-la a_o te_fw-la inventum_fw-la quod_fw-la accepist_n non_fw-la quod_fw-la excogitasti_fw-la rem_fw-la non_fw-la ingenij_fw-la sed_fw-la doctrine_n non_fw-la usurpâ—tionis_fw-la privatae_fw-la sed_fw-la publicae_fw-la traditionis_fw-la rem_fw-la ad_fw-la te_fw-la perductam_fw-la non_fw-la a_o
and_o other_o like_a of_o which_o 〈◊〉_d of_o diversity_n tertullian_n speak_v a_o little_a beâ—ore_n 〈◊〉_d he_o say_v quaeramus_fw-la à _fw-la nostris_fw-la pâ—â—ced_v tâ—â—ul_a cap._n pâ—â—ced_v quae_fw-la salua_fw-la fidei_fw-la regâ—â—â—_n quaestionem_fw-la possâ—nt_fw-la devenire_fw-la let_v we_o call_v in_o questiâ—â—_n or_o dispute_n among_o ourselves_o and_o with_o 〈◊〉_d own_o man_n to_o wit_n catholykes_n such_o poâ—â—_n of_o religion_n as_o may_v come_v in_o controversy_n without_o breach_n oâ—_n the_o integrity_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n and_o with_o this_o only_a distinction_n of_o old_a tertullian_n of_o the_o different_a dispute_v among_o catholykes_n and_o heretic_n the_o one_o without_o touch_v the_o integrity_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n the_o other_o direct_o opposite_a against_o that_o integrity_n by_o this_o only_o i_o say_v all_o the_o vain_a prate_n and_o babble_n of_o our_o adversary_n that_o fill_v up_o leaf_n with_o difference_n among_o our_o 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〈◊〉_d exclude_v they_o from_o trial_n by_o scripture_n â—herof_o they_o brag_v and_o whereunto_o they_o â—ould_v seem_v to_o run_v as_o we_o do_v now_o adays_o 〈◊〉_d this_o he_o do_v from_o the_o 17._o chapter_n downward_o and_o before_o he_o enter_v into_o this_o demonstration_n he_o use_v this_o preamble_n ipsi_fw-la de_fw-fr scriptuâ—agunt_n the_o scripture_n suadent_fw-la scripturas_fw-la obtendunt_fw-la â—c_z &_o hac_fw-la sva_fw-la andacia_fw-la statim_fw-la quosdam_fw-la movent_fw-la heretic_n do_v treat_v of_o scriptureâ—_n do_v persuade_v out_o scripture_n do_v pretend_v scripture_n and_o with_o be_v their_o audacytie_n do_v move_v some_o people_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o very_a book_n allege_v by_o our_o miâ—â—â—ter_n out_o of_o tertullian_n de_fw-fr resurrectione_n caruis_fw-la show_v that_o heretic_n be_v great_a scripture_n â—n_o but_o to_o pervert_v and_o not_o to_o understand_v they_o aright_o and_o that_o without_o scripture_n no_o heresy_n can_v be_v found_v 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