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they_o and_o you_o a_o unmeasurable_a distance_n intervallum_fw-la distance_n calvin_n lib._n devera_fw-la eccles_n reform_v extat_fw-la in_o tractat._n theolog_fw-la calvini_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 389._o utrumque_fw-la illis_fw-la concedo_fw-la veteres_fw-la non_fw-la mâ—do_fw-la sacriâ—iciâ—â—oce_fw-la abuser_n esse_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la caeremoniâ_fw-la verum_fw-la sireputemus_fw-la quantum_fw-la a_o veterum_fw-la corruptelâ_fw-la distet_fw-la quae_fw-la nunc_fw-la abipsis_fw-la fucatur_fw-la â—â—pietas_fw-la immensum_fw-la est_fw-la ferè_fw-la intervallum_fw-la and_o therefore_o the_o jesuite_n abuse_v their_o adversary_n in_o make_v they_o to_o impute_v that_o to_o the_o father_n which_o they_o know_v these_o never_o hold_v whereby_o the_o jesuit_n may_v see_v how_o vain_a he_o be_v in_o make_v we_o to_o be_v enemy_n of_o this_o mystery_n when_o we_o only_o oppose_v their_o popish_a innovation_n and_o defile_n of_o so_o sacred_a a_o institution_n and_o whereas_o the_o 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dare_v not_o speak_v of_o justice_n or_o righteousness_n in_o regard_n they_o neither_o love_v nor_o practise_v it_o diligunt_fw-la it_o aâ—lfric_n serm_n ad_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la ms._n in_o biblioth_n colleg._n benedict_n cantabrig_n his_o diebus_fw-la tanta_fw-la negligentia_fw-la est_fw-la in_o sacerdotibus_fw-la &_o episcopis_fw-la qui_fw-la deberent_fw-la esse_fw-la â—oâ—umnae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la ut_fw-la 〈◊〉_d non_fw-la audent_fw-la de_fw-fr justitia_fw-la loqui_fw-la qui_fw-la justitiam_fw-la nec_fw-la faciunt_fw-la nec_fw-la diligunt_fw-la but_o the_o jesuite_n think_v all_o be_v well_o if_o prince_n and_o prelate_n be_v defile_v together_o yet_o wernerus_n their_o own_a carthusian_n may_v assure_v we_o that_o our_o jesuite_n put_v prince_n causeless_o into_o a_o lewd_a company_n when_o as_o he_o couple_v they_o with_o pope_n for_o he_o tell_v we_o it_o be_v most_o apparent_a that_o holiness_n have_v leave_v the_o pope_n and_o flee_v to_o the_o emperor_n apparet_fw-la 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god_n by_o the_o triumph_n of_o his_o bless_a death_n and_o martyrdom_n â—â—_o martyrdom_n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o we_o tell_v he_o that_o when_o he_o attempt_v to_o prove_v it_o he_o shall_v not_o want_v his_o answer_n that_o peter_n be_v at_o rome_n preach_v there_o be_v crucify_v it_o be_v not_o much_o to_o grant_v he_o but_o that_o he_o be_v there_o such_o a_o bishop_n as_o linus_n etc._n etc._n he_o can_v prove_v some_o make_v he_o such_o a_o bishop_n as_o paul_n be_v other_o make_v he_o nonâ—_n at_o all_o but_o the_o jesuite_n charge_v the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n with_o judge_v according_a to_o the_o flesh_n when_o he_o make_v the_o apostle_n death_n and_o martyrdom_n a_o slender_a cause_n why_o peter_n shall_v respect_v she_o so_o much_o and_o further_o tell_v we_o that_o sure_o it_o be_v no_o slender_a cause_n for_o the_o catholic_a church_n to_o sing_v therefore_o of_o she_o with_o solemn_a joy_n in_o this_o sort_n thrice_o happy_a rome_n that_o with_o the_o purple_a blood_n of_o such_o great_a prince_n stand_v adorn_v and_o blesâ—_n not_o thy_o own_o worth_n but_o their_o deserve_a good_a crown_n theâ—_n on_o earth_n the_o fair_a and_o the_o best_a 62._o best_a reply_v pag._n 61_o &_o 62._o this_o most_o grave_a and_o reverend_a lord_n i_o confess_v have_v nor_o as_o some_o of_o you_o can_v have_v wish_v put_v off_o the_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d man_n in_o the_o jesuitical_a form_n â—â—â—_o form_n hassen_n mullerus_n de_fw-fr votis_n jesuitarum_fw-la c._n 6_o si_fw-la nobiles_fw-la illoâ—â—m_fw-la societatem_fw-la ingrediantur_fw-la &_o habitu_fw-la veniant_fw-la splendido_fw-la ac_fw-la precioâ—o_fw-la permittunt_fw-la â—t_a triduum_fw-la eâ—m_fw-la reservent_fw-la quo_fw-la lapso_fw-la cum_fw-la â—â—ponere_fw-la alteri_fw-la dare_v &_o societatis_fw-la habitum_fw-la endure_v jubenâ—â—â—_n et_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la secundùm_fw-la illos_fw-la veterem_fw-la exuere_fw-la 〈◊〉_d seipâ—â—m_fw-la mottiâ—â—cais_fw-fr &_o alteri_fw-la suâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—_o neither_o as_o your_o pope_n have_v interpret_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o epist_n 3._o ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d the_o apostle_n â—_o rom_n 8._o â—_o â—_o â—_o but_o as_o god_n himself_o have_v command_v wherein_o the_o world_n be_v his_o witness_n and_o i_o think_v it_o but_o time_n spend_v to_o justify_v he_o but_o let_v the_o jesuite_n prove_v this_o argument_n to_o be_v convince_a if_o he_o be_v able_a his_o sing_n and_o other_o passage_n will_v not_o work_v the_o feat_n the_o saint_n in_o rome_n we_o know_v as_o the_o church_n otherwhere_o be_v much_o confirm_v by_o the_o patient_a suffering_n of_o the_o martyr_n but_o this_o do_v not_o excuse_n much_o less_o lift_v up_o rome_n do_v abel_n blood_n that_o â—â—yed_v for_o vengeance_n plead_v then_o for_o glory_n do_v innocent_a blood_n theâ—_n advance_v your_o monarchy_n that_o now_o you_o make_v yourselves_o drink_v with_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o saint_n jerusalem_n lose_v heâ—_n crown_n by_o the_o prophet_n blood_n must_v the_o apostle_n triple_a rome_n yet_o if_o rome_n get_v such_o a_o height_n in_o martyr_v the_o servant_n what_o may_v jerusalem_n plead_v that_o crucify_v the_o lord_n these_o you_o see_v be_v silly_a invention_n but_o the_o strong_a pillar_n of_o the_o roman_a faith_n the_o jesuite_n have_v do_v his_o doe_n yet_o he_o tell_v we_o much_o more_o may_v be_v say_v and_o now_o entreat_v the_o gentle_a reader_n to_o trophy_n he_o for_o his_o victory_n but_o he_o have_v not_o yet_o cure_v the_o wound_n that_o have_v be_v give_v he_o though_o he_o conceit_v all_o fair_a smooth_a and_o without_o scar_n he_o have_v labour_v to_o make_v father_n and_o saint_n the_o pope_n servingman_n the_o world_n his_o city_n heaven_n the_o church_n and_o purgatory_n his_o province_n but_o as_o you_o see_v all_o in_o vain_a the_o downright_a blow_n he_o persuade_v himself_o to_o be_v give_v we_o feel_v not_o our_o shield_n be_v not_o pierce_v neither_o be_v the_o least_o of_o our_o bull_n work_v overthrow_v sect_n ix_o this_o section_n show_v that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v overshoot_v himself_o in_o a_o term_n will_v now_o make_v it_o good_a by_o a_o interpretation_n and_o thereupon_o he_o inquire_v whether_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n may_v
right_o be_v term_v unspotted_a or_o no_o 6â—_n no_o reply_v pag._n 6â—_n in_o discuss_v whereof_o he_o dare_v not_o free_a this_o church_n of_o his_o so_o much_o adore_v from_o all_o spot_n but_o only_o those_o which_o be_v of_o misbelief_n 6â—_n misbelief_n reply_v pag._n 6â—_n and_o spot_n of_o misbelief_n who_o spot_n can_v they_o be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n foâ—_n that_o company_n which_o beleive_v not_o aright_o can_v be_v esteem_v the_o church_n universal_a or_o particular_a so_o that_o every_o pure_a church_n in_o this_o sense_n have_v equal_a privilege_n though_o he_o pretend_v it_o for_o the_o only_a triumph_n of_o the_o roman_a 〈◊〉_d every_o man_n for_o â—e_v that_o be_v a_o heretic_n true_o &_o 〈◊〉_d by_o 〈◊〉_d appellation_n 〈◊〉_d be_v 〈◊〉_d of_o christ_n neither_o of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o jesuites_n preface_n be_v full_a of_o confidence_n as_o the_o answerer_n provoke_v i_o to_o the_o former_a disputation_n though_o i_o ween_v to_o his_o smart_n so_o do_v he_o give_v i_o the_o like_a occasion_n to_o buckle_v with_o he_o in_o this_o 6â—_n this_o reply_v pag._n 6â—_n who_o have_v we_o here_o hercules_n with_o his_o distasse_fw-la smart_n your_o father_n and_o fellow_n use_v not_o to_o make_v such_o worthy_n smart_n you_o have_v rather_o destroy_v then_o wound_v man_n of_o his_o quality_n but_o where_o or_o when_o be_v this_o smart_n give_v i_o be_o sure_a wound_n or_o scar_n we_o see_v none_o sure_o the_o jesuite_n have_v be_v chaplain_n to_o the_o knight_n errant_a that_o fight_v sleep_v that_o conquer_v in_o his_o dream_n otherwise_o he_o can_v not_o stand_v so_o fortify_v with_o imagination_n as_o he_o here_o appear_v nemo_fw-la alieno_fw-la sensu_fw-la est_fw-la miser_n he_o feel_v nothing_o he_o complain_v not_o it_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o he_o smart_v because_o you_o conceit_n that_o you_o have_v give_v he_o a_o wound_n this_o have_v declare_v your_o desire_n but_o not_o manifest_v the_o event_n you_o presume_v of_o but_o the_o jesuite_n seem_v to_o promise_v as_o much_o in_o this_o section_n because_o in_o a_o twit_v fashion_n the_o answerer_n say_v that_o he_o not_o only_o confound_v urbem_fw-la &_o orbem_fw-la but_o also_o mingle_v heaven_n and_o earth_n together_o by_o give_v the_o title_n of_o unspotted_a unto_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o romeâ—_n â—_z 62_o reply_v pag_n 62_o have_v not_o this_o just_a charge_n a_o just_a ground_n if_o unspotted_a be_v a_o property_n belong_v to_o the_o triumphant_a church_n can_v it_o without_o confusion_n be_v attribute_v to_o any_o church_n upon_o earth_n how_o this_o word_n unspotted_a be_v take_v in_o antiquity_n s._n augustine_n have_v determine_v and_o the_o jesuite_n say_v nothing_o material_o in_o opposition_n why_o shall_v it_o not_o then_o continue_v in_o its_o strength_n still_o i_o will_v know_v whether_o the_o church_n in_o general_a or_o in_o her_o member_n can_v be_v without_o spot_n that_o be_v not_o defile_v in_o manner_n though_o free_a from_o false_a belief_n the_o church_n that_o be_v free_a as_o much_o as_o humane_a imperfection_n will_v permit_v confess_v herself_o black_a though_o comely_a 5._o comely_a cant._n 1._o 5._o and_o the_o jesuites_n citation_n out_o of_o paâ—â—anus_n acknowledge_v a_o freedom_n only_o from_o heresy_n 〈◊〉_d paciâ—â—_n epist_n 3._o ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la habens_fw-la â—aculam_fw-la neque_fw-la rugam_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la haereses_fw-la non_fw-la 〈◊〉_d which_o every_o true_a church_n and_o true_a member_n have_v but_o how_o will_v the_o jesuite_n prove_v the_o roman_a church_n unspotted_a first_o he_o must_v have_v two_o thing_n grant_v he_o according_a to_o his_o present_a understanding_n or_o â—lse_o a_o â—ople_n first_o by_o the_o roman_a church_n we_o must_v understand_v the_o church_n universal_a as_o have_v be_v declare_v say_v he_o in_o the_o former_a section_n â—â—_o section_n reply_v pag._n â—â—_o second_o unspotted_a must_v have_v relation_n to_o spot_n of_o misbelief_n only_o and_o then_o i_o say_v say_v the_o jesuit_n that_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v ever_o be_v find_v and_o will_v always_o remain_v in_o that_o kind_n unspotted_a even_o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n ibid._n world_n reply_v ibid._n this_o be_v afterwit_n but_o if_o the_o jesuit_n have_v not_o prove_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v the_o universal_a in_o the_o former_a section_n if_o the_o universal_a have_v be_v without_o spot_n of_o misbelief_n when_o the_o roman_a in_o her_o prime-member_n have_v be_v infect_v with_o leprosy_n this_o will_v declare_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n if_o their_o position_n be_v true_a be_v not_o without_o spot_n or_o catholic_n either_o for_o the_o first_o the_o jesuite_n will_v get_v by_o petition_n that_o by_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v understand_v the_o church_n universal_a but_o let_v he_o know_v it_o be_v too_o great_a a_o alm_n to_o grant_v a_o adversary_n coâ—â—ngunt_fw-la joh._n sansour_n in_o polycratic_n l._n 6._o c._n 24._o romana_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quae_fw-la materomnium_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la est_fw-la se_fw-la non_fw-la tam_fw-la matrem_fw-la exhibet_fw-la alijs_fw-la quam_fw-la novercam_fw-la sedentin_n eâ_fw-la scribas_fw-la &_o phâ—risae_n ponentes_fw-la onâ—â—a_fw-la importabiliâ—_n in_o humeris_fw-la hominum_fw-la quae_fw-la digito_fw-la non_fw-la coâ—â—ngunt_fw-la and_o too_o great_a a_o imposture_n to_o be_v approve_v in_o they_o for_o i_o be_o sure_a no_o modest_a man_n will_v dream_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n can_v be_v so_o forsake_v by_o christ_n that_o it_o be_v not_o worthy_a to_o be_v govern_v but_o by_o reprobate_n as_o aliace_n testify_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n reproboâ—_n church_n card_n de_fw-fr aliaco_fw-it lib._n the_o reform_v eccl._n cap._n the_o reform_v religionum_fw-la in_o proverbium_fw-la abierit_fw-la ad_fw-la hunc_fw-la statum_fw-la venisse_fw-la romanâ—â—_n ecclesium_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la fit_a digna_fw-la regi_fw-la nisi_fw-la per_fw-la reproboâ—_n the_o catholic_a church_n be_v a_o poor_a mother_n to_o instruct_v god_n saint_n if_o she_o do_v not_o show_v herself_o so_o much_o a_o mother_n as_o a_o stepmother_n if_o in_o it_o fit_v the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n heretic_n long_o since_o condemn_v by_o christ_n and_o yet_o johannes_n sarisburiensis_n affirm_v this_o of_o your_o roman_a church_n beside_o those_o which_o have_v bewail_v her_o corruption_n have_v tell_v we_o that_o pprophecy_n be_v now_o quite_o extinct_a in_o the_o church_n and_o it_o be_v accomplish_v that_o be_v write_v 3._o king_n 22._o i_o will_v go_v forth_o and_o be_v a_o lye_a spirit_n in_o the_o mouth_n of_o all_o the_o prophet_n 〈◊〉_d prophet_n aâ—aâ—_n pelagde_v planctu_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la l._n x._o act_n 5_o ad_fw-la literam_fw-la hoâ—â—â—_n in_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la deficit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la scribitur_fw-la 3._o regum_fw-la 22._o 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o this_o be_v harsh_a for_o any_o to_o affirm_v 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have_v be_v late_o lay_v open_a by_o the_o reverend_a and_o learned_a the_o lord_n bishop_n of_o leichfield_n and_o therefore_o i_o may_v here_o forbear_v it_o for_o the_o second_o i_o will_v brief_o declare_v the_o jesuite_n vanity_n herein_o and_o first_o to_o take_v away_o all_o ambiguity_n s._n augustine_n that_o use_v this_o term_n of_o unspotted_a not_o of_o the_o primitive_a roman_a but_o of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a church_n expound_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o the_o same_o wheresoever_o in_o these_o book_n i_o have_v make_v mention_n of_o the_o church_n not_o have_v spot_n or_o wrinkle_n it_o be_v not_o so_o to_o be_v take_v as_o if_o she_o be_v so_o now_o but_o that_o she_o be_v prepare_v to_o be_v so_o when_o she_o shall_v appear_v to_o be_v glorious_a for_o now_o by_o reason_n of_o certain_a ignorances_n and_n infirmity_n of_o her_o member_n the_o whole_a church_n have_v cause_n to_o say_v every_o day_n forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n nostra_fw-la trespass_n august_n retract_v l._n 2._o c._n â—8_o vbi_fw-la cunque_fw-la iâ—_n his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d memorari_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la
non_fw-la habentem_fw-la maculam_fw-la aut_fw-la rugam_fw-la non_fw-la sie_n accipiendum_fw-la est_fw-la quasi_fw-la jam_fw-la sit_fw-la sed_fw-la quae_fw-la prâ—paratur_fw-la ut_fw-la sit_fw-la quando_fw-la apparebit_fw-la etiam_fw-la gloriosa_fw-la nunc_fw-la enim_fw-la propter_fw-la quasdam_fw-la ignoranties_n &_o in_o firmitate_v membrorum_fw-la fuorum_fw-la habet_fw-la unde_fw-la quotidie_fw-la tota_fw-la dicat_fw-la dimitte_v nobis_fw-la debita_fw-la nostra_fw-la neither_o be_v it_o the_o question_n in_o those_o time_n whether_o the_o catholic_a church_n can_v be_v spot_v with_o heresy_n but_o with_o sin_n which_o be_v affirm_v by_o the_o catholic_a church_n against_o the_o pelagian_n and_o this_o the_o jesuite_n seem_v now_o to_o conceive_v and_o therefore_o tell_v we_o that_o by_o reason_n of_o ignorant_a and_o infirmity_n of_o her_o member_n in_o other_o matter_n the_o church_n have_v daily_a occasion_n to_o pray_v for_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n 43._o sin_n reply_v pag._n 43._o now_o the_o jesuite_n give_v the_o title_n â—â—spotted_a unto_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n which_o he_o account_v the_o catholic_a how_o can_v the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n understand_v the_o jesuite_n term_n but_o according_a to_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n as_o it_o be_v vulgar_o take_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n second_o it_o be_v not_o amiss_o to_o conceive_v that_o the_o jesuite_n in_o his_o challenge_n call_v the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n 〈◊〉_d challenge_n 〈◊〉_d in_o his_o challenge_n in_o his_o enquiry_n in_o this_o section_n he_o lay_v down_o the_o roman_a church_n without_o reâ—â—raynt_n of_o primitive_a and_o last_o in_o his_o proof_n he_o think_v he_o have_v get_v the_o day_n if_o from_o antiquity_n he_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o catholic_a church_n can_v fail_v so_o that_o you_o may_v easy_o â—spy_v who_o be_v guilty_a of_o mingle_v one_o question_n with_o another_o but_o let_v we_o examine_v this_o new_a question_n as_o the_o jesuite_n have_v propose_v it_o whether_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n may_v right_o be_v term_v unspotted_a or_o no_o â—â—_o no_o reply_v pag_n â—â—_o that_o the_o ancient_a roman_a church_n be_v invincible_a never_o fundamental_o err_v in_o the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n in_o all_o her_o member_n for_o the_o first_o 400._o or_o 500_o year_n after_o christ_n the_o jesuite_n tell_v we_o our_o doctor_n and_o master_n grannt_v challenge_n grannt_v in_o his_o challenge_n so_o that_o the_o controversy_n be_v not_o what_o the_o primitive_a church_n of_o rome_n be_v in_o regard_n of_o heresy_n but_o what_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v liable_a unto_o in_o her_o succession_n which_o the_o jesuite_n resolve_v and_o as_o he_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v from_o augustine_n and_o other_o anncient_a father_n say_v that_o in_o the_o truth_n and_o soundness_n of_o her_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n she_o be_v evermore_o invincible_a and_o not_o liable_a to_o any_o spot_n or_o stain_v 43_o stain_v reply_v pag._n 43_o but_o neither_o do_v augustine_n origen_n eusebius_n alexander_n b._n of_o alexandria_n athanasius_n cyrill_n b._n of_o jerusalem_n or_o philo_n carpathius_n etc._n etc._n who_o he_o urge_v 650_o urge_v reply_v pag_n 64_o &_o pag_n 650_o say_v any_o thing_n for_o the_o roman_a but_o for_o the_o catholic_a church_n to_o which_o they_o bear_v testimony_n that_o it_o can_v fail_v so_o that_o our_o jesuite_n fall_v under_o bellarmine_n censure_n who_o affirm_v that_o they_o do_v but_o trifle_v away_o the_o time_n who_o contend_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n can_v absolute_o fail_v because_o it_o be_v grant_v by_o the_o protestant_n themselves_o concedunt_fw-la themselves_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la mil_fw-mi l._n 3._o c._n 13._o notandum_fw-la autem_fw-la est_fw-la muluâ—_n ex_fw-la nostris_fw-la tempus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d dum_fw-la probant_fw-la absolute_a ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la posse_fw-la dâ—ficere_fw-la 〈◊〉_d calâ—â—â—â—_n &_o eâ—teri_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—i_fw-la 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privilege_n of_o the_o unspotted_a crucifix_n â—_o non_fw-fr enim_fw-la turbari_fw-la te_fw-la con_fw-mi venâ—â—_n cùm_fw-la audicris_fw-la quia_fw-la tratar_n &_o crucifix_n integrity_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n upon_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n to_o peter_n matt_n 16._o so_o also_o they_o oftentimes_o deduce_v the_o same_o from_o the_o virtue_n of_o that_o prayer_n which_o christ_n make_v to_o his_o father_n for_o peter_n faith_n that_o it_o shall_v never_o fail_v luc_n 22._o wherein_o doubtless_o he_o be_v hear_v for_o his_o reverence_n heb._n 5._o 7._o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o there_o be_v no_o ground_n why_o the_o roman_a shall_v enjoy_v this_o privilege_n either_o from_o christ_n promise_n or_o his_o prayer_n &_o as_o the_o jesuite_n have_v fail_v in_o deduce_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o former_a so_o do_v he_o show_v his_o ability_n in_o this_o latter_a at_o his_o first_o entrance_n for_o first_o he_o bring_v in_o forge_a epistle_n under_o the_o name_n of_o lucius_n 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church_n which_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o venerable_a antiquity_n we_o find_v approve_v to_o remain_v ever_o free_a from_o all_o error_n to_o that_o rock_n against_o which_o the_o power_n of_o hell_n shall_v never_o prevail_v to_o that_o foundation_n which_o christ_n have_v settle_v by_o his_o promise_n and_o make_v for_o ever_o immovable_a by_o his_o obtain_a prayer_n 6â—_n reply_v pag._n 6â—_n how_o non-erring_a a_o church_n your_o roman_a have_v be_v in_o her_o head_n be_v already_o declare_v how_o infallible_a a_o rule_n of_o faith_n your_o chief_a pastor_n have_v prove_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n venerable_a antiquity_n by_o several_a example_n have_v detect_v what_o a_o rock_n peter_n pretend_a successor_n have_v be_v when_o the_o devil_n be_v let_v loose_a to_o split_v so_o far_o as_o possible_a the_o ship_n of_o the_o church_n have_v not_o be_v leave_v you_o untell_v and_o who_o can_v believe_v that_o christ_n his_o prayer_n for_o peter_n faith_n be_v effectual_a for_o 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former_o urge_v and_o answer_v he_o present_v we_o with_o these_o sentence_n of_o the_o ancient_a in_o which_o say_v he_o as_o in_o a_o pure_a mirror_n they_o may_v if_o they_o listen_v espy_v their_o enorâ—ions_n disagreement_n from_o the_o truth_n 63_o reply_v pag_n 63_o and_o the_o first_o ancient_a father_n that_o he_o produce_v be_v ireneus_fw-la all_o they_o that_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n aught_o to_o obey_v say_v he_o unto_o those_o priest_n who_o have_v their_o succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n who_o together_o with_o the_o succession_n of_o their_o bishopric_n have_v receive_v the_o assure_a grace_n of_o truth_n according_a to_o the_o good_a will_n of_o the_o heavenly_a father_n and_o we_o ought_v to_o have_v for_o suspect_v such_o as_o withdraw_v themselves_o from_o the_o like_o principal_a succession_n and_o join_v themselves_o together_o in_o any_o other_o place_n i_o say_v we_o ought_v to_o hold_v they_o as_o heretic_n of_o a_o perverse_a judgement_n or_o 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what_o leave_n have_v â—hâ—â—_n o_o valentine_n to_o turn_v my_o stream_n &_o fountain_n another_o way_n by_o what_o authority_n do_v thou_o remove_v my_o bound_n o_o apelles_n o_o luther_n o_o calvin_n o_o zuiâ—glius_n the_o possession_n be_v i_o i_o have_v it_o of_o old_a i_o enjoy_v it_o before_o you_o &c_n &c_n 70._o reply_v pag_n 69_o and_o 70._o all_o that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v produce_v from_o irenâ—us_n &_o tertullian_n will_v make_v little_a for_o justify_v his_o pretence_n if_o the_o point_n be_v true_o consider_v for_o there_o be_v a_o bare_a personal_a succession_n which_o may_v accompany_v a_o false_a church_n as_o it_o do_v the_o jewish_a when_o the_o pharisee_n saâ—e_v in_o moses_n chair_n and_o the_o church_n of_o the_o east_n when_o heretic_n invade_v the_o chair_n of_o catholic_a bishop_n second_o there_o be_v a_o successâ—â—â—_n not_o only_o personal_a of_o bishop_n &_o priest_n but_o where_o the_o catholic_n &_o apostolical_a doctrine_n be_v continue_v also_o the_o people_n we_o say_v where_o this_o be_v plain_a be_v bind_v to_o receive_v the_o doctrine_n from_o timothy_n every_o succeed_a bishop_n as_o timothy_n 14._o â—_o tim_n 1._o 14._o from_o the_o apostle_n that_o establish_a and_o first_o publish_v the_o same_o now_o whatsoever_o the_o jesuite_n have_v bring_v from_o these_o father_n be_v no_o way_n advantageous_a for_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o we_o can_v show_v and_o have_v do_v as_o good_a personal_a succession_n as_o the_o roman_a bishop_n can_v claim_v any_o second_o to_o this_o our_o orderly_a succession_n we_o can_v and_o have_v prove_v by_o comparison_n and_o consanguinity_n of_o apostolical_a doctrine_n that_o we_o be_v true_a and_o apostolical_a church_n three_o the_o roman_a certainty_n upon_o which_o their_o profelyre_n must_v depend_v be_v no_o firm_a by_o these_o father_n testimony_n than_o ephesus_n smyrna_n corinth_n philippi_n germany_n spain_n france_n egypt_n lybia_n thessalonica_n diceret_fw-la thessalonica_n irenaeus_n pag._n 140_o 142._o disci_fw-la te_fw-la ab_fw-la apostoli_fw-la cis_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la habetis_fw-la romae_fw-la linum_fw-la &_o polycarpum_fw-la smyrnae_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n edoctum_fw-la tertull._n praeser_n p._n c._n 37._o proximè_fw-la est_fw-la tibi_fw-la achaâ—_n habes_fw-la corinthum_n si_fw-mi non_fw-la longè_fw-la es_fw-la â—_o macedonia_n habes_fw-la philippos_n habes_fw-la thessalonicenses_n si_fw-mi potes_fw-la in_o asiam_fw-la tendere_fw-la habes_fw-la ephesum_fw-la si_fw-la autem_fw-la italiae_fw-la adjaces_fw-la haqes_fw-la romam_fw-la unde_fw-la nobis_fw-la quoque_fw-la authoritas_fw-la praest_n o_o est_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la argum_fw-la in_o tert._n de_fw-fr prescript_n &_o alibi_fw-la impress_n basil_n 1521._o tertullianus_n ecclesiam_fw-la unam_fw-la apostolicam_fw-la nulla_fw-la loco_fw-la affigit_fw-la romanum_fw-la aec_fw-la lesiam_fw-la ornat_fw-la magnificae_fw-la laudis_fw-la elogio_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la tantam_fw-la 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circa_fw-la articuâ—â—s_fw-la fidei_fw-la non_fw-la dissentiunt_fw-la sed_fw-la circa_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o externam_fw-la ecclesiaâ—â—icam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o afterward_o he_o fâ—amâ—d_v they_o a_o lie_a catalogue_n â—5_n catalogue_n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o p._n â—5_n but_o it_o may_v be_v the_o jesuite_n will_v bettet_n perceive_v the_o weakness_n of_o his_o argument_n if_o we_o use_v the_o strength_n thereof_o against_o himself_o if_o i_o shall_v bring_v before_o sixtus_n the_o four_o his_o time_n the_o franciscan_n and_o dominican_n bandy_n heresy_n at_o each_o other_o cloister_n damn_v and_o condemn_v each_o other_o of_o heresy_n not_o by_o word_n alone_o but_o in_o write_v also_o c_o will_v the_o jesuite_n conclude_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v matiae_n o_o sixt._n iu._n decret_a de_fw-fr concep_n virg_n matiae_n heretical_a and_o keep_v not_o irenaus_n his_o harmony_n sure_o if_o the_o pillar_n be_v rot_v the_o roof_n be_v not_o safe_a beside_o if_o the_o franciscan_n and_o 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1255_o or_o 56._o when_o the_o friar_n publish_v their_o eternal_a gospel_n and_o the_o pope_n partake_v with_o they_o if_o the_o jesuite_n can_v find_v among_o all_o the_o heretic_n that_o have_v ever_o trouble_v the_o church_n such_o a_o essential_a and_o fundamental_a dissension_n let_v he_o swell_v swagger_v and_o display_v ignatius_n for_o ever_o for_o here_o we_o find_v friar_n more_o perfect_a contemplative_n than_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n manebit_fw-la apostle_n henry_n exphurd_n chron._n c._n 93._o eymeric_n director_n inquisitor_n part_n 2._o quaest_n 9_o §._o 4._o 〈◊〉_d errores_fw-la 4._o libri_fw-la 2._o partis_fw-la tractat_fw-la 2._o ay_o quod_fw-la christus_fw-la &_o sancti_fw-la apostoli_fw-la ejuse_n non_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la perfecti_fw-la in_o vita_fw-la contemplantium_fw-la â—_o quod_fw-la activa_fw-la viâ—a_fw-la usquâ—_fw-la ad_fw-la tempus_fw-la abbatis_n joachim_n frâ—ctuosa_fw-la fuit_fw-la sed_fw-la 〈◊〉_d noâ—_n est_fw-la contemplative_a verò_fw-la vita_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la joachim_n fructificarc_n coepit_fw-la etamodò_fw-la in_o perfect_a â—_o successoribusâ—psius_fw-la perfectiâ—â—_n manebit_fw-la of_o more_o dignity_n and_o authority_n than_o the_o apostle_n apostoli_fw-la apostle_n ibid._n inter_fw-la errores_fw-la â—_o libri_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la partis_fw-la in_fw-la tractatu_fw-la de_fw-fr joseph_n et_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d cvi_fw-la somnium_fw-la apparuit_fw-la invenitur_fw-la quod_fw-la prae_fw-la diâ—a_fw-la â—ores_fw-la qui_fw-la erant_fw-la in_o ultimo_fw-la statu_fw-la mundi_fw-la erunt_fw-la dignitatis_fw-la et_fw-la auctoritatis_fw-la majoris_fw-la quam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apostoli_fw-la the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n disgrace_v as_o less_o excellent_a if_o compare_v to_o their_o eternal_a gospel_n christi_fw-la gospel_n ibid._n inter_fw-la errores_fw-la primae_fw-la partis_fw-la primus_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la evangelium_fw-la aeternum_fw-la quod_fw-la idem_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la doctrina_fw-la abbatis_n joachim_n excellit_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la christi_fw-la that_o it_o must_v vanish_v evacuandum_fw-la vanish_v ibid_fw-la 3._o quod_fw-la novum_fw-la testamentum_fw-la est_fw-la evacuandum_fw-la and_o another_o in_o succession_n follow_v it_o succedet_fw-la it_o ibid._n 6._o quod_fw-la evangelio_n christi_fw-la aliud_fw-la evangelium_fw-la succedet_fw-la that_o it_o bring_v none_o to_o perfection_n perfectum_fw-la perfection_n ibid._n inteâ—_n errores_fw-la 2._o libri_fw-la partis_fw-la 2._o i._n quod_fw-la evangelium_fw-la christi_fw-la â—eminem_fw-la perducit_fw-la ad_fw-la perfectum_fw-la that_o the_o preisthood_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o for_o ever_o after_o the_o order_n of_o melchisedecke_n but_o must_v have_v a_o other_o priesthood_n to_o succeed_v it_o succedet_fw-la it_o ibid._n intet_fw-la errores_fw-la 1._o partis_fw-la 6._o quod_fw-la sacerdotio_fw-la christi_fw-la aliud_fw-la sacerdoâ—ium_fw-la succedet_fw-la these_o desperate_a blasphemy_n beside_o other_o impiety_n as_o opposite_a 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filios_fw-la scandalum_fw-la posuere_fw-la their_o defence_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o gospel_n a_o pernicious_a and_o detestable_a libel_n componentes_fw-la libel_n ibid._n prodiere_fw-la inquam_fw-la &_o in_o prava_fw-la commenâ—a_fw-la ex_fw-la nimio_fw-la calore_fw-la animi_fw-la proruperunt_fw-la libellum_fw-la quendam_fw-la valde_fw-la perniciosum_fw-la &_o detestabilem_fw-la temere_fw-la componentes_fw-la the_o friar_n excellent_a instrument_n work_v many_o spiritual_a proficienâ—es_n and_o fruit_n in_o the_o church_n fructum_fw-la church_n ibid._n in_o ipso_fw-la quaedam_fw-la perversa_fw-la &_o reproba_fw-la contra_fw-la
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nothing_o to_o this_o purpose_n neither_o of_o strength_n sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o we_o agree_v not_o with_o the_o ancient_a church_n in_o any_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n or_o point_n of_o religion_n as_o he_o shall_v here_o manifest_v so_o that_o we_o see_v his_o outface_a can_v protect_v his_o impudence_n but_o that_o he_o speak_v vain_o in_o charge_v we_o that_o we_o agree_v with_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o very_a few_o article_n of_o religion_n and_o just_o none_o at_o all_o and_o here_o augustine_n and_o prosper_v word_n be_v their_o cutthroat_n who_o not_o only_o reject_v communion_n with_o the_o catholic_n church_n but_o judge_v that_o catholic_n body_n to_o be_v a_o schism_n and_o heretical_a because_o it_o will_v not_o join_v in_o communion_n with_o themselves_o &_o if_o augustine_n and_o prosper_v word_n may_v convict_v a_o pope_n they_o have_v force_n in_o they_o sufficient_a to_o perform_v it_o for_o though_o he_o hold_v all_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o 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the_o doctrine_n deliver_v by_o christ_n &_o his_o apostle_n &_o embrace_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n neither_o by_o schism_n depart_v from_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n make_v their_o faith_n uneffectual_a but_o that_o rule_n of_o faith_n say_v the_o most_o reverend_a primate_n so_o much_o commend_v by_o irenaeus_n &_o tertullian_n &_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n &_o all_o the_o article_n of_o the_o several_a cteede_n that_o be_v ever_o receive_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n as_o badge_n of_o the_o catholic_a profession_n to_o which_o we_o willing_o subscribe_v be_v with_o this_o man_n almost_o nothing_o at_o all_o none_o must_v now_o be_v count_v a_o catholic_a but_o he_o that_o can_v conform_v his_o belief_n unto_o the_o creed_n of_o the_o new_a fashion_n compile_v by_o pope_n pius_n the_o 4._o some_o four_o &_o fifty_o year_n ago_o 25._o ago_o see_v the_o moâ—â—_n reverend_a the_o lord_n primate_n his_o answer_n 〈◊〉_d the_o jesuitâ—_n challenge_v pag._n 25._o the_o jesuit_n tell_v we_o that_o he_o have_v already_o make_v it_o know_v how_o far_o we_o have_v stray_v from_o that_o rule_n of_o faith_n 91_o faith_n reply_v pag._n 91_o and_o we_o tell_v he_o again_o that_o he_o be_v deceive_v in_o the_o wanderer_n and_o that_o we_o have_v manifest_v it_o also_o and_o that_o we_o do_v willing_o subscribe_v unto_o all_o the_o article_n of_o the_o several_a creed_n that_o be_v ever_o receive_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n although_o the_o juggler_n home_n juggler_n jesuita_fw-la est_fw-la omnis_fw-la home_n be_v jealous_a we_o intend_v nothing_o less_o than_o what_o we_o say_v 91_o say_v reply_v pag._n 91_o but_o it_o be_v jesuitisme_n to_o remove_v the_o tongue_n from_o the_o heart_n equivocate_a you_o defend_v we_o abhor_v it_o why_o do_v you_o suspect_v we_o but_o upon_o a_o sudden_a the_o jesuite_n fly_v from_o this_o calumny_n without_o one_o word_n to_o justify_v it_o but_o his_o detraction_n or_o jealousy_n be_v rapt_v up_o with_o admiration_n shall_v
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nestâ—riâ—â—_n for_o â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d doubt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o thâ—sâ—_n 〈◊〉_d do_v iâ—_n judgement_n agree_v with_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 95._o reply_v pag._n 94_o 95._o but_o all_o the_o whâ—â—e_o he_o do_v little_o consider_v that_o his_o own_o do_v not_o agree_v with_o he_o what_o make_v the_o consent_n of_o father_n for_o 〈◊〉_d will_v haâ—e_v those_o to_o be_v counâ—â—â—_n all_o the_o doctor_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v just_o 〈◊〉_d from_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o rest_n neglect_v 〈◊〉_d greg._n de_fw-fr valen_n loco_fw-la supra_fw-la citat_fw-la omnes_fw-la esse_fw-la censentur_fw-la iâ—_n quorum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d omnibus_fw-la consideratis_fw-la â—ruditionis_fw-la piâ—tatis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la à _fw-la prudentibus_fw-la certè_fw-la â—â—â—um_fw-la solummodò_fw-la ratio_fw-la habeâ—i_fw-la debâ—â—t_fw-la câ—â—â—ris_fw-la neglectis_fw-la quasi_fw-la nihil_fw-la 〈◊〉_d si_fw-la cum_fw-la illis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o be_v of_o 〈◊〉_d that_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d collect_v by_o hiâ—_n practiâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v he_o concâ—â—â—ing_n augustiâ—â—_n who_o 〈◊〉_d malachy'_v dayâ—â—â—_n sacrifice_v of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o pâ—â—yers_n of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o â—_o aâ—or_fw-es inst_z mor_fw-fr part_n 1._o lib_n 10_o cap._n â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d there_o be_v onâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_z â—â—â—ing_a thâ—â—_n be_v 〈◊〉_d the_o rest_n now_o if_o 〈◊〉_d take_v consent_n of_o father_n according_a to_o 〈◊〉_d than_o we_o â—inde_v a_o conseâ—t_n of_o father_n in_o a_o point_n of_o 〈◊〉_d against_o 〈◊〉_d catholic_a church_n â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d father_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d origâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d aâ—brose_n tradiderunt_fw-la â—_o stapleton_n deâ—ens_n ecclesiastic_a 〈…〉_o quod_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o non_fw-it 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â—lye_v to_o he_o i_o appeal_v from_o all_o other_o interpreter_n and_o seek_v unto_o he_o in_o that_o which_o he_o write_v to_o the_o galathian_o 〈…〉_o galathian_o aâ—gust_n epist_n 1â—_n â—oâ—â—eâ—_n quâ—dem_fw-la ut_fw-la arbitroâ—_fw-la facilè_fw-la repeâ—â—râ—_n â—i_fw-mi 〈…〉_o ipse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—ro_fw-mi his_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—ò_fw-la supra_fw-la â—os_v omnes_fw-la apostolic_a paulus_n â—ccuâ—â—â—â—_n ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la ipsum_fw-la aâ—_n omnibâ—_n qui_fw-la aliud_fw-la senâ—iâ—nt_fw-la liteâ—â—â—â—â—_n ejus_fw-la 〈…〉_o provoâ—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d iâ—â—â—ogaâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d &_o â—â—_o quâ—â—o_o in_o â—â—_o quod_fw-la 〈…〉_o and_o by_o this_o which_o have_v be_v say_v we_o perceive_v that_o the_o jesuite_n in_o a_o manner_n be_v urge_v to_o confess_v that_o this_o rule_n want_v perfection_n and_o that_o the_o father_n consent_n can_v be_v absolute_o produce_v but_o presume_v only_o neither_o do_v it_o please_v the_o jesuite_n the_o other_o caution_n lay_v down_o thâ—â—_n he_o must_v 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what_o fetch_v they_o use_v to_o drag_v the_o people_n to_o their_o opinion_n so_o they_o may_v sway_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o tyrannize_v with_o their_o antichristian_a sceptre_n over_o the_o kingdom_n of_o saint_n the_o jesuite_n before_o he_o leave_v off_o will_v fain_o say_v something_o for_o himself_o and_o cause_n as_o first_o that_o wheresoever_o the_o father_n do_v profess_v they_o in_o their_o work_n they_o never_o tell_v he_o that_o they_o hold_v they_o for_o opinion_n rather_o than_o for_o point_n of_o faith_n 95_o faith_n reply_v pag._n 95_o which_o we_o acknowledge_v for_o indeed_o there_o be_v no_o such_o profession_n in_o the_o father_n yet_o i_o think_v and_o upon_o good_a ground_n if_o they_o have_v know_v of_o any_o such_o fundamental_a point_n some_o will_v have_v declare_v they_o to_o the_o church_n second_o he_o confess_v that_o some_o of_o the_o say_a point_n be_v not_o declare_v by_o the_o church_n in_o former_a age_n to_o be_v necessary_a and_o 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own_o profession_n he_o be_v deceive_v his_o conjecture_n be_v far_o from_o the_o ground_n that_o be_v follow_v by_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n and_o how_o far_o it_o be_v from_o divine_a to_o express_v a_o truth_n any_o will_v apprehend_v that_o know_v that_o divine_a have_v relation_n to_o thing_n to_o come_v and_o not_o to_o thing_n past_a but_o what_o he_o promise_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n we_o will_v examine_v whereby_o i_o think_v we_o may_v come_v to_o more_o perfect_a knowledge_n of_o their_o catholic_a frâ—â—des_n though_o not_o of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d as_o he_o will_v persuade_v sect_n xii_o the_o jesuite_n have_v travail_v in_o the_o defence_n of_o certain_a point_n from_o the_o father_n testimony_n that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n and_o fear_v to_o be_v censure_v by_o lyrinensis_n who_o say_v that_o the_o aunciâ—â—t_a consent_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n be_v with_o great_a care_n to_o be_v sâ—ught_v and_o follow_v by_o we_o not_o in_o every_o petty_a question_n belong_v to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n but_o one_o 〈◊〉_d at_o least_o principal_o in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n 26._o faith_n see_v the_o testimony_n urge_v by_o the_o most_o reverend_a the_o lord_n primate_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o jesuite_n challenge_v pag._n 26._o do_v in_o this_o section_n inquire_v hâ—â—â—_n a_o point_n of_o faith_n may_v be_v discern_v from_o a_o indifferent_a opinion_n in_o religion_n 96._o religion_n reply_v p._n 96._o and_o declare_v the_o reason_n of_o his_o so_o do_v forasmuch_o say_v he_o â—â—_o our_o answerer_n affirm_v that_o all_o the_o point_n by_o i_o lay_v down_o in_o my_o demand_n be_v not_o chief_a article_n i_o think_v it_o meet_v by_o this_o disputation_n to_o disproove_v he_o herein_o and_o to_o shâ—w_v that_o they_o be_v all_o such_o chief_a article_n of_o faith_n at_o the_o obstinate_a denial_n of_o any_o of_o they_o deprive_v a_o man_n of_o all_o true_a belief_n and_o make_v he_o a_o faithless_a heretic_n for_o performance_n whereof_o we_o be_v first_o to_o inquire_v which_o be_v the_o way_n or_o certain_a rule_n to_o know_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n from_o a_o indifferent_a opinion_n and_o that_o be_v find_v out_o by_o square_n the_o say_v point_n thereby_o we_o shall_v easy_o understand_v whether_o they_o be_v thief_n article_n yea_o or_o â—â—_o 96_o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n 96_o now_o in_o this_o passage_n the_o jesuite_n meet_v not_o at_o all_o with_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n observation_n for_o he_o deny_v all_o the_o point_v propound_v by_o the_o jesuite_n to_o be_v chief_a article_n in_o regard_n of_o those_o which_o be_v more_o necessary_a &_o fundamental_a which_o only_o be_v to_o be_v inquire_v of_o by_o consent_n of_o father_n in_o lirinensis_n his_o judgement_n â—_o judgement_n see_v above_o light_v â—_o and_o not_o because_o in_o their_o own_o nature_n they_o be_v indifferent_a for_o if_o he_o shall_v conceit_n they_o such_o why_o shall_v he_o style_v you_o heretic_n for_o your_o false_a declaration_n concern_v they_o nay_o why_o shall_v there_o be_v controversy_n at_o all_o betwixt_o we_o second_o all_o that_o the_o jesuite_n urge_v here_o satisfi_v not_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n in_o show_n only_o for_o unless_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o these_o point_n be_v according_a to_o his_o rule_n declare_v by_o the_o catholic_a roman_a church_n for_o chief_a article_n of_o faith_n before_o those_o father_n time_n which_o he_o urge_v in_o lirinensis_n his_o judgement_n all_o his_o quotation_n of_o antiquity_n in_o defence_n of_o they_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n and_o i_o will_v willing_o see_v where_o the_o roman_a catholic_a church_n by_o her_o declaration_n have_v define_v these_o point_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la before_o the_o age_n of_o those_o father_n which_o the_o jesuite_n produce_v for_o confirmation_n of_o the_o same_o but_o notwithstanding_o he_o go_v a_o by_o way_n and_o follow_v not_o his_o answerer_n yet_o i_o will_v not_o leave_v he_o but_o 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will_v read_v the_o answer_n to_o the_o jesuite_n challenge_n shall_v see_v how_o little_a advantage_n they_o get_v by_o the_o father_n word_n concern_v some_o of_o those_o point_n although_o in_o some_o sense_n they_o be_v not_o receive_v by_o we_o yet_o i_o can_v wish_v the_o jesuite_n to_o consider_v how_o gross_o he_o have_v abuse_v the_o most_o learned_a and_o reverend_a bishop_n bilson_n by_o urge_v his_o objection_n for_o his_o solution_n when_o as_o if_o he_o will_v but_o see_v the_o author_n himself_o he_o shall_v find_v that_o he_o conclude_v no_o such_o thing_n for_o the_o second_o that_o we_o utter_o disclaim_v from_o the_o father_n opinion_n and_o doctrine_n i_o have_v show_v before_o with_o what_o truth_n this_o be_v affirm_v yet_o i_o will_v lay_v down_o his_o argument_n whereby_o he_o seem_v to_o enforce_v this_o that_o by_o the_o repetition_n of_o it_o all_o may_v take_v notice_n of_o the_o jesuite_n vanity_n for_o be_v there_o any_o consequence_n in_o this_o that_o because_o cartwright_n luther_n etc._n etc._n have_v except_v against_o the_o father_n and_o it_o may_v be_v with_o term_n not_o altogether_o so_o decent_a therefore_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n do_v utter_o disclaim_v froâ—_n their_o opinion_n and_o doctrine_n this_o be_v so_o weak_a that_o it_o fall_v of_o itself_o but_o if_o better_a argument_n than_o this_o will_v serve_v we_o have_v manifest_v that_o the_o father_n have_v forsake_v their_o corruption_n though_o they_o seem_v to_o follow_v after_o with_o a_o corrupt_a pursuit_n by_o clip_v and_o canker_a forge_v and_o fret_v when_o they_o can_v not_o persuade_v they_o otherwise_o to_o plead_v their_o cause_n â—_o cause_n see_v before_o sec_fw-la â—_o and_o if_o to_o argue_v after_o the_o jesuite_n manner_n will_v be_v receive_v by_o himself_o we_o can_v tell_v he_o that_o ludovicus_n vives_z being_z well_o acquaint_v how_o the_o father_n be_v account_v of_o in_o the_o roman_a church_n spare_v not_o to_o say_v that_o those_o which_o serve_v not_o to_o their_o purpose_n be_v of_o no_o better_a esteem_n than_o a_o company_n of_o lewd_a woman_n in_o a_o weaver_n shop_n or_o the_o bath_n thermis_fw-la bath_n lud._n vives_z coâ—_n in_o aug._n de_fw-fr civet_n dâ—â—_n l._n 20._o c._n 26._o itaque_fw-la illa_fw-la demùm_fw-la â—is_fw-la videntur_fw-la â—dicta_fw-la &_o concilia_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o rem_fw-la sâ—aâ—_n faciunt_fw-la reliqua_fw-la non_fw-la pluris_fw-la a_o stiâ—anda_fw-la quam_fw-la conventum_fw-la muliâ—rcularum_fw-la in_o textrina_fw-la vel_fw-la thermis_fw-la and_o let_v the_o jesuit_n resolve_v whether_o we_o may_v conclude_v that_o they_o have_v utter_o disclaim_v from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n because_o sixtus_n senensis_n have_v mention_v eleven_o of_o those_o ancient_n that_o hold_v prescience_n of_o merit_n &_o be_v therefore_o censure_v by_o he_o for_o condemn_a pelagian_o est_fw-la pelagian_o sixtus_n sense_n bibliotâ—_n sanâ—â—_n l._n 6._o annot._fw-la 251._o haec_fw-la igitur_fw-la sunt_fw-la patrum_fw-la dictâ—_n scil_n chrysostom_n origeâ—_n am_n â—_o brâ—s_v hiâ—roniâ—_n augustin_n theâ—dâ—â—â—t_n sâ—dâ—l_n thâ—â—phylact_n oâ—â—â—mâ—n_o thâ—â—dul_a etc._n etc._n ex_fw-la quibus_fw-la collige_v videtur_fw-la praescientiam_fw-la meâ—itorum_fw-la esse_fw-la causam_fw-la divinae_fw-la