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A69753 The generall demands, of the reverend doctors of divinitie, and ministers of the Gospell in Aberdene, concerning the late covenant, in Scotland together, with the answeres, replyes, and duplyes that followed thereupon, in the year, 1638 : reprinted in one book, by order of Parliament. Forbes, John, 1593-1648.; Henderson, Alexander, 1583?-1646. 1663 (1663) Wing C4226; Wing C4225; ESTC R6298 125,063 170

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be_v those_o of_o the_o pearth_n article_n which_o we_o call_v necessary_a and_o you_o do_v reject_v 11._o the_o exercise_n of_o some_o affirmative_a necessary_a duty_n may_v be_v some_o time_n omit_v by_o authority_n without_o sin_n for_o the_o public_a peace_n or_o some_o press_a necessity_n thus_o moses_n permit_v repudiation_n of_o a_o man_n marry_a wife_n not_o fall_v into_o adultery_n neither_o do_v he_o urge_v strict_o the_o affirmative_a duty_n of_o adherence_n and_o that_o for_o the_o hardness_n of_o their_o heart_n wherein_o moses_n have_v respect_n to_o the_o peace_n and_o unity_n of_o the_o tribs_n of_o israel_n as_o alexander_n alensis_n observe_v in_o his_o sum_n of_o theology_n part._n 3._o qu._n 46._o membro_fw-la 1._o art_n 1._o &_o art_n 2._o david_n do_v not_o execute_v in_o his_o own_o time_n judgement_n against_o joab_n for_o his_o murder_n of_o abner_n and_o amasa_n because_o the_o son_n of_o zeruiah_n be_v too_o hard_o for_o he_o circumcision_n be_v omit_v 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cap._n 1._o &_o cap._n 2._o &_o lib._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o operibus_fw-la cap._n 5._o for_o in_o this_o time_n say_v gregory_n the_o holy_a church_n do_v correct_v something_o by_o fervour_n something_o she_o tolerate_v by_o mecknes_n some_o thing_n by_o consideration_n she_o dissemble_v &_o bear_v so_o that_o often_o by_o bear_v &_o dissemble_v she_o compesce_v or_o put_v away_o that_o evil_a which_o she_o hate_v and_o prosp._n sai_z for_o this_o cause_n therefore_o they_o most_o with_o gentle_a piety_n be_v bear_v with_o who_o for_o their_o infirmity_n may_v not_o be_v rebuke_v 13._o when_o a_o doctrinal_a error_n not_o be_v fundamental_a prevail_v by_o public_a authority_n in_o any_o church_n a_o private_a pastor_n or_o doctor_n espy_v it_o may_v lawful_o and_o laudable_o sorbear_v public_a strive_v against_o it_o when_o he_o evident_o perceive_v that_o unavoidable_a schism_n will_v follow_v thereupon_o in_o such_o a_o case_n he_o shall_v content_v himself_o to_o seed_v his_o hearer_n with_o that_o wholesome_a milk_n of_o the_o word_n which_o they_o may_v receive_v and_o delay_v the_o give_v of_o strong_a food_n unto_o they_o because_o of_o 1630._o their_o infirmity_n consider_v that_o more_o necessary_a and_o weighty_a duty_n which_o he_o owe_v for_o preservation_n of_o order_n and_o peace_n and_o labour_v in_o a_o mild_a and_o peaceable_a manner_n to_o cure_v they_o to_o this_o purpose_n belong_v that_o say_n of_o gregory_n nazianzen_n let_v no_o man_n therefore_o be_v more_o wise_a than_o be_v convenient_a neither_o more_o legal_a than_o the_o law_n neither_o more_o bright_a than_o the_o light_n neither_o more_o straight_o than_o the_o rule_n neither_o high_a than_o the_o commandment_n but_o how_o shall_v this_o be_v if_o we_o take_v knowledge_n of_o decency_n and_o commend_v the_o law_n of_o nature_n and_o follow_v reason_n and_o despise_v not_o good_a order_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d animum_fw-la and_o that_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o lion_n in_o france_n near_o eight_o hundred_o year_n ago_o who_o do_v not_o calmlie_o and_o peaceable_o moderate_a that_o which_o he_o think_v but_o be_v ready_a incontinent_a to_o contention_n dissension_n and_o scandal_n although_o he_o have_v not_o a_o heretical_a sense_n most_o certain_o he_o have_v a_o heretical_a mind_n 14._o divine_a institution_n by_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o apostle_n crave_v deacon_n ordain_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o all_o their_o life_n time_n act_v 6._o yet_o in_o our_o reform_a church_n of_o scotland_n we_o have_v no_o such_o deacon_n which_o oecomenicall_a defect_n necessitate_v by_o detention_n of_o church_n mantenance_n necessary_a for_o their_o sustentation_n we_o hope_v shall_v not_o be_v impute_v to_o our_o church_n as_o sin_n so_o long_o as_o she_o despise_v not_o that_o institution_n and_o acknowledge_v and_o lament_v this_o deficiency_n and_o endeavour_v by_o peaceable_a lawful_a mean_n to_o have_v it_o remedy_v 15._o although_o some_o affirmative_a duty_n necessary_a by_o divine_a precept_n do_v