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A86482 Certain queres modestly (though plainly) propounded to such as affect the congregational-way, and specially to Master Samuel Eaton and Mr. Timothy Taylor. With an epistle also directed to them concerning their late book intituled A defence of sundry positions, &c. / By Richard Hollingworth, Mancuniensis. Hollingworth, Richard, 1607-1656. 1646 (1646) Wing H2488; Thomason E316_16; ESTC R200531; ESTC R233855 20,720 31

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