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A37367 A Short surveigh of the grand case of the present ministry whether they may lawfully subscribe and declare as by the late Act of uniformity is required, and the several cases thence arising, especially about the covenant / by some conformable non-conformists. M. D. 1663 (1663) Wing D64; ESTC R14722 29,525 48

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