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A09112 The vvarn-vvord to Sir Francis Hastinges wast-word conteyning the issue of three former treateses, the Watch-word, the Ward-word and the Wast-word (intituled by Sir Francis, an Apologie or defence of his Watch-word) togeather with certaine admonitions & warnings to thesaid [sic] knight and his followers. Wherunto is adioyned a breif reiection of an insolent, and vaunting minister masked with the letters O.E. who hath taken vpon him to wryte of thesame [sic] argument in supply of the knight. There go also foure seueral tables, one of the chapters, another of the controuersies, the third of the cheif shiftes, and deceits, the fourth of the parricular [sic] matters conteyned in the whole book. By N.D. author of the Ward-word. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1602 (1602) STC 19418; ESTC S114221 315,922 580

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10._o n._n 2.3_o 4.5_o &_o cap._n 17._o &_o 18._o whether_o english_a nobility_n and_o commonalty_n be_v rich_a at_o this_o day_n then_o in_o old_a time_n by_o change_n of_o religion_n cap._n 11._o num_fw-la 7.8.9_o etc._n etc._n whether_o it_o be_v a_o special_a grace_n and_o bless_a nature_n of_o protestant_n to_o persecute_v no_o man_n for_o religion_n cap._n 10._o whether_o freedom_n from_o exaction_n long_a peace_n great_a power_n in_o other_o country_n great_a wealth_n of_o the_o land_n and_o more_o abundant_a multiply_v of_o child_n then_o before_o be_v special_a benefit_n and_o benediction_n bring_v into_o england_n by_o change_n of_o religion_n cap._n 11._o whether_o the_o universal_a church_n may_v be_v say_v proper_o to_o teach_v we_o or_o no_o which_o o._n e._n deni_v cap._n 11._o num_fw-la 12._o whether_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n be_v a_o new_a invention_n or_o no_o and_o whether_o the_o number_n of_o 7._o sacrament_n be_v not_o agree_v on_o before_o the_o late_a council_n of_o trent_n as_o o.e._n affirm_v cap._n 13._o num_fw-la 7.8.9.10_o etc._n etc._n how_o far_o catholyke_a man_n do_v depend_v of_o the_o pope_n for_o the_o certainty_n of_o their_o religion_n ca._n 16._o n._n 17.18.19_o enc._n 2._o c._n 13._o n._n 16._o whether_o any_o one_o new_a or_o old_a heresy_n can_v be_v prove_v true_o to_o be_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o papist_n at_o this_o day_n and_o how_o that_o there_o be_v many_o proper_o and_o formal_o hold_v by_o protestant_n cap._n 16._o num_fw-la 20._o what_o difference_n of_o doctrine_n or_o opinion_n may_v be_v among_o cath._n man_n without_o heresy_n or_o breach_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a father_n cap._n 16._o num_fw-la 6._o how_o contemptuous_o the_o protestant_n do_v speak_v not_o only_o of_o the_o old_a father_n but_o also_o of_o their_o own_o writer_n when_o they_o make_v against_o they_o cap._n 17._o num_fw-la 17._o whether_o temporal_a blessing_n enter_v into_o england_n 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no_o cap._n 3._o num_fw-la 5.6_o etc._n etc._n whether_o john_n husse_v and_o martin_n luther_n offer_v disputation_n to_o catholyk_n or_o no_o and_o whether_o they_o be_v of_o one_o and_o thesame_a religion_n or_o that_o any_o of_o they_o do_v agree_v full_o with_o s._n francis_n and_o o._n e._n in_o their_o religion_n now_o profess_v cap._n 3._o &_o 4._o whether_o the_o catholyk_n or_o hugonote_v minister_n in_o the_o conference_n at_o poysy_n in_o france_n anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1561._o have_v the_o better_a cap_n 4._o num_fw-la 14._o whether_o catholyk_n do_v ever_o hold_v it_o for_o heresy_n to_o read_v scripture_n in_o english_a or_o have_v ever_o put_v man_n or_o woman_n to_o death_n for_o that_o fact_n only_o cap._n 4._o &_o 5._o &_o 6._o num_fw-la 12._o &_o 15._o &_o cap._n 9_o num_fw-la 3._o whether_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v use_v to_o pray_v to_o saint_n and_o
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which_o be_v the_o proper_a idolator_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n that_o adore_v their_o own_o fancy_n selfe-wil_a and_o judgment_n all_o other_o external_a idolatry_n be_v abolish_v by_o christ_n come_v and_o his_o religion_n who_o proper_a work_n be_v prophesy_v to_o be_v to_o destroy_v idolatry_n all_o this_o then_o be_v against_o himself_o as_o most_o clear_o may_v be_v show_v by_o exposition_n of_o all_o antiquity_n if_o we_o have_v time_n to_o stand_v thereon_o but_o above_o all_o the_o rest_n most_o notorious_o against_o himself_o be_v his_o discourse_n that_o follow_v wherein_o true_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_v both_o at_o his_o folly_n and_o impudence_n in_o set_v it_o down_o his_o word_n be_v these_o and_o i_o pray_v the_o gentle_a reader_n note_v the_o whole_a matter_n to_o the_o effect_n before_o mentyon_v of_o punish_v catholic_n 7._o rom._n 16._o pag._n 7._o the_o apostle_n say_v he_o writing_n to_o the_o roman_n exhort_v they_o to_o mark_v such_o diligent_o as_o shall_v 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understand_v be_v quite_o contrary_a to_o sir_n f._n hastings_n who_o in_o the_o sixth_o encounter_n affirm_v s._n augustine_n sentence_n and_o word_n to_o be_v that_o it_o never_o please_v any_o good_a man_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n 6._o 〈◊〉_d 6._o that_o heretic_n shall_v be_v put_v to_o death_n which_o there_o i_o do_v refute_v by_o diverse_a evident_a testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n himself_o and_o do_v show_v the_o place_n by_o he_o to_o be_v egregious_o falsify_v and_o here_o it_o be_v contradict_v also_o by_o his_o champion_n o._n e._n who_o say_v that_o s._n augustine_n high_o commend_v the_o emperor_n justice_n and_o albeit_o he_o say_v only_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a that_o heretical_a preacher_n shall_v be_v repress_v and_o correct_v yet_o that_o the_o say_v emperor_n justice_n pass_v further_o appear_v clear_o by_o the_o decree_n of_o theodosius_n and_o valentinian_n who_o word_n be_v manichaeis_n etiam_fw-la ex_fw-la civitate_fw-la pellendis_fw-la ar●ian_n 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that_o make_v division_n among_o they_o that_o be_v in_o peace_n and_o unity_n of_o religion_n before_o and_o do_v bring_v in_o new_a doctrine_n different_a from_o that_o which_o they_o have_v learned_a and_o receive_v public_o before_o which_o make_v the_o case_n of_o our_o controversy_n very_o clear_a for_o whether_o martin_n luther_n vldericus_n zuinglius_fw-la john_n caluyn_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o crew_n have_v do_v this_o or_o no_o in_o our_o age_n and_o whether_o the_o protestant_n in_o england_n find_v catholic_n in_o peace_n and_o unity_n have_v do_v like_o office_n in_o bring_v in_o new_a opinion_n and_o dissension_n which_o be_v not_o before_o let_v all_o the_o world_n judge_v sure_o i_o be_o they_o can_v say_v that_o we_o find_v they_o in_o unity_n do_v trouble_v their_o peace_n or_o go_v out_o from_o they_o so_o as_o this_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n be_v whole_o against_o themselves_o and_o this_o to_o the_o first_o point_n the_o second_o for_o we_o and_o against_o 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macedonian_n apollinarian_o novatians_n sabatians_n valentinian_o montanist_n donatist_n and_o the_o like_a name_v in_o this_o place_n to_o the_o number_n of_o 34._o be_v command_v to_o be_v punish_v for_o heretic_n by_o these_o catholic_a emperor_n theodosian_a and_o valentinian_n in_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 428._o and_o in_o the_o very_a next_o decree_n after_o they_o say_v thus_o damnato_fw-la portentosae_fw-la superstitionis_fw-la authore_fw-la nestorio_n dam●●●●_n cod._n lib._n 1._o ●●t_n ●●g_v dam●●●●_n etc._n etc._n see_v that_o nestorius_n the_o author_n of_o a_o most_o monstrous_a superstition_n for_o say_v that_o the_o bless_a virgin_n be_v not_o mother_n of_o god_n but_o of_o man_n only_o be_v now_o condemn_v by_o the_o late_a council_n of_o ephesus_n we_o will_v that_o his_o follower_n have_v the_o note_n of_o a_o fit_a name_n du●_n unto_o they_o to_o wit_n that_o they_o be_v call_v not_o christian_n but_o nestorian_n of_o nestorius_n as_o the_o follower_n of_o arrius_n 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