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A00916 An adioynder to the supplement of Father Robert Persons his discussion of M. Doctor Barlowes ansvvere &c. Contayning a discouery, and confutation of very many foule absurdityes, falsities, and lyes in M. D. Andrewes his Latin booke intituled, Responsio ad apologiam Cardinalis Bellarmini &c. An answere to the apology of Card. Bellarmine. Written by F.T. ... Also an appendix touching a register alleaged by M. Franc. Mason for the lawfull ordayning of Protestant bishops in Q. Elizabeths raigne. Fitzherbert, Thomas, 1552-1640. 1613 (1613) STC 11022; ESTC S102269 348,102 542

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also_o the_o kingdom_n of_o juda_n from_o destruction_n in_o the_o reign_n of_o joram_n 21._o and_o ezechias_n 19_o 58._o in_o like_o manner_n god_n pardon_v job_n friend_n for_o his_o sake_n 42._o and_o direct_v they_o unto_o he_o to_o crave_v his_o prayer_n for_o they_o also_o for_o the_o prayer_n of_o moses_n he_o have_v mercy_n on_o the_o people_n 32._o and_o the_o like_v we_o read_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n whereupon_o s._n hierome_n say_v to_o vigilantius_n thus_o vigilantium_fw-la si_fw-mi apostoli_fw-la &_o martyr_n etc._n etc._n if_o the_o apostle_n and_o martyr_n be_v here_o in_o body_n can_v pray_v for_o other_o while_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v careful_a for_o themselves_o how_o much_o more_o may_v they_o do_v it_o after_o their_o crown_n victory_n and_o triumph_n one_o moses_n obtain_v of_o god_n pardon_n for_o six_o hundred_o thousand_o arm_a man_n and_o steven_n the_o follower_n of_o his_o lord_n 32._o and_o first_o martyr_n in_o christ_n crave_v pardon_n for_o his_o 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also_o to_o their_o power_n 1●_n authority_n and_o dignity_n see_v that_o christ_n who_o be_v the_o king_n of_o king_n 28._o &_o lord_n of_o lord_n &_o have_v all_o power_n in_o heaven_n and_o earth_n give_v he_o by_o his_o father_n power_n do_v in_o the_o apocalips_n promise_n to_o his_o saint_n a_o communication_n and_o participation_n of_o his_o own_o kingdom_n dominion_n and_o power_n over_o man_n qui_fw-la vicerit_fw-la say_v he_o dabo_fw-la sedere_fw-la mecum_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o that_o shall_v overcome_v i_o will_v give_v unto_o he_o to_o sit_v with_o i_o in_o my_o throne_n as_o i_o also_o have_v overcome_v and_o sit_v with_o my_o father_n in_o his_o throne_n dabo_fw-la ei_fw-la potestatem_fw-la super_fw-la gentes_fw-la etc._n etc._n 3_o i_o will_v give_v he_o power_n over_o nation_n 2._o and_o he_o shall_v rule_v they_o etc._n etc._n and_o according_a to_o this_o promise_n of_o our_o saviour_n the_o saint_n also_o say_v to_o he_o in_o the_o apocalips_n 5._o redimisti_fw-la nos_fw-la deo_fw-la in_o sanguine_fw-la tuo_fw-la etc._n etc._n thou_o have_v redeem_v we_o to_o god_n in_o thy_o blood_n and_o have_v make_v we_o to_o our_o god_n a_o kingdom_n and_o priest_n and_o we_o shall_v reign_v upon_o the_o earth_n and_o this_o may_v be_v confirm_v out_o of_o the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n 3●_n which_o say_v that_o the_o just_a when_o they_o shall_v be_v glorify_v iudicabunt_fw-la nationes_fw-la &_o dominabuntur_fw-la populis_fw-la etc._n etc._n shall_v judge_v nation_n and_o shall_v have_v dominion_n over_o people_n and_o in_o like_a manner_n the_o psalmist_n say_v speak_v of_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n saint_n exultabunt_fw-la sancti_fw-la in_o gloria_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o saint_n shall_v exult_v 14●_n and_o rejoice_v in_o glory_n etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v have_v two_o edge_a sword_n in_o their_o hand_n to_o take_v revenge_n upon_o nation_n and_o to_o chastise_v people_n to_o tie_v their_o king_n in_o fetter_n and_o their_o noble_a man_n in_o iron_n manacle_n etc._n etc._n thus_o say_v the_o royal_a prophet_n 60._o and_o albeit_o this_o shall_v be_v special_o 19_o and_o most_o manifest_o fulfil_v at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n ●2_n when_o the_o saint_n of_o god_n shall_v assist_v our_o saviour_n in_o the_o judgement_n country_n and_o condemnation_n of_o the_o wicked_a yet_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o that_o also_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n it_o be_v verify_v in_o the_o power_n and_o dominion_n that_o god_n impart_v to_o his_o saint_n give_v they_o the_o protection_n of_o city_n country_n and_o man_n as_o it_o appear_v evident_o by_o innumerable_a example_n which_o may_v be_v allege_v of_o kingdom_n and_o city_n defend_v god_n servant_n relieve_v and_o his_o enemy_n destroy_v by_o they_o 19_o for_o which_o cause_n the_o ancient_a father_n do_v worthy_o call_v they_o the_o keeper_n of_o human_a kind_n governor_n of_o
also_o in_o the_o same_o time_n treat_v of_o the_o perfection_n of_o religious_a man_n and_o have_v say_v that_o inestimable_a glory_n in_o heaven_n be_v promise_v they_o if_o they_o keep_v their_o rule_n and_o most_o grievous_a pain_n prepare_v for_o they_o if_o they_o neglect_v they_o conclude_v melius_a enim_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o it_o be_v better_a according_a to_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o scripture_n not_o to_o vow_v then_o to_o vow_n and_o not_o to_o perform_v it_o thus_o say_v cassianus_n to_o who_o i_o may_v add_v many_o other_o witness_n 13._o but_o that_o it_o be_v needless_a see_v these_o may_v suffice_v to_o show_v m._n andrews_n allow_v as_o he_o do_v the_o institut_n of_o the_o monk_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n must_v needs_o admit_v &_o allow_v religious_a vow_n of_o poverty_n chastity_n &_o obedience_n whereto_o all_o religious_a man_n be_v and_o ever_o have_v be_v bind_v by_o their_o institutes_n 24._o so_o as_o it_o be_v clear_a by_o all_o this_o that_o in_o this_o one_o point_n he_o have_v grant_v diverse_a important_a point_n of_o catholic_a religion_n yea_o and_o utter_o condemn_v his_o own_o which_o deny_v and_o impugn_v all_o those_o thing_n practise_v in_o monastical_a life_n according_a to_o the_o first_o institutes_n thereof_o beside_o that_o it_o also_o follow_v thereon_o that_o his_o religion_n be_v utter_o void_a of_o all_o christian_n perfection_n which_o special_o consist_v in_o the_o true_a imitation_n of_o christ_n life_n by_o the_o observation_n of_o the_o evangelicall_a counsel_n profess_v and_o practise_v in_o religious_a discipline_n for_o which_o cause_n all_o the_o ancient_a father_n place_v the_o high_a perfection_n of_o christian_n religion_n therein_o as_o i_o have_v evident_o show_v in_o any_o supplement_n by_o the_o clear_a testimony_n of_o s._n dionysius_n areopagita_n 60._o eusebius_n s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n s._n basil_n s._n chrisostome_n s._n hierome_n s._n augustin_n sozomenus_n &_o s._n bernard_n 25._o therefore_o it_o little_a import_v for_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n what_o he_o iangle_v against_o monk_n for_o put_v the_o case_n it_o be_v true_a that_o they_o be_v all_o degenerate_v from_o their_o first_o institute_n as_o it_o be_v most_o false_a and_o affirm_v by_o he_o without_o any_o proof_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v answer_v with_o a_o bare_a denial_n yet_o it_o suffice_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o that_o which_o i_o have_v here_o undertake_v religion_n that_o the_o say_v institut_n consist_v in_o the_o practice_n of_o many_o notable_a and_o important_a point_n of_o catholic_a religion_n and_o that_o he_o have_v by_o a_o evident_a consequent_a grant_v and_o approve_v the_o say_v point_n together_o with_o the_o institut_n against_o the_o current_n of_o the_o doctrine_n and_o profession_n of_o all_o his_o fellow_n in_o which_o respect_n i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o trouble_v thou_o good_a reader_n with_o any_o answer_n to_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o impertinent_a discourse_n and_o namely_o to_o his_o frivolous_a stale_a objection_n concern_v the_o idleness_n of_o monk_n seq_n answer_v full_o long_a since_o by_o divers_a catholic_n and_o namely_o by_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n in_o his_o controversy_n whereto_o i_o remit_v he_o because_o i_o be_o force_v to_o haste_v to_o a_o end_n for_o otherwise_o true_o i_o will_v not_o only_o say_v somewhat_o thereto_o but_o also_o i_o will_v examine_v and_o debate_n with_o he_o 2._o or_o 3._o other_o point_n which_o he_o touch_v and_o especial_o what_o be_v the_o true_a cause_n why_o monastical_a profession_n be_v first_o abrogate_a among_o the_o protestant_n and_o why_o they_o pretend_v to_o reform_v the_o church_n in_o these_o our_o day_n do_v rather_o quite_o abolish_v the_o institute_n of_o monk_n they_o seek_v to_o restore_v it_o to_o the_o first_o integrity_n if_o it_o be_v good_a at_o the_o first_o and_o only_o fall_v to_o decay_v and_o corruption_n as_o he_o signify_v 26._o for_o whereas_o he_o seem_v to_o give_v two_o cause_n thereof_o the_o one_o that_o monk_n be_v grow_v to_o be_v idle_a and_o the_o other_o that_o their_o idleness_n be_v turn_v to_o licentiousness_n if_o that_o be_v true_a those_o reformer_n shall_v rather_o have_v seek_v to_o redress_v the_o abuse_n and_o to_o reduce_v the_o monk_n to_o their_o first_o rule_n then_o to_o antiquate_v the_o whole_a institute_n which_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o holy_a scripture_n the_o express_a counsel_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o the_o example_n of_o his_o life_n be_v ordain_v 59.60_o by_o the_o apostle_n as_o i_o have_v show_v in_o my_o supplement_n and_o do_v conteyn_a in_o it_o all_o true_a christian_a perfection_n according_a to_o the_o opinion_n of_o all_o the_o father_n in_o which_o respect_n it_o can_v not_o by_o any_o humane_a authority_n be_v lawful_o abrogate_a and_o take_v quite_o out_o of_o the_o church_n beside_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o ringleader_n in_o that_o pretend_a reformation_n i_o mean_v luther_n oecol●mpadius_n bucer_n peter_n martyr_n ochinus_n michonius_n menius_n musculus_fw-la pelicanus_n pomeranus_n and_o munsterus_n be_v all_o of_o they_o votary_n that_o be_v to_o say_v monk_n friar_n and_o religious_a man_n abolish_v the_o institutes_n of_o monastical_a life_n only_o because_o they_o themselves_o be_v so_o transport_v with_o the_o fury_n of_o lust_n and_o sensuality_n that_o they_o can_v no_o long_o endure_v the_o restraint_n thereof_o in_o religious_a discipline_n 27._o and_o therefore_o they_o resolve_v not_o only_o to_o teach_v most_o beastly_a and_o fleshly_a doctrine_n tend_v to_o all_o liberty_n of_o the_o flesh_n as_o that_o it_o matrimo_fw-la be_v no_o more_o possible_a to_o live_v chaste_a then_o to_o live_v without_o meat_n that_o 119._o if_o the_o wife_n will_v not_o come_v let_v the_o maid_n come_v that_o polygamy_n or_o the_o have_v of_o many_o wife_n at_o once_o be_v 11._o not_o forbid_v in_o the_o new_a law_n yea_o and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o a_o man_n to_o mat._n pray_v for_o the_o gift_n of_o chastity_n except_o he_o sure_o know_v that_o god_n will_v give_v it_o he_o they_o resolve_v i_o say_v not_o only_o to_o teach_v this_o beastly_a and_o mahometicall_a doctrine_n but_o also_o to_o incite_v man_n thereto_o by_o their_o example_n even_o with_o the_o damnable_a breach_n of_o their_o own_o vow_n ●_o habentes_fw-la damnationem_fw-la quia_fw-la primam_fw-la fidem_fw-la 104._o irritam_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la have_v damnation_n because_o they_o break_v their_o first_o faith_n as_o s._n paul_n say_v of_o the_o young_a widow_n who_o after_o their_o vow_n of_o chastity_n have_v but_o only_o a_o will_n and_o desire_v to_o marry_v whereas_o these_o deformer_n have_v bind_v themselves_o both_o to_o chastity_n and_o monastical_a life_n by_o solemn_a vow_n abandon_v both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o and_o as_o s._n perfection_n basil_n say_v of_o such_o do_v seek_v to_o cover_v stupri_fw-la scelus_fw-la honesto_fw-la coniugij_fw-la nomine_fw-la the_o wickedness_n of_o whoredom_n with_o the_o honest_a name_n of_o marriage_n most_o of_o they_o take_v harlot_n under_o the_o name_n of_o wife_n 28._o so_o as_o m._n andrew_n may_v see_v who_o be_v indeed_o those_o locust_n who_o slothful_a idleness_n turn_v to_o a_o froth_n of_o licentious_a life_n destroy_v monastical_a perfection_n and_o profession_n among_o the_o protestant_o to_o wit_n the_o very_a first_o apostles_n and_o evangelist_n of_o their_o gospel_n i_o mean_v the_o votary_n above_o name_v and_o other_o such_o of_o their_o humour_n and_o crew_n who_o be_v weary_a of_o the_o severity_n of_o monastical_a discipline_n become_v apostata_n and_o renegat_n and_o the_o better_a to_o cloak_n and_o excuse_v their_o own_o apostasy_n not_o only_o seek_v to_o abrogate_v all_o monastical_a discipline_n but_o do_v also_o set_v abroach_o the_o new_a doctrine_n which_o m._n andrew_n and_o all_o other_o protestant_n now_o profess_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o judge_n what_o good_a fruit_n such_o bad_a tree_n can_v yield_v and_o consequent_o from_o what_o spirit_n as_o well_o the_o abrogation_n of_o monastical_a profession_n among_o the_o protestant_n as_o their_o whole_a doctrine_n proceed_v and_o thus_o much_o for_o this_o point_n 29._o the_o cardinal_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o name_n catholic_a do_v most_o proper_o belong_v to_o they_o that_o live_v in_o the_o unity_n and_o obedience_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n allege_v s._n ambrose_n who_o have_v declare_v that_o his_o brother_n satyrus_n be_v by_o shipwreck_n cast_v upon_o a_o coast_n where_o there_o be_v many_o schismatic_o call_v luciferians_n thereof_o ask_v the_o bishop_n of_o the_o place_n whether_o he_o do_v agree_v with_o the_o catholic_a bishop_n and_o explicate_v the_o same_o present_o say_v id_fw-la est_fw-la a_fw-fr cum_fw-la romana_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la consentiret_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v whether_o he_o agree_v with_o the_o roman_a church_n whereto_o m._n andrew_n answer_v that_o ambrose_n
the_o last_o chapter_n where_o i_o also_o charge_v as_o well_o m._n andrews_n as_o m._n barlow_n with_o the_o evident_a abuse_n of_o this_o place_n of_o holy_a scripture_n in_o diverse_a respect_n and_o therefore_o i_o beseech_v thou_o good_a reader_n take_v pain_n to_o review_v what_o i_o have_v say_v there_o if_o thou_o do_v not_o well_o remember_v it_o so_o as_o i_o may_v now_o conclude_v upon_o these_o two_o reason_n of_o m._n andrews_n that_o he_o be_v both_o a_o ignorant_a and_o a_o corrupt_a doctor_n ignorant_a in_o affirm_v that_o moses_n lay_v a_o way_n his_o priesthood_n and_o corrupt_v in_o notable_o abuse_v the_o holy_a scripture_n 43._o and_o whereas_o he_o very_a of●_n recur_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o point_n to_o the_o example_n of_o the_o king_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n seq_n i_o have_v sufficient_o answer_v thereto_o in_o my_o supplement_n where_o i_o have_v prove_v first_o that_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n do_v express_o and_o manifest_o give_v to_o the_o high_a priest_n the_o supreme_a authority_n not_o only_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n but_o also_o even_o in_o temporal_a affair_n forasmuch_o as_o concern_v the_o decision_n of_o doubt_n and_o difficult_a question_n second_o that_o the_o seq_n king_n be_v not_o at_o their_o institution_n exempt_a from_o this_o law_n but_o rather_o command_v to_o observe_v it_o three_o that_o the_o seq_n particular_a example_n which_o he_o and_o other_o be_v wont_a to_o allege_v of_o josua_n 44._o david_n 50._o solomon_n seq_n ezechtas_n seq_n and_o josias_n do_v make_v nothing_o for_o their_o purpose_n &_o that_o diverse_a other_o seq_n example_n do_v clear_o prove_v the_o contrary_n and_o last_o that_o although_o it_o be_v true_a that_o king_n be_v superior_a to_o priest_n in_o the_o old_a law_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o 56._o follow_v thereon_o that_o they_o be_v so_o now_o also_o in_o the_o new_a law_n as_o well_o because_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n at_o least_o the_o judicial_a and_o ceremonial_a part_n thereof_o be_v whole_o abrogate_a by_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n as_o also_o because_o our_o saviour_n ordain_v a_o new_a and_o far_o more_o excellent_a priesthood_n &_o manner_n of_o government_n in_o his_o church_n which_o beginning_n in_o the_o apostle_n and_o spiritual_a pastor_n be_v continue_v also_o most_o evident_o in_o they_o for_o 300_o year_n without_o interruption_n to_o wit_n during_o the_o paganism_n of_o the_o emperor_n and_o no_o new_a commission_n ever_o since_o that_o time_n know_v to_o be_v give_v by_o christ_n to_o king_n whereby_o they_o be_v authorize_v to_o take_v upon_o they_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n 44._o so_o that_o i_o be_o to_o demand_v of_o m._n andrews_n as_o i_o also_o do_v of_o m._n barlow_n in_o my_o church_n supplement_n how_o and_o by_o what_o commission_n the_o supreme_a authority_n in_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n be_v transfer_v from_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n to_o king_n after_o they_o be_v christen_v see_v 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god_n who_o give_v the_o levit_n not_o to_o the_o temporal_a prince_n 8._o but_o to_o aaron_n and_o his_o child_n tradidi_fw-la eos_fw-la dono_fw-la aaron_n &_o filijs_fw-la eius_fw-la de_fw-la medio_fw-la populi_fw-la i_o have_v give_v they_o say_v almighty_a god_n for_o a_o gift_n to_o aaron_n and_o his_o child_n out_o of_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o people_n beside_o that_o god_n ordain_v express_o that_o the_o tribe_n of_o levi_n shall_v not_o be_v number_v 1._o neither_o yet_o have_v any_o part_n or_o inheritance_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o israel_n because_o he_o have_v reserve_v the_o same_o for_o his_o own_o service_n and_o therefore_o will_v himself_n be_v their_o possession_n 18._o portion_n and_o inheritance_n so_o that_o this_o be_v very_o clear_a in_o the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o law_n 24._o which_o as_o i_o also_o prove_v be_v never_o alter_v but_o rather_o confirm_v at_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o king_n who_o be_v express_o bind_v to_o observe_v the_o whole_a 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the_o key_n or_o feed_v my_o sheep_n no_o but_o because_o rome_n be_v then_o the_o seat_n of_o the_o emperor_n and_o govern_v the_o rest_n so_o he_o and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o conclude_v thus_o sea_n quod_fw-la ergo_fw-la habet_fw-la roma_fw-la de_fw-la primatu_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o that_o which_o rome_n have_v of_o the_o primacy_n be_v not_o from_o christ_n but_o from_o the_o father_n and_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o emperor_n seat_n and_o not_o for_o the_o sea_n of_o peter_n 61._o whereto_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o m._n andrews_n must_v learn_v to_o distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o primacy_n of_o s._n peter_n and_o the_o privilege_n grant_v to_o the_o sea_n of_o rome_n for_o that_o the_o say_a primacy_n can_v not_o be_v from_o any_o but_o from_o christ_n himself_o whereas_o the_o roman_a church_n may_v have_v and_o have_v privilege_n from_o man_n that_o be_v to_o say_v not_o only_o from_o general_a counsel_n but_o also_o from_o temporal_a prince_n as_o from_o constantine_n pepin_n charles_n the_o great_a and_o other_o catholic_a prince_n and_o therefore_o m._n andrews_n argue_v most_o absurd_o from_o the_o privilege_n to_o the_o primacy_n deny_v that_o the_o primacy_n be_v from_o christ_n because_o the_o privilege_n be_v from_o man_n and_o some_o of_o they_o give_v for_o humane_a respect_n wherein_o he_o show_v himself_o as_o wise_n as_o if_o he_o shall_v deny_v the_o regalty_n and_o sovereignty_n of_o our_o king_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o prerogative_n and_o privilege_n grant_v to_o they_o by_o the_o parliament_n or_o as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v his_o spouse_n be_v not_o institute_v by_o he_o but_o by_o man_n because_o aswell_o temporal_a prince_n as_o general_a counsel_n have_v give_v great_a privilege_n thereto_o 62._o second_o i_o say_v that_o m._n andrew_n be_v very_o simple_a if_o he_o see_v not_o peter_n that_o the_o penner_n of_o the_o canon_n have_v great_a reason_n to_o avoid_v therein_o all_o mention_n of_o the_o key_n and_o of_o the_o pastoral_n commission_n give_v by_o our_o saviour_n to_o s._n peter_n as_o also_o of_o the_o privilege_n grant_v to_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o respect_n of_o s._n pet●rs_n sea_n see_v that_o the_o same_o can_v not_o any_o way_n further_o the_o pretence_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n but_o rather_o hinder_v it_o for_o what_o can_v he_o demand_v for_o any_o of_o those_o respect_n will_v m._n andrews_n have_v have_v he_o to_o say_v that_o because_o christ_n give_v s._n peter_n the_o key_n and_o commission_n to_o feed_v his_o sheep_n therefore_o it_o be_v convenient_a that_o the_o council_n shall_v also_o give_v the_o like_a authority_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n or_o prefer_v he_o before_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n and_o antioch_n which_o be_v in_o deed_n his_o demand_n how_o will_v this_o conclusion_n follow_v of_o those_o premise_n whereas_o the_o other_o consequent_a be_v not_o so_o evil_a to_o wit_n that_o because_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v be_v in_o time_n past_o privilege_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o imperial_a seat_n it_o be_v convenient_a that_o also_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n shall_v have_v like_o privilege_n for_o the_o same_o reason_n 63._o again_o what_o shall_v the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n have_v gain_v by_o mention_v privilege_n grant_v to_o peter_n sea_n shall_v he_o not_o have_v hinder_v his_o own_o cause_n thereby_o and_o plead_v against_o himself_o for_o alexandria_n and_o antioch_n for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o s._n peter_n be_v bishop_n of_o antioch_n some_o year_n before_o he_o come_v to_o rome_n and_o that_o he_o make_v his_o disciple_n s._n mark_v bishop_n of_o alexandria_n in_o which_o respect_n those_o two_o church_n have_v always_o the_o pre-eminence_n before_o all_o other_o next_o after_o the_o roman_a see_v then_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinoples_n pretence_n be_v no_o other_o but_o to_o be_v prefer_v before_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n and_o antioch_n he_o have_v no_o less_o reason_n to_o forbear_v all_o mention_n of_o peter_n sea_n canon_n and_o of_o the_o privilege_n grant_v thereto_o then_o m._n andrews_n have_v in_o set_v down_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o canon_n to_o conceal_v and_o omit_v all_o that_o which_o will_v have_v discover_v his_o fraud_n and_o overthrow_v his_o cause_n i_o mean_v that_o the_o second_o place_n after_o rome_n be_v grant_v by_o that_o canon_n to_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n and_o therefore_o he_o be_v not_o so_o simple_a to_o touch_v that_o string_n which_o will_v have_v mar_v all_o his_o music_n as_o it_o have_v be_v partly_o signify_v before_o and_o will_v further_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o follow_v 64._o for_o have_v say_v that_o which_o you_o have_v hear_v before_o concern_v privilege_n grant_v by_o the_o father_n to_o the_o roman_a sea_n because_o rome_n be_v then_o the_o imperial_a city_n he_o add_v supra_fw-la in_o sua_fw-la autem_fw-la iam_fw-la potestate_fw-la esse_fw-la ex_fw-la eadem_fw-la ratione_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o father_n of_o the_o council_n signify_v that_o it_o be_v now_o in_o their_o power_n for_o the_o same_o reason_n see_v that_o constantinople_n do_v enjoy_v both_o the_o imperial_a seat_n and_o senate_n to_o advance_v it_o also_o to_o equal_a dignity_n and_o for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v equal_a in_o all_o other_o thing_n to_o make_v it_o equal_a also_o in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n and_o to_o use_v their_o own_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o be_v magnify_v as_o rome_n be_v so_o he_o wherein_o he_o not_o only_o falsify_v the_o sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o the_o canon_n in_o that_o he_o make_v it_o to_o give_v a_o absolute_a equality_n to_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n with_o that_o of_o rome_n but_o also_o crafty_o leave_v out_o all_o mention_n of_o the_o second_o place_n after_o rome_n 28._o which_o be_v grant_v to_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n by_o that_o canon_n &_o do_v immediate_o follow_v the_o greek_a word_n which_o he_o allege_v and_o overthrow_v all_o the_o equality_n that_o he_o pretend_v to_o be_v mention_v there_o for_o after_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d these_o word_n do_v follow_v immediate_o in_o the_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o in_o our_o latin_a copy_n be_v very_o well_o translate_v word_n for_o word_n secundam_fw-la post_fw-la illam_fw-la existentem_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v be_v the_o second_o after_o it_o whereby_o it_o be_v signify_v that_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n which_o have_v wont_a to_o have_v a_o inferior_a place_n to_o diverse_a other_o church_n shall_v from_o thenceforth_o be_v the_o second_o after_o rome_n and_o do_v not_o m._n andrews_n trow_v you_o see_v this_o in_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a and_o if_o he_o see_v it_o with_o what_o conscience_n can_v he_o so_o deep_o dissemble_v it_o as_o not_o only_o to_o leave_v out_o all_o mention_n of_o it_o but_o also_o to_o make_v a_o equality_n and_o parity_n in_o dignity_n and_o in_o all_o thing_n else_o betwixt_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o constantinople_n whereas_o the_o word_n which_o he_o conceal_v do_v make_v it_o clear_a that_o the_o equality_n mention_v in_o the_o canon_n must_v needs_o be_v understand_v only_o according_a to_o distributive_a justice_n that_o be_v to_o say_v without_o impeachment_n or_o prejudice_n of_o the_o different_a degree_n and_o dignity_n of_o the_o two_o church_n as_o i_o have_v ample_o declare_v before_o 65._o and_o as_o for_o the_o greek_a word_n which_o he_o cite_v to_o fortify_v his_o forgery_n they_o do_v not_o extend_v so_o far_o as_o he_o will_v stretch_v they_o i_o mean_v to_o make_v a_o parity_n and_o equality_n in_o dignity_n for_o whereas_o the_o greek_a text_n say_v that_o constantinople_n shall_v be_v magnify_v as_o rome_n be_v the_o same_o may_v very_o well_o stand_v with_o the_o foresay_a equality_n which_o distributive_a justice_n ordain_v to_o wit_n with_o the_o reservation_n of_o the_o different_a dignity_n of_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o as_o when_o a_o noble_a man_n and_o a_o mean_a man_n do_v concur_v in_o one_o act_n or_o service_n to_o the_o common_a wealth_n and_o both_o of_o they_o be_v reward_v and_o advance_v according_a to_o their_o different_a quality_n it_o may_v true_o be_v say_v that_o the_o mean_a man_n be_v advance_v as_o the_o noble_a man_n be_v though_o not_o to_o the_o same_o degree_n for_o both_o of_o they_o be_v advance_v as_o well_o the_o one_o as_o the_o other_o and_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o make_v equal_a in_o dignity_n 66._o but_o now_o if_o we_o take_v the_o greek_a word_n allege_v by_o m._n andrews_n or_o the_o latin_a in_o our_o translation_n with_o the_o restriction_n that_o immediate_o follow_v whereby_o the_o second_o place_n after_o rome_n be_v assign_v to_o constantinople_n
etc._n etc._n thus_o say_v the_o cardinal_n and_o after_o have_v lay_v down_o s._n cyprian_n word_n allege_v by_o s._n augustine_n be_v the_o same_o that_o you_o have_v hear_v before_o he_o add_v the_o word_n of_o s._n augustine_n which_o be_v these_o ecce_fw-la ubi_fw-la commemorate_fw-la cyprianus_n etc._n etc._n behold_v how_o cyprian_n do_v show_v that_o peter_n the_o apostle_n in_o who_o the_o primacy_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v preeminent_a with_o such_o a_o excellent_a grace_n correct_v by_o paul_n a_o late_a apostle_n when_o he_o deal_v concern_v circumcision_n otherways_o then_o truth_n require_v so_o say_v s._n augustin_n whereby_o it_o evident_o appear_v how_o he_o understand_v s._n cyprian_n in_o this_o place_n to_o wit_n that_o albeit_o peter_n be_v preeminent_a and_o far_o excel_v the_o apostle_n by_o reason_n of_o his_o primacy_n yet_o when_o he_o err_v he_o patient_o suffer_v himself_o to_o be_v correct_v by_o paul_n and_o do_v not_o insolent_o and_o arrogant_o defend_v his_o error_n stand_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o his_o primacy_n and_o challenge_v obedience_n of_o s._n paul_n and_o other_o 15._o this_o then_o be_v so_o and_o the_o cardinal_n opinion_n concern_v the_o meaning_n of_o s._n cyprian_n in_o this_o place_n be_v so_o ●ell_o fortify_v imputation_n as_o you_o have_v now_o hear_v by_o s._n augustine_n construction_n and_o judgement_n thereof_o what_o reason_n have_v any_o man_n to_o think_v that_o the_o cardinal_n do_v as_o m._n andrews_n charge_v he_o purposely_o and_o crafty_o suppress_v those_o word_n of_o s._n cyprian_n as_o not_o make_v for_o peter_n primacy_n whereas_o you_o see_v he_o take_v they_o to_o make_v much_o for_o it_o and_o do_v urge_v they_o notable_o to_o prove_v it_o therefore_o can_v any_o reasonable_a man_n imagine_v any_o fraud_n in_o the_o cardinal_n or_o any_o other_o cause_n why_o he_o do_v not_o eyte_n they_o in_o his_o apology_n but_o partly_o for_o brevitye_n sake_n which_o every_o may_v seethe_v how_o much_o he_o affect_v in_o all_o his_o work_n and_o partly_o because_o he_o think_v he_o have_v allege_v sufficient_a already_o out_o of_o that_o father_n to_o prove_v his_o intent_n 16._o so_o that_o whereas_o m._n andrews_n say_v ea_fw-la cypriani_fw-la mens_fw-la videtur_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o mind_n or_o sense_n of_o cyprian_a seem_v to_o be_v that_o if_o peter_n have_v say_v he_o have_v the_o primacy_n he_o have_v insolent_o challenge_v somewhat_o to_o himself_o that_o be_v to_o say_v more_o than_o be_v due_a unto_o he_o he_o do_v very_o well_o to_o say_v videtur_fw-la it_o seem_v for_o if_o he_o have_v absolute_o affirm_v it_o he_o have_v overlash_v very_o far_o beside_o that_o he_o may_v learn_v if_o it_o please_v he_o to_o make_v a_o great_a difference_n betwixt_o insolent_a true_o and_o ●also_fw-la insolent_o and_o false_o for_o a_o man_n may_v take_v upon_o he_o a_o true_a authority_n and_o speak_v of_o it_o insolent_o that_o be_v to_o say_v without_o just_a cause_n or_o in_o defence_n of_o some_o evil_a act_n and_o yet_o not_o false_o because_o it_o be_v true_a that_o he_o have_v the_o authority_n which_o he_o pretend_v and_o therefore_o i_o say_v that_o if_o s._n peter_n shall_v have_v stand_v upon_o his_o primacy_n in_o defence_n of_o his_o erroneous_a act_n and_o say_v that_o s._n paul_n ought_v to_o follow_v and_o obey_v he_o therein_o because_o he_o be_v the_o primate_n and_o head_n of_o the_o apostles●_n he_o have_v both_o say_v and_o do_v insolent_o which_o nevertheless_o in_o defence_n of_o a_o truth_n or_o upon_o some_o other_o just_a occasion_n he_o may_v both_o say_v and_o do_v without_o all_o note_n of_o insolency_n yea_o just_o and_o necessary_o because_o he_o have_v indeed_o the_o primacy_n and_o therefore_o be_v to_o be_v obey_v and_o follow_v in_o all_o good_a and_o just_a action_n 17._o but_o now_o m._n andrews_n go_v forward_o and_o whereas_o the_o cardinal_n conclude_v that_o peter_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n be_v therefore_o the_o head_n of_o it_o supr_n m._n andrews_n grant_v cyprian_n that_o s._n peter_n be_v fundamentum_fw-la quidem_fw-la unum_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la unicum_fw-la one_o but_o not_o the_o only_a foundation_n esse_fw-la enim_fw-la illiusce_fw-la aedificij_fw-la duodecem_fw-la fundamenta_fw-la for_o that_o there_o be_v twelve_o foundation_n of_o that_o build_n but_o m._n andrews_n be_v here_o short_a of_o his_o account_n for_o he_o shall_v rather_o have_v say_v that_o there_o be_v thirteen_o except_o he_o will_v exclude_v christ_n of_o who_o the_o apostle_n say_v fundamentum_fw-la aliud_fw-la nemo_fw-la potest_fw-la ponere_fw-la etc._n etc._n no_o man_n can_v lay_v any_o other_o foundation_n then_o that_o which_o be_v already_o lay_v 3._o jesus_n christ_n of_o who_o also_o the_o prophet_n say_v ecce_fw-la ego_fw-la ponam_fw-la in_o fundamentis_fw-la zion_n lapidem_fw-la etc._n etc._n 28._o behold_v i_o will_v lay_v a_o stone_n in_o the_o foundation_n of_o zion_n a_o approve_a stone_n a_o corner_n and_o precious_a stone_n found_v in_o the_o foundation_n etc._n etc._n 18._o and_o this_o i_o be_o sure_a m._n andrews_n will_v not_o deny_v see_v that_o it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o most_o special_a argument_n whereby_o his_o fellow_n be_v wont_a to_o exclude_v s._n peter_n from_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n to_o wit_n because_o christ_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o it_o if_o therefore_o m._n andrews_n will_v admit_v twelve_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n without_o prejudice_n to_o christ_n he_o may_v also_o admit_v eleven_o without_o prejudice_n to_o peter_n for_o albeit_o the_o twelve_o apostle_n be_v all_o found_v upon_o christ_n who_o be_v the_o first_o and_o principal_a stone_n yet_o peter_n may_v have_v the_o first_o place_n in_o the_o foundation_n next_o after_o christ_n be_v immediate_o found_v on_o he_o as_o head_n and_o ordinary_a pastor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o rest_n upon_o peter_n as_o extraordinary_a and_o subordinate_a to_o 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saviour_n above_o the_o rest_n for_o his_o virginity_n 29._o and_o whereas_o jovinian_a also_o urge_v the_o supreme_a dignity_n of_o s._n peter_n as_o that_o the_o church_n be_v found_v upon_o he_o be_v a_o marry_a man_n and_o not_o upon_o s._n john_n who_o be_v a_o virgin_n wherein_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o jovinian_a seek_v to_o fortify_v his_o heresy_n by_o a_o argument_n draw_v from_o a_o point_n of_o know_a catholic_a doctrine_n s._n hierome_n be_v so_o far_o from_o deny_v the_o church_n to_o be_v found_v on_o peter_n that_o he_o notable_o confirm_v it_o declare_v that_o peter_n be_v make_v thereby_o head_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o have_v teach_v that_o the_o church_n be_v also_o found_v equal_o upon_o all_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o sense_n that_o i_o have_v declare_v he_o give_v a_o reason_n not_o only_o why_o s._n peter_n be_v make_v head_n of_o the_o rest_n to_o wit_n to_o take_v away_o the_o occasion_n of_o schism_n but_o also_o why_o he_o be_v a_o marry_a man_n be_v 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the_o same_o pope_n have_v hear_v the_o complaint_n of_o certain_a priest_n in_o africa_n against_o paulinus_n their_o bishop_n commit_v the_o hear_n and_o decision_n of_o the_o cause_n to_o victor_n the_o primate_n of_o numidia_n and_o columbus_n with_o other_o bishop_n give_v they_o commission_n to_o hear_v and_o determine_v it_o among_o themselves_o 8._o except_o they_o shall_v think_v the_o assistance_n of_o his_o officer_n hilarius_n needful_a for_o the_o better_a determination_n of_o the_o cause_n 35._o in_o like_a manner_n a_o complaint_n be_v exhibit_v to_o the_o say_a pope_n by_o donadeus_fw-la a_o deacon_n against_o victor_n his_o bishop_n he_o depute_v the_o foresay_a columbus_n and_o other_o bishop_n to_o examine_v the_o cause_n and_o to_o punish_v the_o bishop_n if_o he_o be_v find_v in_o fault_n and_o the_o like_a commission_n he_o give_v also_o to_o a_o synod_n of_o bishop_n hold_v at_o bizacium_n in_o africa_n for_o the_o trial_n of_o the_o cause_n of_o clementius_fw-la 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and_o sound_v for_o the_o catholic_n to_o be_v take_v in_o the_o literal_a sense_n as_o the_o cardinal_n allege_v it_o especial_o see_v it_o be_v most_o conform_a to_o origens_n doctrine_n in_o other_o place_n as_o in_o his_o homily_n upon_o diverse_a evangelist_n 2._o where_o he_o call_v s._n peter_n summum_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la verticem_fw-la the_o chief_a or_o supreme_a head_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o therefore_o discourse_v also_o afterward_o in_o the_o same_o place_n of_o the_o particular_a privilege_n of_o grace_n give_v by_o our_o saviour_n to_o s._n john_n the_o apostle_n he_o prefer_v nevertheless_o s._n peter_n before_o he_o in_o dignity_n say_v nemo_fw-la nos_fw-la existimet_fw-la petro_n joannem_fw-la prefer_v etc._n etc._n let_v no_o man_n think_v that_o i_o prefer_v john_n before_o peter_n who_o will_v so_o do_v for_o which_o of_o the_o apostle_n be_v hygh_a in_o dignity_n than_o he_o qui_fw-la est_fw-la &_o dicitur_fw-la vertex_fw-la eorum_fw-la who_o be_v call_v and_o be_v their_o head_n so_o he_o and_o i_o be_o sure_a m._n andrews_n can_v not_o imagine_v that_o origen_n deduce_v the_o supreme_a dignity_n of_o peter_n from_o any_o other_o ground_n or_o reason_n but_o because_o he_o have_v summam_fw-la rerum_fw-la de_fw-la pascendis_fw-la ovibus_fw-la the_o chief_a charge_n of_o feed_v christ_n sheep_n and_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n as_o origen_n acknowledge_v in_o the_o place_n allege_v by_o the_o cardinal_n and_o diverse_a other_o and_o this_o shall_v suffice_v for_o he_o 8._o the_o second_o place_n which_o i_o be_o to_o debate_v with_o m._n andrew_n be_v take_v by_o the_o cardinal_n out_o of_o s._n hylary_n in_o these_o word_n matth._n o_o in_o nuncupatione_fw-la novi_fw-la nominis_fw-la felix_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la etc._n etc._n o_o happy_a foundation_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o nuncupation_n of_o a_o new_a name_n &_o a_o rock_n worthy_a of_o the_o build_n thereof_o defend_v that_o be_v to_o say_v 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how_o the_o apostle_n be_v call_v foundation_n of_o the_o church_n 2d_o without_o derogation_n either_o to_o christ_n who_o be_v the_o first_o and_o chief_a foundation_n or_o to_o peter_n who_o be_v the_o second_o immediate_o ground_v upon_o christ_n and_o therefore_o i_o remit_v my_o reader_n thereto_o 9_o and_o now_o to_o go_v forward_o with_o m._n andrew_n his_o answer_n he_o add_v the_o rest_n of_o s._n hilary_n word_n thus_o dignam_fw-la aedificatione_n christi_fw-la petram_fw-la a_o rock_n worthy_a of_o the_o build_n of_o christ_n which_o word_n of_o hilary_n he_o gloss_v thus_o sed_fw-la fidei_fw-la ratione_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o by_o reason_n or_o mean_n of_o faith_n say_v hilary_n himself_o and_o not_o of_o his_o person_n that_o peter_n may_v depend_v on_o the_o faith_n and_o not_o the_o faith_n upon_o peter_n gloss_n thus_o say_v m._n andrews_n seek_v by_o the_o help_n of_o a_o lie_a gloss_n of_o his_o own_o to_o make_v his_o reader_n believe_v that_o s._n hilary_n do_v so_o admit_v s._n peter_n
no_o man_n can_v doubt_v but_o that_o those_o father_n do_v therein_o exercise_v act_n of_o pure_a devotion_n as_o you_o see_v s._n gregory_n nyssen_n do_v according_a to_o the_o belief_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n at_o that_o time_n which_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o testimony_n that_o you_o have_v hear_v already_o and_o will_v be_v much_o more_o manifest_a by_o those_o that_o yet_o rest_v to_o be_v examine_v and_o this_o shall_v suffice_v for_o this_o point_n 16._o the_o next_o place_n that_o he_o take_v in_o hand_n to_o answer_v be_v one_o of_o s._n ambrose_n in_o these_o word_n 15._o obsecrandi_fw-la sunt_fw-la angeli_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o angel_n which_o be_v give_v we_o for_o guardian_n and_o defender_n be_v to_o be_v pray_v unto_o and_o the_o martyr_n in_o like_a manner_n who_o protection_n we_o seem_v to_o challenge_v by_o have_v their_o body_n in_o pledge_n they_o may_v pray_v for_o our_o sin_n andrews_n who_o with_o their_o own_o blood_n have_v wash_v away_o their_o own_o sin_n if_o they_o have_v any_o 〈◊〉_d say_v s._n ambrose_n whereto_o m._n andrew_n answer_v that_o the_o cardinal_n may_v very_o well_o have_v forbear_v to_o produce_v this_o place_n and_o not_o have_v cite_v it_o so_o greedy_o as_o he_o have_v do_v but_o that_o he_o little_o care_v say_v he_o as_o it_o seem_v that_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v hold_v for_o superfluous_a pot●rat_fw-mi rather_o than_o he_o will_v not_o pray_v to_o saint_n for_o superfluus_fw-la certè_fw-la sanguis_fw-la christi_fw-la etc._n etc._n true_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v superfluous_a if_o martyr_n can_v wash_v away_o their_o sin_n with_o their_o own_o blood_n so_o he_o 17._o whereupon_o he_o also_o infer_v that_o the_o reader_n may_v preceive_v hereby_o that_o ambrose_n write_v this_o when_o he_o be_v but_o a_o novice_n in_o chistian_n religion_n and_o that_o it_o be_v no_o marvel_n if_o he_o say_v that_o martyr_n be_v to_o be_v pray_v unto_o see_v he_o teacheth●_n that_o they_o have_v wash_v their_o sin_n with_o their_o own_o blood_n wherein_o appear_v the_o modesty_n of_o m._n andrews_n and_o his_o good_a spirit_n who_o rather_o than_o he_o will_v acknowledge_v his_o own_o error_n which_o be_v evident_o convince_v by_o this_o place_n charge_v this_o holy_a father_n with_o the_o most_o execrable_a and_o blasphemous_a doctrine_n that_o can_v be_v imagine_v as_o to_o teach_v that_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v superfluous_a which_o any_o christian_a hart_n will_v abbore_n to_o hear_v and_o much_o more_o to_o hold_v and_o teach_v see_v that_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v thereupon_o that_o all_o christian_a religion_n and_o belief_n be_v in_o vain_a be_v all_o ground_a upon_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n passion_n and_o his_o precious_a blood_n shed_v for_o us._n father_n 18._o and_o true_o if_o s._n ambrose_n may_v be_v charge_v with_o this_o blasphemous_a opinion_n for_o the_o cause_n which_o m._n andrew_n allege_v than_o all_o the_o father_n of_o god_n church_n yea_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o may_v in_o like_a manner_n be_v charge_v therewith_o for_o all_o of_o they_o say_v as_o much_o in_o effect_n as_o s._n ambrose_n do_v which_o also_o may_v by_o some_o perverse_a and_o heretical_a ●rayne_n be_v wrest_v to_o the_o same_o perverse_a sense_n albeit_o to_o those_o who_o do_v consider_v the_o ground_n of_o their_o doctrine_n and_o belief_n the_o contrary_a be_v evident_a for_o who_o know_v not_o if_o malice_n do_v not_o blynd-fold_n and_o whole_o pervert_v his_o understanding_n that_o when_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o father_n any_o merit_n sufficiency_n or_o cooperation_n to_o salvation_n be_v attribute_v to_o a_o man_n or_o to_o his_o faith_n work_n or_o any_o endeavour_n of_o he_o the_o same_o be_v understand_v to_o proceed_v principal_o from_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n passion_n which_o be_v the_o cause_n ground_n and_o foundation_n of_o all_o grace_n goodness_n and_o merit_n in_o man_n and_o therefore_o be_v always_o suppose_a and_o necessary_o understand_v in_o all_o such_o manner_n of_o speech_n as_o this_o of_o s._n ambrose_n though_o it_o be_v not_o express_v julian._n 19_o as_o when_o we_o read_v in_o s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n that_o certain_a christian_a soldier_n have_v commit_v idolatry_n exhort_v one_o another_o ut_fw-la christo_fw-la satisfacerent_fw-la sanguine_fw-la svo_fw-la to_o satisfy_v christ_n with_o their_o blood_n and_o in_o s._n cyprian_a 2._o omne_fw-la peccata_fw-la passione_n purgare_fw-la to_o purge_v all_o sin_n by_o passion_n or_o suffer_v and_o again_o in_o another_o place_n 3._o redimere_fw-la peccata_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o redeem_v sin_n with_o just_a sorrow_n and_o satisfaction_n and_o to_o wassh_v the_o wound_n of_o sin_n with_o tear_n 14._o also_o in_o the_o same_o father_n deo_fw-la precibus_fw-la &_o operibus_fw-la satisfaccre_fw-la to_o satisfy_v god_n with_o prayer_n and_o work_n eleemos_fw-la and_o sordes_fw-la eleemosynis_fw-la abluere_fw-la to_o wash_v away_o the_o filth_n of_o sin_n with_o alm_n and_o in_o origen_n poenitendo_fw-la flendo_fw-la satisfaciendo_fw-la delere_fw-la quod_fw-la admissum_fw-la est_fw-la to_o abolish_v exod_n or_o blot_v out_o that_o which_o have_v be_v commit_v with_o repentance_n weep_v and_o satisfaction_n also_o in_o tertullian_n 6._o that_o the_o sinner_n have_v cui_fw-la satisfaciat_fw-la to_o who_o he_o may_v give_v satisfaction_n and_o that_o god_n do_v offer_v we_o impunitatem_fw-la poenitentiae_fw-la compensatione_fw-la redimendam_fw-la impunity_n or_o remission_n of_o punishment_n to_o be_v redeem_v with_o the_o recompense_n of_o penance_n 20._o we_o read_v also_o in_o irenaeus_n that_o our_o good_n or_o substance_n be_v give_v to_o the_o poor_a sine_fw-la solutionem_fw-la faciunt_fw-la praeteritae_fw-la cupiditatis_fw-la do_v cause_n solution_n or_o remission_n of_o our_o former_a covetousness_n also_o in_o s._n augustine_n that_o for_o daily_a and_o light_a sin_n quotidiana_fw-la oratio_fw-la fidelium_fw-la satisfacit_fw-la the_o daily_a prayer_n of_o the_o faithful_a do_v satisfy_v fine_a and_o in_o s._n hilary_n that_o david_n facti_fw-la veteris_fw-la crimen_fw-la lacrymis_fw-la abluit_fw-la david_n wash_v away_o the_o fault_n of_o his_o old_a deed_n with_o tear_n in_o s._n chrysostome_n that_o s._n peter_n adeo_fw-la abluit_fw-la negationem_fw-la etc._n etc._n do_v so_o wash_v away_o his_o denial_n of_o christ_n with_o his_o tear_n or_o repentance_n that_o he_o be_v make_v the_o chief_a apostle_n and_o again_o in_o the_o same_o oration_n jud._n una_fw-la anima_fw-la quam_fw-la lucrati_fw-la fuerimus_fw-la etc._n etc._n one_o soul_n which_o we_o have_v gain_v may_v abolish_v the_o weight_n of_o innumerable_a sin_n animaeque_fw-la redimend●_n fieri_fw-la precium_fw-la in_o illo_fw-la die_fw-la and_o become_v a_o price_n to_o redeem_v our_o soul_n in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n 2._o final_o to_o omit_v innumerable_a other_o place_n of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n s._n gregory_n the_o great_a teach_v that_o peccata_fw-la delenda_fw-la sunt_fw-la austeritate_fw-la poenitentiae_fw-la sin_n be_v to_o be_v blot_v out_o with_o the_o austerity_n of_o penance_n and_o the_o possunt_fw-la satisfactione_n purgari_fw-la they_o may_v be_v purge_v with_o satisfaction_n thus_o say_v these_o holy_a father_n 21._o and_o now_o will_v m._n andrews_n charge_v they_o all_o to_o teach_v that_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v superfluous_a because_o they_o speak_v of_o man_n satisfaction_n for_o sin_n by_o wash_v the_o same_o with_o tear_n and_o by_o purge_v and_o redeem_v they_o with_o alm_n penance_n and_o martyrdom_n without_o mention_n of_o christ_n satisfaction_n for_o we_o may_v he_o not_o take_v the_o like_a exception_n also_o to_o diverse_a speech_n in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o peccatum_fw-la tuum_fw-la eleemosynis_fw-la redime_fw-la 4._o redeem_v thy_o sin_n with_o alm_n 16._o misericordia_fw-la &_o veritate_fw-la redimitur_fw-la iniquitas_fw-la iniquity_n be_v redeem_v with_o mercy_n &_o verity●_n spesalui_fw-la facti_fw-la sumus_fw-la 8._o we_o be_v save_v by_o hope_n baptisma_fw-la vos_fw-la saluos_fw-la facit_fw-la baptism_n save_v you_o saluos_fw-la nos_fw-la fecit_fw-la per_fw-la lavachrum_fw-la regenerationis_fw-la 3._o he_o have_v save_v we_o by_o the_o water_n of_o regeneration_n 2._o operamini_fw-la salutem_fw-la work_v your_o salvation_n and_o the_o like_a in_o diverse_a other_o place_n may_v he_o not_o i_o say_v cavil_v as_o well_o against_o these_o speech_n as_o against_o the_o other_o in_o s._n ambrose_n yes_o true_o christ._n 22._o for_o the_o reason_n be_v all_o one_o in_o both_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n precious_a blood_n and_o death_n be_v presuppose_v and_o necessary_o understand_v as_o well_o in_o the_o one_o as_o in_o the_o other_o and_o as_o baptism_n and_o hope_n be_v special_a mean_n to_o apply_v unto_o we_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n passion_n in_o which_o respect_n they_o be_v say_v in_o the_o scripture_n to_o save_v we_o so_o also_o tear_n of_o repentance_n penance_n alm_n good_a work_n and_o martyrdom_n whereof_o s._n
ambrose_n speak_v be_v special_a mean_n to_o apply_v unto_o we_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o christ_n and_o in_o that_o respect_n the_o father_n say_v that_o they_o satisfy_v for_o we_o wash_v away_o blot_v out_o and_o purge_v our_o sin_n to_o wit_n as_o secondary_a cause_n that_o have_v their_o operation_n by_o the_o virtue_n and_o force_v of_o the_o first_o cause_n which_o be_v the_o merit_n of_o our_o saviour_n passion_n and_o therefore_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v say_v that_o a_o physician_n have_v save_v his_o life_n he_o can_v not_o with_o reason_n be_v think_v to_o derogate_v any_o thing_n either_o from_o the_o operation_n of_o the_o medicine_n or_o from_o the_o providence_n or_o power_n of_o god_n who_o give_v force_n to_o the_o medicine_n and_o good_a success_n to_o the_o physician_n as_o neither_o he_o that_o shall_v say_v the_o medicine_n save_v his_o life_n can_v be_v think_v to_o do_v injury_n either_o to_o god_n or_o to_o the_o physician_n 23._o for_o whereas_o many_o cause_n 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shed_v their_o blood_n for_o christ_n be_v shut_v up_o as_o it_o be_v in_o a_o coffer_n that_o they_o can_v get_v out_o so_o he_o theodoret_n also_o give_v to_o martyr_n the_o title_n of_o deuce_n principes_fw-la propugnatores_fw-la &_o custodes_fw-la hominum_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o captayn_n the_o prince_n 8._o the_o defender_n and_o guardian_n of_o man_n by_o who_o say_v he_o those_o mischief_n and_o misery_n which_o devil_n do_v inflict_v upon_o we_o be_v avert_v from_o us._n s._n chrysostome_n call_v s._n peter_n corinth_n and_o s._n paul_n and_o patron_n and_o protector_n of_o the_o emperor_n whereupon_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o those_o bless_a apostle_n and_o other_o saint_n do_v understand_v the_o action_n and_o necessity_n of_o those_o who_o they_o protect_v and_o defend_v ●●_o 20._o moreover_o s._n augustine_n discourse_v how_o the_o saint_n shall_v see_v god_n in_o heaven_n after_o the_o resurrection_n and_o whether_o they_o shall_v see_v he_o with_o their_o 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believe_v that_o quae_fw-la intus_fw-la claritatem_fw-la dei_fw-la vident_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o soul_n which_o see_v into_o the_o light_n or_o brightness_n of_o god_n be_v ignorant_a of_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v abroad_o 33._o and_o again_o in_o another_o place_n quia_fw-la in_o illa_fw-la aeterna_fw-la haereditate_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o as_o much_o as_o in_o that_o eternal_a inheritance_n all_o man_n do_v see_v god_n with_o a_o common_a clarity_n or_o brightness_n what_o be_v there_o which_o they_o can_v know_v who_o know_v he_o that_o know_v all_o thing_n thus_o say_v s._n gregory_n teach_v as_o you_o see_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n know_v all_o thing_n in_o earth_n and_o yield_v the_o self_n same_o reason_n thereof_o which_o you_o have_v hear_v m._n andrews_n say_v be_v inaudita_fw-la patribus_fw-la never_o hear_v of_o among_o the_o father_n to_o wit_n that_o because_o they_o see_v and_o know_v god_n therefore_o they_o see_v and_o know_v all_o thing_n in_o he_o 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do_v know_v them●_n for_o if_o their_o desire_n shall_v not_o be_v satisfy_v they_o shall_v not_o be_v so_o happy_a and_o bless_a as_o the_o perfection_n of_o their_o beatitude_n do_v require_v beside_o that_o see_v almighty_a god_n do_v glorify_v they_o not_o only_o in_o heaven_n with_o the_o vision_n of_o his_o deity_n but_o also_o in_o earth_n with_o many_o miracle_n do_v at_o their_o monument_n as_o m._n andrews_n himself_o confess_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o place_n of_o s._n basil_n it_o be_v absurd_a to_o think_v that_o they_o do_v not_o know_v as_o well_o the_o particular_a favour_n that_o god_n do_v to_o man_n for_o their_o fake_n verè_fw-la as_o also_o the_o honour_n and_o glory_n that_o redound_v thereof_o both_o to_o god_n and_o they_o without_o which_o knowledge_n their_o beatitude_n as_o i_o have_v say_v shall_v not_o be_v complete_a 23._o now_o then_o see_v that_o our_o doctrine_n that_o saint_n do_v hear_v prayer_n or_o understand_v our_o prayer_n be_v ground_v 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cause_n 24._o and_o therefore_o he_o have_v reason_n to_o seek_v some_o better_a reason_n andrews_n which_o he_o do_v seem_v to_o put_v the_o case_n that_o it_o be_v true_a yea_o most_o manifest_a that_o saint_n do_v hear_v our_o prayer_n yet_o ne_fw-la sic_fw-la quidem_fw-la say_v he_o audemus_fw-la vota_fw-la nostra_fw-la ad_fw-la illos_fw-la precesque_fw-la dirigere_fw-la we_o dare_v not_o for_o all_o that_o direct_v our_o vow_n verum_fw-la and_o prayer_n unto_o they_o and_o hereof_o he_o yield_v this_o reason_n cum_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la ●a_n de_fw-mi re_fw-mi nullum_fw-la acceperimus_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la autem_fw-la acceperimus_fw-la in_o lege_fw-la disertis_fw-la verbis_fw-la 12._o quod_fw-la tibi_fw-la praecepero_fw-la hoc_fw-la tantùm_fw-la facies_fw-la we_o dare_v not_o say_v he_o pray_v unto_o they_o because_o we_o have_v receive_v no_o precept_n concern_v that_o point_n scripture_n but_o have_v receive_v a_o precept_n in_o the_o law_n in_o express_a word_n what_o i_o 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those_o thing_n which_o be_v ordain_v and_o prescrybed_n in_o the_o law_n to_o that_o end_n 26._o and_o this_o no_o doubt_n be_v the_o clear_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o those_o word_n for_o if_o they_o shall_v be_v understand_v as_o m._n andrews_n take_v they_o to_o exclude_v the_o practice_n of_o all_o thing_n whatsoever_o that_o be_v not_o express_o command_v in_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o law_n 4._o than_o the_o solmne_v feast_n ordain_v afterward_o by_o mardochaeus_n judith_n and_o the_o maccabee_n have_v be_v unlawful_a which_o nevertheless_o be_v approve_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o last_o of_o the_o 3._o to_o wit_n the_o feast_n of_o the_o dedication_n institute_v by_o the_o maccabee_n 10._o be_v honour_v by_o our_o saviour_n himself_o with_o his_o presence_n but_o let_v we_o put_v the_o case_n that_o this_o commandment_n of_o almighty_a god_n be_v general_a touch_v the_o service_n and_o worship_n of_o god_n in_o the_o old_a law_n argument_n will_n m._n andrew_n 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deny_v this_o see_v that_o they_o do_v admit_v diverse_a tradition_n whereof_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n nor_o example_n in_o the_o scripture_n as_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n who_o do_v not_o actual_o believe_v for_o although_o the_o same_o be_v very_a consonant_n to_o scripture_n as_o also_o be_v prayer_n to_o saint_n and_o all_o other_o thing_n which_o be_v practise_v in_o the_o catholic_a church_n yet_o the_o use_n and_o practice_n thereof_o be_v ground_v upon_o tradition_n and_o not_o upon_o the_o scripture_n rom._n as_o origen_n testify_v say_v ecclesia_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n traditionem_fw-la accepit_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o church_n receive_v a_o tradition_n from_o the_o apostle_n to_o give_v baptism_n to_o little_a child_n so_o he_o and_o s._n augustin_n also_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n say_v more_o plain_o thus_o 23._o consuetudo_fw-la m●tris_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la in_o baptizandis_fw-la paruulis_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o custom_n of_o our_o mother_n the_o church_n in_o baptise_v infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v contemn_v or_o repute_v as_o superfluous_a neither_o be_v it_o to_o be_v believe_v at_o all_o if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o apostolical_a tradition_n so_o he_o who_o also_o acknowledge_v the_o same_o in_o another_o place_n 24._o and_o say_v further_a that_o if_o any_o man_n do_v demand_v divine_a authority_n for_o it_o quamquam_fw-la quod_fw-la universa_fw-la tenet_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la etc._n etc._n albeit_o that_o which_o the_o universal_a church_n hold_v and_o have_v not_o be_v ordain_v by_o counsel_n but_o have_v always_o be_v retain_v be_v most_o right_o believe_v to_o have_v be_v deliver_v by_o no_o other_o but_o by_o apostolical_a authority_n nevertheless_o we_o may_v true_o conjecture_v by_o circumcision_n in_o the_o old_a law_n what_o force_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n have_v in_o infant_n thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n who_o to_o answer_v those_o that_o do_v demand_v divine_a authority_n for_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n in_o baptise_v infant_n do_v not_o prove_v or_o confirm_v it_o by_o any_o precept_n or_o example_n out_o of_o scripture_n but_o only_o by_o a_o probable_a conjecture_n draw_v from_o the_o figure_n of_o it_o in_o the_o old_a law_n rely_v principal_o upon_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n 33._o but_o what_o need_v i_o seek_v any_o other_o testimony_n for_o this_o matter_n see_v that_o tho._n rogers_n in_o the_o 39_o article_n agree_v upon_o by_o the_o pretend_a bishop_n and_o clergy_n of_o england_n and_o analyze_v into_o proposition_n gloss_a and_o set_v forth_o by_o he_o with_o their_o publyke_a approbation_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o young_a child_n be_v in_o any_o wise_n to_o be_v retain_v in_o the_o church_n as_o most_o agreeable_a with_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n although_o although_o say_v he_o we_o be_v not_o command_v by_o express_a term_n to_o baptize_v they_o so_o he_o whereupon_o it_o direct_o follow_v that_o m._n andrews_n have_v overlash_v great_o in_o say_v id_fw-la tantùm_fw-la audemus_fw-la facere_fw-la de_fw-la quo_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la habemus_fw-la we_o dare_v do_v that_o only_o whereof_o we_o have_v a_o precept_n also_o what_o precept_n or_o example_n have_v m._n andrews_n and_o his_o fellow_n in_o scripture_n for_o the_o use_n of_o godfather_n and_o godmother_n and_o of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n allow_v as_o well_o by_o their_o practice_n as_o by_o the_o late_a queen_n injunction_n yea_o and_o by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a canon_n of_o the_o bishop_n 30._o and_o clergy_n of_o the_o province_n of_o canterbury_n make_v in_o their_o synod_n hold_v at_o london_n with_o his_o majesties_n licence_n in_o the_o year_n 1603._o and_o publish_v the_o year_n follow_v by_o his_o majesties_n authority_n under_o the_o great_a seal_n of_o england_n in_o which_o canon_n they_o do_v not_o only_o approve_v the_o use_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n but_o also_o profess_v to_o follow_v therein_o the_o primitive_a &_o apostolical_a church_n &_o the_o true_a rule_n of_o doctrine_n concern_v thing_n indifferent_a which_o be_v consonant_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n so_o that_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n they_o retain_v the_o use_n of_o it_o without_o either_o precept_n or_o example_n in_o holy_a scripture_n 34._o and_o now_o because_o i_o have_v have_v this_o occasion_n to_o speak_v of_o this_o constitution_n constitution_n i_o can_v not_o omit_v to_o advertise_v thou_o good_a reader_n of_o a_o notable_a piece_n of_o trumpery_n and_o cozenage_n use_v by_o that_o grave_a synod_n in_o this_o very_a canon_n whereof_o we_o now_o speak_v wherein_o give_v the_o reason_n why_o they_o retain_v the_o use_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n they_o say_v they_o do_v it_o because_o the_o same_o have_v be_v ever_o accompany_v among_o they_o with_o sufficient_a caution_n &_o exception_n against_o all_o popish_a superstition_n and_o error_n and_o forsooth_o ibidem_fw-la that_o the_o world_n may_v understand_v from_o what_o popish_a error_n they_o have_v free_v the_o same_o they_o signify_v that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n since_o the_o abolish_n of_o popery_n have_v ever_o hold_v and_o teach_v that_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n use_v in_o baptism_n be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o that_o sacrament_n and_o that_o the_o infant_n baptise_a be_v by_o virtue_n of_o baptism_n before_o it_o be_v sign_v with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n receive_v into_o the_o congregation_n of_o christ_n flock_n as_o a_o perfect_a member_n thereof_o and_o not_o by_o any_o power_n ascribe_v to_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n etc._n etc._n whereupon_o they_o conclude_v that_o the_o use_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n be_v thus_o purge_v from_o all_o popish_a superstition_n and_o error_n and_o reduce_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o the_o 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especial_o see_v that_o diverse_a of_o they_o speak_v of_o public_a matter_n of_o fact_n which_o pass_v in_o their_o own_o time_n and_o knowledge_n in_o which_o respect_n they_o can_v be_v think_v to_o fain_v and_o lie_v except_o we_o shall_v take_v they_o to_o be_v void_a both_o of_o conscience_n and_o common_a honesty_n 69._o but_o m._n andrew_n add_v further_o that_o it_o appear_v even_o in_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n himself_o that_o the_o father_n be_v not_o all_o of_o one_o mind_n concern_v prayer_n to_o saint_n supra_fw-la and_o for_o proof_n thereof_o he_o remit_v his_o reader_n to_o the_o cardinal_n controversye_n answer_v and_o particular_o to_o the_o tract_n de_fw-fr beatitudine_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la the_o first_o book_n and_o 20._o chapter_n which_o true_o i_o have_v read_v diligent_o and_o can_v find_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o to_o that_o purpose_n except_o perhaps_o he_o mean_v that_o the_o cardinal_n signify_v there_o the_o different_a opinion_n of_o the_o father_n concern_v the_o manner_n how_o saint_n do_v understand_v 20._o or_o hear_v our_o prayer_n whereupon_o it_o seem_v m._n andrew_n infer_v that_o they_o differ_v also_o in_o opinion_n concern_v the_o whole_a controversy_n andrews_n when_o nevertheless_o it_o appear_v evident_o there_o that_o they_o make_v no_o doubt_n whether_o prayer_n to_o saint_n be_v lawful_a neither_o yet_o whether_o they_o know_v our_o action_n but_o only_o in_o what_o manner_n they_o know_v they_o and_o how_o they_o hear_v or_o understand_v our_o prayer_n touch_v which_o point_n and_o the_o absurd_a inference_n that_o m_n andrew_n make_v thereof_o deny_v the_o certaynty_a of_o the_o effect_n by_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o the_o cause_n or_o manner_n of_o it_o i_o have_v so_o ample_o discourse_v 16._o before_o that_o i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o say_v any_o more_o thereof_o in_o this_o place_n 70._o but_o that_o which_o i_o wish_v to_o be_v note_v
thing_n express_v by_o the_o name_n and_o so_o in_o conclusion_n with_o his_o fatemur_fw-la omne_fw-la he_o acknowledge_v we_o for_o true_a catholic_n and_o himself_o and_o his_o fellow_n for_o heretic_n 19_o and_o therefore_o i_o may_v well_o say_v unto_o he_o with_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o gospel_n ex_fw-la ore_fw-la tuo_fw-la te_fw-la iudico_fw-la serve_v nequam_fw-la 35._o and_o the_o like_v i_o may_v also_o say_v concern_v his_o grant_n in_o another_o matter_n nostr_n to_o wit_n that_o our_o bishop_n be_v true_a bishop_n and_o that_o the_o protestant_a bishop_n of_o england_n have_v their_o ordination_n from_o we_o yea_o from_o 3._o of_o we_o for_o so_o he_o give_v to_o understand_v whereupon_o he_o also_o infer_v that_o he_o and_o his_o fellow_n superintendents_n have_v a_o true_a ordination_n and_o succession_n from_o the_o catholic_a church_n whereas_o the_o quite_o contrary_a follow_v upon_o his_o grant_n for_o if_o our_o bishop_n be_v true_a bishop_n as_o have_v a_o true_a 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some_o of_o they_o bishop_n after_o the_o catholic_a manner_n etc._n etc._n and_o again_o a_o little_a after_o whereas_o it_o be_v say_v thus_o see_v the_o irish_a bishop_n will_v not_o perform_v his_o promise_n they_o resolve_v to_o ordain_v themselves_o &c._n &c._n there_o want_v also_o these_o word_n cons●●t_n nor_o the_o welsh_a bishop_n which_o word_n be_v to_o be_v add_v thuss_n see_v the_o irish_a bishop_n will_v not_o consent_v nor_o the_o welsh_a bishop_n perform_v his_o promise_n they_o resolve_v to_o ordain_v themselves_o thus_o i_o say_v it_o shall_v be_v correct_v 36._o whereby_o it_o may_v evident_o appear_v what_o a_o beggarly_a church_n and_o clergy_n they_o then_o have_v england_n and_o still_o have_v for_o have_v then_o not_o so_o much_o as_o any_o pretend_a archbishop_n or_o bishop_n of_o their_o own_o profession_n they_o be_v force_v to_o beg_v their_o consecration_n even_o of_o the_o catholic_n their_o adversary_n and_o have_v solicit_v a_o archbishop_n in_o vain_a and_o be_v out_o of_o hope_n to_o have_v the_o consent_n of_o a_o metropolitan_a to_o their_o ordination_n &_o much_o more_o to_o be_v consecrate_v by_o 2._o or_o 3._o bishop_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a canon_n of_o the_o church_n they_o determine_v as_o i_o may_v say_v to_o play_v small_a game_n rather_o than_o to_o sit_v forth_o be_v desirous_a to_o have_v some_o kind_n of_o ordination_n from_o any_o one_o catholic_a though_o inferior_a bishop_n yea_o and_o in_o fine_o they_o seek_v to_o have_v it_o from_o such_o a_o one_o as_o be_v hold_v to_o be_v the_o simple_a man_n that_o then_o be_v or_o perhaps_o ever_o have_v be_v of_o the_o english_a clergy_n for_o so_o indeed_o be_v esteem_v the_o bishop_n of_o land●●●_n who_o they_o have_v almost_o inveygle_v and_o induce_v 〈◊〉_d their_o turn_n but_o almighty_a god_n out_o of_o his_o infinite_a providence_n so_o dispose_v for_o the_o eternal_a shame_n of_o their_o pretend_a prelacy_n and_o clergy_n that_o he_o also_o in_o the_o end_n refuse_v to_o do_v it_o upon_o a_o sharp_a message_n which_o he_o receive_v from_o bishop_n ●onner_o than_o prisoner_n who_o be_v bishop_n of_o london_n and_o consequent_o chief_a bishop_n in_o the_o province_n of_o canterbury_n by_o the_o death_n of_o cardinal_n pole_n archbishop_n thereof_o send_v one_o m._n cousin_n his_o chaplain_n to_o the_o say_a bishop_n of_o landaff_n to_o threaten_v he_o with_o excommunication_n in_o case_n he_o do_v consecrate_v any_o of_o they_o whereupon_o he_o defisted_a from_o his_o purpose_n and_o they_o resolve_v to_o ordain_v and_o consecrate_v one_o another_o and_o so_o they_o do_v as_o i_o have_v signify_v in_o my_o supplement_n upon_o the_o testimony_n of_o one_o that_o be_v a_o eye-witness_n of_o what_o pass_v among_o they_o at_o their_o ordination_n 5._o to_o wit_n m.i_o thomas_n n●ale_n a_o graveman_n well_o know_v no_o doubt_n to_o many_o yet_o live_v in_o oxford_n where_o he_o be_v many_o year_n after_o reader_n of_o the_o hebrew_n lecture_n 37._o whereupon_o i_o infer_v two_o thing_n the_o one_o that_o they_o have_v no_o clergy_n nor_o church_n for_o ha●ing_v no_o bishop_n they_o have_v no_o priest_n because_o none_o can_v make_v priest_n but_o bishop_n and_o have_v neither_o bishop_n 6._o nor_o priest_n they_o have_v no_o clergy_n and_o consequent_o no_o church_n as_o i_o have_v show_v in_o my_o supplement_n out_o of_o s._n hierome_n lucifer_n the_o other_o be_v that_o m._n andrew_n and_o his_o fellow_n be_v neither_o true_a bishop_n nor_o have_v any_o succession_n from_o the_o catholic_a church_n as_o he_o say_v they_o have_v no●_n yet_o any_o lawful_a mission_n or_o vocation●_n and_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o those_o good_a shepherd_n which_o as_o our_o saviour_n say_v enter_v into_o the_o fold_n by_o the_o door_n 10._o but_o fures_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d thief_n and_o robbers●_n who_o climb_v up_o another_o way_n or_o break_v into_o it_o by_o intrusion_n and_o force_n ut_fw-la mactent_fw-la ●●●●rdant_a to_o kill_v and_o destroy_v the_o flock_n and_o so_o they_o be_v rot_v buy_v break_v of_o from_o the_o may_v n●_n root_v of_o christian_a society_n and_o consequent_o heretic_n and_o schismatics_n as_o well_o by_o m._n barlowes_n ground_n before_o seq_n mention_v as_o according_a to_o m._n andrew_n his_o own_o grant_n else_o let_v he_o name_n unto_o we_o those_o 3._o catholic_a bishop_n who_o as_o he_o say_v consecrate_v their_o first_o bishop_n at_o the_o change_n of_o religion_n in_o queen_n elizabeth_n time_n 19_o which_o i_o know_v he_o can_v do_v and_o therefore_o i_o conclude_v of_o he_o in_o this_o point_n as_o i_o do_v in_o the_o last_o ex_fw-la ore_fw-la tuo_fw-la te_fw-la iudico_fw-la 38._o and_o this_o true_o may_v suffice_v to_o show_v how_o he_o fortify_v our_o cause_n and_o overthrow_v his_o own_o but_o that_o beside_o diverse_a other_o point_n which_o i_o may_v handle_v to_o this_o purpose_n and_o be_o force_v to_o omit_v for_o lack_v of_o time_n there_o be_v one_o whereof_o i_o promise_v in_o the_o last_o 81●_n chapter_n to_o say_v somewhat_o to_o wit_n his_o doctrine_n touch_v the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a supremacy_n which_o in_o very_a truth_n he_o abase_v disgrace_v and_o utter_o supplant_v while_o he_o seek_v or_o at_o least_o pretend_v to_o confirm_v and_o establish_v it_o as_o have_v partly_o appear_v already_o by_o his_o grant_n that_o our_o saviour_n make_v s._n peter_n head_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o take_v away_o all_o occasion_n of_o schism_n yea_o and_o that_o he_o give_v he_o as_o much_o authority_n as_o be_v necessary_a to_o that_o end_n whereupon_o i_o infer_v necessary_o that_o not_o only_a s._n peter_n but_o also_o his_o successor_n have_v all_o that_o power_n and_o authority_n which_o we_o attribute_v unto_o they_o as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o the_o three_o chapter_n sequent_a of_o this_o adjoinder_n and_o upon_o this_o it_o follow_v also_o
church_n presbytery_n subject_n to_o the_o church_n submit_v their_o sceptre_n to_o the_o church_n and_o throw_v down_o their_o crown_n before_o the_o church_n and_o that_o as_o beza_n testify_v they_o can_v be_v exempt_v from_o this_o divine_a domination_n of_o the_o presbytery_n whereupon_o i_o gather_v two_o thing_n the_o one_o that_o the_o supremacy_n which_o as_o m._n andrews_n say_v the_o puritan_n do_v acknowledge_v in_o the_o king_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v only_o in_o temporal_a matter_n wherein_o they_o do_v indeed_o admit_v he_o to_o be_v their_o supreme_a head_n and_o governor_n though_o as_o you_o see_v in_o m._n rogers_n they_o hold_v he_o in_o spiritual_a matter_n to_o be_v whole_o subject_a to_o the_o presbytery_n the_o other_o be_v that_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n be_v also_o of_o the_o same_o mind_n see_v that_o they_o profess_v the_o same_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a supremacy_n that_o the_o puritan_n do_v as_o m._n andrews_n himself_o confesseth●_n whereupon_o it_o also_o follow_v that_o the_o king_n majesty_n have_v no_o spiritual_a power_n or_o authority_n at_o all_o over_o the_o english_a church_n see_v that_o by_o m._n andrew_n his_o own_o confession_n he_o have_v no_o other_o power_n but_o that_o which_o the_o puritan_n and_o the_o reform_a church_n do_v admit_v in_o their_o temporal_a prince_n 66._o beside_o that_o albeit_o we_o shall_v grant_v that_o the_o puritan_n and_o reform_v church_n do_v allow_v the_o temporal_a magistrate_n to_o have_v some_o power_n and_o authority_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n yet_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o they_o do_v not_o allow_v they_o that_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n king_n which_o our_o parliament_n have_v grant_v to_o our_o king_n to_o wit_n that_o all_o the_o spiritual_a power_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v reside_v principal_o in_o they_o and_o be_v to_o be_v deduce_v from_o they_o to_o the_o church_n as_o from_o the_o head_n to_o the_o body_n &_o that_o they_o may_v give_v dispensation_n licence_n and_o faculty_n in_o matter_n of_o conscience_n make_v ecclesiastical_a law_n give_v commission_n to_o consecrate_v bishop_n to_o excommunicate_a interdict_v suspend_v censure_n to_o visit_v &_o correct_v all_o ecclesiastical_a person_n and_o to_o reform_v all_o heresye_n and_o abuse_n this_o i_o say_v be_v a_o mere_a spiritual_a power_n and_o exercise_v by_o our_o king_n in_o england_n according_a to_o the_o grant_n of_o the_o parliament_n be_v not_o admit_v and_o much_o less_o practise_v in_o any_o of_o the_o reform_a church_n spiritual_a as_o all_o those_o know_v who_o know_v any_o thing_n of_o their_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n 67._o therefore_o whereas_o m._n andrews_n say_v that_o aswell_o the_o reform_a church_n as_o the_o puritan_n do_v grant_v the_o self_n same_o authority_n to_o the_o temporal_a prince_n which_o our_o king_n have_v and_o exercise_v in_o england_n he_o show_v evident_o that_o in_o his_o opinion_n his_o majesty_n have_v no_o such_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n as_o have_v be_v grant_v he_o by_o our_o parliament_n for_o that_o as_o i_o have_v say_v the_o puritan_n &_o reform_a church_n who_o doctrine_n in_o this_o point_n he_o approve_v do_v not_o acknowledge_v any_o such_o spiritual_a authority_n in_o temporal_a prince_n but_o only_o a_o temporal_a power_n and_o obligation_n to_o maintain_v and_o defend_v the_o church_n so_o far_o forth_o as_o the_o same_o have_v need_n of_o external_a and_o humane_a help_n assistance_n or_o defence_n which_o be_v indeed_o the_o self_n same_o &_o all_o that_o m._n andrew_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v 47._o before_o allow_v to_o the_o king_n majesty_n when_o he_o say_v that_o he_o be_v no_o otherwise_o over_o the_o church_n but_o as_o a_o foster-father_n &_o a_o tutor_n to_o nourish_v and_o defend_v it_o and_o that_o the_o question_n of_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a supremacy_n concern_v 37._o only_o the_o external_a government_n of_o the_o church_n puritan_n so_o far_o forth_o as_o it_o require_v and_o admit_v humane_a help_n and_o authority_n so_o that_o you_o see_v m._n andrews_n be_v not_o in_o this_o point_n a_o english_a protestant_n but_o rather_o a_o flat_a puritan_n 68_o and_o if_o this_o be_v now_o the_o common_a opinion_n of_o the_o protestant_n in_o england_n as_o m._n andrew_n will_v have_v we_o to_o suppose_v we_o may_v more_o true_o say_v of_o they_o prince_n than_o he_o say_v of_o the_o puritan_n dies_fw-la diem_fw-la docuit_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la eo_fw-la facti_fw-la aequiores_fw-la recognoverunt_fw-la errorem_fw-la suum_fw-la time_n have_v teach_v they_o more_o wit_n and_o so_o now_o they_o have_v recant_v their_o error_n and_o no_o marvel_n see_v that_o their_o former_a doctrine_n be_v of_o itself_o so_o absurd_a &_o have_v be_v so_o canuass_v &_o batter_v by_o catholic_n that_o they_o be_v worthy_o ashamed_a of_o it_o especial_o such_o of_o they_o as_o have_v any_o learning_n or_o shame_n at_o all_o for_o some_o no_o doubt_n there_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n that_o will_v not_o stick_v to_o defend_v it_o or_o any_o thing_n else_o how_o absurd_a soever_o it_o be_v among_o who_o m._n barlow_n may_v go_v for_o one_o who_o in_o his_o preambler_n epistle_n to_o the_o minister_n of_o scotland_n which_o i_o have_v mention_v before_o upon_o another_o occasion_n be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o make_v the_o pagan_a 77._o and_o infidel_n emperor_n supreme_a head_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o s._n paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n judgement_n as_o the_o supreme_a whereas_o papist_n and_o puritan_n will_v have_v the_o king_n to_o be_v but_o a_o honourable_a member_n not_o a_o chief_a governor_n in_o the_o church_n of_o his_o dominion_n so_o he_o 69._o wherein_o two_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v note_v the_o one_o that_o he_o do_v ridiculous_o make_v the_o pagan_a emperor_n the_o chief_a member_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o head_n or_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n who_o nevertheless_o be_v idolatour_n can_v not_o be_v so_o much_o as_o the_o mean_a member_n thereof_o the_o other_o that_o he_o seem_v to_o make_v the_o king_n majesty_n no_o other_o wise_a chief_a governor_n in_o the_o church_n than_o they_o be_v albeit_o i_o think_v he_o will_v not_o be_v so_o absurd_a as_o to_o acknowledge_v any_o spiritual_a authority_n in_o they_o be_v see_v they_o be_v altogether_o uncapable_a thereof_o be_v as_o i_o have_v say_v idolatour_n enemy_n and_o violent_a persecutor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o faith_n of_o christ._n so_o as_o hereby_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o also_o concur_v with_o m._n andrews_n to_o deprive_v his_o majesty_n of_o all_o the_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n which_o the_o parliament_n have_v grant_v to_o our_o king_n and_o that_o consequent_o they_o be_v both_o of_o they_o in_o one_o predicament_n of_o disloyalty_n towards_o his_o majesty_n and_o defection_n from_o the_o wont_a protestantisme_n of_o england_n in_o the_o point_n of_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a supremacy_n 70._o now_o then_o to_o conclude_v concern_v they_o both_o &_o all_o the_o premise_n thou_o have_v see_v good_a reader_n how_o well_o these_o two_o prelate_n of_o the_o english_a church_n do_v symbolize_v &_o agree_v not_o only_o in_o seek_v to_o delude_v their_o reader_n with_o divers_a lie_n fraudulent_a shift_n and_o device_n but_o also_o in_o betray_v their_o own_o cause_n and_o fortify_v we_o which_o be_v so_o evident_a in_o they_o both_o that_o they_o may_v well_o be_v account_v the_o most_o harmless_a or_o rather_o the_o most_o propitious_a enemy_n that_o ever_o the_o catholic_n have_v and_o therefore_o may_v in_o some_o sort_n be_v compare_v to_o the_o scorpion_n which_o be_v a_o most_o venomous_a serpent_n why_o yield_v a_o sufficient_a remedy_n against_o his_o own_o poison_n and_o so_o do_v they_o for_o albeit_o they_o be_v replenish_v with_o venom_n and_o malignity_n yea_o and_o sting_v sometime_o most_o malicious_o not_o with_o solid_a argument_n but_o with_o spiteful_a gibe_n and_o contumelious_a jest_n yet_o their_o malice_n do_v common_o carry_v with_o it_o the_o remedy_n of_o itself_o be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n so_o manifest_a and_o accompany_v with_o such_o apparent_a falsehood_n and_o evident_a folly_n that_o no_o man_n of_o learning_n and_o consideration_n can_v receive_v any_o harm_n thereby_o but_o rather_o great_a benefit_n by_o the_o discovery_n of_o their_o imbecility_n &_o the_o weakness_n of_o their_o cause●_n see_v they_o can_v otherwise_o defend_v it_o then_o by_o such_o contumelious_a and_o malicious_a proceed_n 71._o insomuch_o that_o the_o learned_a stranger_n who_o read_v m._n andrew_n his_o book_n in_o latin_a bellarmine_n and_o do_v consider_v withal_o the_o special_a choice_n that_o the_o english_a clergy_n have_v make_v of_o he_o to_o maintain_v the_o combat_n against_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n in_o the_o eye_n and_o view_v of_o the_o christian_a world_n do_v
the_o cath._n church_n do_v at_o the_o relic_n of_o saint_n 443._o at_o valentia_n in_o spain_n ibid._n none_n wrought_v in_o the_o protestant_n church_n &_o why_o ibid._n monk_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n &_o their_o discipline_n .449_o their_o first_o institute_n approve_v by_o m._n andrews_n 448._o n_o name_n catholic_a belong_v only_o to_o the_o roman_a church_n 451._o s._n greg._n nazianz._n his_o approbation_n of_o prayer_n to_o saint_n pag._n 253._o to_o our_o b._n lady_n ibid._n s._n greg._n nissen_n his_o approbation_n of_o holy_a relic_n in_o the_o church_n 264._o of_o prayer_n to_o saint_n ibid._n his_o prayer_n to_o s._n theodor_n the_o martyr_n 267._o o_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n why_o it_o be_v unlawful_a 461._o origen_n his_o proof_n of_o s._n peter_n primacy_n 198._o p_o pastor_n their_o obligation_n of_o care_n of_o their_o church_n pag._n 76.78_o prayer_n to_o saint_n approve_v by_o s._n basil_n 218._o impugn_a by_o protestant_n 336.337_o conform_v to_o scripture_n &_o deduce_v from_o it_o 344._o power_n over_o the_o soul_n imply_v power_n over_o the_o body_n pag._n 126._o privilege_n grant_v to_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n pag._n 44.45.46_o abrogate_a by_o pope_n leo_n pa._n 47._o puritan_n their_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o king_n supremacy_n 419._o how_o some_o of_o they_o take_v the_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n 420._o s._n peter_n how_o he_o bear_v the_o person_n of_o the_o church_n when_o he_o receive_v the_o key_n pag._n 5._o his_o supremacy_n ground_v upon_o the_o word_n pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la pag._n 8._o acknowledge_v by_o s._n augustine_n pag._n 17._o by_o saint_n cyril_n ibid._n &_o by_o s._n hierome_n pag._n 119._o by_o origen_n 198._o by_o s._n hilary_n 199._o how_o he_o be_v call_v the_o light_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 103._o how_o he_o be_v reprehend_v by_o s._n paul_n pag._n 107._o how_o he_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 109._o prefer_v before_o s._n john_n &_o why_o pag._n 118_o how_o he_o may_v be_v call_v a_o monarch_n pag._n 134._o his_o fall_n no_o prejudice_n to_o his_o primacy_n pag._n 148._o q_o queen_n elizabeth_n her_o spiritual_a government_n give_v unto_o she_o by_o the_o parliament_n 476._o r_o reliqve_n of_o saint_n use_v in_o the_o church_n 284._o approve_a by_o s._n gregory_n nissen_n ibid._n m._n rogers_n against_o m._n andrews_n concern_v our_o english_a clergy_n 422_o 423._o roman_a church_n never_o fail_v in_o faith_n by_o god_n providence_n pag._n 124._o s_o saint_n pray_v unto_o in_o all_o age_n passim_fw-la how_o they_o hear_v our_o prayer_n and_o help_v we_o pag._n 288._o how_o they_o know_v our_o prayer_n and_o action_n 291.318.319_o practise_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n 334._o impugn_a by_o protestant_n out_o of_o scripture_n 336.337_o how_o they_o help_v we_o by_o the_o participation_n of_o christ_n power_n 347._o protector_n of_o city_n &_o country_n ibid._n schism_n whence_o it_o common_o arise_v pag._n 125._o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n 334.336_o sermon_n de_fw-la tempore_fw-la in_o latin_a and_o greek_a in_o s._n augustine_n time_n pag._n 146._o by_o s._n maximus_n bishop_n of_o turin_n 205._o siluerius_n the_o pope_n his_o usage_n by_o theodora_n and_o justinian_n pag._n 32.33_o defend_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o patera_n 24.35.36_o speech_n conditional_a do_v not_o always_o suppose_v a_o doubt_n in_o the_o speaker_n 261._o supremacy_n of_o s._n peter_n ground_v upon_o the_o word_n pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la pag._n 8._o prove_v by_o s._n chrisostome_n 142._o supremacy_n ecclesiastical_a of_o the_o king_n of_o england_n and_o m._n andrews_n conceit_n thereof_o .459_o exclude_v by_o a_o rule_n of_o m._n andrew_n 465._o t_o theodosius_fw-la the_o emperor_n invocate_v saint_n pag._n 286._o particular_o s._n john_n baptist._n ibid._n theodoretus_n restore_v to_o his_o bishopric_n by_o pope_n leo_n pag._n 59_o abuse_v by_o master_n andrew_n 307._o theodora_n the_o empress_n her_o practice_n against_o pope_n siluerius_n pag._n 31._o tyranny_n more_o frequent_a in_o small_a state_n then_o in_o great_a monarchy_n pag._n 130._o v_o vigilantius_n his_o heresy_n against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n pag._n 228._o resist_v by_o s._n hierome_n ibid._n 377.378.379_o m._n andrews_n his_o progenitor_n 377._o universal_a bishop_n the_o title_n give_v to_o the_o pope_n by_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n pag._n 68_o votive_a representation_n of_o hand_n foot_n eye_n etc._n etc._n hang_v up_o in_o church_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n 2●0_n w_n works●_n good_a work_n how_o the_o be_v say_v to_o save_v us._n 272._o writer_n of_o diverse_a part_n of_o scripture_n uncertain_a pag_n 250._o finis_fw-la the_o reason_n that_o move_v the_o author_n to_o add_v this_o adjoinder_n to_o the_o former_a suplement_n the_o author_n intention_n in_o this_o adjoinder_n what_o question_n be_v special_o handle_v in_o this_o adjoinder_n supplement_n chap._n 1._o nu_fw-la 58.59_o &_o seq_n d._n andr._n respon_n ad_fw-la apolog._n ca._n 1._o pag._n 16._o aug._n de_fw-fr agon_n christ._n c._n 30._o ambros._n de_fw-fr sacerd_v dignitate_fw-la cap._n 20._o s._n augustine_n lame_o and_o fraudulent_o allege_v by_o m._n andrews_n august_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la cic._n offic_n l._n 1._o how_o s._n peter_n do_v bear_v the_o person_n of_o the_o church_n when_o he_o receive_v the_o key_n s._n augustine_n meaning_n declare_v out_o of_o his_o own_o doctrine_n tract_n ult._n in_o joan._n idem_fw-la in_o ps._n 108._o idem_fw-la ser._n 13._o de_fw-fr verb._n dom._n m._n andrew_n fraud_n against_o the_o intention_n of_o s._n augustine_n s._n ambr._n de_fw-fr sacerd._n dignit_fw-la c_o 1._o the_o meaning_n of_o s._n ambrose_n declare_v andr._n ca._n 3._o pag._n 74._o §_o verum_fw-la ambr._n in_o 2._o cor._n 12._o idem_fw-la lib._n 10._o comment_n in_o cap._n 24._o euang_n luc._n s._n ambrose_n prove_v s._n peter_n supremacy_n out_o of_o the_o word_n pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la three_o thing_n teach_v by_o s._n ambrose_n d._n andrews_n can_v help_v the_o dice_n when_o he_o be_v put_v to_o his_o shift_n a_o vain_a brag_v of_o d._n andrews_n andr._n cap._n 8._o pag._n 214._o &_o 215._o the_o second_o argument_n &_o answer_n of_o m._n andrews_n which_o he_o take_v to_o be_v so_o sharp_a that_o it_o will_v prick_v the_o cardinal_n andr._n c._n 1._o pag._n 16._o §._o verun_v vim_o videamꝰ_n see_v suppl_n chap._n 1._o n._n 18.19_o &_o sequ_o num._n c._n 8._o num._n 1._o deut._n 10._o &_o 18._o supplem_n c._n 1._o n._n 22.23_o &_o 24._o suppl_n cap._n 1._o ubi_fw-la supr_n in_o what_o case_n christian_n may_v ground_v upon_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n m._n andrews_n his_o beggarly_a proof_n for_o a_o temporal_a prince_n spiritual_a supremacy_n see_v infra_fw-la cap._n 6._o m._n andrews_n proof_n of_o the_o temporal_a prince_n supremacy_n savour_v of_o judaism_n 2._o reg._n 5._o d._n andrews_n do_v equivocate_v egregious_o andr._n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la d._n andrews_n argue_v impertinent_o isa._n 44._o num._n 27._o d._n andrews_n confound_v by_o a_o instance_n of_o his_o own_o theodor._n quast_o 48._o in_o num._n see_v suppl_n nu_fw-la 21._o num._n 27._o m._n andrews_n prick_v argument_n do_v wind_v none_o but_o himself_o the_o three_o answer_n of_o d._n andrews_n examine_v andr._n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 17._o lin_v 4._o 4._o see_v after_o c._n 3._o n._n 36.37_o &_o seq_n seq_n cap._n 5._o n._n 18.19.20_o 18.19.20_o supplement_n cap._n 1._o nu_fw-la 59_o &_o sequent_a if_o the_o pope_n primacy_n be_v a_o temporal_a primacy_n m._n andrews_n be_v a_o pecuniary_a pastor_n s._n augustine_n acknowledge_v s._n peter_n supremacy_n in_o the_o place_n allege_v by_o m._n andrews_n s._n august_n tract_n 124._o in_o euang._n joan._n idem_fw-la in_o psal_n 108._o s._n cyril_n comment_n in_o cap._n ult._n joan._n s._n cyril_n also_o acknowledge_v s._n peter_n supremacy_n in_o the_o place_n which_o m._n andrews_n allege_v andr._n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la m._n andrews_n make_v s._n augustin_n &_o s._n cyril_n favour_n a_o pernicious_a heresy_n s._n augustine_n belie_v by_o d._n andrews_n aug._n ep._n 50._o s._n cyril_n notable_o abuse_v by_o m._n andrews_n cyril_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la andr._n pag_n 215._o §._o no●_n vero_fw-la m._n andrews_n worthy_o suspect_v to_o hold_v that_o magistrate_n fall_v from_o their_o dignity_n by_o mortal_a sin_n s._n cyril_n hierosol_n cathech_n mystag_n 2._o optat._n l._n 7._o de_fw-la schismate_fw-la donatistarun●_n the_o place_n of_o 3._o father_n allege_a by_o m._n andrews_n do_v confute_v he_o s._n chrysostome_n for_o s._n peter_n supremacy_n chrysost._n de_fw-fr sacerd._n l._n 2._o ibidem_fw-la ibid._n s._n leo._n ep_n 89._o idem_fw-la ser._n 3._o the_o assumpt_n sua_fw-la ad_fw-la pontif._n supplem_n cap._n 5._o nu_fw-la 25.26_o &_o 27._o euseb._n emis_fw-la ho._n de_fw-fr nativit_fw-la joan._n euan._n theophil_n in_o cap._n ult._n joan._n s._n ber._n l._n 2._o the_o consider_v psal._n 1.19_o psal._n 63._o m._n andrews_n his_o
sharp_a arrow_n do_v prove_v but_o shuttlecock_n or_o fool_n bolt_v eccl._n 19_o prou._n 16._o concern_v a_o law_n in_o the_o code_n of_o justinian_n supplem_n chap._n 1._o nu_fw-la 99_o apol._n car._n bellar._n c._n 3._o pag._n 17._o andr._n resp._n ad_fw-la apolog._n cap._n 3._o pag._n 81._o the_o law_n inter_fw-la claras_fw-la prove_v to_o be_v a_o most_o true_a &_o clear_a law_n though_o m._n andrews_n hold_v it_o for_o obscure_a and_o counterfeit_a the_o testimony_n of_o baldus_n see_v the_o code_n l._n 1._o tit_n de_fw-fr sum_n trin._n accurfius_fw-la the_o testimony_n of_o alciat_n alciat_n l._n 4._o parergon_fw-la cap._n 25._o pope_n nicolas_n the_o first_o cite_v this_o law_n above_o 800._o year_n ago_o nicol._n ep_n ad_fw-la michael_n imperat._n the_o same_o confirm_v out_o of_o liberatus_n who_o live_v in_o justinians_n day_n liberat._v in_o breviar_n c._n 20._o tom._n 2._o council_n ep_n justin._n ad_fw-la agapetum_fw-la vide_fw-la binnium_n ibidem_fw-la ep_n 2._o joan._n 2._o ad_fw-la senatores_fw-la l._n 6._o tit._n the_o sum_n trinit_fw-la trinit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d see_v the_o code_n ub●_n supra_fw-la a_o clear_a testimony_n of_o the_o universal_a authority_n &_o perpetual_a integrity_n of_o the_o roman_a sea_n esa._n 5._o two_o fact_n of_o justinian_n the_o emp._n against_o 2._o pope_n examine_v &_o reprove_v liberat._v in_o breviar_n c._n 22._o andr._n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag_n 81._o §._o ut_fw-la nobis_fw-la a_o most_o absurd_a argument_n of_o m._n andrews_n matth._n 23._o anast._n in_o agapeto_n hist._n miscel_n &_o paul_n diac._n l._n 16._o liberat._v in_o breviar_n c._n 22._o platina_n blond_n dec_fw-la ●_o lib._n 3._o niceph._n l._n 17._o cap._n 18._o naucler_n gener._n 18._o anno_fw-la 510._o the_o wicked_a practice_n of_o the_o heretical_a empress_n theodora_n against_o pope_n syluerius_n liberat._n i●_n breu._n c._n 22._o paul_n diacon_n in_o jus●iniano_n amoyn_v de_fw-fr reb_fw-mi gest_n franc._n l._n 2._o cap._n 2._o marian._n scotus_n &_o platina_n in_o vigilio_n blond_n dec_fw-la ●_o l._n 6._o petrus_n de_fw-fr natal_n l._n 6._o c._n 12._o s._n greg._n l._n 2._o ep_n 36._o baron_fw-fr a_o 547._o pag._n 357._o idem_fw-la an._n 538._o &_o liberat_fw-la in_o breniar_n c._n 24._o 24._o suplem_n cap._n 1._o nu_fw-la 108._o justinian_n the_o emperor_n be_v so_o ignorant_a that_o he_o can_v neither_o write_v nor_o read_v and_o therefore_o easy_o deceive_v by_o subtle_a heretic_n suydas_n in_o justiniano_n euagr._fw-la l._n 4._o cap._n 40._o idem_fw-la lib._n 5._o cap._n 1._o the_o judgement_n of_o euagri_n concern_v justinian_o death_n and_o the_o state_n of_o his_o soul_n soul_n see_v supplem_n cap._n 1_o nu_fw-la 90._o &_o seq_n anastas_n in_o agapeto_o blond_n dec_fw-la 1._o l._n 3._o naucler_fw-mi gen._n 18._o a_o 510._o anastas●_n in_o aga●eto_n naucle_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la novel_a 42._o the_o two_o fact_n of_o justiniana_n against_o two_o pope_n overwayd_v with_o ma●ny_n other_o of_o his_o own_o in_o honour_n &_o favour_n of_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a the_o importance_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o patera_n his_o reprehension_n of_o justinians_n fact_n against_o pope_n syluerius_n liberat._v in_o breviary_n ca._n 22._o the_o bishop_n of_o patera_n protest_v god_n judgement_n against_o justinian_n idem●_n ibid._n see_v card._n apol._n pag._n 27._o m._n andrews_n discover_v a_o heretical_a spirit_n in_o his_o judgement_n of_o justinians_n fact_n liberat._n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la justinian_n revoke_v his_o sentence_n against_o pope_n siluerius_n upon_o the_o reprehensi●_n give_v he_o by_o the_o bishop_n of_o patera_n idem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la m._n andrews_n hi●_n folly_n in_o approve_v a_o act_n which_o the_o author_n of_o it_o do_v after_o disallow_v and_o repent_v the_o bad_a conscience_n of_o m._n andrews_n in_o dissemble_v the_o truth_n which_o he_o can_v not_o but_o see_v in_o liberatus_n a_o weak_a &_o foolish_a argument_n of_o m._n andrews_n to_o prove_v justinian_n superior_a 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what_o manner_n of_o equality_n the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n shall_v have_v with_o the_o roman_a church_n sozom._n hist._n l._n 3._o cap._n 7._o what_o pre-eminence_n the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n seek_v to_o have_v in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n see_v paral._n torti_n ac_fw-la tort._n cap._n 4._o p._n 157._o edit_n colon_n 1611._o how_o equality_n be_v understand_v sometime_o in_o the_o scripture_n 2._o cor._n 8._o exod._n 18._o see_v s._n tho._n in_o ep_n 2._o ad_fw-la cor._n cap._n 8._o item_n joan._n gagnaeus_n in_o hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la two_o kind_n of_o equality_n correspond_v to_o two_o kind_n of_o justice._n aristot._fw-la ethic._n 5._o s._n thom._n 2.2_o q._n 16._o the_o canon_n which_o grant_v the_o privilege_n to_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n abrogate_a by_o pope_n leo._n four_o thing_n to_o be_v note_v in_o a_o epistle_n of_o pope_n gelasius_n for_o the_o invalidity_n of_o the_o canon_n the_o east_n church_n acknowledge_v to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o sea_n of_o rome_n ep._n orient_a episcop_n ad_fw-la symmachun_n to._n 2._o council_n exemplar_n libelli_fw-la joan._n ep._n constantin_n to._n 2._o council_n vide_fw-la etiam_fw-la ep._n justini_n imperat._n ad_fw-la hormisdam_fw-la ●_o p._n to._n 20._o council_n the_o primacy_n of_o the_o roman_a sea_n acknowledge_v by_o the_o greek_a church_n to_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o express_a word_n of_o christ._n libe●at_fw-la in_o breu●ario_n c._n 22._o nicephor_n li._n 17._o c._n 9_o anastas_n in_o agapeto_o paul_n diacon_n l._n 16._o nicepho_n li._n 17._o c._n 26._o vide_fw-la etiam_fw-la constit._fw-la vigilij_fw-la apud_fw-la binium_fw-la to_o 2._o council_n p._n 5●2_n baron_fw-fr an._n 551.552_o &_o 553._o ep._n eutychij_fw-la ad_fw-la vigilium_fw-la to._n 2._o council_n in_o council_n 5._o generali_fw-la collat_n 2._o ●p_n 8._o pelag_n to._n 2._o council_n s._n greg._n lib._n 7●_n ●p_n 65●_n idem_fw-la ibid._n ep_n 64._o many_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n depose_v by_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n ep._n nicolai_n 1._o ad_fw-la michael_n imperat_fw-la to._n 4._o council_n in_o 8._o synodo_fw-la gener_fw-la in_o appendice_n ex_fw-la act._n 6._o s._n antonin_n tit._n ●9_n cap._n 1._o §._o 6._o naucler_n gener_fw-la 41._o blood_n lib._n 6._o dec_fw-la 2._o in_o fine_a platina_n in_o vita_fw-la innocen_n 3._o to._n 3._o council_n in_o concilio_n lateran_n see_v suplem_n cap._n 2._o n●_n 1._o &_o 2._o s._n antoninus_n tit._n 22._o cap._n 13._o §._o 1.2_o &_o seq_n item_n council_n florentin_n sess_v ult._n see_v suplem_n cap._n 1._o nu_fw-la 114._o &_o 115._o the_o just_a judgement_n of_o god_n upon_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n matth._n 16._o eccli_n 5._o valer._n maxim_n l._n 1._o cap._n 1._o andr._n cap._n 7._o p._n 170._o bad_a deal_n of_o m._n andrews_n andrews_n p._n 177._o &_o p._n 35._o §._o de_fw-fr inuocatione_n &_o p._n 45._o §●_n locus_n liberat._v in_o breviar_n cap_n 13._o ep._n leo._n 53.54.55.59.70.71_o how_o the_o canon_n for_o the_o b._n of_o constantinoples_n priviledg_n be_v make_v council_n calce_v act_n 16._o 16._o concern_v the_o invalidity_n of_o this_o canon_n see_v baron_n to._n 4._o pag._n 4●3_n a_o 381._o edit_n romae_fw-la a_o 1593._o relat._n synodi_fw-la ad_fw-la leo._n in_o fine_a council_n leo._n ep_n 61._o ad_fw-la episcop_n in_o synodo_n chal._n congreg_n item_n ep_n 55.70_o &_o 71._o 71._o see_v more_o concern_v this_o canon_n in_o binius_fw-la to._n 1._o council_n pag._n 517._o edit_n coloniae_fw-la a_o 1606._o leo_fw-la ep_n 53._o ad_fw-la anatolium_n idem_fw-la ep_n 55._o ad_fw-la pulcher._n council_n nicen._n can._n 6._o 6._o see_v after_o in_o the_o end_n of_o this_o chapter_n what_o manner_n of_o intercession_n pope_n leo_n make_v to_o martian_a the_o emperor_n against_o anatolius_n leo._n ep_n 54._o ad_fw-la martian_a relatio_fw-la synod_n chalced._n ad_fw-la martian_a in_o fine_a council_n leo._n ep_n 59_o ad_fw-la martian_a leo_fw-la ep_n 55._o ad_fw-la pulcheriam_fw-la what_o intercession_n pope_n leo_n make_v to_o anatolius_n leo._n ep_n 53._o ad_fw-la anatol._n apoc._n 3_o what_o
the_o benefit_n of_o soul_n the_o public_a good_a of_o the_o church_n and_o god_n glory_n whereof_o i_o have_v give_v sufficient_a reason_n in_o the_o first_o chapter_n of_o my_o sequent_a supplement_n 21._o therefore_o i_o will_v only_o say_v for_o the_o present_a that_o if_o the_o pope_n spiritual_a primacy_n may_v for_o this_o cause_n be_v call_v a_o temporal_a primacy_n pastor_n then_o may_v m._n andrews_n who_o take_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o bishop_n and_o a_o spiritual_a pastor_n be_v just_o call_v and_o nickname_v a_o corporal_a bishop_n and_o a_o pecuniary_a pastor_n because_o he_o do_v punish_v man_n sometime_o in_o his_o spiritual_a court_n not_o only_o in_o their_o body_n but_o also_o in_o their_o purse_n and_o if_o he_o will_v think_v he_o absurd_a who_o shall_v so_o style_v and_o intytle_n he_o he_o be_v no_o less_o absurd_a himself_o in_o call_v the_o pope_n primacy_n for_o the_o like_a reason_n a_o temporal_a primacy_n and_o although_o neither_o s._n augustine_n nor_o s._n cyril_n do_v in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o m._n andrews_n speak_v of_o any_o such_o extension_n of_o spiritual_a power_n to_o temporal_a matter_n whereof_o they_o have_v no_o occasion_n to_o treat_v yet_o it_o suffice_v that_o they_o do_v not_o deny_v it_o yea_o and_o that_o they_o do_v both_o of_o they_o sufficient_o teach_v there_o the_o spiritual_a primacy_n of_o s._n peter_n whereof_o the_o other_o be_v a_o necessary_a consequent_a 22._o s._n augustine_n in_o that_o very_a treatise_n whereto_o m._n andrews_n appeal_v i_o mean_v upon_o the_o gospel_n of_o s._n john_n and_o the_o last_o chapter_n have_v that_o express_a doctrine_n and_o those_o very_a word_n which_o i_o cite_v a_o little_a before_o andrews_n concern_v the_o person_n and_o figure_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n represent_v in_o s._n peter_n propter_fw-la apostolatus_fw-la svi_fw-la primatum_fw-la by_o reason_n of_o the_o primacy_n of_o his_o apostleship_n or_o as_o he_o say_v else_o where_o propter_fw-la primatum_fw-la quem_fw-la in_o discipulis_fw-la habuit_fw-la for_o the_o primacy_n which_o he_o have_v among_o the_o disciple_n for_o which_o cause_n he_o call_v he_o also_o twice_o in_o the_o same_o place_n primum_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la the_o chief_a apostle_n and_o say_v that_o the_o church_n receive_v the_o key_n in_o he_o which_o as_o i_o have_v show_v do_v evident_o prove_v he_o to_o be_v head_n and_o supreme_a pastor_n of_o the_o church_n 108._o whereof_o only_o he_o and_o no_o other_o of_o the_o apostle_n be_v say_v to_o represent_v the_o person_n and_o figure_n so_o that_o s._n augustine_n sufficient_o acknowledge_v s._n peter_n spiritual_a supremacy_n in_o the_o place_n allege_v by_o m._n andrew_n 23._o the_o like_a do_v s._n cyril_n also_o in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o s._n johns_n gospel_n joan._n and_o in_o the_o same_o place_n which_o m._n andrew_n cite_v for_o there_o he_o call_v s._n peter_n express_o prince_n and_o head_n of_o the_o apostle_n say_v ut_fw-la princeps_fw-la caputque_fw-la ceterorum_fw-la primus_fw-la exclamavit_fw-la tu_fw-la es_fw-la christus_fw-la filius_fw-la dei_fw-la vivi_fw-la allege_v peter_n as_o prince_n and_o head_n of_o the_o rest_n first_o exclaym_v thou_o be_v christ_n the_o son_n of_o the_o live_a god_n so_o he_o whereby_o he_o teach_v evident_o that_o s._n peter_n be_v head_n and_o supreme_a pastor_n of_o the_o church_n in_o that_o he_o acknowledge_v he_o to_o be_v prince_n and_o head_n of_o the_o apostle_n who_o be_v the_o chief_a magistrate_n and_o pastor_n thereof_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v how_o this_o agree_v with_o that_o which_o follow_v present_o after_o in_o m._n andrews_n his_o text_n who_o have_v affirm_v as_o you_o have_v hear_v that_o neither_o of_o these_o father_n see_v the_o article_n touch_v peter_n temporal_a primacy_n supra_fw-la add_v id_fw-la tantum_fw-la vident_fw-la nec_fw-la praeterea_fw-la quid_fw-la quia_fw-la etc._n etc._n they_o see_v this_o only_a and_o nothing_o else_o that_o because_o peter_n have_v deny_v his_o lord_n not_o once_o but_o thrice_o he_o be_v ask_v concern_v love_n not_o once_o but_o thrice_o and_o so_o when_o he_o have_v abolish_v his_o triple_a negation_n with_o his_o triple_a confession_n he_o be_v restore_v to_o the_o place_n or_o degree_n of_o apostleship_n from_o the_o which_o he_o be_v fall_v for_o touch_v the_o primacy_n they_o be_v altogether_o silent_a thus_o say_v m._n andrews_n 24._o wherein_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o whereas_o he_o say_v that_o these_o father_n see_v only_o this_o which_o he_o here_o set_v down_o nec_fw-la praeterea_fw-la quid_fw-la and_o nothing_o else_o it_o be_v evident_o false_a for_o two_o respect_n the_o one_o for_o that_o they_o see_v more_o than_o he_o mention_v yea_o more_o than_o he_o list_v to_o see_v to_o wit_n the_o primacy_n of_o s._n peter_n as_o i_o have_v show_v out_o of_o they_o both_o the_o other_o be_v because_o they_o see_v not_o that_o which_o he_o affirm_v 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saviour_n renew_v
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depress_v and_o punish_v the_o pride_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n who_o have_v so_o oft_o malicious_o impugn_a the_o same_o which_o may_v serve_v for_o a_o caveat_n to_o other_o rebellious_a child_n of_o the_o church_n for_o 5._o although_o almighty_a god_n be_v patience_n redditor_fw-la a_o slow_a paymaster_n yet_o he_o pay_v home_o in_o the_o end_n and_o as_o valerius_n say_v 1._o tarditatem_fw-la supplicij_fw-la gravitate_fw-la compensat_fw-la he_o recompense_v the_o slowness_n of_o his_o punishment_n with_o the_o weyght_n or_o grievousnes_n thereof_o this_o i_o have_v think_v good_a to_o touch_v here_o by_o the_o way_n upon_o so_o good_a a_o occasion_n &_o will_v now_o conclude_v concern_v m._n andrew_n his_o canon_n allege_v out_o of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n 24._o therefore_o i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o all_o this_o discourse_n that_o the_o say_a canon_n be_v never_o able_a to_o equal_v the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n with_o the_o roman_a sea_n to_o which_o end_n m._n andrews_n say_v it_o be_v enact_v he_o must_v needs_o coufesse_v that_o either_o there_o be_v no_o such_o canon_n at_o all_o to_o the_o purpose_n that_o he_o mention_v or_o else_o that_o the_o small_a force_n and_o authority_n thereof_o may_v serve_v for_o a_o evident_a argument_n of_o the_o supreme_a power_n and_o authority_n of_o pope_n leo_n and_o his_o successor_n see_v that_o their_o only_a resistance_n and_o contradiction_n suffice_v to_o overthrow_v it_o notwithstanding_o the_o great_a authority_n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n which_o ordain_v it_o 170._o whereby_o it_o also_o appear_v how_o vain_o and_o untrue_o he_o say_v that_o pope_n leo_n contradict_v it_o in_o vain_a yea_o and_o which_o be_v more_o absurd_a that_o he_o make_v suit_n andrews_n and_o intercession_n in_o vain_a frustra_fw-la say_v he_o romano_n ipso_fw-la pontifice_fw-la apud_fw-la augustum_fw-la augustam_fw-la &_o anatolium_n per_fw-la litteras_fw-la svas_fw-la intercedente_fw-la the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n himself_o make_v intercession_n or_o sue_v in_o vain_a by_o his_o letter_n to_o the_o emperor_n the_o empress_n and_o anatolius_n so_o that_o you_o see_v he_o make_v pope_n leo_n case_n very_o desperate_a and_o his_o authority_n very_o feeble_a see_v that_o he_o be_v fain_o to_o make_v such_o intercession_n and_o suit_n not_o only_o to_o the_o emperor_n and_o empress_n but_o also_o to_o anatolius_n himself_o 25._o therefore_o albeit_o i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a that_o intercedere_fw-la have_v divers_a sense_n and_o among_o the_o rest_n signify_v to_o withstand_v prohibit_v or_o hinder_v a_o thing_n propose_v or_o intend_v and_o that_o some_o perhaps_o may_v say_v that_o m._n andrews_n use_v it_o here_o in_o that_o sense_n yet_o because_o it_o signify_v also_o to_o make_v intercession_n and_o suit_n and_o be_v so_o use_v common_o in_o ecclesiastical_a author_n and_o will_v be_v so_o understand_v in_o this_o place_n by_o every_o common_a reader_n yea_o and_o for_o that_o m._n andrew_n himself_o so_o take_v and_o use_v it_o diverse_a locus_n time_n and_o will_v be_v loath_a no_o doubt_n to_o have_v man_n think_v that_o pope_n leo_n do_v or_o dare_v oppose_v himself_o to_o the_o emperor_n &_o empress_n but_o rather_o that_o in_o this_o case_n he_o behave_v himself_o towards_o they_o and_o anatolius_n as_o a_o humble_a suppliant_a and_o yet_o all_o in_o vain_a therefore_o i_o say_v i_o can_v let_v this_o point_n pass_v unexamined_a to_o the_o end_n thou_o may_v see_v 53.54.55.59.70.71_o good_a reader_n as_o well_o m._n andrew_n his_o vanity_n as_o also_o what_o kind_n of_o suit_n &_o intercession_n pope_n leo_n make_v unto_o these_o who_o he_o name_v &_o what_o effect_n &_o success_n it_o have_v with_o they_o but_o first_o i_o think_v it_o not_o amiss_o to_o declare_v here_o how_o this_o canon_n be_v make_v in_o that_o council_n and_o why_o it_o be_v contradict_v by_o the_o legate_n of_o pope_n leo_n make_v &_o afterward_o disannul_v by_o leo_n himself_o 26._o therefore_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v that_o anatolius_n then_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n ambitious_o thirst_v after_o his_o own_o promotion_n namely_o to_o be_v prefer_v before_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n and_o antioch_n and_o consider_v that_o dioscorus_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n be_v depose_v by_o the_o council_n for_o heresy_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o antioch_n much_o disgrace_v for_o have_v adhere_v to_o dioscorus_n think_v that_o a_o good_a opportunity_n be_v offer_v he_o to_o accomplish_v his_o desire_n and_o thereupon_o practise_v with_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o council_n for_o the_o furtherance_n of_o his_o pretence_n and_o have_v gain_v so_o many_o of_o they_o that_o it_o seem_v to_o he_o their_o very_a number_n and_o authority_n may_v extort_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o rest_n yea_o of_o the_o pope_n legate_n themselves_o procure_v that_o when_o the_o last_o session_n of_o the_o council_n be_v end_v and_o as_o well_o the_o judge_n or_o senate_n as_o the_o legate_n be_v depart_v all_o the_o bishop_n of_o his_o faction_n either_o remain_v behind_o or_o else_o after_o their_o departure_n return_v again_o to_o the_o place_n of_o the_o assembly_n and_o there_o make_v the_o canon_n whereof_o we_o now_o treat_v whereupon_o the_o legate_n have_v notice_n of_o it_o 16._o cause_v the_o whole_a council_n to_o be_v assemble_v again_o the_o next_o day_n and_o find_v anatolius_n and_o his_o faction_n who_o be_v the_o far_o great_a part_n of_o the_o council_n resolute_a in_o their_o determination_n protest_v their_o own_o opposition_n &_o contradiction_n to_o the_o canon_n as_o well_o in_o respect_n that_o it_o be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a as_o also_o for_o that_o the_o other_o 1593._o canon_n which_o be_v pretend_v to_o be_v make_v in_o the_o council_n of_o constantinople_n to_o the_o same_o effect_n be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v among_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o say_a council_n send_v to_o rome_n neither_o have_v be_v ever_o put_v in_o practice_n by_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n 27._o final_o they_o reserve_v the_o determination_n of_o the_o matter_n to_o pope_n leo_n himself_o who_o they_o call_v apostolicum_fw-la virum_fw-la vniversalis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la papam_fw-la the_o apostolical_a man_n and_o pope_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n ut_fw-la ipse_fw-la say_v they_o aut_fw-la de_fw-la suae_fw-la sedis_fw-la iniuria_fw-la aut_fw-la de_fw-la canonum_fw-la eversione_n possit_fw-la far_o sententiam_fw-la that_o he_o may_v give_v sentence_n either_o of_o the_o injury_n do_v to_o his_o sea_n by_o the_o abuse_n of_o his_o legate_n or_o of_o the_o breach_n of_o the_o canon_n council_n thus_o say_v the_o legate_n signify_v that_o it_o be_v in_o his_o hand_n and_o power_n to_o ratify_v or_o abrogate_v as_o well_o this_o canon_n as_o all_o the_o other_o canon_n of_o that_o council_n 71._o which_o also_o the_o whole_a council_n acknowledge_v sufficient_o in_o a_o common_a letter_n write_v to_o he_o wherein_o they_o crave_v of_o he_o the_o ratification_n of_o this_o canon_n most_o humble_o and_o instant_o as_o it_o will_v appear_v hereafter_o which_o nevertheless_o he_o flat_o deny_v confirm_v only_o the_o condemnation_n and_o deposition_n of_o dioscorus_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o decree_n concern_v matter_n of_o faith_n for_o the_o which_o only_o he_o say_v the_o council_n be_v assemble_v and_o in_o fine_a he_o disannul_v the_o canon_n for_o diverse_a cause_n specify_v in_o his_o epistle_n first_o because_o it_o have_v no_o other_o ground_n but_o the_o ambitious_a humour_n of_o anatolius_n who_o inordinate_o seek_v thereby_o to_o have_v the_o precedence_n before_o the_o patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n and_o antioch_n second_o because_o it_o be_v not_o procure_v or_o make_v canonical_o but_o by_o practice_n and_o surreption_n in_o the_o absence_n of_o his_o legats●_n three_o for_o that_o the_o other_o 1606._o canon_n 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