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A86484 A rejoynder to Master Samuel Eaton and Master Timothy Taylor's reply. Or, an answer to their late book called A defence of sundry positions and scriptures, &c. With some occasionall animadversions on the book called the Congregational way justified. For the satisfaction of all that seek the truth in love, especially for his dearly beloved and longed for, the inhabitants in and neer to Manchester in Lancashire. / Made and published by Richard Hollinworth. Mancuniens. Hollingworth, Richard, 1607-1656. 1647 (1647) Wing H2496; Thomason E391_1; ESTC R201545 213,867 259

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then_o confident_o carp_v at_o the_o expression_n as_o imply_v a_o contradiction_n but_o now_o the_o case_n be_v alter_v yourselves_o do_v use_v it_o 4._o this_o implicit_a covenant_n or_o consent_v employ_v in_o action_n be_v in_o our_o congregation_n for_o among_o we_o christian_n that_o dwell_v in_o a_o vicinity_n or_o neighbourhood_n as_o have_v be_v show_v chap._n 2._o that_o they_o ought_v be_v one_o congregation_n they_o choose_v or_o submit_v unto_o and_o maintain_v the_o same_o individual_a officer_n as_o john_n thomas_n frequent_a the_o same_o numerical_a meeting_n place_n sacrament_n and_o other_o ordinance_n and_o so_o be_v distinguish_v from_o other_o congregation_n of_o christian_n dwell_v in_o other_o vicinitye_n submit_v to_o and_o maintain_v other_o officer_n as_o
andrew_n thomas_n etc._n etc._n paul_n and_o barnabas_n assemble_v a_o whole_a year_n with_o the_o church_n at_o antioch_n though_o they_o do_v not_o covenant_v themselves_o into_o it_o be_v say_v to_o be_v within_o that_o church_n act_v 11.26_o cum_fw-la cap._n 13.1_o and_o therefore_o if_o implicit_a covenant_n agreement_n or_o combination_n do_v make_v a_o true_a church_n we_o be_v not_o deficient_a therein_o 5._o as_o for_o that_o of_o the_o sichemite_n be_v one_o people_n that_o be_v to_o say_v one_o church_n or_o one_o people_n to_o god_n as_o elsewhere_o you_o phrase_v it_o i_o conceive_v that_o simeon_n and_o levi_n do_v not_o pretend_v they_o to_o be_v one_o church_n neither_o will_v this_o have_v be_v a_o acceptable_a motion_n to_o a_o heathenish_a idolatrous_a people_n nor_o will_v circumcision_n alone_o have_v effect_v it_o edomite_n and_o other_o be_v circumcise_a and_o yet_o be_v not_o of_o the_o jewish_a church_n except_o they_o have_v renounce_v their_o idol_n and_o become_v proselyte_n 2._o i_o conceive_v the_o poor_a sichemite_n have_v no_o thought_n of_o alter_v their_o religion_n for_o a_o wife_n nor_o will_v the_o man_n of_o the_o city_n in_o all_o probability_n have_v so_o unanimous_o consent_v to_o it_o they_o may_v look_v upon_o circumcision_n as_o a_o national_a rite_n and_o by_o be_v one_o people_n they_o do_v interpret_v themselves_o to_o mean_v of_o a_o civil_a union_n viz._n dwelling_n trade_a marry_v one_o with_o another_o enjoy_v the_o cattle_n and_o substance_n one_o of_o another_o gen._n 34.21_o of_o any_o overture_n or_o pretence_n of_o simeon_n and_o levi_n or_o any_o desire_n or_o hope_v that_o the_o sichem_n tes_fw-fr have_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v one_o church_n one_o people_n to_o god_n partaker_n of_o the_o same_o sacrifice_n and_o ceremony_n there_o be_v no_o mention_n i_o conceive_v therefore_o it_o be_v but_o your_o gloss_n what_o covenant_n be_v involue_v in_o circumcision_n we_o shall_v show_v hereafter_o sect._n 2._o reply_n p._n 38._o relation_n and_o combination_n to_o domestic_a end_n and_o purpose_n be_v the_o form_n of_o a_o family_n unto_o politic_a and_o civil_a end_n be_v the_o form_n of_o a_o commonwealth_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o relation_n and_o combination_n of_o so_o many_o saint_n as_o may_v well_o meet_v in_o one_o place_n unto_o the_o enjoyment_n of_o church-ordinance_n do_v make_v a_o church_n rejoin_v 1._o do_v you_o not_o mean_v that_o this_o agreement_n or_o covenant_n be_v only_o of_o they_o that_o be_v svi_fw-la juris_fw-la must_v every_o member_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n as_o mean_a man_n servant_n woman_n child_n per_fw-la se_fw-la at_o least_o implicit_o consent_n to_o their_o relation_n or_o combination_n in_o the_o commonwealth_n and_o every_o particular_a member_n of_o a_o city_n and_o family_n also_o or_o he_o else_o be_v not_o to_o be_v judge_v one_o in_o that_o commonwealth_n city_n or_o family_n and_o do_v you_o hold_v the_o same_o of_o church-relation_n 2._o do_v you_o mean_v that_o this_o covenant_n be_v not_o only_o between_o inferior_n and_o superior_n but_o between_o equal_n viz._n that_o all_o the_o subject_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n must_v agree_v together_o to_o be_v one_o all_o the_o child_n and_o servant_n in_o a_o family_n shall_v agree_v to_o be_v one_o all_o the_o wife_n of_o david_n and_o all_o the_o wife_n of_o solomon_n do_v agree_v to_o be_v one_o and_o not_o only_o that_o there_o be_v a_o agrrement_n between_o magistrate_n and_o subject_n master_n and_o servant_n as_o we_o acknowledge_v also_o between_o minister_n and_o people_n but_o that_o there_o must_v be_v agreement_n or_o covenant_n of_o the_o wife_n among_o themselves_o the_o servant_n among_o themselves_o the_o subject_n among_o themselves_o and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o form_n of_o a_o family_n or_o of_o a_o commonwealth_n and_o so_o consequent_o christian_n agreement_n to_o be_v a_o church_n be_v you_o say_v the_o form_n of_o a_o church_n 3._o do_v you_o mean_v that_o any_o former_a agreement_n or_o covenant_n make_v by_o our_o parent_n unto_o domestic_a politic_n or_o ecclesiastic_a end_n and_o purpose_n do_v not_o bind_v we_o their_o child_n and_o successor_n but_o notwithstanding_o the_o same_o we_o without_o a_o particular_a and_o personal_a consent_n be_v not_o of_o the_o same_o family_n city_n commonwealth_n or_o church_n that_o they_o be_v of_o i_o pray_v you_o express_v yourselves_o plain_o sect._n 3_o reply_n p._n 38._o a_o solemn_a express_v and_o verbal_a covenant_n or_o agreement_n we_o assert_v necessary_a to_o the_o purity_n and_o strength_n of_o a_o church_n how_o shall_v saint_n and_o they_o alone_o live_v promiscuous_o in_o the_o world_n have_v communion_n together_o without_o express_v verbal_a consent_n which_o yet_o we_o judge_v aught_o to_o be_v if_o the_o rule_n be_v well_o attend_v rev._n 22.27_o &_o 22.14_o and_o how_o else_o such_o looseness_n as_o in_o our_o parssh_n church_n from_o which_o we_o may_v remove_v into_o another_o parish_n without_o render_v a_o reason_n the_o member_n in_o a_o natural_a body_n the_o stone_n in_o a_o house_n be_v not_o so_o loose_o set_v to_o which_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v compare_v eph._n 2.22_o 1_o cor._n 12.27_o may_v be_v prevent_v therefore_o we_o conceive_v a_o covenant_n necessary_a for_o such_o purpose_n rejoin_v 1._o you_o assert_v here_o more_o than_o i_o can_v yield_v unto_o for._n 1._o the_o scripture_n give_v we_o no_o precept_n or_o precedent_n of_o such_o a_o solemn_a express_a and_o verbal_a covenant_n which_o you_o assert_v necessary_a to_o the_o strength_n and_o well-being_n of_o the_o church_n for._n 1._o church-covenant_n have_v reference_n to_o church-state_n and_o church-duty_n as_o such_o as_o marriage_n have_v to_o conjugal_a duty_n as_o such_o apol._n for_o church_n cou._n p._n 3._o &_o 25._o this_o do_v distinguish_v it_o from_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o other_o covenant_n which_o have_v no_o more_o reference_n to_o those_o duty_n if_o so_o much_o as_o to_o other_o duty_n 2._o your_o church-covenant_n bind_v man_n to_o walk_v in_o all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n which_o in_o the_o know_a sense_n of_o your_o church_n express_v by_o your_o confession_n of_o faith_n and_o by_o your_o practice_n be_v no_o other_o than_o to_o walk_v in_o the_o congregational_a or_o independent_a way_n now_o no_o scripture_n do_v require_v that_o man_n shall_v covenant_v to_o walk_v in_o that_o way_n 3._o your_o church-covenant_n be_v not_o only_o with_o god_n but_o with_o a_o particular_a congregation_n which_o do_v difference_n it_o from_o all_o those_o covenant_n that_o be_v make_v with_o god_n only_o and_o not_o with_o any_o church_n 4._o your_o covenant_n be_v public_a vocal_a express_a and_o this_o do_v distinguish_v it_o from_o all_o those_o agreement_n that_o be_v only_o employ_v in_o action_n as_o one_o that_o dwell_v in_o manchester_n join_v in_o choose_v and_o submit_v to_o the_o constable_n and_o other_o officer_n pay_v lay_n and_o tax_n assist_v officer_n and_o bear_v office_n if_o require_v do_v tacit_o agree_v that_o he_o be_v a_o manchester_n man_n and_o yet_o we_o do_v not_o say_v he_o have_v enter_v into_o covenant_n or_o that_o none_o can_v be_v a_o manchester_n man_n but_o by_o covenant_n 5._o your_o solemn_a covenant_n be_v before_o the_o choose_n of_o officer_n which_o distinguish_v it_o from_o all_o such_o covenant_n as_o be_v make_v by_o a_o church_n have_v officer_n 6._o it_o bind_v man_n not_o to_o depart_v without_o leave-asking_a which_o though_o it_o be_v no_o ordinance_n of_o god_n but_o a_o politic_a invention_n yet_o it_o do_v infringe_v much_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n member_n which_o the_o else_o in_o some_o case_n may_v lawful_o depart_v without_o leave_n ask_v 7._o if_o a_o man_n can_v in_o conscience_n consent_n to_o your_o covenant_n he_o shall_v be_v seclude_v from_o the_o sacrament_n though_o he_o be_v never_o so_o fit_a and_o holy_a 8._o your_o covenant_n do_v translate_v man_n and_o remove_v man_n out_o of_o our_o church_n into_o you_o and_o make_v they_o member_n of_o a_o distinct_a church_n whereas_o scripture-covenant_n at_o the_o most_o do_v but_o confirm_v if_o so_o much_o man_n in_o their_o church-state_n if_o you_o can_v show_v such_o a_o church-covenant_n as_o this_o in_o scripture_n or_o that_o have_v all_o the_o essential_o of_o your_o church-covenant_n than_o i_o shall_v incline_v to_o believe_v it_o not_o only_o lawful_a but_o necessary_a to_o the_o church_n welbeing_n but_o i_o can_v believe_v any_o thing_n to_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o strength_n and_o purity_n of_o the_o church_n if_o it_o can_v be_v find_v in_o scripture_n some_o have_v say_v if_o set_v form_n of_o prayer_n have_v be_v lawful_a christ_n will_v have_v prescribe_v they_o i_o may_v much_o rather_o say_v if_o this_o church-covenant_n be_v so_o necessary_a christ_n will_v have_v prescribe_v it_o
2._o any_o separation_n or_o division_n that_o be_v of_o god_n may_v be_v bring_v about_o without_o our_o own_o invention_n the_o christian_n do_v separate_v them-themselves_a from_o among_o the_o jew_n and_o heathen_n and_o the_o protestant_n in_o queen_n mary_n day_n from_o the_o papist_n and_o yet_o without_o any_o such_o vocal_a express_a covenant_n that_o we_o read_v of_o 3._o if_o such_o looseness_n in_o our_o parish-church_n be_v so_o great_a a_o evil_a then_o take_v you_o heed_v you_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o that_o great_a evil_n by_o make_v that_o looseness_n great_a than_o it_o be_v or_o by_o god_n law_n ought_v to_o be_v be_v it_o a_o great_a evil_n for_o man_n that_o remove_v their_o habitation_n then_o for_o those_o that_o do_v not_o remove_v it_o all_o to_o depart_v from_o their_o parish-church_n without_o render_v a_o reason_n be_v it_o not_o a_o great_a evil_a to_o add_v to_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n our_o own_o carnal_a and_o politic_a device_n and_o to_o lay_v a_o yoke_n or_o covenant_n on_o our_o people_n which_o god_n have_v not_o lay_v on_o they_o for_o prevent_v of_o some_o inconvenience_n which_o god_n law_n do_v not_o enable_v we_o to_o prevent_v 2._o if_o there_o be_v any_o local_a bound_n as_o by_o scripture_n rule_n have_v be_v show_v there_o aught_o to_o be_v that_o inconvenience_n must_v necessary_o happen_v but_o to_o this_o i_o have_v speak_v before_o chap._n 2._o 3._o the_o place_n in_o eph._n 2.22_o be_v apparent_o not_o mean_v of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n but_o of_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o be_v call_v the_o city_n the_o household_n the_o temple_n and_o all_o the_o christian_n of_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o ephesus_n be_v not_o the_o whole_a city_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d fellow-citizen_n with_o the_o saint_n not_o the_o whole_a household_n but_o of_o the_o household_n not_o all_o the_o temple_n or_o building_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v build_v together_o with_o other_o 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of_o the_o part_n separate_v if_o not_o of_o the_o whole_a body_n nor_o can_v that_o member_n be_v willing_o separate_v from_o its_o body_n or_o join_v with_o any_o good_a effect_n to_o another_o body_n chap._n xiii_o whether_o deut._n 29._o or_o gen._n 17._o be_v precedent_n of_o a_o church-covenant_n sect._n 1_o the_o covenant_n in_o deut._n 29.1.10_o 11_o 12._o respect_n reply_v p._n 39_o principal_o church-duty_n more_o than_o other_o duty_n of_o the_o moral_a law_n v._o 16_o 17_o 18._o for_o he_o warn_v they_o of_o heathenish_a worship_n and_o will_v engage_v they_o by_o a_o holy_a covenant_n to_o all_o god_n holy_a worship_n of_o the_o passover_n and_o all_o the_o offering_n of_o god_n prescription_n which_o be_v to_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o door_n of_o the_o tabernacle_n of_o the_o congregation_n though_o a_o covenant_n bind_v to_o some_o duty_n of_o the_o moral_a law_n may_v be_v make_v by_o two_o or_o three_o person_n of_o several_a church_n and_o yet_o not_o make_v they_o member_n of_o a_o distinct_a church_n yet_o if_o they_o covenant_n to_o walk_v together_o in_o the_o constant_a enjoyment_n of_o all_o church-ordinance_n this_o will_v change_v their_o state_n and_o make_v they_o a_o church_n rejoin_v 1._o those_o verse_n contain_v in_o they_o moses_n admonition_n and_o exhortation_n to_o the_o people_n v._o 10._o you_o stand_v this_o day_n all_o of_o you_o before_o the_o lord_n your_o god_n v._o 12._o that_o thou_o shall_v enter_v into_o covenant_n with_o the_o lord_n thy_o god_n and_o into_o his_o oath_n which_o he_o make_v with_o thou_o this_o day_n etc._n etc._n that_o they_o shall_v not_o serve_v the_o god_n of_o egypt_n or_o of_o other_o nation_n lest_o there_o shall_v be_v among_o they_o man_n or_o woman_n or_o family_n or_o tribe_n who_o heart_n turn_v away_o from_o god_n but_o there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o mention_n of_o passover_n or_o other_o church-duty_n which_o you_o say_v that_o covenant_n do_v engage_v they_o to_o and_o therefore_o 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