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A42758 An assertion of the government of the Church of Scotland in the points of ruling-elders and of the authority of presbyteries and synods with a postscript in answer to a treatise lately published against presbyteriall government. Gillespie, George, 1613-1648. 1641 (1641) Wing G745; ESTC R16325 120,649 275

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send_v a_o message_n by_o the_o prophet_n will_v have_v a_o representative_a body_n of_o all_o judah_n to_o be_v gather_v together_o for_o receive_v it_o as_o tremellius_n note_v so_o 2_o king_n 6.32_o elisha_n sit_v in_o his_o house_n and_o the_o elder_n sit_v with_o he_o we_o read_v 2_o chron._n 19.8_o that_o with_o the_o priest_n be_v join_v some_o of_o the_o chief_a of_o the_o father_n of_o israel_n to_o judge_v ecclesiastical_a cause_n and_o controversy_n and_o howsoever_o many_o thing_n among_o the_o jew_n in_o the_o latter_a time_n after_o the_o captivity_n do_v wear_v to_o confusion_n and_o misorder_n yet_o we_o find_v even_o in_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o apostle_n that_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o people_n still_o sit_v and_o voice_v in_o council_n with_o the_o priest_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a form_n as_o be_v clear_a from_o sundry_a place_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n matth._n 16.21_o and_o 21.23_o and_o 26.57.59_o and_o 27.1.12_o mark_v 14_o 43._o luke_n 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senate_n at_o hague_n now_o though_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n alone_o can_v represent_v the_o church_n because_o hearer_n also_o belong_v to_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o the_o presbytery_n can_v well_o represent_v the_o church_n because_o it_o contain_v beside_o those_o who_o labour_n in_o the_o word_n rule_v elder_n put_v in_o authority_n by_o the_o church_n for_o the_o government_n thereof_o as_o gerard_n right_o resolve_v 137._o our_o divine_n prove_v against_o papist_n that_o some_o of_o these_o who_o they_o call_v laicke_n ought_v to_o have_v place_n in_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o church_n by_o this_o argument_n among_o the_o rest_n because_o otherwise_o the_o whole_a church_n can_v not_o be_v thereby_o represent_v three_o 9.10_o the_o lord_n command_v that_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n shall_v lay_v their_o hand_n upon_o the_o levit_n at_o their_o consecration_n and_o that_o the_o whole_a congregation_n shall_v be_v bring_v together_o for_o that_o effect_n this_o as_o some_o have_v observe_v out_o of_o aben-ezra_n 87._o can_v be_v so_o understand_v as_o if_o the_o many_o thousand_o which_o be_v then_o in_o the_o host_n of_o israel_n have_v all_o lay_v their_o hand_n upon_o they_o but_o the_o elder_n of_o israel_n only_o represent_v they_o so_o the_o lord_n say_v ●1_n speak_v to_o all_o the_o congregattion_n of_o israel_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o execution_n of_o this_o command_n be_v express_v thus_o then_o moses_n call_v for_o all_o the_o elder_n of_o israel_n and_o say_v unto_o they_o etc._n etc._n 4.5_o so_o josh._n 20.6_o four_o pastor_n and_o elder_n as_o they_o be_v the_o minister_n of_o jesus_n christ_n so_o be_v they_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o his_o spouse_n the_o church_n from_o that_o which_o have_v be_v say_v we_o may_v draw_v our_o argument_n in_o this_o form_n whatsoever_o court_n do_v
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