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invitos_fw-la ad_fw-la veritatem_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la cogendos_fw-la etc._n etc._n august_n contra_fw-la 2._o gaudentij_fw-la epist_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 17._o that_o be_v where_o as_o you_o think_v that_o man_n be_v not_o to_o be_v compel_v to_o the_o truth_n against_o their_o will_n you_o err_v not_o know_v the_o scripture_n nor_o the_o power_n of_o god_n which_o make_v those_o willing_a though_o they_o be_v compel_v against_o their_o will_n qui_fw-la phreneticum_fw-la ligat_fw-la &_o lethargicum_fw-la excitat_fw-la ambobus_fw-la molestus_fw-la ambos_fw-la amat_fw-la aug._n epist_n 48._o that_o be_v he_o that_o bind_v a_o frantic_a man_n and_o awake_v he_o that_o have_v the_o lethargy_n love_v both_o though_o he_o be_v grievous_a to_o both_o 2._o a_o godly_a prince_n may_v not_o suffer_v any_o religion_n but_o the_o true_a religion_n either_o public_o or_o private_o in_o his_o dominion_n the_o exercise_n of_o false_a religion_n be_v direct_o against_o the_o sanctification_n of_o 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baptize_v by_o unpreach_v minister_n if_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v by_o popish_a priest_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n and_o by_o unpreach_v minister_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n receive_v no_o sacrament_n many_o gross_a absurdity_n will_v follow_v first_o very_o many_o be_v unbaptise_v and_o if_o they_o be_v unbaptise_v they_o sin_v grievous_o in_o not_o present_v themselves_o to_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n second_o a_o great_a number_n have_v sin_v gross_o in_o partake_v the_o holy_a supper_n my_o reason_n be_v none_o uncircumcised_a may_v eat_v the_o passeover_n ezodus_fw-la 12._o verse_n 48._o therefore_o none_o unbaptise_v may_v receive_v the_o holy_a supper_n three_o many_o excellent_a man_n have_v usurp_v the_o preacher_n office_n my_o reason_n be_v it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o any_o man_n to_o be_v a_o public_a teacher_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n which_o be_v not_o by_o baptism_n graft_v into_o and_o so_o become_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n our_o saviour_n christ_n be_v baptize_v of_o john_n in_o jordane_n before_o he_o preach_v matth._n 3._o and_o 4._o chap._n the_o apostle_n paul_n be_v baptize_v of_o ananias_n in_o damascus_n before_o he_o preach_v act._n 9_o the_o unpreach_a minister_n do_v add_v the_o word_n unto_o the_o element_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n therefore_o it_o be_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n which_o be_v deliver_v by_o they_o accedit_fw-la verbum_fw-la ad_fw-la elementum_fw-la &_o fit_a sacramentum_fw-la aug._n tract_n 80._o in_o johan._n that_o be_v the_o word_n be_v add_v to_o the_o element_n and_o it_o become_v a_o sacrament_n by_o word_n in_o baptism_n be_v understand_v the_o word_n of_o institution_n which_o be_v to_o baptise_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n the_o son_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n etc._n etc._n of_o this_o judgement_n be_v beza_n confess_v cap._n 4._o art_n 47._o and_o musculus_fw-la de_fw-fr sig_n sacram._n art_n 4._o objection_n christ_n say_v to_o his_o apostle_n go_v and_o teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_v etc._n etc._n matth._n 28._o vers_fw-la 19_o therefore_o if_o the_o word_n preach_v be_v not_o add_v to_o the_o element_n it_o be_v no_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n answer_n the_o argument_n be_v very_o weak_a i_o confess_v that_o christ_n command_v his_o apostle_n first_o to_o teach_v such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n and_o alient_n from_o his_o religion_n and_o then_o to_o baptize_v they_o if_o the_o gentile_n have_v not_o be_v first_o teach_v they_o will_v not_o have_v offer_v themselves_o nor_o the_o apostle_n have_v admit_v they_o to_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n of_o baptism_n if_o any_o will_v conclude_v of_o this_o place_n in_o saint_n mathewe_n that_o none_o whatsoever_o may_v be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n before_o they_o be_v teach_v they_o shut_v our_o infant_n from_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n and_o therefore_o be_v catabaptist_n the_o unpreach_a minister_n do_v add_v verbum_fw-la adifican_n that_o be_v a_o edify_a word_n to_o the_o element_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n that_o there_o be_v verbum_fw-la aedificans_fw-la i_o prove_v it_o thus_o the_o sum_n of_o christ_n sermon_n in_o the_o institution_n &_o administration_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n by_o himself_o be_v the_o word_n of_o institution_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n therefore_o unless_o we_o will_v deny_v the_o sum_n of_o christ_n sermon_n to_o be_v a_o edify_a word_n which_o no_o learned_a man_n will_v deny_v we_o must_v confess_v that_o we_o have_v verbum_fw-la aedificans_fw-la in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o holy_a supper_n with_o us._n if_o any_o will_v conclude_v of_o this_o that_o i_o mislike_v preach_v before_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n he_o do_v i_o great_a wrong_n objection_n vnprech_v minister_n be_v not_o apt_a to_o teach_v therefore_o they_o be_v no_o sacrament_n which_o be_v deliver_v by_o they_o answer_n the_o argument_n follow_v not_o my_o reason_n be_v many_o jewish_a priest_n be_v both_o ignorant_a and_o dissolute_a in_o esay_n and_o christ_n time_n esay_n 28._o vers_fw-la 7._o matth._n 9_o vers_fw-la 36._o but_o the_o sacrifice_n offer_v and_o the_o sacrament_n reach_v by_o they_o be_v both_o sacrifice_n and_o sacrament_n otherwise_o the_o prophet_n which_o be_v at_o jerusalem_n when_o the_o jewish_a church_n be_v full_a of_o corruption_n will_v not_o have_v be_v present_a at_o and_o partaker_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n in_o salomon_n temple_n calu._n institut_fw-la lib._n 4._o cap._n 1._o sect_n 18_o 19_o objection_n ignorant_n minister_n be_v not_o apt_a to_o teach_v therefore_o no_o minister_n and_o consequent_o they_o be_v no_o sacrament_n which_o be_v deliver_v by_o they_o answer_n the_o argument_n follow_v not_o i_o grant_v that_o it_o be_v of_o the_o substance_n of_o a_o lawful_a &_o good_a minister_n of_o god_n to_o be_v apt_a to_o teach_v but_o it_o be_v not_o of_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o minister_n simple_o for_o which_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o have_v the_o church_n call_v this_o appear_v clear_o in_o the_o magistrate_n the_o holy_a ghost_n require_v that_o none_o shall_v be_v choose_v a_o magistrate_n unless_o he_o be_v a_o man_n of_o courage_n fear_v god_n deal_v true_o and_o hate_v covetousness_n exodus_fw-la 18._o verse_n 21._o when_o such_o be_v advance_v as_o defile_v their_o hand_n either_o with_o filthy_a bribe_n as_o felix_n do_v or_o with_o barbarous_a cruelty_n as_o abimelech_n and_o herode_fw-la do_v shall_v we_o say_v that_o they_o be_v no_o magistrate_n i_o confess_v they_o be_v not_o single_v out_o by_o the_o elector_n according_a to_o almighty_a god_n direction_n in_o his_o holy_a bible_n but_o they_o be_v magistrate_n notwithstanding_o and_o we_o be_v command_v by_o the_o lord_n to_o perform_v all_o duty_n unto_o they_o saluo_fw-la officio_fw-la that_o be_v our_o duty_n be_v reserve_v to_o the_o high_a magistrate_n which_o be_v god_n himself_o if_o any_o shall_v gather_v of_o this_o i_o have_v set_v down_o that_o i_o undertake_v the_o defence_n of_o ignorant_a minister_n my_o answer_n be_v that_o my_o writing_n and_o sermon_n be_v not_o aiax_n shield_n to_o cover_v they_o but_o the_o lord_n sword_n to_o cut_v they_o i_o confess_v free_o that_o i_o be_o very_o far_o from_o open_v either_o the_o church_n door_n to_o ignorant_a minister_n or_o the_o pulpit_n door_n to_o unskilful_a preacher_n which_o unskilful_a preacher_n give_v god_n religion_n a_o great_a blow_n than_o the_o ignorant_a minister_n for_o in_o stead_n of_o devide_v the_o word_n of_o truth_n aright_o they_o speak_v at_o all_o adventure_n yet_o very_o bold_o and_o as_o unskilful_a apothecary_n deliver_v quid_fw-la pro_fw-la quo_fw-la chaff_n for_o wheat_n and_o strange_a fancy_n for_o god_n holy_a truth_n by_o such_o absurd_a fellow_n many_o church_n and_o excellent_a man_n in_o this_o land_n
page_n 84._o they_o among_o we_o which_o be_v unbaptise_v do_v sin_n grienous_o if_o they_o do_v not_o present_v themselves_o to_o baptism_n chap._n 8._o page_n 88_o they_o which_o be_v once_o baptize_v must_v not_o be_v baptize_v again_o chap._n 19_o page_n 156._o they_o which_o be_v baptize_v of_o popish_a priest_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n receive_v true_a baptism_n etc._n etc._n chap_n 7._o page_n 79._o and_o chap._n 8._o page_n 88_o 89._o and_o chap._n 20._o page_n 156._o 157._o the_o false_a profession_n of_o christ_n in_o popery_n do_v not_o prove_v that_o the_o true_a christ_n be_v not_o in_o popish_a baptism_n cap._n 23._o pa._n 174._o whether_o infant_n ought_v rather_o to_o be_v keep_v unbaptise_v then_o to_o be_v present_v to_o popish_a baptism_n chap._n 23._o page_n 180._o the_o infant_n of_o papist_n may_v be_v baptize_v in_o a_o reform_a church_n if_o some_o of_o the_o religion_n do_v present_v they_o to_o baptism_n &_o do_v undertake_v the_o godly_a education_n of_o they_o cha_n 17._o pag._n 150._o there_o have_v be_v &_o may_v be_v true_a baptism_n out_o of_o the_o church_n chap._n 21._o page_n 158._o though_o true_a baptism_n be_v among_o the_o donatist_n out_n of_o the_o church_n august_n do_v not_o give_v leave_n to_o any_o of_o the_o church_n to_o present_v their_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v there_o cap._n 21._o pa._n 159._o they_o be_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o holy_a supper_n which_o be_v administer_v by_o unpreach_v minister_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n chap._n 8._o page_n 88_o 89._o 95._o 98._o none_o unbaptise_v may_v receive_v the_o holy_a supper_n chap._n 8._o page_n 90._o 91._o 92._o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o administer_v the_o holy_a supper_n in_o a_o private_a house_n if_o some_o caution_n be_v observe_v chap._n 15._o page_n 141._o 142._o every_o legal_a uncleanness_n be_v not_o join_v with_o sin_n chap._n 9_o page_n 113._o the_o regenerate_a can_v fulfil_v the_o law_n of_o god_n cha_n 26._o pa._n 199_o a_o table_n of_o divers_a gross_a error_n and_o anabaptisticall_a fancy_n contain_v in_o m._n penryes_n treatise_n etc._n etc._n master_n penry_n say_v that_o the_o life_n of_o the_o magistracy_n be_v neither_o prescribe_v in_o the_o word_n for_o so_o there_o can_v be_v no_o magistrate_n out_o of_o the_o church_n nor_o any_o in_o the_o church_n but_o such_o as_o be_v prescribe_v in_o the_o word_n which_o be_v impious_a to_o think_v nor_o contain_v in_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o magistracy_n nor_o yet_o separate_v from_o his_o outward_a call_n for_o the_o very_a outward_a calling_n be_v it_o that_o give_v life_n unto_o the_o magistracy_n though_o the_o person_n sustein_v it_o want_v gift_n to_o discharge_v the_o same_o the_o reason_n hereof_o be_v evident_a because_o the_o magistracy_n be_v a_o human_a constitution_n as_o the_o holy_a ghost_n say_v 1._o pet._n 2.13_o be_v appropriate_v unto_o his_o possession_n upon_o whosoever_o man_n bestow_v the_o same_o if_o he_o be_v capable_a to_o possess_v though_o unfit_a to_o execute_v what_o be_v a_o lot_v unto_o he_o in_o his_o addition_n page_n 48._o this_o speech_n of_o m._n penryes_n be_v very_o gross_a his_o first_o reason_n be_v this_o there_o may_v be_v magistrate_n out_o of_o the_o church_n therefore_o the_o life_n of_o the_o magistracy_n be_v not_o prescribe_v in_o the_o word_n m._n p._n antecedent_n be_v true_a for_o pharaoh_n nero_n julian_n be_v magistrate_n out_o of_o the_o church_n i_o deny_v his_o argument_n my_o reason_n be_v the_o gift_n of_o courage_n fear_v god_n deal_v true_o hate_v covetousness_n which_o be_v the_o life_n of_o the_o magistrate_n be_v prescribe_v in_o god_n book_n exo._n 18.21_o deu._n 1.13_o if_o you_o say_v they_o be_v not_o the_o life_n of_o the_o magistracy_n you_o dissent_v from_o all_o the_o learned_a and_o therefore_o must_v set_v down_o what_o god_n require_v of_o he_o that_o shall_v be_v his_o magistrate_n his_o second_o reason_n be_v this_o there_o be_v and_o may_v be_v magistrate_n within_o the_o church_n which_o be_v not_o garnish_v with_o the_o above_o name_v gift_n therefore_o the_o life_n of_o the_o magistracy_n be_v not_o prescribe_v in_o the_o word_n my_o answer_n be_v i_o confess_v that_o absurd_a magistrate_n have_v be_v and_o be_v many_o time_n advance_v in_o the_o church_n i_o grant_v they_o shall_v not_o either_o by_o the_o corruption_n or_o error_n of_o the_o electour_n but_o i_o deny_v your_o argument_n my_o reason_n be_v it_o be_v great_a wickedness_n to_o think_v because_o gross_a electour_n prefer_v unfit_a man_n and_o so_o fail_v in_o their_o duty_n that_o almighty_a god_n have_v fail_v in_o prescribe_v what_o kind_n of_o man_n he_o will_v have_v to_o be_v his_o lieutenant_n m._n penry_n add_v that_o the_o life_n of_o the_o magistracy_n be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o magistracy_n i_o dissent_v from_o he_o in_o this_o if_o he_o have_v say_v that_o the_o birth_n of_o the_o magistracy_n be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o magistracy_n he_o have_v hit_v the_o white_a m._n penry_n write_v that_o the_o life_n of_o the_o magistracy_n be_v not_o separate_v from_o his_o outward_a call_n for_o the_o very_a outward_a calling_n say_v he_o be_v it_o that_o give_v life_n unto_o the_o magistracy_n if_o this_o be_v true_a than_o the_o life_n and_o birth_n of_o the_o magistrate_n be_v idem_fw-la tempore_fw-la that_o be_v twin_n and_o consequent_o whosoever_o have_v the_o outward_a call_n which_o be_v the_o birth_n have_v the_o inward_a call_n which_o be_v the_o life_n of_o the_o magistrate_n so_o be_v god_n furniture_n tie_v to_o the_o electour_n voice_n as_o to_o the_o chair_n and_o the_o inward_a &_o outward_a call_n of_o the_o magistrate_n confound_v which_o be_v a_o palpable_a error_n if_o there_o be_v a_o outward_a call_n to_o the_o magistracy_n without_o the_o which_o no_o man_n howsoever_o furnish_v within_o may_v presume_v to_o execute_v the_o office_n of_o the_o magistrate_n i_o be_o sure_a there_o be_v a_o inward_a call_n to_o the_o magistracy_n for_o the_o outward_a call_n do_v import_v a_o inward_a if_o there_o be_v a_o inward_a call_n which_o be_v by_o god_n himself_o what_o i_o beseech_v you_o be_v it_o but_o such_o furniture_n and_o gift_n as_o be_v prescribe_v and_o require_v in_o the_o holy_a word_n the_o foundation_n whereupon_o m._n penry_n have_v build_v his_o former_a absurdity_n be_v a_o very_a rot_a post_n that_o be_v a_o gross_a deprave_v of_o a_o text_n of_o scripture_n viz._n the_o magistracy_n be_v a_o human_a ordinance_n 1._o pet._n 2.13_o that_o be_v a_o devise_n of_o man_n and_o not_o a_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n prescribe_v in_o the_o word_n that_o the_o magistracy_n be_v not_o any_o devise_n of_o man_n but_o god_n ordinance_n for_o the_o benefit_n of_o man_n be_v a_o clear_a truth_n in_o god_n book_n none_o doubt_v of_o it_o unless_o they_o be_v anabaptist_n or_o extreme_o ignorant_a m._n penry_n say_v that_o the_o word_n bare_o read_v and_o to_o no_o other_o purpose_n then_o to_o edify_v by_o read_v be_v not_o wholesome_a doctrine_n chap._n 8._o pag._n 99_o this_o be_v a_o blasphemous_a absurdity_n m._n penryes_n reason_n for_o it_o be_v most_o absurd_a and_o childish_a i_o refer_v you_o to_o my_o answer_n chap._n 8._o pag._n 100_o 101._o and_o to_o a_o proposition_n which_o i_o have_v handle_v chap._n 4._o pag._n 62._o etc._n etc._n m._n penry_n write_v that_o it_o be_v false_a to_o say_v that_o the_o recital_n of_o the_o sum_n of_o christ_n sermon_n that_o be_v the_o word_n of_o institution_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o edify_a word_n he_o say_v it_o mainteyn_v charm_v chap._n 8._o pag._n 88_o 89._o this_o be_v a_o blasphemous_a absurdity_n if_o every_o part_n of_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n do_v edify_v i_o trust_v the_o sum_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n sermon_n ought_v to_o have_v singular_a allowance_n if_o it_o ought_v to_o have_v singular_a allowance_n it_o may_v not_o be_v indict_v and_o arraign_v for_o maintenance_n of_o charm_a m._n penry_n say_v that_o the_o people_n can_v sanctify_v a_o sabbath_n without_o a_o sermon_n his_o word_n be_v these_o they_o be_v no_o minister_n who_o flock_n by_o their_o ministry_n can_v not_o sanctify_v the_o sabbath_n our_o reader_n be_v such_o etc._n etc._n in_o his_o addition_n pag._n 60._o m._n penry_n account_v the_o public_a read_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o public_a prayer_n no_o part_n of_o the_o sanctification_n of_o the_o sabbath_n if_o he_o have_v say_v that_o the_o sabbath_n be_v not_o so_o well_o sanctify_v without_o as_o with_o a_o godly_a sermon_n i_o will_v have_v agree_v unto_o he_o m._n penry_n make_v the_o person_n to_o give_v credit_n to_o the_o holy_a word_n his_o word_n be_v these_o the_o word_n of_o god_n utter_v be_v not_o a_o
edify_a word_n unless_o it_o be_v utter_v according_a to_o the_o ordinance_n both_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o person_n that_o utter_v the_o same_o and_o the_o end_n wherefore_o it_o be_v utter_v chap._n 8._o pag._n 99_o this_o be_v a_o popish_a error_n for_o the_o scripture_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v of_o credit_n in_o itself_o read_v my_o answer_n chap._n 8._o pag._n 102._o m._n penry_n say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o church_n at_o all_o in_o popery_n chap._n 23._o pag._n 175._o 176._o this_o be_v a_o gross_a error_n condemn_v of_o very_o famous_a man_n and_o all_o reform_a church_n if_o there_o be_v no_o church_n at_o all_o in_o popery_n these_o absurdity_n will_v follow_v first_o the_o pope_n be_v not_o antichrist_n second_o the_o infant_n of_o papist_n may_v not_o be_v baptize_v in_o any_o reform_a church_n though_o some_o of_o the_o religion_n do_v present_v they_o to_o baptism_n and_o public_o undertake_v the_o good_a education_n of_o they_o read_v that_o which_o i_o have_v write_v chap._n 17._o pag._n 147._o 148._o 149._o and_o chap._n 23._o pag._n 176._o m._n penry_n say_v that_o if_o there_o be_v a_o church_n in_o popery_n our_o magistrate_n etc._n etc._n be_v schismatic_n inasmuch_o as_o they_o have_v separate_v themselves_o from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n chap._n 17._o pag._n 151._o this_o be_v a_o gross_a and_o popish_a collection_n and_o can_v stand_v with_o the_o duty_n of_o a_o subject_n read_v my_o answer_n chap._n 17._o pag._n 151._o 152._o m._n penry_n write_v that_o man_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v not_o ingraff_v by_o baptism_n into_o a_o true_a christ_n his_o word_n be_v these_o where_o there_o be_v no_o true_a christ_n whereunto_o man_n can_v be_v ingraff_v by_o baptism_n there_o true_a baptism_n as_o touch_v the_o substance_n can_v be_v get_v etc._n etc._n but_o in_o popery_n there_o be_v no_o true_a christ_n whereinto_o man_n may_v be_v ingraff_v etc._n etc._n chap._n 23._o pag._n 173._o this_o be_v a_o 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write_v thus_o etc._n etc._n in_o popery_n there_o be_v no_o true_a christ_n whereunto_o man_n may_v be_v ingraff_v etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a before_o what_o baptism_n be_v that_o which_o be_v not_o a_o engraff_n into_o the_o true_a christ_n chap._n 23._o pag._n 173._o a_o little_a after_o he_o have_v these_o word_n there_o be_v no_o church_n at_o all_o in_o popery_n chap._n 23._o pag._n 175._o 176._o and_o in_o a_o other_o place_n etc._n etc._n that_o baptism_n be_v not_o out_o of_o the_o church_n if_o m._n penry_n shall_v answer_v that_o it_o be_v baptism_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n yesterday_o but_o it_o be_v not_o so_o either_o to_o day_n or_o to_o morrow_n because_o the_o christ_n profess_v now_o in_o popery_n be_v not_o a_o true_a but_o a_o divided_a christ_n i_o must_v needs_o tell_v he_o that_o christ_n in_o the_o popish_a profession_n be_v divide_v as_o well_o when_o her_o majesty_n etc._n etc._n be_v baptise_a as_o he_o be_v divide_v in_o the_o popish_a profession_n 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observe_v i_o rest_v in_o his_o judgement_n i_o refer_v you_o to_o chap._n 15._o page_n 141._o 142._o m._n penry_n say_v that_o they_o which_o communicate_v with_o unpreach_v minister_n approve_v the_o sin_n of_o the_o unpreach_a ministry_n chap._n 10._o pag._n 119._o this_o be_v a_o anabaptisticall_a fancy_n for_o s._n paul_n as_o m._n penry_n write_v communicate_v after_o his_o conversion_n with_o those_o priest_n which_o be_v as_o unlearned_a as_o ever_o any_o chap._n 11._o pag._n 128._o i_o refer_v you_o beside_o to_o my_o answer_n chap._n 10._o pag._n 119._o m._n penry_n be_v bold_a to_o control_v almighty_a god_n for_o bar_v the_o uncircumcised_a israelite_n from_o eat_v the_o paschall_n lamb_n his_o word_n be_v these_o why_o shall_v the_o godly_a of_o the_o family_n be_v exclude_v from_o the_o action_n the_o cause_n why_o they_o be_v uncircumcised_a not_o be_v in_o they_o chap._n 8._o pag._n 89._o this_o be_v intolerable_a sauciness_n it_o become_v not_o dust_n and_o ash_n to_o 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