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this_o the_o doctor_n stiff_o deny_v p._n 70._o and_o in_o p._n 62._o say_v the_o schism_n the_o apostle_n rebuke_v consist_v in_o division_n in_o it_o and_o not_o in_o separation_n from_o it_o then_o in_o p._n 72._o what_o that_o schism_n be_v from_o which_o he_o dehort_v they_o he_o declare_v only_o in_o the_o instance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n and_o thence_o be_v the_o measure_n of_o it_o to_o be_v take_v in_o reference_n to_o all_o dehort_v from_o it_o hence_o than_o we_o must_v dehort_v man_n from_o division_n in_o the_o church_n as_o be_v schism_n the_o measure_n allow_v it_o but_o we_o must_v not_o dehort_v they_o from_o causeless_a separation_n from_o a_o church_n as_o be_v schism_n because_o that_o only_a instance_n which_o be_v the_o measure_n do_v not_o call_v it_o schism_n if_o that_o instance_n be_v the_o measure_n what_o then_o do_v not_o punctual_o agree_v with_o it_o be_v not_o schism_n 2._o in_o his_o book_n of_o schism_n p._n 42._o to_o this_o q._n if_o 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where_o some_o be_v for_o cephas_n other_o for_o apollo_n etc._n etc._n but_o further_a let_v we_o inquire_v into_o the_o form_n of_o the_o sin_n where_o it_o be_v in_o the_o division_n among_o the_o member_n to_o the_o disturbance_n of_o the_o order_n in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n i_o wish_v the_o doctor_n have_v tell_v we_o how_o that_o order_n be_v disturb_v some_o thing_n he_o do_v mention_n but_o whether_o all_o the_o disorder_n in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n be_v record_v i_o know_v not_o and_o that_o which_o be_v record_v admit_v of_o some_o question_n to_o be_v resolve_v before_o we_o can_v clear_o understand_v it_o as_o for_o the_o disturbance_n of_o the_o order_n i_o suppose_v he_o do_v not_o make_v that_o the_o form_n of_o the_o sin_n of_o schism_n nor_o part_n of_o it_o i_o look_v on_o it_o rather_o as_o a_o consequent_a of_o the_o schism_n therefore_o not_o the_o form_n neither_o do_v i_o look_v on_o order_n and_o schism_n proper_o as_o contrary_a where_o vnum_fw-la uni_fw-la tantum_fw-la opponitur_fw-la they_o do_v not_o cominus_fw-la inter_fw-la se_fw-la pugnare_fw-la per_fw-la proximas_fw-la formas_fw-la nor_o be_o i_o certain_a that_o there_o be_v ever_o schism_n where_o yet_o some_o disorder_n have_v be_v find_v i_o can_v tell_v that_o there_o be_v schism_n among_o the_o prophet_n 1_o cor._n 14._o but_o some_o disorder_n there_o be_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o gift_n as_o it_o shall_v seem_v by_o the_o last_o verse_n the_o apostle_n call_v for_o order_n ecclesiastical_a union_n causeless_o dissolve_v i_o take_v to_o be_v the_o form_n of_o schism_n this_o be_v it_o by_o which_o schism_n be_v id_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la if_o then_o the_o doctor_n will_v allow_v that_o schism_n may_v be_v in_o church_n by_o consequence_n though_o the_o cause_n be_v not_o such_o as_o be_v in_o corinth_n northe_a
church_n parallel_v to_o corinth_n in_o all_o thing_n because_o there_o be_v the_o form_n of_o that_o sin_n which_o be_v in_o corinth_n call_v schism_n then_o if_o canseless_a separation_n from_o a_o church_n be_v ecclesiastical_a union_n causeless_o dissolve_v there_o must_v needs_o by_o consequence_n be_v schism_n also_o for_o posita_fw-la forma_fw-la ponitur_fw-la formatum_fw-la 4._o the_o doctor_n tell_v we_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o use_v in_o the_o scripture_n for_o secession_n or_o separation_n into_o party_n division_n it_o do_v signify_v but_o do_v the_o propriety_n of_o the_o word_n forbid_v it_o to_o signify_v division_n into_o party_n in_o a_o ecclesiastical_a sense_n it_o be_v use_v only_o in_o this_o particular_a example_n he_o say_v therefore_o it_o can_v signify_v no_o other_o i_o suppose_v the_o syriack_n translator_n be_v not_o of_o the_o doctor_n be_v mind_n for_o he_o use_v that_o word_n in_o the_o 11._o ch_z 18._o &_o 12._o ch_z 25._o which_o come_v from_o the_o same_o root_n with_o peleg_n gen._n 10.25_o whence_o peleg_n have_v his_o name_n the_o text_n tell_v we_o and_o i_o think_v there_o be_v division_n into_o many_o party_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o its_o primitive_a signification_n will_v carry_v a_o division_n into_o part_n matth._n 27.51_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o grant_v the_o septuagint_n see_v septuagint_n other_o greek_a version_n i_o have_v not_o to_o see_v do_v not_o use_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o 1_o kin._n 11.11_o 31._o yet_o why_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v not_o be_v translate_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o signify_v what_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v i_o know_v not_o i_o conceive_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v of_o a_o large_a signification_n than_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o comprehend_v what_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v this_o appear_v 1._o by_o the_o learned_a who_o as_o they_o render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o findo_fw-mi scindo_fw-mi so_o they_o render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d findere_fw-la scindere_fw-la qui_fw-la pannum_fw-la aut_fw-la aliquod_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la continuum_fw-la dirumpit_fw-la etc._n etc._n buxt_v schind_a pagn_n merc._n hence_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v render_v scissura_fw-la so_o the_o 70._o in_o v._o 30_o &_o 31_o render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d scissurae_fw-la so_o the_o vulgar_a render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 31._o nor_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d always_o signify_v the_o rend_n of_o a_o thing_n into_o part_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o doctor_n be_v notion_n more_o then_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o among_o the_o physician_n a_o rapture_n in_o a_o membrane_n the_o rend_n of_o a_o muscle_n they_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o the_o part_n be_v not_o separate_v from_o the_o body_n so_o gorraeus_n 2._o because_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v use_v and_o apply_v to_o such_o thing_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o new_a testament_n as_o to_o the_o rend_n of_o clothes_n here_o and_o in_o divers_a other_o text_n so_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d john_n 19.24_o matth._n 27.51_o luke_n 5.36_o john_n 21.11_o so_o that_o though_o the_o hebrew_n have_v two_o other_o word_n which_o the_o learned_a render_v scindere_fw-la findere_fw-la yet_o none_o i_o conceive_v answer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o this_o do_v there_o may_v be_v something_o in_o this_o that_o the_o arabic_a in_o the_o 11._o v._o use_n that_o verb_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whence_o the_o noun_n in_o 1_o cor._n 12.25_o come_v whence_o i_o think_v we_o may_v proper_o say_v there_o be_v a_o great_a schism_n in_o the_o church_n and_o commonwealth_n of_o israel_n and_o here_o be_v separation_n with_o a_o witness_n to_o search_v over_o other_o divine_n to_o see_v what_o they_o have_v say_v about_o schism_n i_o think_v it_o in_o vain_a because_o the_o doctor_n have_v lay_v a_o bar_n against_o they_o all_o they_o be_v all_o mistake_v and_o so_o their_o authority_n be_v worth_a nothing_o but_o when_o i_o have_v do_v two_o man_n come_v into_o my_o mind_n who_o be_v near_o to_o the_o doctor_n be_v principle_n be_v congregational_a man_n and_o therefore_o have_v need_n to_o look_v to_o themselves_o in_o their_o definition_n of_o schism_n man_n of_o great_a renown_n for_o learning_n and_o piety_n dr._n ames_n and_o our_o mr._n norton_n in_o n._n e._n in_o answer_n to_o the_o q._n quid_fw-la est_fw-la schisma_fw-la i_o find_v ames_n thus_o answer_v schisma_fw-la dicitur_fw-la a_o scindendo_fw-la &_o est_fw-la scissio_fw-la separatio_fw-la disjunctio_fw-la aut_fw-la dissolutio_fw-la vnionis_fw-la illius_fw-la quae_fw-la debet_fw-la inter_fw-la christianos_n observari_fw-la i_o be_v near_a to_o the_o doctor_n be_v definition_n then_o i_o be_v aware_a of_o but_o then_o he_o add_v quia_fw-la autem_fw-la haec_fw-la scissio_fw-la maxim_n perficitur_fw-la &_o apparet_fw-la in_o debita_fw-la communione_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la recusanda_fw-la idcirco_fw-la illa_fw-la separatio_fw-la per_fw-la appropriationem_fw-la singularem_fw-la recte_fw-la voco_fw-la schisma_fw-la thus_o he_o mr._n norton_n thus_o schisma_fw-la est_fw-la illicita_fw-la separatio_fw-la a_o communione_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la semper_fw-la grande_fw-fr malum_fw-la i_o will_v look_v no_o further_o these_o be_v sufficient_a now_o for_o the_o catholick-church_n i_o be_o to_o prove_v there_o may_v be_v schism_n in_o it_o for_o my_o groundwork_n i_o lay_v that_o text_n 1_o cor._n 12.25_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o schism_n in_o the_o body_n if_o by_o the_o body_n in_o this_o text_n be_v mean_v the_o catholick-church_n visible_a than_o schism_n may_v be_v in_o the_o catholick-church_n visible_a but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o consequence_n can_v be_v deny_v the_o antecedent_n be_v to_o be_v prove_v that_o by_o the_o body_n be_v mean_v the_o church_n the_o doctor_n yield_v schis_fw-la p._n 147._o but_o what_o church_n he_o speak_v of_o be_v not_o evident_a the_o difference_n he_o speak_v of_o in_o the_o individual_a person_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o in_o respect_n of_o office_n power_n and_o authority_n but_o gift_n and_o grace_n and_o usefulness_n on_o that_o account_n thus_o he_o but_o i_o have_v think_v that_o by_o apostle_n prophet_n teacher_n help_n government_n v._o 28._o he_o have_v proper_o speak_v of_o office_n power_n and_o authority_n be_v gift_n and_o grace_n mean_v by_o these_o word_n very_o strange_a but_o to_o come_v to_o our_o text._n if_o the_o church_n be_v here_o mean_v than_o it_o be_v either_o the_o church_n invisible_a or_o visible_a but_o not_o the_o invisible_a that_o the_o chapter_n clear_v and_o the_o doctor_n say_v it_o be_v impossible_a schism_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o invisible_a church_n if_o visible_a then_o either_o the_o catholic_n or_o a_o particular_a church_n but_o not_o a_o particular_a ergo_fw-la this_n i_o grant_v that_o by_o body_n in_o one_o text_n v._o 27._o a_o particular_a church_n be_v mention_v because_o the_o apostle_n apply_v what_o he_o have_v be_v speak_v of_o before_o to_o this_o particular_a church_n be_v a_o similar_v part_n of_o the_o church-catholick_n as_o our_o mr._n norton_n and_o other_o divine_n in_o the_o definition_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n thou_o some_o physician_n make_v different_a definition_n as_o we_o respect_v the_o matter_n or_o form_n of_o a_o similar_v part_n yet_o i_o content_v myself_o with_o that_o definition_n which_o be_v common_o give_v what_o duty_n be_v enjoin_v the_o catholick-church_n or_o what_o sin_n be_v forbid_v these_o concern_v every_o particular_a church_n for_o christ_n give_v his_o law_n to_o the_o catholick-church_n primary_o no_o particular_a church_n have_v a_o special_a law_n give_v to_o it_o as_o such_o whence_o well_o may_v the_o apostle_n apply_v his_o speech_n to_o this_o particular_a church_n but_o that_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o discourse_v of_o a_o particular_a church_n in_o view_v over_o the_o chapter_n these_o argument_n persuade_v i_o 1._o it_o be_v such_o a_o body_n into_o which_o we_o be_v all_o baptize_v v._o 13._o but_o be_v we_o baptize_v into_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v that_o the_o one_o body_n the_o apostle_n mean_v let_v the_o doctor_n speak_v rev._n p._n 134._o i_o be_o so_o far_o from_o confine_v baptism_n subjective_o to_o a_o particular_a congregation_n that_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o any_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v ever_o regular_o baptize_v as_o much_o he_o seem_v to_o intimate_v schis_fw-la p._n 133._o in_o his_o answer_n to_o this_o question_n wherein_o consist_v the_o unity_n of_o the_o catholick-church_n a._n it_o be_v summon_v up_o in_o eph._n 4.5_o one_o lord_n one_o faith_n one_o baptism_n it_o be_v the_o unity_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n
doctor_n have_v deliver_v concern_v schism_n though_o with_o a_o great_a part_n of_o it_o i_o be_o abundant_o man_n of_o more_o learning_n than_o i_o be_o may_v give_v more_o only_o this_o i_o i_o may_v and_o do_v add_v it_o be_v a_o trouble_n to_o i_o that_o i_o have_v cause_n in_o any_o point_n to_o appear_v cross_a to_o the_o doctor_n with_o who_o i_o have_v have_v so_o much_o inward_a familiarity_n who_o i_o have_v so_o entire_o love_v and_o honour_v and_o do_v still_o both_o honour_n and_o love_n chap._n ii_o concern_v the_o parochial_a congregation_n in_o england_n i_o take_v it_o for_o grant_v that_o our_o congregational_a brethren_n do_v look_v on_o the_o parochial_a congregation_n where_o they_o come_v and_o have_v gather_v church_n as_o true_a church_n before_o they_o come_v there_o and_o so_o do_v not_o lay_v new_a foundation_n or_o gather_v church_n where_o there_o be_v none_o before_o only_o the_o congregation_n be_v overgrow_v with_o person_n gross_o ignorant_a and_o 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they_o demand_v the_o ordinance_n of_o i_o so_o far_o i_o go_v along_o with_o our_o brethren_n that_o many_o parochial_a congregation_n be_v true_a church_n i_o doubt_v not_o though_o the_o presbyterial_a brethren_n have_v not_o proceed_v so_o far_o as_o other_o have_v do_v and_o therefore_o the_o congregational_a brethren_n may_v safe_o have_v communion_n with_o they_o some_o thing_n let_v i_o premise_v and_o then_o i_o will_v give_v one_o argument_n or_o two_o 1._o the_o want_n of_o some_o ordinance_n in_o a_o church_n destroy_v not_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o church_n then_o there_o can_v be_v no_o homogeneal_a church_n our_o brethren_n i_o hope_v will_v not_o allow_v the_o fraternity_n be_v destitute_a of_o officer_n to_o baptize_v etc._n etc._n but_o yet_o a_o homogeneal_a church_n they_o maintain_v much_o may_v be_v speak_v here_o but_o i_o forbear_v ecclesiastical_a discipline_n which_o some_o allege_v as_o be_v want_v in_o these_o parochial_a church_n do_v not_o therefore_o 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