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A55393 Quo warranto, or, A moderate enquiry into the warrantablenesse of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons where also some other questions are discussed : viz. concerning [brace] ministerial relation, election, ordination : being a vindication of the late Jus divinum ministerii evangeliei ... from the exceptions of Mr. John Martin, Mr. Sam. Pette, Mr. Frederick Woodal ... in their late book, intituled The preacher sent / by Matthew Poole ... Poole, Matthew, 1624-1679. 1659 (1659) Wing P2850; ESTC R33938 110,108 175

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the_o ministry_n be_v better_a define_v by_o relation_n to_o the_o work_n than_o to_o a_o particular_a people_n where_o i_o desire_v it_o may_v be_v observe_v that_o the_o assembly_n do_v not_o say_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v better_a define_v by_o relation_n to_o the_o work_n than_o to_o the_o church_n in_o general_a but_o than_o to_o a_o particular_a church_n it_o be_v not_o the_o design_n of_o the_o assembly_n to_o deny_v the_o ministry_n to_o be_v a_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n nor_o yet_o be_v it_o their_o business_n accurate_o to_o insist_v upon_o the_o notion_n of_o relate_v and_o correlate_n they_o never_o call_v the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n the_o correlate_n but_o only_o obiter_fw-la and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o assert_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n to_o be_v better_o define_v by_o relation_n to_o the_o work_n than_o to_o a_o particular_a church_n which_o our_o brethren_n have_v not_o here_o disprove_v but_o only_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n rather_o consist_v in_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n in_o general_n than_o to_o the_o work_n so_o that_o all_o their_o labour_n as_o to_o that_o particular_a may_v have_v be_v spare_v to_o which_o may_v be_v add_v that_o we_o must_v distinguish_v between_o the_o abstract_n ministry_n and_o the_o concrete_a a_o minister_n and_o although_o the_o minister_n in_o the_o concrete_a have_v the_o church_n for_o his_o correlatum_fw-la yet_o that_o the_o ministry_n in_o the_o abstract_n shall_v have_v relation_n to_o the_o work_n be_v no_o more_o absurd_a then_o that_o the_o office_n of_o a_o king_n shall_v have_v relation_n to_o rule_v which_o i_o think_v no_o sober_a man_n will_v deny_v and_o especial_o when_o such_o a_o thing_n be_v bring_v in_o occasional_o by_o a_o person_n not_o mind_v nor_o oblige_v to_o mind_n the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o word_n it_o be_v a_o vanity_n in_o any_o man_n to_o batter_v down_o such_o a_o expression_n by_o a_o quaternion_n of_o argument_n which_o our_o brethren_n have_v attempt_v to_o do_v to_o which_o may_v be_v add_v that_o that_o rule_n upon_o which_o their_o first_o argument_n hang_v viz._n relata_fw-la sunt_fw-la simul_fw-la &_o do_v mutuo_fw-la se_fw-la ponere_fw-la &_o tollere_fw-la be_v true_a only_a of_o predicamental_a but_o not_o of_o transcendentall_a relation_n such_o as_o this_o be_v who_o being_n be_v not_o whole_o respective_a metap_n as_o the_o master_n of_o the_o metaphysic_n inform_v we_o and_o the_o same_o answer_n also_o may_v serve_v for_o the_o second_o argument_n which_o indeed_o be_v but_o the_o same_o viz._n that_o relation_n must_v be_v together_o but_o the_o office_n be_v a_o mean_n to_o the_o work_n as_o a_o end_n and_o so_o the_o office_n must_v needs_o be_v first_o and_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o relative_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v 1._o as_o before_o the_o rule_n hold_v not_o of_o transcendentall_a relation_n 2._o a_o potential_a be_v be_v sufficient_a in_o relation_n my_o knowledge_n of_o a_o rose_n to_o be_v in_o the_o spring_n be_v relate_v to_o that_o rose_n even_o in_o winter_n and_o yet_o the_o rose_n do_v not_o actual_o but_o only_o potential_o exist_v in_o winter_n the_o other_o two_o argument_n be_v trivial_a and_o therefore_o i_o shall_v dilate_v no_o further_o about_o they_o because_o this_o be_v a_o logical_a and_o no_o theological_a controversy_n chap._n ii_o &_o iii_o qu._n whether_o minister_n be_v only_a minister_n to_o their_o particular_a flock_n in_o handle_v of_o this_o i_o shall_v 1._o state_n the_o question_n plain_o and_o faithful_o 2._o i_o shall_v offer_v some_o argument_n for_o the_o negative_a 3._o i_o shall_v inquire_v what_o our_o brethren_n have_v to_o say_v for_o the_o affirmative_a for_o the_o state_n of_o this_o question_n we_o must_v take_v notice_n of_o another_o question_n whence_o it_o have_v its_o rise_n and_o be_v to_o wit_n whether_o beside_o particular_a congregational_a church_n there_o be_v any_o other_o visible_a political_a church_n mention_v in_o scripture_n it_o have_v till_o these_o last_o time_n be_v universal_o receive_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n that_o beside_o that_o union_n and_o communion_n whereby_o the_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n meet_v together_o in_o a_o congregation_n for_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n there_o be_v another_o union_n and_o communion_n whereby_o particular_a church_n do_v by_o their_o delegate_n because_o in_o their_o person_n they_o all_o can_v meet_v together_o combine_v consult_v and_o conclude_v in_o common_a as_o they_o judge_v most_o expedient_a for_o the_o good_a of_o their_o particular_a church_n this_o sufficient_o appear_v from_o the_o constant_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n even_o from_o the_o apostle_n time_n act_n 15._o and_o so_o downward_o which_o be_v when_o ever_o necessity_n require_v and_o opportunity_n be_v offer_v to_o meet_v together_o in_o synod_n and_o in_o common_a to_o govern_v all_o their_o church_n and_o as_o these_o meeting_n be_v great_a or_o less_o so_o they_o receive_v a_o differ_a denomination_n be_v call_v synod_n ecumenical_a provincial_a etc._n etc._n and_o this_o be_v at_o this_o day_n the_o judgement_n of_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o the_o world_n some_o few_o among_o ourselves_o be_v except_v and_o our_o dear_a brethren_n in_o new-england_n both_o know_v by_o the_o name_n of_o congregationall_a man_n so_o call_v from_o this_o their_o first_o principle_n that_o the_o scripture_n own_v no_o visible_a church_n but_o one_o congregation_n from_o hence_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v according_a to_o our_o brethren_n mind_n that_o minister_n be_v minister_n only_o to_o their_o own_o congregation_n as_o on_o the_o other_o side_n they_o that_o own_o another_o church_n beside_o congregational_a do_v assert_v that_o minister_n have_v a_o double_a relation_n the_o one_o to_o their_o own_o particular_a flock_n the_o other_o to_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o thus_o much_o for_o the_o rise_n of_o the_o question_n for_o our_o brethren_n mind_n we_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o go_v far_o they_o affirm_v positive_o that_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o they_o deny_v they_o to_o be_v officer_n to_o a_o church_n universal_a or_o to_o any_o but_o their_o own_o flock_n pag._n 8._o but_o here_o i_o can_v but_o take_v notice_n of_o a_o weighty_a difference_n among_o our_o congregational_a brethren_n in_o which_o they_o shall_v do_v well_o to_o be_v reconcile_v before_o they_o endeavour_v too_o eager_o to_o obtrude_v their_o notion_n upon_o the_o world_n it_o be_v this_o mr._n shepherd_n and_o allen_n in_o their_o answer_n to_o the_o nine_o question_n assert_v that_o though_o minister_n be_v officer_n only_o to_o their_o own_o flock_n yet_o they_o may_v perform_v act_n of_o their_o office_n towards_o other_o pag._n 133._o and_o learned_a mr._n norton_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d conclude_v that_o a_o minister_n preach_v to_o another_o congregation_n non_fw-la tantum_fw-la virtute_fw-la donorum_fw-la &_o charitatis_fw-la sed_fw-la ex_fw-la vi_fw-la vocationis_fw-la etc._n etc._n i._n e._n not_o only_o as_o a_o gift_a brother_n but_o as_o a_o officer_n and_o it_o be_v sufficient_o know_v that_o it_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o person_n of_o great_a note_n in_o that_o way_n among_o we_o in_o england_n now_o on_o the_o other_o side_n reverend_a mr._n hooker_n express_o affirm_v that_o when_o a_o minister_n preach_v to_o another_o congregation_n he_o preach_v not_o as_o a_o pastor_n but_o as_o a_o gift_a man_n survey_v part_v 2._o p._n 32._o and_o our_o brethren_n in_o this_o book_n fall_v in_o with_o he_o and_o will_v not_o allow_v minister_n either_o to_o be_v officer_n or_o to_o act_v as_o officer_n towards_o any_o except_o their_o own_o congregation_n for_o the_o better_a clear_n of_o the_o present_a question_n i_o shall_v premise_v two_o consideration_n which_o indeed_o do_v strike_v at_o the_o root_n of_o all_o their_o objection_n i._o that_o there_o be_v two_o way_n whereby_o a_o minister_n may_v be_v a_o minister_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n 1._o actu_fw-la secundo_fw-la actual_o immediate_o absolute_o and_o independent_o so_o that_o he_o may_v without_o any_o other_o warrant_v undertake_v to_o teach_v and_o govern_v the_o whole_a church_n if_o it_o be_v possible_a this_o be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o apostle_n and_o sure_o this_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o distinguish_v they_o from_o ordinary_a pastor_n 2._o one_o may_v be_v a_o officer_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n actu_fw-la primo_fw-la habitual_o aptitudinal_o mediate_o conditional_o and_o depend_o so_o that_o he_o have_v a_o jus_o or_o power_n to_o teach_v every_o where_o go_v preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o every_o creature_n but_o may_v not_o exercise_v that_o jus_o or_o power_n every_o where_o but_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n
be_v to_o preach_v with_o all_o authority_n stranger_n be_v as_o well_o oblige_v to_o obey_v he_o as_o his_o own_o people_n 2._o even_o heathen_n be_v bind_v to_o hear_v minister_n preach_v to_o they_o and_o that_o not_o only_a ex_fw-la vi_fw-la materiae_fw-la because_o of_o the_o matter_n they_o treat_v of_o but_o virtute_fw-la muneris_fw-la by_o virtue_n of_o their_o office_n he_o that_o hear_v you_o hear_v i_o and_o he_o that_o despise_v you_o despise_v i_o luke_n 10._o 16._o and_o therefore_o as_o the_o jew_n and_o heathen_n be_v bind_v to_o hear_v christ_n not_o only_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o message_n which_o he_o bring_v but_o also_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o office_n as_o he_o be_v the_o mediator_n and_o the_o great_a prophet_n in_o the_o church_n deut._n 18_o 15_o 19_o so_o also_o it_o be_v with_o minister_n who_o act_n as_o in_o christ_n stead_n they_o be_v to_o be_v hear_v even_o by_o heathen_n for_o their_o office_n sake_n as_o well_o as_o for_o their_o doctrine_n and_o those_o jew_n or_o heathen_n which_o disobey_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o only_o charge_v with_o the_o guilt_n of_o reject_v the_o truth_n but_o also_o of_o contemn_v the_o person_n and_o office_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o can_v not_o have_v be_v if_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o preach_v as_o officer_n to_o such_o and_o sure_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v repute_v strange_a doctrine_n to_o say_v that_o a_o minister_n yea_o a_o apostle_n preach_v to_o heathen_n do_v preach_v no_o more_o authoritative_o than_o any_o woman_n or_o child_n that_o be_v occasional_o discourse_v to_o such_o of_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n the_o apostle_n may_v challenge_v maintenance_n of_o those_o heathen_n to_o who_o they_o preach_v mat._n 10._o 10._o 1_o cor_fw-la 9_o which_o such_o woman_n and_o child_n can_v not_o pretend_v to_o which_o clear_o demonstrate_v that_o the_o apostle_n preach_v not_o as_o gift_v person_n but_o as_o officer_n to_o they_o the_o apostle_n preach_v to_o such_o have_v a_o power_n authoritative_o to_o pronounce_v pardon_n or_o to_o denounce_v wrath_n to_o they_o upon_o their_o believe_v or_o disobey_v which_o be_v the_o two_o act_n of_o the_o key_n and_o which_o to_o do_v require_v a_o office-relation_n to_o they_o if_o it_o be_v object_v that_o this_o may_v be_v true_a of_o the_o apostle_n that_o they_o be_v ambassador_n and_o preach_v as_o ambassador_n to_o heathen_n and_o yet_o not_o true_a of_o ordinary_a pastor_n i_o answer_v either_o ordinary_a minister_n be_v ambassador_n or_o else_o christ_n have_v not_o have_v any_o ambassador_n in_o the_o world_n since_o the_o day_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o christ_n have_v have_v and_o have_v ambassador_n still_o in_o the_o world_n therefore_o minister_n be_v ordinary_a ambassador_n the_o major_n be_v plain_a for_o if_o only_a extraordinary_a officer_n be_v ambassador_n then_o where_o there_o be_v no_o such_o extraordinary_a officer_n there_o be_v no_o ambassador_n the_o minor_a also_o be_v no_o less_o clear_a that_o the_o office_n of_o gospel_n ambassador_n be_v a_o continue_a ordinance_n and_o it_o be_v most_o ridiculous_a to_o think_v that_o while_o the_o design_n and_o work_v of_o the_o ambassador_n last_v his_o office_n shall_v not_o continue_v and_o beside_o christ_n have_v perpetuate_v the_o office_n mat._n 28._o 19_o 20._o if_o it_o be_v say_v they_o be_v ambassador_n indeed_o but_o it_o be_v to_o their_o own_o people_n not_o to_o heathen_n i_o answer_v yes_o rather_o they_o be_v ambassador_n to_o heathen_n for_o as_o the_o great_a work_n of_o other_o ambassador_n be_v to_o make_v peace_n so_o also_o gospel-ambassador_n their_o great_a business_n be_v to_o beseech_v man_n to_o be_v reconcile_v to_o god_n and_o therefore_o their_o principal_a object_n be_v not_o the_o church_n who_o be_v already_o suppose_v to_o be_v reconcile_v but_o heathen_n and_o stranger_n who_o be_v yet_o unreconciled_a and_o see_v ordinary_a minister_n preach_v to_o heathen_n have_v a_o power_n upon_o their_o repentance_n to_o remit_v sin_n i._n e._n to_o declare_v their_o sin_n remit_v official_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v ambassador_n to_o such_o and_o the_o apostle_n in_o this_o place_n ascribe_v both_o the_o name_n and_o work_v of_o ambassador_n unto_o ordinary_a minister_n speak_v in_o the_o plural_a number_n we_o then_o as_o ambassador_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o attribute_n the_o name_n to_o himself_o upon_o a_o ground_n common_a with_o he_o to_o ordinary_a minister_n i._n e._n because_o he_o beseech_v they_o as_o in_o christ_n stead_n to_o be_v reconcile_v to_o god_n and_o as_o we_o right_o infer_v the_o assurance_n of_o salvation_n of_o ordinary_a believer_n from_o the_o apostle_n assurance_n because_o he_o fix_v his_o assurance_n not_o upon_o any_o peculiar_a revelation_n but_o upon_o ground_n common_a to_o all_o christian_n so_o may_v we_o that_o be_v ordinary_a minister_n just_o take_v to_o ourselves_o the_o name_n and_o office_n of_o ambassador_n because_o the_o apostle_n assume_v it_o upon_o such_o ground_n as_o be_v common_a to_o all_o minister_n and_o not_o upon_o such_o as_o be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o apostolical_a dignity_n and_o this_o may_v suffice_v for_o the_o enforcement_n of_o this_o second_o argument_n but_o there_o be_v one_o block_n that_o must_v be_v remove_v it_o be_v plausible_o object_v by_o mr._n allen_n and_o mr._n shepheard_n in_o there_o answer_v to_o the_o nine_o question_n that_o minister_n though_o officer_n to_o their_o own_o flock_n yet_o may_v do_v the_o act_n of_o their_o office_n towards_o other_o as_o a_o steward_n of_o a_o house_n act_v as_o a_o officer_n in_o the_o entertainment_n of_o stranger_n etc._n etc._n and_o thus_o minister_n may_v preach_v as_o officer_n to_o other_o and_o yet_o be_v only_a officer_n to_o their_o own_o congregation_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v 1._o this_o concern_v not_o our_o brethren_n here_o who_o do_v positive_o determine_v that_o minister_n preach_v to_o other_o do_v preach_v only_o as_o gift_a man_n not_o as_o officer_n p._n 18._o so_o that_o i_o may_v without_o disparagement_n wave_v this_o objection_n 2._o this_o be_v a_o mere_a fallacy_n the_o resemblance_n itself_o be_v misunderstand_v or_o mis-applied_n for_o a_o steward_n of_o a_o house_n it_o be_v true_a he_o act_v as_o a_o steward_n in_o the_o entertainment_n of_o stranger_n but_o how_o he_o act_n as_o the_o steward_n of_o that_o house_n not_o as_o a_o steward_n to_o they_o who_o he_o entertain_v but_o a_o minister_n preach_v as_o a_o officer_n with_o authority_n not_o only_o in_o relation_n to_o his_o own_o church_n but_o any_o other_o that_o occasional_o hear_v he_o as_o have_v be_v prove_v and_o yet_o 3._o if_o the_o similitude_n be_v well_o lay_v there_o be_v a_o further_a dissimilitude_n in_o the_o case_n in_o hand_n for_o a_o steward_n of_o a_o house_n be_v a_o steward_n only_o to_o that_o particular_a family_n but_o minister_n be_v steward_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n all_o which_o be_v call_v one_o family_n and_o one_o household_n 1_o tim._n 3._o 15._o how_o thou_o shall_v behave_v thyself_o in_o the_o house_n of_o god_n gal._n 6._o 10._o do_v good_a to_o all_o especial_o the_o household_n of_o faith_n eph._n 2._o 19_o you_o be_v fellow_n citizen_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o of_o the_o household_n of_o god_n and_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o steward_n of_o a_o house_n be_v no_o officer_n to_o stranger_n be_v because_o the_o lord_n that_o make_v he_o a_o steward_n have_v no_o authority_n to_o make_v he_o a_o steward_n over_o stranger_n nor_o further_o than_o his_o house_n or_o jurisdiction_n reach_v but_o christ_n who_o make_v minister_n steward_n have_v authority_n to_o make_v they_o such_o over_o the_o whole_a church_n yea_o over_o heathen_n and_o indeed_o so_o he_o have_v do_v as_o the_o former_a argument_n have_v prove_v and_o he_o require_v of_o the_o world_n to_o own_o his_o minister_n as_o ambassador_n and_o will_v severe_o punish_v their_o 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desert_v their_o own_o principle_n and_o have_v through_o incogitancy_n precipitate_v themselves_o into_o the_o gulf_n of_o anabaptism_n which_o i_o doubt_v not_o in_o their_o next_o either_o their_o prudence_n or_o their_o ingenuity_n will_v oblige_v they_o to_o retract_v 2._o the_o provincial_a assembly_n be_v not_o oblige_v to_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o excentrical_a opinion_n of_o every_o particular_a congregational_a man_n but_o of_o those_o which_o be_v own_v by_o the_o generality_n of_o they_o and_o by_o such_o as_o seem_v to_o be_v pillar_n among_o they_o and_o sure_o i_o be_o such_o will_v reject_v this_o notion_n of_o a_o man_n give_v the_o sacrament_n as_o a_o gift_a brother_n they_o know_v the_o rule_n quod_fw-la competit_fw-la rei_fw-la qua_fw-la tali_fw-la competit_fw-la omni_fw-la tali_fw-la if_o a_o pastor_n give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o stranger_n not_o as_o a_o pastor_n or_o officer_n but_o as_o a_o gift_a brother_n for_o that_o be_v the_o other_o member_n of_o the_o distinction_n than_o every_o gift_a brother_n may_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n which_o i_o suppose_v our_o brethren_n will_v tremble_v to_o grant_v and_o therefore_o they_o must_v call_v back_o their_o own_o word_n too_o loose_o deliver_v 2._o but_o however_o say_v they_o this_o be_v a_o argument_n against_o our_o practice_n not_o the_o assertion_n reply_n yes_o it_o may_v give_v just_a cause_n of_o suspicion_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o that_o assertion_n which_o inevitable_o draw_v along_o with_o it_o such_o a_o strange_a conclusion_n as_o this_o that_o no_o man_n may_v receive_v the_o sacrament_n any_o where_o but_o in_o his_o own_o congregation_n which_o be_v in_o a_o great_a measure_n to_o cut_v the_o sinew_n of_o christian_a and_o church-communion_n and_o yet_o for_o aught_o either_o i_o or_o mr_n hooker_n see_v either_o this_o conclusion_n must_v be_v embrace_v or_o the_o principle_n reject_v i_o pass_v on_o to_o the_o reason_n there_o be_v say_v the_o assembly_n seven_o ill_a consequence_n which_o follow_v this_o assertion_n that_o a_o minister_n can_v perform_v no_o pastoral_n act_v out_o of_o his_o own_o congregation_n i_o shall_v reduce_v they_o to_o two_o or_o three_o 1._o then_o a_o minister_n at_o the_o same_o time_n preach_v to_o his_o own_o member_n as_o a_o minister_n and_o to_o other_o as_o a_o gift_a man_n only_o 2._o then_o a_o minister_n baptize_v only_o into_o his_o own_o congregation_n not_o into_o the_o catholic_n church_n contrary_a to_o 1_o cor._n 12._o 13._o and_o so_o a_o minister_n can_v baptize_v none_o but_o those_o that_o be_v member_n of_o his_o own_o congregation_n and_o so_o there_o be_v no_o way_n to_o baptize_v heathen_n convert_v nor_o the_o child_n of_o such_o parent_n as_o can_v be_v member_n of_o any_o congregation_n and_o here_o our_o brethren_n bring_v in_o that_o argument_n mention_v by_o the_o provinc_fw-la that_o a_o minister_n ministerial_o admit_v into_o and_o eject_v out_o of_o the_o church-catholick_n and_o therefore_o be_v a_o minister_n of_o the_o church-catholick_n and_o not_o only_o of_o his_o particular_a congregation_n p._n 281_o etc._n etc._n let_v we_o now_o hear_v what_o our_o brethren_n have_v to_o answer_n 1._o they_o say_v we_o see_v no_o absurdity_n in_o say_v that_o a_o minister_n preach_v to_o some_o as_o a_o officer_n and_o at_o the_o same_o time_n preach_v to_o other_o not_o as_o a_o officer_n reply_v 1_o this_o be_v a_o conceit_n for_o which_o there_o be_v no_o shadow_n in_o the_o scripture_n nay_o it_o be_v not_o only_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o only_o without_o but_o against_o the_o evidence_n of_o scripture_n minister_n wherever_o or_o to_o whosoever_o they_o do_v the_o work_n of_o ambassador_n whosoever_o they_o beseech_v to_o be_v reconcile_v to_o they_o they_o act_n as_o ambassador_n and_o who_o sin_n soever_o they_o remit_v doctrinal_o which_o be_v a_o act_n of_o office_n they_o be_v remit_v and_o who_o sin_n soever_o they_o retain_v in_o preach_v they_o be_v retain_v whether_o their_o hearer_n be_v stranger_n or_o of_o their_o own_o congregation_n and_o this_o they_o do_v by_o virtue_n of_o their_o office_n sure_o it_o be_v very_o harsh_a to_o say_v that_o all_o stranger_n which_o hear_v a_o minister_n be_v no_o more_o bind_v to_o hear_v and_o obey_v he_o then_o to_o hear_v or_o obey_v any_o woman_n discourse_v private_o of_o those_o thing_n and_o that_o a_o stranger_n reject_v his_o message_n be_v no_o way_n guilty_a of_o the_o contempt_n of_o his_o office_n it_o will_v be_v a_o happy_a thing_n if_o that_o will_v be_v a_o sufficient_a plea_n at_o the_o last_o day_n nay_o by_o this_o rule_n the_o very_a apostle_n themselves_o as_o we_o have_v more_o large_o see_v must_v when_o preach_v to_o heathen_n be_v canton_v into_o the_o order_n of_o gift_a man_n and_o if_o that_o be_v true_a it_o be_v no_o act_n of_o their_o office_n to_o disciple_v nation_n and_o to_o gather_v in_o the_o saint_n and_o all_o those_o heathen_n which_o be_v now_o convert_v by_o minister_n be_v not_o convert_v by_o virtue_n of_o the_o minister_n office_n nor_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n appoint_v for_o the_o gather_n in_o of_o soul_n but_o only_o for_o the_o build_n up_o of_o such_o as_o be_v bring_v in_o contrary_a to_o mat._n 28._o &_o eph._n 4._o as_o have_v be_v argue_v 2._o they_o argue_v against_o that_o position_n that_o a_o man_n be_v make_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n p._n 284._o whereas_o indeed_o it_o be_v none_o of_o our_o assertion_n and_o so_o all_o that_o labour_n both_o of_o they_o and_o mr_n hooker_n be_v lose_v they_o can_v but_o know_v that_o we_o allow_v infant_n to_o be_v bear_v church-member_n and_o make_v their_o church-membership_a the_o ground_n of_o their_o baptism_n and_o a_o par_fw-fr a_o heathen_a convert_v and_o profess_v the_o faith_n be_v a_o church-member_n inchoatè_fw-fr before_o baptism_n this_o only_a we_o say_v that_o the_o solemn_a public_a and_o visible_a way_n of_o admission_n of_o member_n into_o the_o church_n be_v by_o baptism_n and_o this_o can_v be_v easy_o deny_v by_o any_o one_o that_o look_v either_o to_o the_o jewish_a or_o christian_a church_n for_o as_o since_o the_o new_a testament_n begin_v it_o have_v always_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n so_o be_v it_o also_o unto_o proselyte_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n who_o use_v to_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o jewish_a church_n by_o baptism_n selden_n as_o divers_a learned_a man_n have_v prove_v or_o if_o our_o brethren_n question_n that_o yet_o at_o least_o circumcision_n to_o which_o our_o baptism_n answer_v be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o jewish_a church_n but_o of_o this_o more_o hereafter_o 3._o they_o deny_v that_o a_o minister_n eject_v out_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n not_o the_o minister_n but_o the_o person_n renounce_v his_o profession_n eject_v himself_o out_o of_o it_o he_o may_v be_v eject_v with_o and_o not_o by_o excommunication_n and_o how_o can_v a_o man_n be_v eject_v out_o of_o a_o particular_a church_n make_v he_o no_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n if_o be_v eject_v out_o of_o office_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n do_v not_o make_v a_o man_n no_o officer_n to_o the_o catholic_n visible_a church_n p._n 285._o reply_v 1_o here_o two_o thing_n be_v oppose_v which_o may_v be_v conjoin_v for_o both_o the_o person_n eject_v himself_o and_o the_o minister_n eject_v he_o he_o eject_v himself_o meritorious_o the_o minister_n efficient_o and_o juridical_o 2._o either_o a_o minister_n eject_v a_o man_n just_o out_o of_o his_o own_o church_n eject_v he_o out_o of_o all_o other_o church_n and_o that_o can_v be_v but_o by_o virtue_n of_o a_o catholic_n church_n etc._n etc._n or_o he_o be_v not_o juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o other_o church_n and_o so_o he_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n of_o be_v receive_v into_o other_o church_n which_o what_o horrid_a confusion_n it_o will_v introduce_v into_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o how_o incongruous_a it_o be_v unto_o his_o wisdom_n in_o who_o be_v hide_v all_o the_o treasure_n of_o wisdom_n and_o knowledge_n to_o appoint_v a_o remedy_n so_o short_a and_o insufficient_a for_o the_o disease_n i_o leave_v to_o all_o sober_a man_n to_o judge_v and_o this_o be_v not_o a_o bare_a suggestion_n for_o experience_n show_v that_o the_o effect_n of_o this_o principle_n be_v such_o and_o person_n juridical_o and_o just_o eject_v out_o of_o one_o church_n have_v be_v admit_v into_o another_o church_n who_o it_o may_v be_v apprehend_v he_o to_o have_v be_v unjust_o deal_v with_o and_o according_a to_o this_o principle_n there_o be_v no_o remedy_n but_o so_o it_o must_v be_v 3._o for_o the_o eject_v of_o officer_n i_o say_v 1._o that_o a_o church_n in_o their_o sense_n i._n e._n the_o body_n
of_o the_o people_n have_v no_o power_n of_o eject_v of_o officer_n as_o our_o brethren_n suppose_v 2._o that_o when_o a_o minister_n be_v juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o office_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n by_o deposition_n he_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o officer_n to_o the_o catholic_n church_n 4._o they_o say_v according_a to_o our_o way_n also_o we_o can_v baptize_v heathen_n for_o if_o there_o be_v a_o catholic_n church_n minister_n be_v only_a officer_n in_o the_o church_n and_o not_o to_o the_o heathen_n convert_v so_o can_v baptize_v they_o reply_n minister_n be_v officer_n not_o only_o to_o those_o that_o be_v actual_o member_n of_o the_o church_n but_o to_o all_o that_o shall_v be_v bring_v in_o as_o we_o have_v show_v they_o be_v officer_n even_o to_o heathen_n in_o the_o sense_n before_o explain_v as_o they_o do_v ex_fw-la officio_fw-la offer_v they_o a_o pardon_n and_o give_v it_o upon_o their_o repentance_n so_o they_o do_v ex_fw-la officio_fw-la admit_v they_o into_o the_o church_n 5._o they_o say_v in_o such_o a_o case_n heathen_n may_v join_v as_o member_n to_o some_o church_n and_o so_o be_v baptize_v reply_n our_o brethren_n shall_v not_o obtrude_v such_o uncouth_a notion_n upon_o the_o world_n without_o evident_a proof_n their_o answer_n imply_v as_o if_o there_o be_v some_o other_o way_n whereby_o a_o man_n may_v be_v make_v a_o complete_a church-member_n without_o baptism_n whereas_o in_o scripture_n there_o be_v ne_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n if_o there_o be_v let_v our_o brethren_n show_v it_o sure_o we_o be_v the_o new_a testament_n way_n be_v by_o baptism_n but_o of_o this_o more_o by_o and_o by_o and_o this_o be_v all_o of_o any_o moment_n which_o our_o brethren_n have_v to_o say_v by_o way_n of_o answer_n to_o the_o forego_n argument_n 3._o another_o argument_n use_v by_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n be_v this_o that_o from_o hence_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o when_o a_o minister_n leave_v or_o be_v put_v from_o his_o particular_a charge_n he_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o minister_n and_o so_o when_o he_o take_v up_o a_o new_a charge_n he_o need_v a_o new_a ordination_n which_o be_v absurd_a because_o every_o minister_n be_v seat_v in_o the_o catholic_n church_n 1_o cor._n 12._o eph._n 4._o and_o as_o a_o private_a christian_a remove_v from_o his_o church_n do_v not_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o then_o his_o baptism_n shall_v cease_v for_o every_o baptize_v person_n be_v a_o church-member_n and_o needs_o not_o to_o be_v baptize_v a_o new_a so_o a_o minister_n go_v from_o a_o congregation_n need_v not_o to_o be_v ordain_v a_o new_a to_o this_o our_o brethren_n answer_v divers_a thing_n 1._o they_o say_v this_o run_v into_o direct_a anabaptism_n for_o by_o this_o rule_n a_o excommunicate_a person_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n his_o baptism_n cease_v and_o so_o he_o need_v to_o be_v rebaptise_v when_o he_o be_v readmit_v p._n 292._o reply_v i._n but_o this_o follow_v not_o for_o a_o double_a reason_n 1._o it_o may_v be_v say_v that_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n though_o a_o disease_a member_n 2_o thess._n 3._o admonish_v he_o as_o a_o brother_n he_o towards_o who_o i_o owe_v the_o duty_n of_o a_o fellow-member_n be_v a_o fellow-member_n but_o i_o owe_v the_o duty_n of_o a_o fellow-member_n viz._n fraternal_a admonition_n to_o such_o a_o one_o again_o he_o who_o be_v under_o a_o church_n ordinance_n appoint_v for_o his_o good_a be_v a_o church-member_n though_o disease_v and_o under_o cure_n but_o such_o a_o one_o be_v under_o a_o ordinance_n ergo._fw-la 2._o though_o his_o baptism_n cease_v at_o present_a actual_o and_o real_o as_o to_o all_o the_o actual_a privilege_n of_o it_o and_o so_o cease_v that_o while_o he_o repent_v not_o he_o be_v to_o be_v look_v upon_o after_o a_o sort_n as_o a_o unbaptised_a person_n or_o as_o a_o heathen_a yet_o when_o he_o do_v repent_v and_o renew_v his_o 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