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A17912 A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, prooved by the nonconformists principles Specially opposed vnto Dr. Ames, his Fresh suit against humane ceremonies, in the point of separation only. Also Dr. Laiton, Mr. Dayrel, and Mr. Bradshaw, are here answered, wherein they have written against us. With a table in the later end, of the principal occurrents in this treatise. By Iohn Canne, pastor of the ancient English church, in Amsterdam. Canne, John, d. 1667? 1634 (1634) STC 4574; ESTC S117015 174,263 303

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adm._n 17_o prefac_o admon_n to_o the_o parl._n note_n dis_n eccl._n gou._n p._n 108._o tab._n div_o rea._n ca._n des_n this_fw-mi 92._o def_n godly_a mi._n ag_n br._n 108._o adm._n 1._o p._n 5._o &_o l._n 2._o p._n 61._o joh._n 1._o john_n 10._o 12._o neces_fw-la disc_fw-la 74._o mind_v this_o you_o lecturer_n t._n c._n l._n 1._o p._n 83._o eccl._n gou._n p._n 7._o demon_n disc_fw-la 7._o mr._n bat._n 102._o cartw._n chr._n rel_n ch_n 16._o p._n 28._o demon_n this_fw-mi 13._o de_fw-fr consc_fw-fr l._n 4._o c._n 25._o p._n 215._o mr._n bates_n 134._o def._n of_o disc_n ag_n d._n bridg._n 129._o fresh_a suit_n l._n 2._o p._n 207._o i_o have_v good_a testimony_n for_o this_o thing_n d._n somes_n last_o treat_v c._n 10._o p._n 123._o arr._n ag_n br._n 93._o pro._n 25._o 8._o defen_n admon_n fresh_a suit_n l._n 2._o p._n 132._o neces_fw-la before_o ●1_n zep._n 1._o 12._o pro._n 14._o 15_o ephe._n 4._o 32_o 1_o pet._n 3._o 8._o 1_o king_n 20_o 42._o psa_fw-la 50._o mar._n 1._o john_n 15._o 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psa_n 51._o p._n 4._o m._n bates_n 18._o 212._o deu._n 16._o 21_o chap._n 4._o 34._o park_n of_o the_o cross_n l._n 1._o p._n 62._o colos_n 2._o 10._o 243._o exod._n 20._o 24._o 25._o ba._n 205_o 257._o zion_n pl._n 279._o cart._n chr._n relig_n cha_z 16._o p._n 103._o m._n dike_n six_o evan._n histor_n p._n 312._o d._n tayl._n upon_o tit._n 3._o 10._o pag._n 7._o 15._o exhort_v to_o the_o church_n of_o edenb_n pag._n 10._o first_o vol._n idol_n last_o time_n p._n