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insist_v and_o never_o yet_o have_v have_v any_o such_o ground_n offer_v to_o we_o as_o may_v in_o some_o measure_n appear_v by_o the_o view_n of_o that_o controversy_n as_o it_o lie_v visible_a in_o the_o book_n entitle_v the_o view_n of_o infallibility_n num._n 34_o as_o for_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o the_o reason_n on_o the_o protestant_n side_n by_o uncertainty_n meaning_n fallibility_n and_o the_o potest_fw-la subesse_fw-la falsum_fw-la while_o yet_o we_o be_v without_o doubt_v very_o persuade_v that_o our_o reason_n have_v force_n in_o they_o that_o can_v make_v it_o possible_a for_o we_o to_o believe_v what_o we_o do_v not_o believe_v or_o lawful_a upon_o any_o the_o fair_a intuition_n to_o profess_v contrary_a to_o our_o belief_n i_o believe_v that_o henry_n viii_o be_v king_n of_o this_o nation_n and_o the_o reason_n on_o which_o i_o believe_v it_o be_v the_o testimony_n of_o mere_a man_n and_o so_o fallible_a yet_o the_o bare_a fallibility_n of_o those_o testimony_n can_v 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reply_v to_o in_o this_o matter_n num._n 38_o for_o as_o to_o his_o bare_a affirmation_n that_o the_o not_o acknowledge_v their_o infallibility_n take_v away_o all_o belief_n and_o ground_n of_o belief_n turn_v all_o into_o uncertainty_n etc._n etc._n nay_o submit_v to_o atheism_n and_o all_o sort_n of_o miscreancy_n it_o be_v sure_a but_o a_o mistake_n or_o misunderstanding_n as_o of_o some_o other_o thing_n so_o particular_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o belief_n for_o beside_o that_o i_o may_v have_v other_o ground_n of_o belief_n than_o the_o affirmation_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n for_o the_o severall_n contain_v in_o it_o and_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o universal_a primitive_a that_o sure_o be_v more_o than_o of_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n to_o assure_v i_o that_o what_o we_o take_v for_o scripture_n be_v scripture_n and_o to_o derive_v apostolical_a tradition_n to_o i_o and_o so_o i_o may_v believe_v enough_o without_o ever_o know_v 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the_o future_a you_o will_v not_o easy_o admit_v those_o who_o have_v come_v to_o you_o from_o hence_o and_o that_o you_o will_v not_o receive_v to_o your_o communion_n those_o who_o be_v excommunicate_a by_o we_o see_v the_o council_n of_o nice_a have_v thus_o define_v as_o you_o may_v easy_o discern_v num._n 8_o by_o all_o which_o put_v together_o by_o the_o african_a out_o of_o the_o nicene_n and_o by_o the_o nicene_n out_o of_o the_o apostolic_a canon_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v not_o power_n to_o absolve_v any_o person_n excommunicate_a by_o any_o bishop_n of_o another_o province_n and_o that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o any_o such_o to_o make_v appeal_n to_o he_o which_o certain_o will_v conclude_v against_o every_o the_o most_o inferior_a branch_n of_o his_o pretend_a authority_n over_o the_o universal_a church_n num._n 9_o if_o this_o be_v not_o enough_o then_o add_v the_o 34_o apostolic_a canon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o bishop_n 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for_o if_o one_o be_v call_v universal_a patriarch_n the_o name_n of_o patriarch_n be_v take_v from_o all_o the_o rest_n and_o more_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n the_o very_a thing_n that_o i_o be_v here_o to_o prove_v num._n 11_o so_o again_o ch._n 5._o out_o of_o the_o epistle_n of_o pope_n gregory_n to_o eulogius_n patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n where_o refuse_v the_o title_n of_o vniversalis_fw-la papa_n universal_a pope_n or_o father_n or_o patriarch_n and_o call_v it_o superbae_fw-la appellaetionis_fw-la verbum_fw-la a_o proud_a title_n he_o add_v si_fw-la enim_fw-la vniversalem_fw-la i_o papam_fw-la vestra_fw-la sanctit_fw-la as_o dicit_fw-la negat_fw-la se_fw-la hoc_fw-la esse_fw-la quod_fw-la i_o fatetur_fw-la vniversum_fw-la if_o the_o patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n call_v the_o pope_n universal_a father_n he_o do_v thereby_o deny_v himself_o to_o be_v that_o which_o he_o affirm_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v universal_o the_o meaning_n be_v clear_a if_o the_o pope_n be_v universal_a patriarch_n then_o be_v he_o patriarch_n of_o egypt_n for_o sure_a that_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o universe_n and_o then_o as_o there_o can_v be_v two_o supremes_n so_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n can_v be_v patriarch_n of_o egypt_n which_o yet_o from_o s._n mark_n be_v time_n be_v general_o resolve_v to_o belong_v to_o he_o and_o the_o word_n of_o the_o nicene_n canon_n be_v express_v to_o it_o that_o according_a to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d original_n primitive_a custom_n the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n shall_v have_v power_n over_o all_o egypt_n lybia_n and_o pentapolis_n add_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n see_v this_o be_v also_o customary_a with_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n of_o antioch_n etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o privilege_n shall_v be_v preserve_v to_o the_o church_n num._n 12_o all_o which_o argue_v of_o that_o pope_n yea_o and_o that_o great_a council_n be_v perfect_o unconcluding_a inconsequent_a as_o i_o be_v 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